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[Applause]

[Applause] appearing on TED talk is something very

appearing on TED talk is something very

appearing on TED talk is something very unexpected for me but I’m honored to be

unexpected for me but I’m honored to be

unexpected for me but I’m honored to be included among the many luminaries that

included among the many luminaries that

included among the many luminaries that have graced this stage but along with

have graced this stage but along with

have graced this stage but along with the honor I realized that there was a

the honor I realized that there was a

the honor I realized that there was a major obligation how could I have

major obligation how could I have

major obligation how could I have something to say that would be of

something to say that would be of

something to say that would be of interest to my listeners and I wondered

interest to my listeners and I wondered

interest to my listeners and I wondered what does have any impact whatever I

what does have any impact whatever I

what does have any impact whatever I said and that would impact a struck a

said and that would impact a struck a

said and that would impact a struck a chord because a few months ago I was

chord because a few months ago I was

chord because a few months ago I was invited to give a talk at the Catholic

invited to give a talk at the Catholic

invited to give a talk at the Catholic National Catholic University in Canberra

National Catholic University in Canberra

National Catholic University in Canberra to the senior leaders and their their

to the senior leaders and their their

to the senior leaders and their their main their brand is impact through

main their brand is impact through

main their brand is impact through empathy so today and for a different

empathy so today and for a different

empathy so today and for a different sitting I thought I could delve again

sitting I thought I could delve again

sitting I thought I could delve again into that same theme and by looking back

into that same theme and by looking back

into that same theme and by looking back on my long life share with you through

on my long life share with you through

on my long life share with you through stories some instances as I have

stories some instances as I have

stories some instances as I have experienced them of the benefits of

experienced them of the benefits of

experienced them of the benefits of impact through empathy it seems to me

impact through empathy it seems to me

impact through empathy it seems to me that if we are to stand up and be

that if we are to stand up and be

that if we are to stand up and be counted we need a great deal of love in

counted we need a great deal of love in

counted we need a great deal of love in our hearts there’s a whole world out

our hearts there’s a whole world out

our hearts there’s a whole world out there desperately in need of impact

there desperately in need of impact

there desperately in need of impact through empathy Hubert Humphrey jr. who

through empathy Hubert Humphrey jr. who

through empathy Hubert Humphrey jr. who served as vice president of the United

served as vice president of the United

served as vice president of the United States of America from 1963 to 1969 and

States of America from 1963 to 1969 and

States of America from 1963 to 1969 and he was a known spokesman for justice and

he was a known spokesman for justice and

he was a known spokesman for justice and compassion he had this to say about the

compassion he had this to say about the

compassion he had this to say about the role of government in the role of

role of government in the role of

role of government in the role of suffering the moral test of government

suffering the moral test of government

suffering the moral test of government is how it treats those who are in the

is how it treats those who are in the

is how it treats those who are in the dawn of life the children those who are

dawn of life the children those who are

dawn of life the children those who are in the twilight of life the aged and

in the twilight of life the aged and

in the twilight of life the aged and those in the shadows of life the sick

those in the shadows of life the sick

those in the shadows of life the sick the needy and the handicapped in

the needy and the handicapped in

the needy and the handicapped in Australia in 1980s

Australia in 1980s

Australia in 1980s kans a very serious question of how best

kans a very serious question of how best

kans a very serious question of how best to respond to the hiv/aids issue this

to respond to the hiv/aids issue this

to respond to the hiv/aids issue this was a divisive community question which

was a divisive community question which

was a divisive community question which resulted in only some being willing to

resulted in only some being willing to

resulted in only some being willing to become involved in Queensland the

become involved in Queensland the

become involved in Queensland the premiere of the day stated in the daily

premiere of the day stated in the daily

premiere of the day stated in the daily paper that when these people became ill

paper that when these people became ill

paper that when these people became ill nobody should help them in their illness

nobody should help them in their illness

nobody should help them in their illness because their illness was a direct

because their illness was a direct

because their illness was a direct punishment from God he believed this and

punishment from God he believed this and

punishment from God he believed this and at the time he was a popular political

at the time he was a popular political

at the time he was a popular political figure as well there was widespread fear

figure as well there was widespread fear

figure as well there was widespread fear that the virus could be acquired simply

that the virus could be acquired simply

that the virus could be acquired simply by touching the clothes of somebody we

by touching the clothes of somebody we

by touching the clothes of somebody we met in the bus you may remember how

met in the bus you may remember how

met in the bus you may remember how dramatic it was when Princess Diana

dramatic it was when Princess Diana

dramatic it was when Princess Diana shook the hands of a man known to have

shook the hands of a man known to have

shook the hands of a man known to have the virus as Sisters of Mercy founder

the virus as Sisters of Mercy founder

the virus as Sisters of Mercy founder for the poor the sick education and for

for the poor the sick education and for

for the poor the sick education and for the needy particularly people with unmet

the needy particularly people with unmet

the needy particularly people with unmet needs

needs

needs we waited I did many others we waited

we waited I did many others we waited

we waited I did many others we waited for the medical profession the churches

for the medical profession the churches

for the medical profession the churches anyone to speak out against this stance

anyone to speak out against this stance

anyone to speak out against this stance of government but nothing happened

of government but nothing happened

of government but nothing happened the president of the queensland aids

the president of the queensland aids

the president of the queensland aids council approached our congregational

council approached our congregational

council approached our congregational leader at the time to ask if we may help

leader at the time to ask if we may help

leader at the time to ask if we may help as the public face of the matter

as the public face of the matter

as the public face of the matter hospital at the time i was the obvious

hospital at the time i was the obvious

hospital at the time i was the obvious person to help or establish a link

person to help or establish a link

person to help or establish a link across the three groups Queens and AIDS

across the three groups Queens and AIDS

across the three groups Queens and AIDS Council the Sisters of Mercy and the

Council the Sisters of Mercy and the

Council the Sisters of Mercy and the matter hospitals Brisbane at the outset

matter hospitals Brisbane at the outset

matter hospitals Brisbane at the outset I could foresee some serious problems I

I could foresee some serious problems I

I could foresee some serious problems I knew nothing of the virus nothing of how

knew nothing of the virus nothing of how

knew nothing of the virus nothing of how it was was not transmitted and I

it was was not transmitted and I

it was was not transmitted and I wondered how I could be of assistance to

wondered how I could be of assistance to

wondered how I could be of assistance to people whom I had never met and about

people whom I had never met and about

people whom I had never met and about who his lifestyle or needs I knew

who his lifestyle or needs I knew

who his lifestyle or needs I knew nothing as well-dressed as I am and as I

nothing as well-dressed as I am and as I

nothing as well-dressed as I am and as I was I could see it could seem to the men

was I could see it could seem to the men

was I could see it could seem to the men that I was just descending on them

that I was just descending on them

that I was just descending on them merely to impose values or to express

merely to impose values or to express

merely to impose values or to express judgments

judgments

judgments as a prerequisite for any help I might

as a prerequisite for any help I might

as a prerequisite for any help I might give however when I perceived as

give however when I perceived as

give however when I perceived as problems actually became moments of

problems actually became moments of

problems actually became moments of learning for us all in a public

learning for us all in a public

learning for us all in a public statement we announced the Sisters of

statement we announced the Sisters of

statement we announced the Sisters of Mercy wish to offer compassionate

Mercy wish to offer compassionate

Mercy wish to offer compassionate non-judgmental support to those who need

non-judgmental support to those who need

non-judgmental support to those who need it we will not impose services but we

it we will not impose services but we

it we will not impose services but we request that we be allowed to walk

request that we be allowed to walk

request that we be allowed to walk alongside those who have HIV AIDS and to

alongside those who have HIV AIDS and to

alongside those who have HIV AIDS and to be available when needed the martyr

be available when needed the martyr

be available when needed the martyr provided the AIDS Council with a meeting

provided the AIDS Council with a meeting

provided the AIDS Council with a meeting place office space and three houses

place office space and three houses

place office space and three houses rent-free so fearful was the average

rent-free so fearful was the average

rent-free so fearful was the average person of acquiring the disease that

person of acquiring the disease that

person of acquiring the disease that these men knew what they must not under

these men knew what they must not under

these men knew what they must not under any circumstances reveal to anybody

any circumstances reveal to anybody

any circumstances reveal to anybody particularly neighbors what their

particularly neighbors what their

particularly neighbors what their medical condition was however one of our

medical condition was however one of our

medical condition was however one of our specialist medical physicians and said

specialist medical physicians and said

specialist medical physicians and said to me bring them to my outpatient clinic

to me bring them to my outpatient clinic

to me bring them to my outpatient clinic and I’ll see them so there they said

and I’ll see them so there they said

and I’ll see them so there they said comfortably among all the other patients

comfortably among all the other patients

comfortably among all the other patients nobody knew I spent many evenings with

nobody knew I spent many evenings with

nobody knew I spent many evenings with groups of these men in their hideouts in

groups of these men in their hideouts in

groups of these men in their hideouts in Stanley Street South Brisbane listening

Stanley Street South Brisbane listening

Stanley Street South Brisbane listening to their needs to determine how I could

to their needs to determine how I could

to their needs to determine how I could help as it turned out wearing religious

help as it turned out wearing religious

help as it turned out wearing religious garb far from being a deterrent enabled

garb far from being a deterrent enabled

garb far from being a deterrent enabled me to go to places where other women

me to go to places where other women

me to go to places where other women might hesitate to go it’s strange now to

might hesitate to go it’s strange now to

might hesitate to go it’s strange now to look back on those times our involvement

look back on those times our involvement

look back on those times our involvement though was not without serious risk we

though was not without serious risk we

though was not without serious risk we were acting against the wishes of the

were acting against the wishes of the

were acting against the wishes of the premier on whose government we depended

premier on whose government we depended

premier on whose government we depended for support for our three public

for support for our three public

for support for our three public hospitals to complicate matters further

hospitals to complicate matters further

hospitals to complicate matters further because the Queensland Government would

because the Queensland Government would

because the Queensland Government would not provide financial aid to the local

not provide financial aid to the local

not provide financial aid to the local aids council these was sort of a rare

aids council these was sort of a rare

aids council these was sort of a rare secret agreement between the federal

secret agreement between the federal

secret agreement between the federal government and the matter was created

government and the matter was created

government and the matter was created for about two years without the

for about two years without the

for about two years without the knowledge of the premier and with the

knowledge of the premier and with the

knowledge of the premier and with the guarded approval of the MARTA board

guarded approval of the MARTA board

guarded approval of the MARTA board federal monies for the Queen today’s

federal monies for the Queen today’s

federal monies for the Queen today’s council came directly to the matter

council came directly to the matter

council came directly to the matter years later I read that the then Federal

years later I read that the then Federal

years later I read that the then Federal Minister for health dr. nian Blewett

Minister for health dr. nian Blewett

Minister for health dr. nian Blewett described the Sisters of Mercy as the

described the Sisters of Mercy as the

described the Sisters of Mercy as the most altruistic of money launderers

but for us these were worrying and

but for us these were worrying and dangerous times

dangerous times

dangerous times despite that our task was not to judge

despite that our task was not to judge

despite that our task was not to judge but to help where we could and that’s

but to help where we could and that’s

but to help where we could and that’s what we did for me there were many

what we did for me there were many

what we did for me there were many learning curves as you can imagine I was

learning curves as you can imagine I was

learning curves as you can imagine I was so ignorant of the whole situation but

so ignorant of the whole situation but

so ignorant of the whole situation but one incident remains embedded in my mind

one incident remains embedded in my mind

one incident remains embedded in my mind the president of the AIDS Council

the president of the AIDS Council

the president of the AIDS Council invited me to attend a mass that was to

invited me to attend a mass that was to

invited me to attend a mass that was to be celebrated in a unit in Dutton Park

be celebrated in a unit in Dutton Park

be celebrated in a unit in Dutton Park Brisbane and at the bedside of a man who

Brisbane and at the bedside of a man who

Brisbane and at the bedside of a man who was dying of AIDS on arrival at the

was dying of AIDS on arrival at the

was dying of AIDS on arrival at the bedside I realized that the man was near

bedside I realized that the man was near

bedside I realized that the man was near death

death

death there were only four persons in the room

there were only four persons in the room

there were only four persons in the room because in those days it was a practice

because in those days it was a practice

because in those days it was a practice of somebody once he discovered that he

of somebody once he discovered that he

of somebody once he discovered that he had the virus to advise his family that

had the virus to advise his family that

had the virus to advise his family that he had been fortunate enough to get a

he had been fortunate enough to get a

he had been fortunate enough to get a very good position in another state so I

very good position in another state so I

very good position in another state so I knew that this man had no near relatives

knew that this man had no near relatives

knew that this man had no near relatives in Brisbane at the end of Mass when it

in Brisbane at the end of Mass when it

in Brisbane at the end of Mass when it was obvious that the man had died his

was obvious that the man had died his

was obvious that the man had died his partner threw himself across the bed in

partner threw himself across the bed in

partner threw himself across the bed in a paroxysm of grief and I stood there

a paroxysm of grief and I stood there

a paroxysm of grief and I stood there looking at them and I realized that here

looking at them and I realized that here

looking at them and I realized that here were two men loved by God as much as all

were two men loved by God as much as all

were two men loved by God as much as all others and I are loved so I bent down

others and I are loved so I bent down

others and I are loved so I bent down put my arms around him raised him up and

put my arms around him raised him up and

put my arms around him raised him up and held him at that moment the strange

held him at that moment the strange

held him at that moment the strange outcome of it all was that all my fear

outcome of it all was that all my fear

outcome of it all was that all my fear about not knowing how to help these men

about not knowing how to help these men

about not knowing how to help these men left me I realized it was all a matter

left me I realized it was all a matter

left me I realized it was all a matter of love for about seven years we

of love for about seven years we

of love for about seven years we continued to work with these men after

continued to work with these men after

continued to work with these men after which time they were able to deal

which time they were able to deal

which time they were able to deal directly with the community and with the

directly with the community and with the

directly with the community and with the Queensland government because there had

Queensland government because there had

Queensland government because there had been a change of government now a

been a change of government now a

been a change of government now a finalist story some years ago my sister

finalist story some years ago my sister

finalist story some years ago my sister and I were on holidays in Ireland our

and I were on holidays in Ireland our

and I were on holidays in Ireland our family took us to see the Celtic furrow

family took us to see the Celtic furrow

family took us to see the Celtic furrow a Center the trace

a Center the trace

a Center the trace is cultural historical and spiritual

is cultural historical and spiritual

is cultural historical and spiritual roots in Ireland over 5,000 years all

roots in Ireland over 5,000 years all

roots in Ireland over 5,000 years all graphically depicted we view beautiful

graphically depicted we view beautiful

graphically depicted we view beautiful gardens fountains stonework bog oaks and

gardens fountains stonework bog oaks and

gardens fountains stonework bog oaks and murals informing us of the golden age of

murals informing us of the golden age of

murals informing us of the golden age of Christianity in Ireland when art culture

Christianity in Ireland when art culture

Christianity in Ireland when art culture and learning flourished they followed a

and learning flourished they followed a

and learning flourished they followed a walk through a meandering labyrinth

walk through a meandering labyrinth

walk through a meandering labyrinth which depicted a thousand years of stand

which depicted a thousand years of stand

which depicted a thousand years of stand history in Ireland persecution invasion

history in Ireland persecution invasion

history in Ireland persecution invasion and famine all took toll on our

and famine all took toll on our

and famine all took toll on our ancestors but they remained a people of

ancestors but they remained a people of

ancestors but they remained a people of hope as symbolized by the Celtic cross

hope as symbolized by the Celtic cross

hope as symbolized by the Celtic cross that stands resolutely in the center of

that stands resolutely in the center of

that stands resolutely in the center of the labyrinth as we emerged from the

the labyrinth as we emerged from the

the labyrinth as we emerged from the labyrinth we were confronted by a

labyrinth we were confronted by a

labyrinth we were confronted by a message rich large over the exit the

message rich large over the exit the

message rich large over the exit the message read 3080 we are what we are

message read 3080 we are what we are

message read 3080 we are what we are today mainly because of your decisions

so I ask you today how do you make

so I ask you today how do you make decisions about others are you

decisions about others are you

decisions about others are you judgmental or do you bring empathy into

judgmental or do you bring empathy into

judgmental or do you bring empathy into your relationships with others

your relationships with others

your relationships with others regardless of the circumstances the

regardless of the circumstances the

regardless of the circumstances the founders of the Sisters of Mercy

founders of the Sisters of Mercy

founders of the Sisters of Mercy Catherine McAuley answered this question

Catherine McAuley answered this question

Catherine McAuley answered this question she described three levels of care

sympathy which can be an intellectual

sympathy which can be an intellectual understanding that others are suffering

understanding that others are suffering

understanding that others are suffering but it can be all brain and not much

but it can be all brain and not much

but it can be all brain and not much heart empathy a genuine understanding of

heart empathy a genuine understanding of

heart empathy a genuine understanding of others which engages the brain and the

others which engages the brain and the

others which engages the brain and the heart but Catherine defined an even

heart but Catherine defined an even

heart but Catherine defined an even greater calling compassion mercy which

greater calling compassion mercy which

greater calling compassion mercy which she described as having an exquisite

she described as having an exquisite

she described as having an exquisite nose for the sufferings of others this

nose for the sufferings of others this

nose for the sufferings of others this is a lovely standard to which we should

is a lovely standard to which we should

is a lovely standard to which we should all aspire in every relationship we have

all aspire in every relationship we have

all aspire in every relationship we have and I believe it’s the key to

and I believe it’s the key to

and I believe it’s the key to having a real and positive impact on the

having a real and positive impact on the

having a real and positive impact on the lives of those around us and even on our

lives of those around us and even on our

lives of those around us and even on our loved country may God bless each one of

loved country may God bless each one of

loved country may God bless each one of us

us

us [Applause]

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