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Idiosyncrasies Will Shape Future Healthcare | Vijayasimha Ajarananda | TEDxMAIS


so when I was in eighth grade I learned

so when I was in eighth grade I learned Newton’s laws of motion like all other

Newton’s laws of motion like all other

Newton’s laws of motion like all other kids and one of the first principles was

kids and one of the first principles was

kids and one of the first principles was that when a car is in motion

that when a car is in motion

that when a car is in motion it will continue to be in motion till it

it will continue to be in motion till it

it will continue to be in motion till it until it encounters a red signal it’s

until it encounters a red signal it’s

until it encounters a red signal it’s very important that this works in most

very important that this works in most

very important that this works in most parts of the world and but unfortunately

parts of the world and but unfortunately

parts of the world and but unfortunately in this part of the world I see that

in this part of the world I see that

in this part of the world I see that it’s not necessarily always the case and

it’s not necessarily always the case and

it’s not necessarily always the case and so therefore I do celebrate the

so therefore I do celebrate the

so therefore I do celebrate the diversity of thought and practice within

diversity of thought and practice within

diversity of thought and practice within the country but the amount of

the country but the amount of

the country but the amount of individuality that we express in today’s

individuality that we express in today’s

individuality that we express in today’s world is more than what it was in the

world is more than what it was in the

world is more than what it was in the generation that I was brought up in we

generation that I was brought up in we

generation that I was brought up in we were assembly line students we had

were assembly line students we had

were assembly line students we had assembly line factories and of course

assembly line factories and of course

assembly line factories and of course the the world was changing and now we

the the world was changing and now we

the the world was changing and now we have paint companies talking about

have paint companies talking about

have paint companies talking about marijuana cream we have car companies

marijuana cream we have car companies

marijuana cream we have car companies talking about configuring cars that are

talking about configuring cars that are

talking about configuring cars that are customized to one’s personality and is

customized to one’s personality and is

customized to one’s personality and is liking and so therefore we are beginning

liking and so therefore we are beginning

liking and so therefore we are beginning to express ourselves as more and more

to express ourselves as more and more

to express ourselves as more and more individualistic and of course it’s

individualistic and of course it’s

individualistic and of course it’s completely justified because I am

completely justified because I am

completely justified because I am therefore unique the three principles

therefore unique the three principles

therefore unique the three principles that drive this uniqueness has a

that drive this uniqueness has a

that drive this uniqueness has a definite effectiveness in all the kind

definite effectiveness in all the kind

definite effectiveness in all the kind of areas of work that is there and I

of areas of work that is there and I

of areas of work that is there and I would probably talk about how and why we

would probably talk about how and why we

would probably talk about how and why we are looking at healthcare

are looking at healthcare

are looking at healthcare transformations that probably would be

transformations that probably would be

transformations that probably would be driven by our idiosyncrasies we are

driven by our idiosyncrasies we are

driven by our idiosyncrasies we are different from our physiology point of

different from our physiology point of

different from our physiology point of view no-brainer

view no-brainer

view no-brainer we are also different from our egoistic

we are also different from our egoistic

we are also different from our egoistic reactions and ego perceptions again a

reactions and ego perceptions again a

reactions and ego perceptions again a no-brainer but of course we are also

no-brainer but of course we are also

no-brainer but of course we are also biased and influenced by our

biased and influenced by our

biased and influenced by our relationships and that makes what is me

so then what is the relevance of today’s

so then what is the relevance of today’s medicine today’s medicine is based on

medicine today’s medicine is based on

medicine today’s medicine is based on evidence-based medicine

evidence-based medicine

evidence-based medicine the problem with evidence-based medicine

the problem with evidence-based medicine

the problem with evidence-based medicine is that we assume that 80% of the

is that we assume that 80% of the

is that we assume that 80% of the population falls within my you know

population falls within my you know

population falls within my you know successful form of treatment and we have

successful form of treatment and we have

successful form of treatment and we have outliers unfortunately most of us are

outliers unfortunately most of us are

outliers unfortunately most of us are outliers many of us identify ourselves

outliers many of us identify ourselves

outliers many of us identify ourselves as outliers and from this evidence-based

as outliers and from this evidence-based

as outliers and from this evidence-based medicine and to illustrate this point

the basic concept of evidence-based

the basic concept of evidence-based medicine is based on factors that are

medicine is based on factors that are

medicine is based on factors that are related to a population a randomized

related to a population a randomized

related to a population a randomized clinical trial and people who respond

clinical trial and people who respond

clinical trial and people who respond and people who didn’t respond and had

and people who didn’t respond and had

and people who didn’t respond and had unfortunate consequences but the fact is

unfortunate consequences but the fact is

unfortunate consequences but the fact is that we are now beginning to look at why

that we are now beginning to look at why

that we are now beginning to look at why are we looking at this this form of

are we looking at this this form of

are we looking at this this form of health care just to give you an example

health care just to give you an example

health care just to give you an example I take you to three personal incidences

I take you to three personal incidences

I take you to three personal incidences that I’ve been closely related with one

that I’ve been closely related with one

that I’ve been closely related with one of the instances was a thirty year old

of the instances was a thirty year old

of the instances was a thirty year old female who came with that once breast

female who came with that once breast

female who came with that once breast cancer to a hospital of well-known

cancer to a hospital of well-known

cancer to a hospital of well-known Hospital in Bangalore was advised

Hospital in Bangalore was advised

Hospital in Bangalore was advised radiotherapy chemotherapy and some

radiotherapy chemotherapy and some

radiotherapy chemotherapy and some draconian surgical procedures but at the

draconian surgical procedures but at the

draconian surgical procedures but at the end of the day the family decided that

end of the day the family decided that

end of the day the family decided that we are not going to take this treatment

we are not going to take this treatment

we are not going to take this treatment we will go back and allow nature to take

we will go back and allow nature to take

we will go back and allow nature to take its own course fortunately it was a

its own course fortunately it was a

its own course fortunately it was a happy ending the woman presented herself

happy ending the woman presented herself

happy ending the woman presented herself in the clinic three months later and the

in the clinic three months later and the

in the clinic three months later and the tumor just disappeared

tumor just disappeared

tumor just disappeared strangely enough this happens a lot of

strangely enough this happens a lot of

strangely enough this happens a lot of times and many of us don’t have the kind

times and many of us don’t have the kind

times and many of us don’t have the kind of courage to be able to say I am NOT

of courage to be able to say I am NOT

of courage to be able to say I am NOT taking the treatment and the

taking the treatment and the

taking the treatment and the consequences can be otherwise but then

consequences can be otherwise but then

consequences can be otherwise but then the fact is that we have instances where

the fact is that we have instances where

the fact is that we have instances where a 42 year old man with that 1cm eye

a 42 year old man with that 1cm eye

a 42 year old man with that 1cm eye which is three artery is blocked coming

which is three artery is blocked coming

which is three artery is blocked coming into the hospital and saying that

into the hospital and saying that

into the hospital and saying that I’m not going to get stented for this

I’m not going to get stented for this

I’m not going to get stented for this particular reason it doesn’t you know

particular reason it doesn’t you know

particular reason it doesn’t you know sort of agree with me but then you know

sort of agree with me but then you know

sort of agree with me but then you know the heart builds core laterals very

the heart builds core laterals very

the heart builds core laterals very quickly and so therefore he is still

quickly and so therefore he is still

quickly and so therefore he is still alive and then of course this other

alive and then of course this other

alive and then of course this other incident of a 40 year old female whose

incident of a 40 year old female whose

incident of a 40 year old female whose father was suffering from chronic heart

father was suffering from chronic heart

father was suffering from chronic heart failure was in the hospital presented in

failure was in the hospital presented in

failure was in the hospital presented in the emergency room with acute myocardial

the emergency room with acute myocardial

the emergency room with acute myocardial infraction and well the ECG didn’t show

infraction and well the ECG didn’t show

infraction and well the ECG didn’t show anything troponin t didn’t show anything

anything troponin t didn’t show anything

anything troponin t didn’t show anything and so therefore they kept him on that

and so therefore they kept him on that

and so therefore they kept him on that stretcher for quite some time which

stretcher for quite some time which

stretcher for quite some time which unfortunately wasn’t a very pleasant

unfortunately wasn’t a very pleasant

unfortunately wasn’t a very pleasant ending and it was more tragic but the

ending and it was more tragic but the

ending and it was more tragic but the fact is that nobody could make a

fact is that nobody could make a

fact is that nobody could make a decision based on the diagnostic finding

decision based on the diagnostic finding

decision based on the diagnostic finding of the equipment maybe the equipment

of the equipment maybe the equipment

of the equipment maybe the equipment wasn’t functioning well maybe the doctor

wasn’t functioning well maybe the doctor

wasn’t functioning well maybe the doctor was not so trained enough to be able to

was not so trained enough to be able to

was not so trained enough to be able to see the signals but it was an

see the signals but it was an

see the signals but it was an unfortunate incident taking us to the

unfortunate incident taking us to the

unfortunate incident taking us to the fact that the outliers were a part of

fact that the outliers were a part of

fact that the outliers were a part of the evidence-based medicine over there

the evidence-based medicine over there

the evidence-based medicine over there were outliers in the evidence-based

were outliers in the evidence-based

were outliers in the evidence-based medicine system but at the same time

medicine system but at the same time

medicine system but at the same time they hold close to what could be

they hold close to what could be

they hold close to what could be possibly the cures for certain diseases

possibly the cures for certain diseases

possibly the cures for certain diseases which we have been struggling with very

which we have been struggling with very

which we have been struggling with very important part of my discussions and my

important part of my discussions and my

important part of my discussions and my practice there is that I’ve seen a lot

practice there is that I’ve seen a lot

practice there is that I’ve seen a lot of cases which come into the ICU and

of cases which come into the ICU and

of cases which come into the ICU and standard protocols don’t work so it’s

standard protocols don’t work so it’s

standard protocols don’t work so it’s gut feel that really takes an individual

gut feel that really takes an individual

gut feel that really takes an individual to a successful outcome with the

to a successful outcome with the

to a successful outcome with the intensive care or the emergency room my

intensive care or the emergency room my

intensive care or the emergency room my name is Vijay simham a life scientist

name is Vijay simham a life scientist

name is Vijay simham a life scientist and I practice life engineering as as a

and I practice life engineering as as a

and I practice life engineering as as a profession and so therefore I have been

profession and so therefore I have been

profession and so therefore I have been involved in all this activity and this

involved in all this activity and this

involved in all this activity and this this whole healthcare business and have

this whole healthcare business and have

this whole healthcare business and have been thinking about what works and what

been thinking about what works and what

been thinking about what works and what doesn’t work and

doesn’t work and

doesn’t work and over a period of time I’ve begun to

over a period of time I’ve begun to

over a period of time I’ve begun to apply some of my physical science

apply some of my physical science

apply some of my physical science knowledge into healthcare and oops

knowledge into healthcare and oops

knowledge into healthcare and oops using this skin effing tool have been

using this skin effing tool have been

using this skin effing tool have been trying to understand how the practice

trying to understand how the practice

trying to understand how the practice has been going if you look at it here we

has been going if you look at it here we

has been going if you look at it here we have from the very simple we have from

have from the very simple we have from

have from the very simple we have from the very simple best practices which are

the very simple best practices which are

the very simple best practices which are very linear kind of phenomenon which

very linear kind of phenomenon which

very linear kind of phenomenon which happen where if this happens then do

happen where if this happens then do

happen where if this happens then do this and generally you have a very

this and generally you have a very

this and generally you have a very predicted law a predictable outcome to

predicted law a predictable outcome to

predicted law a predictable outcome to the little bit more complicated wherever

the little bit more complicated wherever

the little bit more complicated wherever we can have say multiple outcomes from a

we can have say multiple outcomes from a

we can have say multiple outcomes from a particular action that you take two

particular action that you take two

particular action that you take two things which move towards complex and

things which move towards complex and

things which move towards complex and chaotic where you just don’t know what’s

chaotic where you just don’t know what’s

chaotic where you just don’t know what’s going to happen if you do this

going to happen if you do this

going to happen if you do this fortunately a good part of many of the

fortunately a good part of many of the

fortunately a good part of many of the stuff which evidence-based medicine

stuff which evidence-based medicine

stuff which evidence-based medicine works on falls within the best practices

works on falls within the best practices

works on falls within the best practices and the complicated range which can be

and the complicated range which can be

and the complicated range which can be comprehended by the human mind but when

comprehended by the human mind but when

comprehended by the human mind but when we go to complex and we go to chaotic

we go to complex and we go to chaotic

we go to complex and we go to chaotic systems our mind is not capable of being

systems our mind is not capable of being

systems our mind is not capable of being able to deliver that kind of computing

able to deliver that kind of computing

able to deliver that kind of computing power to comprehend say six parameters

power to comprehend say six parameters

power to comprehend say six parameters seven parameters systems and so

seven parameters systems and so

seven parameters systems and so therefore we need to depend on computers

therefore we need to depend on computers

therefore we need to depend on computers we need to defend upon processing power

we need to defend upon processing power

we need to defend upon processing power and we need to depend upon a completely

and we need to depend upon a completely

and we need to depend upon a completely new generation of the ability to sense

new generation of the ability to sense

new generation of the ability to sense our biophysical signals and that’s the

our biophysical signals and that’s the

our biophysical signals and that’s the reason why a new area of Medicine which

reason why a new area of Medicine which

reason why a new area of Medicine which is emerging across the world which is

is emerging across the world which is

is emerging across the world which is based on the fact that it is more

based on the fact that it is more

based on the fact that it is more systems oriented than just purely you

systems oriented than just purely you

systems oriented than just purely you know X leads to Y kind of a situation

know X leads to Y kind of a situation

know X leads to Y kind of a situation he’s emerging and it’s called functional

he’s emerging and it’s called functional

he’s emerging and it’s called functional medicine and there are groups of people

medicine and there are groups of people

medicine and there are groups of people practicing this across the world but

practicing this across the world but

practicing this across the world but that’s not something new to us in fact

that’s not something new to us in fact

that’s not something new to us in fact we have been exposed to

we have been exposed to

we have been exposed to systems medicines for 5,000 years and

systems medicines for 5,000 years and

systems medicines for 5,000 years and this is you must be familiar with her

this is you must be familiar with her

this is you must be familiar with her Veda and most of the holistic medicine

Veda and most of the holistic medicine

Veda and most of the holistic medicine assumes that the body is a complete

assumes that the body is a complete

assumes that the body is a complete system and it doesn’t work on the basis

system and it doesn’t work on the basis

system and it doesn’t work on the basis of small linear transactions that happen

of small linear transactions that happen

of small linear transactions that happen between molecules in the body so very

between molecules in the body so very

between molecules in the body so very similar to what we are used to in our

similar to what we are used to in our

similar to what we are used to in our weather with the three doshas and stiff

weather with the three doshas and stiff

weather with the three doshas and stiff of their start everything happens in in

of their start everything happens in in

of their start everything happens in in with three polar points where the

with three polar points where the

with three polar points where the Wellness kind of is balanced so just to

Wellness kind of is balanced so just to

Wellness kind of is balanced so just to explain where I’m coming from is that

explain where I’m coming from is that

explain where I’m coming from is that basically we move to a new paradigm of

basically we move to a new paradigm of

basically we move to a new paradigm of thinking where we are saying that the

thinking where we are saying that the

thinking where we are saying that the current evidence-based medicine is based

current evidence-based medicine is based

current evidence-based medicine is based on facts that we continue to read

on facts that we continue to read

on facts that we continue to read two-dimensional information for whatever

two-dimensional information for whatever

two-dimensional information for whatever we try to depend on and we try to

we try to depend on and we try to

we try to depend on and we try to predict things with two-dimensional

predict things with two-dimensional

predict things with two-dimensional information CT scans pap smears they are

information CT scans pap smears they are

information CT scans pap smears they are all two-dimensional images now what

all two-dimensional images now what

all two-dimensional images now what happens is that at some point of the

happens is that at some point of the

happens is that at some point of the other we are saying that these snapshot

other we are saying that these snapshot

other we are saying that these snapshot images are not going to give us the

images are not going to give us the

images are not going to give us the concept of a dynamic healthcare health

concept of a dynamic healthcare health

concept of a dynamic healthcare health and wellness situation so we are trying

and wellness situation so we are trying

and wellness situation so we are trying to say that we need to move from a

to say that we need to move from a

to say that we need to move from a paradigm of taking snapshots and static

paradigm of taking snapshots and static

paradigm of taking snapshots and static images to a kind of interactive video

images to a kind of interactive video

images to a kind of interactive video game mode of managing our wellness and

game mode of managing our wellness and

game mode of managing our wellness and obviously I mean the only stakeholder

obviously I mean the only stakeholder

obviously I mean the only stakeholder that is interested in doing this is

that is interested in doing this is

that is interested in doing this is yourself your own health right so

yourself your own health right so

yourself your own health right so therefore we need to empower individuals

therefore we need to empower individuals

therefore we need to empower individuals with the ability to be able to monitor

with the ability to be able to monitor

with the ability to be able to monitor their own health and here is what I’m

their own health and here is what I’m

their own health and here is what I’m trying to explain is in the area of

trying to explain is in the area of

trying to explain is in the area of physics where we try to look at fractals

physics where we try to look at fractals

physics where we try to look at fractals and device pathways in chaos systems

and device pathways in chaos systems

and device pathways in chaos systems where we can continuously monitor and

where we can continuously monitor and

where we can continuously monitor and steer our way through the Wellness

steer our way through the Wellness

steer our way through the Wellness tunnel an example where a therapeutic

tunnel an example where a therapeutic

tunnel an example where a therapeutic procedure is used electrically to be

procedure is used electrically to be

procedure is used electrically to be able to decide which pathway the disease

able to decide which pathway the disease

able to decide which pathway the disease is going to take or the wellness is

is going to take or the wellness is

is going to take or the wellness is going to take before it can come to a

going to take before it can come to a

going to take before it can come to a favorable outcome so this is this is

favorable outcome so this is this is

favorable outcome so this is this is something that is going to drive

something that is going to drive

something that is going to drive probably the main ingredients for AI of

probably the main ingredients for AI of

probably the main ingredients for AI of tomorrow

tomorrow

tomorrow ai is something that’s going to replace

ai is something that’s going to replace

ai is something that’s going to replace a lot of the current practices through

a lot of the current practices through

a lot of the current practices through its ability to be able to do extensive

its ability to be able to do extensive

its ability to be able to do extensive calculations in the nonlinear region and

calculations in the nonlinear region and

calculations in the nonlinear region and not really to replace people from their

not really to replace people from their

not really to replace people from their jobs as an example these are some of the

jobs as an example these are some of the

jobs as an example these are some of the tools that we have I have put together

tools that we have I have put together

tools that we have I have put together as indicators which are moving towards

as indicators which are moving towards

as indicators which are moving towards the ability to monitor very complex

the ability to monitor very complex

the ability to monitor very complex biophysical signals as they come out of

biophysical signals as they come out of

biophysical signals as they come out of the body so in short in summary I would

the body so in short in summary I would

the body so in short in summary I would say that these are the four drivers that

say that these are the four drivers that

say that these are the four drivers that are being driven on the basis of me as

are being driven on the basis of me as

are being driven on the basis of me as an individual wanting to have these

an individual wanting to have these

an individual wanting to have these these parameters in and the the health

these parameters in and the the health

these parameters in and the the health seeking behavior is one of them we are

seeking behavior is one of them we are

seeking behavior is one of them we are becoming more and more conscious that we

becoming more and more conscious that we

becoming more and more conscious that we need to be able to you know sort of seek

need to be able to you know sort of seek

need to be able to you know sort of seek good health as as a priority apart from

good health as as a priority apart from

good health as as a priority apart from food and money there are large number of

food and money there are large number of

food and money there are large number of new sensors coming in which expand the

new sensors coming in which expand the

new sensors coming in which expand the horizons of our ability to be able to

horizons of our ability to be able to

horizons of our ability to be able to see and hear things better and then of

see and hear things better and then of

see and hear things better and then of course we have a lot of AI based systems

course we have a lot of AI based systems

course we have a lot of AI based systems that will assist the physician or the

that will assist the physician or the

that will assist the physician or the people who are going to guide you into

people who are going to guide you into

people who are going to guide you into wellness or the individual to himself to

wellness or the individual to himself to

wellness or the individual to himself to be able to achieve that goal of

be able to achieve that goal of

be able to achieve that goal of remaining well and most importantly

remaining well and most importantly

remaining well and most importantly there is a move that we can actually

there is a move that we can actually

there is a move that we can actually achieve

achieve

achieve towards what we call as personalized

towards what we call as personalized

towards what we call as personalized medicine so which I’m saying is what I’m

medicine so which I’m saying is what I’m

medicine so which I’m saying is what I’m saying here is that basically

saying here is that basically

saying here is that basically evidence-based medicine and personalized

evidence-based medicine and personalized

evidence-based medicine and personalized medicine are kind of non compatible in

medicine are kind of non compatible in

medicine are kind of non compatible in there I mean they are non they’re

there I mean they are non they’re

there I mean they are non they’re disjointed amongst themselves they are

disjointed amongst themselves they are

disjointed amongst themselves they are orkut orthogonal so there are many

orkut orthogonal so there are many

orkut orthogonal so there are many questions and one of the biggest

questions and one of the biggest

questions and one of the biggest challenges in Medical Sciences the word

challenges in Medical Sciences the word

challenges in Medical Sciences the word idiopathic and obviously I mean we don’t

idiopathic and obviously I mean we don’t

idiopathic and obviously I mean we don’t have answers to everything and in the

have answers to everything and in the

have answers to everything and in the world but the word idiopathic happens

world but the word idiopathic happens

world but the word idiopathic happens very very frequently to many of us and

very very frequently to many of us and

very very frequently to many of us and one of the major challenges that we’ve

one of the major challenges that we’ve

one of the major challenges that we’ve been trying to I’ve been asking many

been trying to I’ve been asking many

been trying to I’ve been asking many questions to people as an engineer is

questions to people as an engineer is

questions to people as an engineer is that our blood system runs about a

that our blood system runs about a

that our blood system runs about a hundred thousand kilometers how come

hundred thousand kilometers how come

hundred thousand kilometers how come with a hundred and twenty millimeters of

with a hundred and twenty millimeters of

with a hundred and twenty millimeters of mercury we are able to pump this blood

mercury we are able to pump this blood

mercury we are able to pump this blood through the body everyone tells me that

through the body everyone tells me that

through the body everyone tells me that blood flows through the capillaries and

blood flows through the capillaries and

blood flows through the capillaries and through the various veins and arteries

through the various veins and arteries

through the various veins and arteries as a Newtonian fluid or you know but is

as a Newtonian fluid or you know but is

as a Newtonian fluid or you know but is it possible there is a little

it possible there is a little

it possible there is a little calculation here which says that I need

calculation here which says that I need

calculation here which says that I need 10 to power of 14 bars to actually take

10 to power of 14 bars to actually take

10 to power of 14 bars to actually take even water through this this length of

even water through this this length of

even water through this this length of tubing but we have only 100 and 20

tubing but we have only 100 and 20

tubing but we have only 100 and 20 millimeters of mercury I’m happy to

millimeters of mercury I’m happy to

millimeters of mercury I’m happy to receive your thoughts and ideas about

receive your thoughts and ideas about

receive your thoughts and ideas about this but it could be another subject for

this but it could be another subject for

this but it could be another subject for somebody to talk about it I have a

somebody to talk about it I have a

somebody to talk about it I have a friend called Jay Harman who probably

friend called Jay Harman who probably

friend called Jay Harman who probably has the answer but he hasn’t told me yes

has the answer but he hasn’t told me yes

has the answer but he hasn’t told me yes or no thank you very much yeah

or no thank you very much yeah

or no thank you very much yeah [Applause]

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