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Humanismo Científico | Dr. Wilson de Oliveira Junior | TEDxRecife


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We are going to tell you about a new one.

look at the doctor-patient relationship

current

this is a subject that I already come to me

dedicating through a chapter of

book of seminars in the

have placed this and this

you will understand why he

is important and why I did this

title in the sense that we analyze the

current model of medical care

see nothing better to talk about

Anything you bring is this.

to the real world and the defendant world would

in this case a 45-year-old patient is

seek medical attention with complaint

chest pain

feeling faint or sweating

to say that an excess of sweat is

sensation of vertigo this came in

outbreaks and in six months as you can

see he sought a gastroenterologist

an otolaryngologist two

ophthalmologists two neurologists five

general practitioners and 14

emergency and he would tell me

in these emergency calls he

usually looked for a different hospital

of the one who had been served because

this because he thought he had

something and in fact it is what

I told him that he did not have

nothing so famous diagnosis you do not

Is there anything that patient is tired of being

attended in our city and decided to leave

to another center and where unfortunately

was submitted to cardiac catheterization

who again showed that he did not

had nothing and the doctor told him that

no point in looking for anything else

because he had no disease and is

Imagine how this patient got a

patient with all that range of

symptoms symptoms said that made

quality of life it extremely

committed both with regard to the

labor part and the part is

socialization

and that image of the manche cry

represents as well as those patients who

suffer and have this diagnosis you

there is nothing

this reaches a point where there is a

between the doctor and the

patient at the moment he says not me

I have you, you do not know what I

I have to suffer that patient

had in fact this patient was

panic disorder that is

something extremely frequent and appears

very often in emergencies

because this is because the

panic disorder he has

very frequent symptoms in the sphere

cardiovascular

of course there are other symptoms but

especially in the cardiovascular sphere by

that he does not

specialist in mental illness, but the

cardiologist because another

suffering is physical these diseases

both depression and depression

panic they are your husband

soul to see that depression today is the

second cause of work failure is a

extremely crippling disease and

unfortunately very poorly diagnosed and

very ill-treated people imagine that

depression if not sadness

systemic and rich disease.

in physical symptoms and causes the

least 40% of those looking for

general practitioners they have

depression is unfortunately estimated to

only 25 the center are diagnosed

Why is this because it is actually a

somatization that would be the

when I can not reveal my pain

psychic speaking my body cries or

whether we live in a society

which some call perpetual euphoria

I know that if I talk about my suffering

emotional and if you will not be taken very

into consideration between my body

cries and cries in various ways

symptoms appear in all games by

this they start looking for

specialists

according to the symptoms that appear and

This patient has a great suffering.

because the very own family

society still has a very

great in relation to diseases

then somatization does nothing

more is than you bring your

suffering body and it is in

attempt to have you heard me

I think these two screens show

clearly this I see in this first screen

which is also of the joystick it shows a

picture of the beloved seju being

abandoned by the beloved and see where he

put the hand he puts his hand on the

heart was all the separation and I see

on the other screen a patient with angina or

be that pain due to lack of oxygen

in the heart and see where you put your hand

then in visual language anguish

angina confuse even because they have the

same Greek root

it then shows why these

patients are looking for distressed seek

the cardiologist to his 90 percent of them

They think they have physical illness and how

patients are cared for

by the traditional model model

traditional model that is

linked in the disease the traditional model

in which I was formed is the one who sees

the disease and not the patient is the

sees the exams there is an overvaluation

complementary techniques and a

tendency to use an excess of

medication and above all this model

neglects the subjective part and

subjectivity of each person is what

makes him the only one to be sick

may be the same but there is the impact of

disease in each patient is unique

that the same patient of the patients

with the same disease he virgin of fear

different conduct because the

diseases are the same but humans are

are different there is a

overvaluation of the use of

complementary exams

some exams such as the one that

the patient leaves the cardiac catheterization

are not completely exams is

example of risk then if you use

these exams in excess

on the contrary he knows besides not

helping them can disrupt bringing

a series of

side effects also another

aspect of this model is exactly the

super medication is what we call it

today to see you diagnosed and over

medicalization of the medication

symptoms

the greatest proof that we have today

called quaternary prevention, which

would be prevention with the plenary

It would be exactly you work on

sense of treating side effects

produced by drugs throughout the

pharmaceutical industry is interested

in drug use

the patient himself is influenced by

that in fact this technology

this would bring this true and sincere

deification of technology is not only

the doctor the patient also ended

being convinced that the tests will be

solve everything then there is a reversal

of values

the doctor who is really essential

he became an accessory and the pass and

the supplementary examination which is ancillary

It became essential and this patient

all those pilgrim symptoms of

medical and a medium time comes that

he asks for help and I brought this book

So you can see when you were in the

Congress in Spain that book says

exactly this

when is the diagnosis would be the system

There is nothing or the same doctor

Spanish, he found that this patient

They suffer a lot because it’s not

diagnosed because there is no

tomography of the soul does not exist

resonance of the soul

Actually, this is the diagnosis.

given by listening to the patient and with

he goes out looking for explanations that

can be several and one of the most common

is google it go doctor google

in order to clarify if that is what it is

who really has illness since he

is convinced that he has sickness

the doctor who can not diagnose

nothing says doctor google but that’s it

in this particular aspect

as the symptoms are very specific

he can not get clarification either

so in that period I thought what

There are so many patients

suffering

without diagnosis inappropriate treatment o

problem is the average model

This model that I told you

previously it is a model that the

relationship is between the doctor and the

and when I have a doctor’s relationship

and disease, I assume that the

diseases are the same as those diseases can

be the same but each patient is unique

now how can I respect the

I want to treat illness

as if it were the same as in

any human being

so the patient is really unique and

unrepeatable and basically to a

compelling and soul that gives

to the singularity of this patient or

What are we proposing we will leave

medicine for Disease Medicine

person in addition I see a human being

entails a paradoxical truth.

at the same time that we are here

similar

we are extremely different and it is

exactly in the perception of this

difference that I’m going to act for that

sick

even though they have the same disease

differently because in each patient it is

disease has its own impact on

that person I can not handle the

people by an algorithm by

example medicine sometimes i feel

that it aspires to be an exact science

it will never be an exact science she

was born of philosophy and is a science

which is much closer to the

human science medicine in person

It is nothing more than seen in humans

its totality that is a ransom of the

medicine and by tatiana that she could see

human being within its totality and the

relationship between doctor and patient and

not in which doctor the disease or much

less then medical and the examination would be the

the advantages of a person’s medicine would be

basically first it does not ignore

the scientific part is actually

it does not treat the disease , let alone the

exam

she sees the patient as unique and above all

it brings the possibility of

it is emotional gratification that is not

only for the doctor is per patient is the

which I call in the case of the doctor

spiritual salary

this one would be an example is a sick

is that we have operated

he had a bypass surgery

but this patient could not live

properly after surgery because

develop a depression that people

flame pressure back home 30 40%

of patients who undergo

heart by the symbolism of the heart

there is no organ in man

has greater symbolism of the heart

often an ego infarction is very

greater than the fact of the heart and

When I dealt with depression there is

No other consultation asked him.

How old was he? He said to me.

that I have, I have in fact only five

years because I just started living there

five years when I was treated

depression

so it shows that when you do

measurement of the person I actually do not

I just take away what I

I want to give life back and there really was

this patient was a great

spiritual salary for me in the

that the milk came back to live I see

what would be the great challenge of

person’s medicine would be the first

unfortunately in the world

whole formation is still called

naturalistic formation in which

relationship is very fragmented in

relation to each organ as if each

regardless of the

first aspect would be one aspect

fundamental beyond medical training

It would be the participation of all of you

if you do not participate as an attitude

citizen in the sense of saying this is not

Medicine is what I want, I’m not

satisfied with this medicine at a

Recent work published in bidding

that he says the following they wanted

knowledge among the Americans see no

was among Americans not all among

Blacks and Hispanics were mainly

descending level of Irish

fathers and not only 18% of the

Americans are satisfied with this

kind of service is a service

extremely technological in green

there is a patient medical encounter in the

most of the time said a mismatch

doctor patient

so see what I wanted to leave for

you as a message every time you

look for a doctor ask him

adopted yours can you hear me and I hope

that always this answer is yes

because if this answer is yes

means that you will have a

and this therapeutic link

only this meeting will have felt it already

brings an anxiolytic effect you do not

can enter the middle and comes out worse than

who entered

it is then having the anti

generic

then it is fundamental that people

understand that medicine is based

basically in science in art in the

technology and humanism

What happened was that we had a

technological obesity would accompany

a human malnutrition then

technical competence without competence

is extremely dangerous

especially when we are dealing

with vulnerable human beings all

we regressed from the disease and when we

we seek the doctor we want besides

of the technician I say that the students in the

that we have an inflation

of technicians in a deflation of

ie doctors are finding that

doctor who looks at you understands that

there is a human like him

after you and I are accounts were

made from the same neighborhood

I’m as a doctor here but

surely another moment I’m

with a patient then if I do not have

this vision I did not return to compassion

in relation to the patient if I have a

posture of god ph as some have ne

God’s wizard this relationship does not

why does this individual think

that he is superior to the customer is already

an asymmetrical relationship on one side and

I have health and a supposed knowledge of the

Other side I have a disease or not

know if you can not make this

more symmetrical relationship is evident

patient relationship

will be fractured

so I ask you to

help

the silent revolution because it is a

difficult revolution is few

doctors really is not bothered

with this model, we are aa

including the ability to

conspirators in the sense that we

we do not think a heart enters the

my office does not enter a liver

between a person with a unique biography

and that requires of us a relation

singular

each patient medical encounter is unique

and it’s exactly for being the one he goes

depend on you and put yourself in the

his that is his coach is what

We call it empathy. I be.

I put on the pain

the size of the pain only knows the owner of the pain

then these diseases of the soul they

remain extremely frequent

and extremely misdiagnosed

so do not forget when you look

the doctor ask that question what on

truth is your right you

Can you hear me, doctor? Because when you

another patient delivers the diagnosis

and this brings both the patient and

for the doctor a bonus

emotional neckel already translate as

spiritual salary

Thank you, I’m counting on you.

for this silent revolution

[Applause]

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