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How to Pay Our Teachers More | Erica Jordan-Thomas | TEDxCharlotte


how do we pay our teachers more that is

how do we pay our teachers more that is a question that keeps principals

a question that keeps principals

a question that keeps principals district leaders superintendents and

district leaders superintendents and

district leaders superintendents and policy makers up at night as a high

policy makers up at night as a high

policy makers up at night as a high school math teacher I loved teaching I

school math teacher I loved teaching I

school math teacher I loved teaching I love my kids I love my families I love

love my kids I love my families I love

love my kids I love my families I love the content I loved it all in my

the content I loved it all in my

the content I loved it all in my classroom my kids were breaking down

classroom my kids were breaking down

classroom my kids were breaking down barriers

barriers

barriers I saw the student who had previously

I saw the student who had previously

I saw the student who had previously failed his last math class achieved one

failed his last math class achieved one

failed his last math class achieved one of the highest scores on our state exam

of the highest scores on our state exam

of the highest scores on our state exam I saw the student who said to me that he

I saw the student who said to me that he

I saw the student who said to me that he wasn’t the college type can mean his

wasn’t the college type can mean his

wasn’t the college type can mean his college acceptance letter in my

college acceptance letter in my

college acceptance letter in my classroom my kids were defying

classroom my kids were defying

classroom my kids were defying stereotypes they were doing what society

stereotypes they were doing what society

stereotypes they were doing what society said it was too late for them to do in

said it was too late for them to do in

said it was too late for them to do in my classroom I was changing the world

my classroom I was changing the world

my classroom I was changing the world I believe that teaching is one of the

I believe that teaching is one of the

I believe that teaching is one of the most patriotic acts in this country

but as a teacher I did not feel

but as a teacher I did not feel patriotic I felt broke I felt very broke

patriotic I felt broke I felt very broke

patriotic I felt broke I felt very broke I was struggling on a salary of $33,000

I was struggling on a salary of $33,000

I was struggling on a salary of $33,000 but I knew that this was my life’s work

but I knew that this was my life’s work

but I knew that this was my life’s work and purpose I knew that I wanted to

and purpose I knew that I wanted to

and purpose I knew that I wanted to reach even more kids and I knew that I

reach even more kids and I knew that I

reach even more kids and I knew that I wanted to create a different reality for

wanted to create a different reality for

wanted to create a different reality for our teachers so I became a principal how

our teachers so I became a principal how

our teachers so I became a principal how do we pay our teachers more well to

do we pay our teachers more well to

do we pay our teachers more well to answer that question it requires us to

answer that question it requires us to

answer that question it requires us to think about school a little different

think about school a little different

think about school a little different and that’s tough because school is one

and that’s tough because school is one

and that’s tough because school is one of the few experiences good or bad that

of the few experiences good or bad that

of the few experiences good or bad that we all share and for most of us that’s a

we all share and for most of us that’s a

we all share and for most of us that’s a teacher in the front of a classroom with

teacher in the front of a classroom with

teacher in the front of a classroom with a group of students for most of us I’m

a group of students for most of us I’m

a group of students for most of us I’m sure that vision probably doesn’t

sure that vision probably doesn’t

sure that vision probably doesn’t include one of my favorite people

include one of my favorite people

include one of my favorite people Beyonce

but she is exactly who I think about

but she is exactly who I think about when I think about school differently

when I think about school differently

when I think about school differently take a moment and think about all the

take a moment and think about all the

take a moment and think about all the different venues where beyonce has

different venues where beyonce has

different venues where beyonce has performed the Super Bowl Madison Square

performed the Super Bowl Madison Square

performed the Super Bowl Madison Square Garden the Grammys the BT Awards some of

Garden the Grammys the BT Awards some of

Garden the Grammys the BT Awards some of the largest venues in the US and in the

the largest venues in the US and in the

the largest venues in the US and in the world so how does she get access to them

world so how does she get access to them

world so how does she get access to them well let’s look at her data she has

well let’s look at her data she has

well let’s look at her data she has released six solo albums each one of

released six solo albums each one of

released six solo albums each one of them went straight to number one

them went straight to number one

them went straight to number one therefore there is a hundred percent

therefore there is a hundred percent

therefore there is a hundred percent probability if Beyonce drops an album

probability if Beyonce drops an album

probability if Beyonce drops an album tomorrow it will be number one and an

tomorrow it will be number one and an

tomorrow it will be number one and an entertainers job is to make people feel

entertainers job is to make people feel

entertainers job is to make people feel and Beyonce certainly excels at that

and Beyonce certainly excels at that

and Beyonce certainly excels at that when I listen to her music

when I listen to her music

when I listen to her music I feel confident and empowered and my

I feel confident and empowered and my

I feel confident and empowered and my identity as a black woman so with such a

identity as a black woman so with such a

identity as a black woman so with such a clear impact we want her to reach as

clear impact we want her to reach as

clear impact we want her to reach as many people as possible and not just

many people as possible and not just

many people as possible and not just through recordings but live great data

through recordings but live great data

through recordings but live great data leads to access to a larger venue which

leads to access to a larger venue which

leads to access to a larger venue which leads to an even greater impact so how

leads to an even greater impact so how

leads to an even greater impact so how does apply to paying our teachers more

does apply to paying our teachers more

does apply to paying our teachers more well there are Beyonce educators in

well there are Beyonce educators in

well there are Beyonce educators in every single school building dropping

every single school building dropping

every single school building dropping number-one albums year after year in the

number-one albums year after year in the

number-one albums year after year in the form of mine blowing results with their

form of mine blowing results with their

form of mine blowing results with their kids so with great data they should

kids so with great data they should

kids so with great data they should receive access to a larger venue which

receive access to a larger venue which

receive access to a larger venue which would lead to an even greater impact but

would lead to an even greater impact but

would lead to an even greater impact but this is not the case in education

this is not the case in education

this is not the case in education because for a teacher there is really

because for a teacher there is really

because for a teacher there is really only one venue a classroom it is also

only one venue a classroom it is also

only one venue a classroom it is also incredibly difficult to find a Beyonce

incredibly difficult to find a Beyonce

incredibly difficult to find a Beyonce as

as

as cater to place in every single classroom

cater to place in every single classroom

cater to place in every single classroom in a building and this is something that

in a building and this is something that

in a building and this is something that all schools struggle with however this

all schools struggle with however this

all schools struggle with however this challenge is multiplied and low-income

challenge is multiplied and low-income

challenge is multiplied and low-income communities at Ranson IB middle school

communities at Ranson IB middle school

communities at Ranson IB middle school where I am the proud principal sixty

where I am the proud principal sixty

where I am the proud principal sixty five sixty five percent of our scholars

five sixty five percent of our scholars

five sixty five percent of our scholars come to us below grade level so we do

come to us below grade level so we do

come to us below grade level so we do not have time to wait on a Beyonce

not have time to wait on a Beyonce

not have time to wait on a Beyonce educator to magically materialize in

educator to magically materialize in

educator to magically materialize in every single classroom so rather than

every single classroom so rather than

every single classroom so rather than asking the question how can we place a

asking the question how can we place a

asking the question how can we place a Beyonce educator in every single

Beyonce educator in every single

Beyonce educator in every single classroom we flip the question how can

classroom we flip the question how can

classroom we flip the question how can we rethink our venues and place every

we rethink our venues and place every

we rethink our venues and place every child in front of a Beyonce educator

child in front of a Beyonce educator

child in front of a Beyonce educator while paying that educator more here’s

while paying that educator more here’s

while paying that educator more here’s how we did it

how we did it

how we did it meet Bobby miles mr. miles was actually

meet Bobby miles mr. miles was actually

meet Bobby miles mr. miles was actually a pre-med major at winston-salem State

a pre-med major at winston-salem State

a pre-med major at winston-salem State University and his dreams to be a

University and his dreams to be a

University and his dreams to be a pediatrician were completely derailed

pediatrician were completely derailed

pediatrician were completely derailed after a summer medical internship which

after a summer medical internship which

after a summer medical internship which he hated

he hated

he hated so a mentor suggested to him that given

so a mentor suggested to him that given

so a mentor suggested to him that given his love for kids he considered teaching

his love for kids he considered teaching

his love for kids he considered teaching and it was something that he thought

and it was something that he thought

and it was something that he thought about before but shied away from after

about before but shied away from after

about before but shied away from after filling the profession wasn’t respected

filling the profession wasn’t respected

filling the profession wasn’t respected but he took the risk and ten years ago

but he took the risk and ten years ago

but he took the risk and ten years ago he joined the Branson Ivy family as a

he joined the Branson Ivy family as a

he joined the Branson Ivy family as a sixth grade science teacher and pretty

sixth grade science teacher and pretty

sixth grade science teacher and pretty soon he made his mark he had some of the

soon he made his mark he had some of the

soon he made his mark he had some of the highest science data in the district he

highest science data in the district he

highest science data in the district he was also a district Teacher of the Year

was also a district Teacher of the Year

was also a district Teacher of the Year finalist so he may not look like Beyonce

finalist so he may not look like Beyonce

finalist so he may not look like Beyonce but he is definitely a Beyonce educator

but he is definitely a Beyonce educator

but he is definitely a Beyonce educator but at the time mr. miles was only

but at the time mr. miles was only

but at the time mr. miles was only reaching a hundred and twenty students

reaching a hundred and twenty students

reaching a hundred and twenty students which was just ten percent of our school

which was just ten percent of our school

which was just ten percent of our school population so he was working really hard

population so he was working really hard

population so he was working really hard and getting great results but his venue

and getting great results but his venue

and getting great results but his venue was holding him back

was holding him back

was holding him back today mr. miles reaches 937 scholars

today mr. miles reaches 937 scholars

today mr. miles reaches 937 scholars which is a hundred percent of our school

which is a hundred percent of our school

which is a hundred percent of our school population now how we did it is not

population now how we did it is not

population now how we did it is not rocket science we just simply rethought

rocket science we just simply rethought

rocket science we just simply rethought our venues five years ago we partnered

our venues five years ago we partnered

our venues five years ago we partnered with an organization called a public

with an organization called a public

with an organization called a public impact and through that partnership we

impact and through that partnership we

impact and through that partnership we created what’s called an opportunity

created what’s called an opportunity

created what’s called an opportunity culture an opportunity culture expands

culture an opportunity culture expands

culture an opportunity culture expands the reach of effective educators to

the reach of effective educators to

the reach of effective educators to reach more students while paying that

reach more students while paying that

reach more students while paying that educator more so there’s many ways to do

educator more so there’s many ways to do

educator more so there’s many ways to do this but the way that we chose is to

this but the way that we chose is to

this but the way that we chose is to have excellent educators leading teacher

have excellent educators leading teacher

have excellent educators leading teacher teams so there was a new position that

teams so there was a new position that

teams so there was a new position that we created called a multi classroom

we created called a multi classroom

we created called a multi classroom leader or we like to call it an MCL mr.

leader or we like to call it an MCL mr.

leader or we like to call it an MCL mr. miles was one of our first MC ELLs

miles was one of our first MC ELLs

miles was one of our first MC ELLs and in this role he spent his time in

and in this role he spent his time in

and in this role he spent his time in primarily three ways the first is that

primarily three ways the first is that

primarily three ways the first is that he created all the lesson plans for the

he created all the lesson plans for the

he created all the lesson plans for the entire science department

entire science department

entire science department so at Ranson IB we have five science

so at Ranson IB we have five science

so at Ranson IB we have five science teachers and every single day each one

teachers and every single day each one

teachers and every single day each one of those teachers is delivering a lesson

of those teachers is delivering a lesson

of those teachers is delivering a lesson created by mr. miles so even though he

created by mr. miles so even though he

created by mr. miles so even though he cannot physically be in five places at

cannot physically be in five places at

cannot physically be in five places at once

once

once his instruction is there the second way

his instruction is there the second way

his instruction is there the second way that he spends his time is that he

that he spends his time is that he

that he spends his time is that he serves as the instructional coach for

serves as the instructional coach for

serves as the instructional coach for those five science teachers so every

those five science teachers so every

those five science teachers so every single week he visits their classroom

single week he visits their classroom

single week he visits their classroom and he has a locked in feedback time to

and he has a locked in feedback time to

and he has a locked in feedback time to celebrate what’s going really well and

celebrate what’s going really well and

celebrate what’s going really well and identify one bite-sized action step for

identify one bite-sized action step for

identify one bite-sized action step for the next week and lastly but most

the next week and lastly but most

the next week and lastly but most importantly mr. miles still gets to be a

importantly mr. miles still gets to be a

importantly mr. miles still gets to be a teacher the last thing that we want to

teacher the last thing that we want to

teacher the last thing that we want to do is provide only one opportunity for

do is provide only one opportunity for

do is provide only one opportunity for our teachers to excel in the profession

our teachers to excel in the profession

our teachers to excel in the profession and having them leave the classroom so

and having them leave the classroom so

and having them leave the classroom so every single week Mr mouse sits down

every single week Mr mouse sits down

every single week Mr mouse sits down with his teachers and they analyze data

with his teachers and they analyze data

with his teachers and they analyze data to determine what students need a little

to determine what students need a little

to determine what students need a little bit more help and he creates a lesson

bit more help and he creates a lesson

bit more help and he creates a lesson plan tailored to those to their needs

plan tailored to those to their needs

plan tailored to those to their needs and he delivers that lesson plan himself

and he delivers that lesson plan himself

and he delivers that lesson plan himself in a small group setting mr. miles

in a small group setting mr. miles

in a small group setting mr. miles just like Beyonce creates really strong

just like Beyonce creates really strong

just like Beyonce creates really strong connections with kids black males make

connections with kids black males make

connections with kids black males make up less than 2% of the teaching

up less than 2% of the teaching

up less than 2% of the teaching profession however a trance and ib1

profession however a trance and ib1

profession however a trance and ib1 and three of our students is a black boy

and three of our students is a black boy

and three of our students is a black boy so not only have we expanded mr. mouths

so not only have we expanded mr. mouths

so not only have we expanded mr. mouths instructional impact but we’ve expanded

instructional impact but we’ve expanded

instructional impact but we’ve expanded the opportunity for our black boys to

the opportunity for our black boys to

the opportunity for our black boys to see themselves in their teacher

so we’ve created an opportunity for

so we’ve created an opportunity for culture of culture for our teachers but

culture of culture for our teachers but

culture of culture for our teachers but we’ve also created an opportunity

we’ve also created an opportunity

we’ve also created an opportunity culture for our kids every single child

culture for our kids every single child

culture for our kids every single child comes to us at a different starting

comes to us at a different starting

comes to us at a different starting point and a unique way in which they

point and a unique way in which they

point and a unique way in which they learn and it is our responsibility as

learn and it is our responsibility as

learn and it is our responsibility as educators to meet them where they are

educators to meet them where they are

educators to meet them where they are and to create a personalized learning

and to create a personalized learning

and to create a personalized learning experience for every single child so

experience for every single child so

experience for every single child so there was a second position that we

there was a second position that we

there was a second position that we created through opportunity culture

created through opportunity culture

created through opportunity culture called a blended learning teacher meet

called a blended learning teacher meet

called a blended learning teacher meet Molly Whalen miss Whalen was actually an

Molly Whalen miss Whalen was actually an

Molly Whalen miss Whalen was actually an experienced math teacher and she had

experienced math teacher and she had

experienced math teacher and she had left the classroom to explore her

left the classroom to explore her

left the classroom to explore her interests in graduate school to become a

interests in graduate school to become a

interests in graduate school to become a social worker and while there she deeply

social worker and while there she deeply

social worker and while there she deeply missed the classroom so she moved back

missed the classroom so she moved back

missed the classroom so she moved back to Charlotte and joined the Ranson Ivy

to Charlotte and joined the Ranson Ivy

to Charlotte and joined the Ranson Ivy family as a 7th grade math teacher and

family as a 7th grade math teacher and

family as a 7th grade math teacher and after just one year it was so clear that

after just one year it was so clear that

after just one year it was so clear that miss Whalen was a Beyonce educator

miss Whalen was a Beyonce educator

miss Whalen was a Beyonce educator students at all levels in her classroom

students at all levels in her classroom

students at all levels in her classroom made high growth meaning that they

made high growth meaning that they

made high growth meaning that they achieved more than a year’s worth of

achieved more than a year’s worth of

achieved more than a year’s worth of growth and less than a year’s time so we

growth and less than a year’s time so we

growth and less than a year’s time so we approached her about taking on this new

approached her about taking on this new

approached her about taking on this new position of becoming a blended learning

position of becoming a blended learning

position of becoming a blended learning teacher or for the sake of an acronym we

teacher or for the sake of an acronym we

teacher or for the sake of an acronym we call it a BLT

call it a BLT

call it a BLT and in the role of being a BLT she would

and in the role of being a BLT she would

and in the role of being a BLT she would take what she knew about great

take what she knew about great

take what she knew about great instruction and combine that with the

instruction and combine that with the

instruction and combine that with the use of technology to create a

use of technology to create a

use of technology to create a personalized learning experience for her

personalized learning experience for her

personalized learning experience for her students so in her classroom she would

students so in her classroom she would

students so in her classroom she would have two groups of students one group

have two groups of students one group

have two groups of students one group who would need just a little bit more

who would need just a little bit more

who would need just a little bit more help would be with her face-to-face

help would be with her face-to-face

help would be with her face-to-face engaged in instruction the second group

engaged in instruction the second group

engaged in instruction the second group of students would be online engaged in a

of students would be online engaged in a

of students would be online engaged in a lesson that she created

lesson that she created

lesson that she created halfway through the lesson they would

halfway through the lesson they would

halfway through the lesson they would switch the students previously with her

switch the students previously with her

switch the students previously with her were now online practicing what they

were now online practicing what they

were now online practicing what they just learned and the students previously

just learned and the students previously

just learned and the students previously online are now with her enriching that

online are now with her enriching that

online are now with her enriching that content

content

content she was so phenomenal in this position

she was so phenomenal in this position

she was so phenomenal in this position that we could not stop there today miss

that we could not stop there today miss

that we could not stop there today miss Whalen is an MCL just like mr. miles

Whalen is an MCL just like mr. miles

Whalen is an MCL just like mr. miles leading a teaching team of three eighth

leading a teaching team of three eighth

leading a teaching team of three eighth grade math teachers she is now reaching

grade math teachers she is now reaching

grade math teachers she is now reaching 323 students with which is a third of

323 students with which is a third of

323 students with which is a third of our building and she is assisting in

our building and she is assisting in

our building and she is assisting in supporting those teachers and

supporting those teachers and

supporting those teachers and implementing the same blended learning

implementing the same blended learning

implementing the same blended learning model that she had in her classroom so

model that she had in her classroom so

model that she had in her classroom so we’ve created this opportunity culture

we’ve created this opportunity culture

we’ve created this opportunity culture for our teachers then we’ve created this

for our teachers then we’ve created this

for our teachers then we’ve created this opportunity culture for our kids but how

opportunity culture for our kids but how

opportunity culture for our kids but how does this actually pay our teachers more

does this actually pay our teachers more

does this actually pay our teachers more well I received my budget prior to the

well I received my budget prior to the

well I received my budget prior to the beginning of every school year and

beginning of every school year and

beginning of every school year and through flexibility that I have I can

through flexibility that I have I can

through flexibility that I have I can create positions and through this

create positions and through this

create positions and through this flexibility I can trade and create our

flexibility I can trade and create our

flexibility I can trade and create our opportunity culture positions adding at

opportunity culture positions adding at

opportunity culture positions adding at least $16,000 on to their teacher base

least $16,000 on to their teacher base

least $16,000 on to their teacher base salary and this is something that I’m

salary and this is something that I’m

salary and this is something that I’m doing within my existing budget so this

doing within my existing budget so this

doing within my existing budget so this does not cost me more does not cost the

does not cost me more does not cost the

does not cost me more does not cost the district more and the great thing about

district more and the great thing about

district more and the great thing about this is is that it doesn’t go away in

this is is that it doesn’t go away in

this is is that it doesn’t go away in comparison to some grant supplement

comparison to some grant supplement

comparison to some grant supplement programs so this is truly sustainable it

programs so this is truly sustainable it

programs so this is truly sustainable it won’t go away in a year even

won’t go away in a year even

won’t go away in a year even five years and what’s been the impact of

five years and what’s been the impact of

five years and what’s been the impact of opportunity culture in our building

opportunity culture in our building

opportunity culture in our building well our staff they’re happier there’s

well our staff they’re happier there’s

well our staff they’re happier there’s been some conversation around whether

been some conversation around whether

been some conversation around whether it’s not tip it’s fair to pay some

it’s not tip it’s fair to pay some

it’s not tip it’s fair to pay some teachers more than others but our

teachers more than others but our

teachers more than others but our teachers truly value the support of

teachers truly value the support of

teachers truly value the support of their mcl no longer our teachers staying

their mcl no longer our teachers staying

their mcl no longer our teachers staying up late at night trying to figure out

up late at night trying to figure out

up late at night trying to figure out what they’re teaching the next day they

what they’re teaching the next day they

what they’re teaching the next day they have the support of their mcl and we are

have the support of their mcl and we are

have the support of their mcl and we are making teaching more sustainable through

making teaching more sustainable through

making teaching more sustainable through improving work/life balance secondly our

improving work/life balance secondly our

improving work/life balance secondly our teachers are getting better faster they

teachers are getting better faster they

teachers are getting better faster they are receiving feedback every single week

are receiving feedback every single week

are receiving feedback every single week from a Beyonce educator and when our

from a Beyonce educator and when our

from a Beyonce educator and when our teachers get better our kids get better

teachers get better our kids get better

teachers get better our kids get better and lastly but most importantly our kids

and lastly but most importantly our kids

and lastly but most importantly our kids are learning

are learning

are learning we have been ranked number two in the

we have been ranked number two in the

we have been ranked number two in the district for our growth and language

district for our growth and language

district for our growth and language arts and number three in the district

arts and number three in the district

arts and number three in the district for our growth in science opportunity

for our growth in science opportunity

for our growth in science opportunity culture is making a difference I said

culture is making a difference I said

culture is making a difference I said before that I believe that teaching is

before that I believe that teaching is

before that I believe that teaching is one of the most patriotic acts in this

one of the most patriotic acts in this

one of the most patriotic acts in this country every single day parents send

country every single day parents send

country every single day parents send their greatest gift to a teacher the

their greatest gift to a teacher the

their greatest gift to a teacher the fate of this country rests on the

fate of this country rests on the

fate of this country rests on the shoulders of our teachers the leaders of

shoulders of our teachers the leaders of

shoulders of our teachers the leaders of tomorrow are sitting in classrooms today

tomorrow are sitting in classrooms today

tomorrow are sitting in classrooms today with our teachers if we do not change

with our teachers if we do not change

with our teachers if we do not change the way that we pay our teachers because

the way that we pay our teachers because

the way that we pay our teachers because their pay does not reflect this impact

their pay does not reflect this impact

their pay does not reflect this impact more teachers will continue to leave the

more teachers will continue to leave the

more teachers will continue to leave the profession because they are tired of

profession because they are tired of

profession because they are tired of working two or three jobs just to

working two or three jobs just to

working two or three jobs just to provide for their family or even worse

provide for their family or even worse

provide for their family or even worse those who have the

those who have the

those who have the potential to be great teachers just like

potential to be great teachers just like

potential to be great teachers just like mr. miles and miss Whelan won’t even

mr. miles and miss Whelan won’t even

mr. miles and miss Whelan won’t even consider their profession at all

consider their profession at all

consider their profession at all opportunity culture it makes a

opportunity culture it makes a

opportunity culture it makes a difference and we took the risk five

difference and we took the risk five

difference and we took the risk five years ago a trance and I be to say yes

years ago a trance and I be to say yes

years ago a trance and I be to say yes to public impact and being one of the

to public impact and being one of the

to public impact and being one of the first district schools in the nation to

first district schools in the nation to

first district schools in the nation to change the way we pay our teachers so

change the way we pay our teachers so

change the way we pay our teachers so we’re serving not just as the case study

we’re serving not just as the case study

we’re serving not just as the case study of how to make this happen but we’re

of how to make this happen but we’re

of how to make this happen but we’re proving that it’s possible

proving that it’s possible

proving that it’s possible every student everywhere every day

every student everywhere every day

every student everywhere every day deserves access to a great teacher and a

deserves access to a great teacher and a

deserves access to a great teacher and a trance an IB that is not a slogan it is

trance an IB that is not a slogan it is

trance an IB that is not a slogan it is a reality thank you

a reality thank you

a reality thank you [Applause]

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