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How Listening Can Save a Life | Julius Boatwright | TEDxPittsburgh


our mental health system is broken as a

our mental health system is broken as a licensed social worker and a therapist

licensed social worker and a therapist

licensed social worker and a therapist I’ll be the first to admit it

I’ll be the first to admit it

I’ll be the first to admit it I used to go into families homes

I used to go into families homes

I used to go into families homes thinking that I was going to help them

thinking that I was going to help them

thinking that I was going to help them Hill only to find out that we were

Hill only to find out that we were

Hill only to find out that we were putting band-aids on two broken bones

putting band-aids on two broken bones

putting band-aids on two broken bones I’ve stood in hospital rooms helplessly

I’ve stood in hospital rooms helplessly

I’ve stood in hospital rooms helplessly looking at newborn babies in incubators

looking at newborn babies in incubators

looking at newborn babies in incubators who are addicted to heroin because their

who are addicted to heroin because their

who are addicted to heroin because their parents didn’t have the support they

parents didn’t have the support they

parents didn’t have the support they needed to deal with addiction I’ve even

needed to deal with addiction I’ve even

needed to deal with addiction I’ve even sat at kitchen tables with moms crying

sat at kitchen tables with moms crying

sat at kitchen tables with moms crying as their son was being hauled off to a

as their son was being hauled off to a

as their son was being hauled off to a juvenile detention center due to

juvenile detention center due to

juvenile detention center due to behaviors that were the result of

behaviors that were the result of

behaviors that were the result of unaddressed mental health challenges

unaddressed mental health challenges

unaddressed mental health challenges I’ve stood in the middle of a violent

I’ve stood in the middle of a violent

I’ve stood in the middle of a violent domestic dispute between a husband and

domestic dispute between a husband and

domestic dispute between a husband and wife because they didn’t have the skills

wife because they didn’t have the skills

wife because they didn’t have the skills or confidence needed to deescalate their

or confidence needed to deescalate their

or confidence needed to deescalate their crisis I lost my best friend from

crisis I lost my best friend from

crisis I lost my best friend from college to mental illness by way of

college to mental illness by way of

college to mental illness by way of suicide I’ve attempted suicide multiple

suicide I’ve attempted suicide multiple

suicide I’ve attempted suicide multiple times and since I was about 14 years old

times and since I was about 14 years old

times and since I was about 14 years old I’ve struggled with symptoms related to

I’ve struggled with symptoms related to

I’ve struggled with symptoms related to anxiety and depression now all of these

anxiety and depression now all of these

anxiety and depression now all of these instances have one thing in common they

instances have one thing in common they

instances have one thing in common they weren’t addressed until after a crisis

weren’t addressed until after a crisis

weren’t addressed until after a crisis so about a year and a half ago I asked

so about a year and a half ago I asked

so about a year and a half ago I asked myself one question

myself one question

myself one question what are you going to do about it that’s

what are you going to do about it that’s

what are you going to do about it that’s when I had my moment of awakening so one

when I had my moment of awakening so one

when I had my moment of awakening so one day after a session with the family I

day after a session with the family I

day after a session with the family I decided to drive my car into one of our

decided to drive my car into one of our

decided to drive my car into one of our most cherished and loved communities for

most cherished and loved communities for

most cherished and loved communities for african-americans here in Pittsburgh the

african-americans here in Pittsburgh the

african-americans here in Pittsburgh the hill district and as I’m driving there I

hill district and as I’m driving there I

hill district and as I’m driving there I said the first person you see have a

said the first person you see have a

said the first person you see have a conversation with them about mental

conversation with them about mental

conversation with them about mental health no agenda no outcomes no budget

health no agenda no outcomes no budget

health no agenda no outcomes no budget just find somebody to listen to and as I

just find somebody to listen to and as I

just find somebody to listen to and as I pull up to park I see two ladies sitting

pull up to park I see two ladies sitting

pull up to park I see two ladies sitting on their front porch in something in my

on their front porch in something in my

on their front porch in something in my soul said that’s who you need to speak

soul said that’s who you need to speak

soul said that’s who you need to speak with at this very moment so I built up

with at this very moment so I built up

with at this very moment so I built up enough courage to walk toward the and as

enough courage to walk toward the and as

enough courage to walk toward the and as I approached both of them one of the

I approached both of them one of the

I approached both of them one of the ladies jumps up and immediately runs

ladies jumps up and immediately runs

ladies jumps up and immediately runs into her house the other woman decided

into her house the other woman decided

into her house the other woman decided to stay in her seat and I think God for

to stay in her seat and I think God for

to stay in her seat and I think God for that so I walk up to her and I stuttered

that so I walk up to her and I stuttered

that so I walk up to her and I stuttered and I said excuse me ma’am

and I said excuse me ma’am

and I said excuse me ma’am my name is Julius I lost my best friend

my name is Julius I lost my best friend

my name is Julius I lost my best friend from college to mental illness I have

from college to mental illness I have

from college to mental illness I have attempted suicide multiple times and as

attempted suicide multiple times and as

attempted suicide multiple times and as a therapist I know I’m part of a broken

a therapist I know I’m part of a broken

a therapist I know I’m part of a broken system I’m looking for somebody anybody

system I’m looking for somebody anybody

system I’m looking for somebody anybody in our community to tell me how they

in our community to tell me how they

in our community to tell me how they overcome mental health challenges do you

overcome mental health challenges do you

overcome mental health challenges do you know anyone who’d be willing to share

know anyone who’d be willing to share

know anyone who’d be willing to share their story because I just want to

their story because I just want to

their story because I just want to listen she leans back opens the screen

listen she leans back opens the screen

listen she leans back opens the screen door and yells inside Stacey you need to

door and yells inside Stacey you need to

door and yells inside Stacey you need to come out here and talk with this man

come out here and talk with this man

come out here and talk with this man right now

Stacy comes back to the door I give her

Stacy comes back to the door I give her my schpeel

my schpeel

my schpeel and she invites a complete stranger into

and she invites a complete stranger into

and she invites a complete stranger into her house

her house

her house I listen as Stacy shared stories about

I listen as Stacy shared stories about

I listen as Stacy shared stories about PTSD depression and anxiety

PTSD depression and anxiety

PTSD depression and anxiety I listen as Stacy shared stories about

I listen as Stacy shared stories about

I listen as Stacy shared stories about treatment resources and supports I even

treatment resources and supports I even

treatment resources and supports I even listened as Stacy shared stories about

listened as Stacy shared stories about

listened as Stacy shared stories about faith family and friends at the end of

faith family and friends at the end of

faith family and friends at the end of our conversation I gave her 20 bucks I

our conversation I gave her 20 bucks I

our conversation I gave her 20 bucks I left my phone number and we took a

left my phone number and we took a

left my phone number and we took a picture together now at the time I had

picture together now at the time I had

picture together now at the time I had no idea but that was the birth of our

no idea but that was the birth of our

no idea but that was the birth of our grassroots culturally competent in human

grassroots culturally competent in human

grassroots culturally competent in human centered mental health service efforts

centered mental health service efforts

centered mental health service efforts in the community over the next year we

in the community over the next year we

in the community over the next year we were blessed with the privilege of

were blessed with the privilege of

were blessed with the privilege of hearing some of the most traumatic and

hearing some of the most traumatic and

hearing some of the most traumatic and triumphant stories ever people would

triumphant stories ever people would

triumphant stories ever people would often ask how do you get community

often ask how do you get community

often ask how do you get community members to tell you their deepest and

members to tell you their deepest and

members to tell you their deepest and darkest secrets I would always try to

darkest secrets I would always try to

darkest secrets I would always try to come up with some therapeutic spiritual

come up with some therapeutic spiritual

come up with some therapeutic spiritual or even scientific explanation but the

or even scientific explanation but the

or even scientific explanation but the only thing I could think to say was we

only thing I could think to say was we

only thing I could think to say was we listen people didn’t like that response

listen people didn’t like that response

listen people didn’t like that response so I’d give it some more thought and the

so I’d give it some more thought and the

so I’d give it some more thought and the only thing I could think to say was we

only thing I could think to say was we

only thing I could think to say was we listen and they say of course you listen

listen and they say of course you listen

listen and they say of course you listen we listen to people every single day

we listen to people every single day

we listen to people every single day but they don’t bare their souls with us

but they don’t bare their souls with us

but they don’t bare their souls with us so there has to be something that you do

so there has to be something that you do

so there has to be something that you do what is it so after doing a little more

what is it so after doing a little more

what is it so after doing a little more research and reflecting here’s what we

research and reflecting here’s what we

research and reflecting here’s what we were able to come up with we don’t go

were able to come up with we don’t go

were able to come up with we don’t go into anyone’s community with the intent

into anyone’s community with the intent

into anyone’s community with the intent to diagnose assess or prescribe we don’t

to diagnose assess or prescribe we don’t

to diagnose assess or prescribe we don’t come in as a clinician who’s looking to

come in as a clinician who’s looking to

come in as a clinician who’s looking to fix a client we enter as a broken human

fix a client we enter as a broken human

fix a client we enter as a broken human being who’s looking to connect and begin

being who’s looking to connect and begin

being who’s looking to connect and begin our healing process together with

our healing process together with

our healing process together with another broken human being we meet

another broken human being we meet

another broken human being we meet people exactly where they are whether

people exactly where they are whether

people exactly where they are whether it’s a barber shop a liquor store or a

it’s a barber shop a liquor store or a

it’s a barber shop a liquor store or a church we want our community members to

church we want our community members to

church we want our community members to know that we value and deeply appreciate

know that we value and deeply appreciate

know that we value and deeply appreciate their surroundings so if someone feels

their surroundings so if someone feels

their surroundings so if someone feels most comfortable in a specific setting

most comfortable in a specific setting

most comfortable in a specific setting then that’s where we are with them we

then that’s where we are with them we

then that’s where we are with them we don’t judge and we acknowledge

don’t judge and we acknowledge

don’t judge and we acknowledge everything we know that all of us are

everything we know that all of us are

everything we know that all of us are carrying the weight of our guilt our

carrying the weight of our guilt our

carrying the weight of our guilt our shame and our wrongdoings it’s not our

shame and our wrongdoings it’s not our

shame and our wrongdoings it’s not our responsibility to highlight that our

responsibility to highlight that our

responsibility to highlight that our purpose is to nurture a space that

purpose is to nurture a space that

purpose is to nurture a space that promotes authenticity and acceptance

promotes authenticity and acceptance

promotes authenticity and acceptance that’s what we mean when we say we just

that’s what we mean when we say we just

that’s what we mean when we say we just listen after one conversation the

listen after one conversation the

listen after one conversation the community a gentleman asked me why did

community a gentleman asked me why did

community a gentleman asked me why did you stop and talk

you stop and talk

you stop and talk with me again I found myself trying to

with me again I found myself trying to

with me again I found myself trying to come up with some in-depth explanation

come up with some in-depth explanation

come up with some in-depth explanation but the only thing I could think to say

but the only thing I could think to say

but the only thing I could think to say was sir I don’t know his answer blew my

was sir I don’t know his answer blew my

was sir I don’t know his answer blew my mind he said I know why it’s because

mind he said I know why it’s because

mind he said I know why it’s because you’re an angel and you were sent to

you’re an angel and you were sent to

you’re an angel and you were sent to listen to me he added I’m a war vet and

listen to me he added I’m a war vet and

listen to me he added I’m a war vet and I’ve been struggling with PTSD for

I’ve been struggling with PTSD for

I’ve been struggling with PTSD for almost 30 years there are youth in our

almost 30 years there are youth in our

almost 30 years there are youth in our community who tease me not because

community who tease me not because

community who tease me not because they’re malicious but because they don’t

they’re malicious but because they don’t

they’re malicious but because they don’t understand what I’m coping with so today

understand what I’m coping with so today

understand what I’m coping with so today I was going to do one of two things I

I was going to do one of two things I

I was going to do one of two things I was either going to hurt myself or

was either going to hurt myself or

was either going to hurt myself or someone else but you came along and you

someone else but you came along and you

someone else but you came along and you listened and I don’t want to do that

listened and I don’t want to do that

listened and I don’t want to do that anymore so I’ll leave us with this if we

anymore so I’ll leave us with this if we

anymore so I’ll leave us with this if we ever find ourselves feeling like our joy

ever find ourselves feeling like our joy

ever find ourselves feeling like our joy our pain and our well-being

our pain and our well-being

our pain and our well-being doesn’t matter to those around us please

doesn’t matter to those around us please

doesn’t matter to those around us please know that we’re loved valued and

know that we’re loved valued and

know that we’re loved valued and appreciated if we ever find ourselves

appreciated if we ever find ourselves

appreciated if we ever find ourselves filling overwhelmed unwanted or unheard

filling overwhelmed unwanted or unheard

filling overwhelmed unwanted or unheard please know that there’s someone who’s

please know that there’s someone who’s

please know that there’s someone who’s willing able and qualified who wants to

willing able and qualified who wants to

willing able and qualified who wants to listen and if we ever find ourselves

listen and if we ever find ourselves

listen and if we ever find ourselves asking the question

asking the question

asking the question how can we possibly save someone’s life

how can we possibly save someone’s life

how can we possibly save someone’s life please know that it starts with us just

please know that it starts with us just

please know that it starts with us just listening thank you

listening thank you

listening thank you [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] [Music]

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