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how do we perform digital technologies

how do we perform digital technologies and how do digital technology to perform

and how do digital technology to perform

and how do digital technology to perform us another way to ask this question is

us another way to ask this question is

us another way to ask this question is what are the physical and behavioral

what are the physical and behavioral

what are the physical and behavioral symptoms of digital technologies present

symptoms of digital technologies present

symptoms of digital technologies present within our everyday lives

within our everyday lives

within our everyday lives to think about this I want to talk about

to think about this I want to talk about

to think about this I want to talk about one thing which is your phone you’ve

one thing which is your phone you’ve

one thing which is your phone you’ve heard it all night but ask yourself can

heard it all night but ask yourself can

heard it all night but ask yourself can you count how many times you’ve checked

you count how many times you’ve checked

you count how many times you’ve checked your phone since you’ve entered this

your phone since you’ve entered this

your phone since you’ve entered this building right um during talks do you

building right um during talks do you

building right um during talks do you feel the need to look at your phone even

feel the need to look at your phone even

feel the need to look at your phone even if you don’t do it no and asking these

if you don’t do it no and asking these

if you don’t do it no and asking these two simple questions

two simple questions

two simple questions how has your physical and affective

how has your physical and affective

how has your physical and affective state changed just by thinking about it

state changed just by thinking about it

state changed just by thinking about it my name again is Jessica Rico and I’m a

my name again is Jessica Rico and I’m a

my name again is Jessica Rico and I’m a professor in the school of film dance

professor in the school of film dance

professor in the school of film dance and theatre my background is in dance

and theatre my background is in dance

and theatre my background is in dance and somatic practices and given this you

and somatic practices and given this you

and somatic practices and given this you may be wondering why I’m asking you

may be wondering why I’m asking you

may be wondering why I’m asking you about your phone it’s real right but the

about your phone it’s real right but the

about your phone it’s real right but the reason is is because I am very

reason is is because I am very

reason is is because I am very interested in and concerned with how we

interested in and concerned with how we

interested in and concerned with how we physically engage in our everyday world

physically engage in our everyday world

physically engage in our everyday world I’m also really interested in our

I’m also really interested in our

I’m also really interested in our conscious awareness of how we do that

conscious awareness of how we do that

conscious awareness of how we do that physically I just so happened to take

physically I just so happened to take

physically I just so happened to take those practices and put them into

those practices and put them into

those practices and put them into thinking about the usage and making of

thinking about the usage and making of

thinking about the usage and making of technologies now this gives you kind of

technologies now this gives you kind of

technologies now this gives you kind of a picture of what I do but in like true

a picture of what I do but in like true

a picture of what I do but in like true Ted fashion I gave myself a really

Ted fashion I gave myself a really

Ted fashion I gave myself a really cheesy title just for this talk and so

cheesy title just for this talk and so

cheesy title just for this talk and so here it is I am a compassionate

here it is I am a compassionate

here it is I am a compassionate kinesthetic disrupter of digital

so downward from the bird passionate

so downward from the bird passionate other people’s distress feeling their

other people’s distress feeling their

other people’s distress feeling their struggled as if they were my own in

struggled as if they were my own in

struggled as if they were my own in other words I empathize with people

other words I empathize with people

other words I empathize with people the other one is kinesthetic meaning

the other one is kinesthetic meaning

the other one is kinesthetic meaning that I engage in physical f2 big

that I engage in physical f2 big

that I engage in physical f2 big physical embodied bodily consciousness

physical embodied bodily consciousness

physical embodied bodily consciousness connecting my consciousness to my

connecting my consciousness to my

connecting my consciousness to my physical sense of self

physical sense of self

physical sense of self the last one is dis ruptor hmm I aim to

the last one is dis ruptor hmm I aim to

the last one is dis ruptor hmm I aim to interrupt your break apart

interrupt your break apart

interrupt your break apart infrastructures and processes as I see

infrastructures and processes as I see

infrastructures and processes as I see meeting radical change and it just so

meeting radical change and it just so

meeting radical change and it just so happened that one of those faces that I

happened that one of those faces that I

happened that one of those faces that I really see meeting radical change is our

really see meeting radical change is our

really see meeting radical change is our relationship with our consumer digital

relationship with our consumer digital

relationship with our consumer digital technologies why is this though it’s a

technologies why is this though it’s a

technologies why is this though it’s a really great question and then to answer

really great question and then to answer

really great question and then to answer that I brought on three people to

that I brought on three people to

that I brought on three people to explain data that’s a really good

explain data that’s a really good

explain data that’s a really good question right it’s a question I feel

question right it’s a question I feel

question right it’s a question I feel like I should be able to answer I mean I

like I should be able to answer I mean I

like I should be able to answer I mean I think about this stuff all the time for

think about this stuff all the time for

think about this stuff all the time for example in the short relationship I had

example in the short relationship I had

example in the short relationship I had with my fitness tracker I found in an

with my fitness tracker I found in an

with my fitness tracker I found in an attempt to meet my daily goals that I

attempt to meet my daily goals that I

attempt to meet my daily goals that I became a sort of data prisoner I would

became a sort of data prisoner I would

became a sort of data prisoner I would pace around the house late at night in a

pace around the house late at night in a

pace around the house late at night in a sad attempt to get to those 10,000 steps

sad attempt to get to those 10,000 steps

sad attempt to get to those 10,000 steps and I only ever met that goal once I

and I only ever met that goal once I

and I only ever met that goal once I have similar issues with my phone in

have similar issues with my phone in

have similar issues with my phone in general I’ll pick it up at the first

general I’ll pick it up at the first

general I’ll pick it up at the first hint of boredom throughout the day

hint of boredom throughout the day

hint of boredom throughout the day according to this self tracking app I

according to this self tracking app I

according to this self tracking app I have on my phone called moment I check

have on my phone called moment I check

have on my phone called moment I check my phone 70 times a day that means on

my phone 70 times a day that means on

my phone 70 times a day that means on average I’m spending about 2 hours and

average I’m spending about 2 hours and

average I’m spending about 2 hours and 43 minutes just staring at my phone now

43 minutes just staring at my phone now

43 minutes just staring at my phone now I know I don’t need to check things like

I know I don’t need to check things like

I know I don’t need to check things like Facebook that often but still I do and

Facebook that often but still I do and

Facebook that often but still I do and this moment app is supposed to help me

this moment app is supposed to help me

this moment app is supposed to help me take some conscious steps to limit my

take some conscious steps to limit my

take some conscious steps to limit my digital interactions but mostly it makes

digital interactions but mostly it makes

digital interactions but mostly it makes me feel super self-conscious so what’s

me feel super self-conscious so what’s

me feel super self-conscious so what’s the point now I have another app to tell

the point now I have another app to tell

the point now I have another app to tell me things I already know and still my

me things I already know and still my

me things I already know and still my behavior hasn’t changed what is data

behavior hasn’t changed what is data

behavior hasn’t changed what is data doing to me everybody this is at least

doing to me everybody this is at least

doing to me everybody this is at least a cliff juan Rodriguez and Laci Garcia

a cliff juan Rodriguez and Laci Garcia

a cliff juan Rodriguez and Laci Garcia three of the 14 artists I worked with on

three of the 14 artists I worked with on

three of the 14 artists I worked with on an evening leg performance work titled

an evening leg performance work titled

an evening leg performance work titled be my quantified self and I in this work

be my quantified self and I in this work

be my quantified self and I in this work we explored the physical symptom in our

we explored the physical symptom in our

we explored the physical symptom in our everyday life we told stories through

everyday life we told stories through

everyday life we told stories through movement and words many of the stories

movement and words many of the stories

movement and words many of the stories coming from the dancers themselves like

coming from the dancers themselves like

coming from the dancers themselves like the one you just heard from ELISA and

the one you just heard from ELISA and

the one you just heard from ELISA and you may hear some some things that are

you may hear some some things that are

you may hear some some things that are familiar to you in this and I don’t know

familiar to you in this and I don’t know

familiar to you in this and I don’t know if everyone got one but you may have

if everyone got one but you may have

if everyone got one but you may have gotten a piece of paper that had a

gotten a piece of paper that had a

gotten a piece of paper that had a phrase on it yeah that had a big blank

phrase on it yeah that had a big blank

phrase on it yeah that had a big blank spot to put a word if you want to join

spot to put a word if you want to join

spot to put a word if you want to join us in this next part I thought we could

us in this next part I thought we could

us in this next part I thought we could do it together optional of course but

do it together optional of course but

do it together optional of course but we’re going to do a demo version just so

we’re going to do a demo version just so

we’re going to do a demo version just so you get a sense of how we’re going to do

you get a sense of how we’re going to do

you get a sense of how we’re going to do this okay so you have a everybody has a

this okay so you have a everybody has a

this okay so you have a everybody has a different phrase and we have three of

different phrase and we have three of

different phrase and we have three of them in total spread throughout the

them in total spread throughout the

them in total spread throughout the audience we’re going to demo what to do

audience we’re going to demo what to do

audience we’re going to demo what to do with Netflix hmm yes i watch netflix

with Netflix hmm yes i watch netflix

with Netflix hmm yes i watch netflix about one hour a day so as you heard us

about one hour a day so as you heard us

about one hour a day so as you heard us come together you can do the same the

come together you can do the same the

come together you can do the same the next one we’re going to do is go to

next one we’re going to do is go to

next one we’re going to do is go to Facebook yeah on Facebook I spend about

Facebook yeah on Facebook I spend about

Facebook yeah on Facebook I spend about 40 minutes a day I see some in there

40 minutes a day I see some in there

40 minutes a day I see some in there yeah just so you know the average user

yeah just so you know the average user

yeah just so you know the average user according to Facebook spends a few

according to Facebook spends a few

according to Facebook spends a few minutes a day on this on the site okay

minutes a day on this on the site okay

minutes a day on this on the site okay this one look at a screen about six

this one look at a screen about six

this one look at a screen about six hours a day all right according to the

hours a day all right according to the

hours a day all right according to the 2016 Nielsen Company audience report the

2016 Nielsen Company audience report the

2016 Nielsen Company audience report the average adult US citizens spends about

average adult US citizens spends about

average adult US citizens spends about 10 hours and 39 minutes looking at a

10 hours and 39 minutes looking at a

10 hours and 39 minutes looking at a screen consuming media each day yes and

screen consuming media each day yes and

screen consuming media each day yes and it’s going up last one

it’s going up last one

it’s going up last one I sit about five hours a day

I sit about five hours a day

I sit about five hours a day any sitters in there yeah the average US

any sitters in there yeah the average US

any sitters in there yeah the average US office worker spends about 10 hours a

office worker spends about 10 hours a

office worker spends about 10 hours a day sitting just sitting

we see these numbers and maybe we’re

we see these numbers and maybe we’re surprised or maybe we’ve heard them

surprised or maybe we’ve heard them

surprised or maybe we’ve heard them before but have you ever been asked to

before but have you ever been asked to

before but have you ever been asked to write them down for yourself and look at

write them down for yourself and look at

write them down for yourself and look at your own numbers hold them in your hand

your own numbers hold them in your hand

your own numbers hold them in your hand so you can look at them and they can

so you can look at them and they can

so you can look at them and they can look back at you right what do we want

look back at you right what do we want

look back at you right what do we want from our digital technologies what do we

from our digital technologies what do we

from our digital technologies what do we want from our quality of life with these

want from our quality of life with these

want from our quality of life with these types of technologies many of us go

types of technologies many of us go

types of technologies many of us go through lies we sit stand walk eat top

through lies we sit stand walk eat top

through lies we sit stand walk eat top hang out with people without actually

hang out with people without actually

hang out with people without actually being aware of our physical sensing body

being aware of our physical sensing body

being aware of our physical sensing body through these processes and somatic

through these processes and somatic

through these processes and somatic practices we call this somatic amnesia

practices we call this somatic amnesia

practices we call this somatic amnesia what it means is we are so habituated

what it means is we are so habituated

what it means is we are so habituated our own body that we can physically

our own body that we can physically

our own body that we can physically engage in our world without being

engage in our world without being

engage in our world without being consciously aware of how that feels

consciously aware of how that feels

consciously aware of how that feels in our own body we are literally

in our own body we are literally

in our own body we are literally practicing our bodies out of our way of

practicing our bodies out of our way of

practicing our bodies out of our way of being in the world

we are literally practicing our bodies

we are literally practicing our bodies out of our way of being in the world

to make this more palpable I want you to

to make this more palpable I want you to go ahead and close your eyes don’t do

go ahead and close your eyes don’t do

go ahead and close your eyes don’t do anything but just close your eyes and

anything but just close your eyes and

anything but just close your eyes and I’m just going to say some things to

I’m just going to say some things to

I’m just going to say some things to take you through consciousness of your

take you through consciousness of your

take you through consciousness of your own body connect first to your breathing

own body connect first to your breathing

own body connect first to your breathing with your eyes closed where do you feel

with your eyes closed where do you feel

with your eyes closed where do you feel it is it up towards the neck is it in

it is it up towards the neck is it in

it is it up towards the neck is it in the ribs or down at the belly how deep

the ribs or down at the belly how deep

the ribs or down at the belly how deep is it do you have to increase your

is it do you have to increase your

is it do you have to increase your breath just to feel it inside yourself

breath just to feel it inside yourself

breath just to feel it inside yourself this involuntary action we have to do

this involuntary action we have to do

this involuntary action we have to do every day bringing your awareness to the

every day bringing your awareness to the

every day bringing your awareness to the outside surface of your body I want you

outside surface of your body I want you

outside surface of your body I want you to pay attention to how you’re sitting

to pay attention to how you’re sitting

to pay attention to how you’re sitting in your seat take note of where you feel

in your seat take note of where you feel

in your seat take note of where you feel pressure where it feels more or less

pressure where it feels more or less

pressure where it feels more or less maybe where muscle is is a little less

maybe where muscle is is a little less

maybe where muscle is is a little less maybe where bones are like those sits

maybe where bones are like those sits

maybe where bones are like those sits bones we sit on is a little bit more you

bones we sit on is a little bit more you

bones we sit on is a little bit more you might even know if you’re tilting side

might even know if you’re tilting side

might even know if you’re tilting side to side one side to another just by the

to side one side to another just by the

to side one side to another just by the pressure you feel in the back of your

pressure you feel in the back of your

pressure you feel in the back of your legs maybe one leg isn’t even touching

legs maybe one leg isn’t even touching

legs maybe one leg isn’t even touching because your legs are crossed

because your legs are crossed

because your legs are crossed going back internally into the body feel

going back internally into the body feel

going back internally into the body feel where you’re holding muscular tension

where you’re holding muscular tension

where you’re holding muscular tension don’t change it

don’t change it

don’t change it but just ask yourself recognizing your

but just ask yourself recognizing your

but just ask yourself recognizing your own bodily intelligence if you did some

own bodily intelligence if you did some

own bodily intelligence if you did some simple thing how could this position

simple thing how could this position

simple thing how could this position feel better what could you do this act

feel better what could you do this act

feel better what could you do this act of sitting go ahead and open your eyes

you

you [Music]

[Music]

[Music] you

so this is a solo that Lacey Garcia and

so this is a solo that Lacey Garcia and I co-created as part of my quantified

I co-created as part of my quantified

I co-created as part of my quantified self and I and in the practice of making

self and I and in the practice of making

self and I and in the practice of making this work we were thinking about if we

this work we were thinking about if we

this work we were thinking about if we listen to our bodies what would it say

listen to our bodies what would it say

listen to our bodies what would it say to us when we’re working with

to us when we’re working with

to us when we’re working with technologies we wrap our bodies in these

technologies we wrap our bodies in these

technologies we wrap our bodies in these strange positions in order to stare at a

strange positions in order to stare at a

strange positions in order to stare at a screen or our phones oftentimes twisting

screen or our phones oftentimes twisting

screen or our phones oftentimes twisting ourselves in these strange places not

ourselves in these strange places not

ourselves in these strange places not really even recognizing that our body is

really even recognizing that our body is

really even recognizing that our body is seeking out into the world feeling and

seeking out into the world feeling and

seeking out into the world feeling and sensing which it is always doing until

sensing which it is always doing until

sensing which it is always doing until we maybe stand up and move again

we maybe stand up and move again

we maybe stand up and move again maybe you would like a good stretch or a

maybe you would like a good stretch or a

maybe you would like a good stretch or a sigh or even throwing our brow maybe

sigh or even throwing our brow maybe

sigh or even throwing our brow maybe even a little hint of frustration by the

even a little hint of frustration by the

even a little hint of frustration by the fact that our body just can’t quite

fact that our body just can’t quite

fact that our body just can’t quite conform to the ongoing practice of

conform to the ongoing practice of

conform to the ongoing practice of sitting still like I said we are

sitting still like I said we are

sitting still like I said we are literally practicing our bodies out of

literally practicing our bodies out of

literally practicing our bodies out of our way of being in the world or to go

our way of being in the world or to go

our way of being in the world or to go back to one of my earlier questions we

back to one of my earlier questions we

back to one of my earlier questions we could say yes that digital technologies

could say yes that digital technologies

could say yes that digital technologies are performing us and in this

are performing us and in this

are performing us and in this performance our bodies are really no

performance our bodies are really no

performance our bodies are really no longer really needed I want to show you

longer really needed I want to show you

longer really needed I want to show you an image this image comes from Donna

an image this image comes from Donna

an image this image comes from Donna Sullivan and Tom igoe’s book on physical

Sullivan and Tom igoe’s book on physical

Sullivan and Tom igoe’s book on physical computing and it was made to imagine how

computing and it was made to imagine how

computing and it was made to imagine how computers would see us based on the way

computers would see us based on the way

computers would see us based on the way we use them right one eye to ears in a

we use them right one eye to ears in a

we use them right one eye to ears in a digit that is what we are to most of our

digit that is what we are to most of our

digit that is what we are to most of our consumer devices so if this is how

consumer devices so if this is how

consumer devices so if this is how computers see us they don’t see us as

computers see us they don’t see us as

computers see us they don’t see us as human beings who can skip walk run or

human beings who can skip walk run or

human beings who can skip walk run or dance they see this as an assemblage of

dance they see this as an assemblage of

dance they see this as an assemblage of three body parts so what are we doing to

three body parts so what are we doing to

three body parts so what are we doing to change this a lot of things that I’m

change this a lot of things that I’m

change this a lot of things that I’m doing is considering this idea of play

doing is considering this idea of play

doing is considering this idea of play right when we hear the word play we

right when we hear the word play we

right when we hear the word play we think of children because they’re so

think of children because they’re so

think of children because they’re so stinking good at it right really good

stinking good at it right really good

stinking good at it right really good they are masters of like moving through

they are masters of like moving through

they are masters of like moving through their world and being aware of what

their world and being aware of what

their world and being aware of what they’re doing

they’re doing

they’re doing right they are very aware of how their

right they are very aware of how their

right they are very aware of how their bodies are moving in space and how

bodies are moving in space and how

bodies are moving in space and how they’re learning from them it’s just so

they’re learning from them it’s just so

they’re learning from them it’s just so happens that as we turn into adults

happens that as we turn into adults

happens that as we turn into adults these sort of repertoire that is

these sort of repertoire that is

these sort of repertoire that is acceptable has shrunk and it means that

acceptable has shrunk and it means that

acceptable has shrunk and it means that learning is oftentimes denoted passively

learning is oftentimes denoted passively

learning is oftentimes denoted passively and an active mind not if you’re a

and an active mind not if you’re a

and an active mind not if you’re a dancer though I hate to tell you we have

dancer though I hate to tell you we have

dancer though I hate to tell you we have all the fun as dancers we are just it

all the fun as dancers we are just it

all the fun as dancers we are just it this is our lifeblood is movement we are

this is our lifeblood is movement we are

this is our lifeblood is movement we are constantly in the ongoing sophisticated

constantly in the ongoing sophisticated

constantly in the ongoing sophisticated practice of learning through our own

practice of learning through our own

practice of learning through our own physical experience a lot of times we

physical experience a lot of times we

physical experience a lot of times we call this movement improvisation but for

call this movement improvisation but for

call this movement improvisation but for the sake of today let’s call it critical

the sake of today let’s call it critical

the sake of today let’s call it critical play not frivolous play that’s just sort

play not frivolous play that’s just sort

play not frivolous play that’s just sort of open-ended without any sort of

of open-ended without any sort of

of open-ended without any sort of intention but free and open play that is

intention but free and open play that is

intention but free and open play that is guided by the idea that we can learn

guided by the idea that we can learn

guided by the idea that we can learn something from that this is what we do

something from that this is what we do

something from that this is what we do and it’s something that as I went into

and it’s something that as I went into

and it’s something that as I went into grad school has started to get into

grad school has started to get into

grad school has started to get into human-computer interaction design spaces

human-computer interaction design spaces

human-computer interaction design spaces I realize could be really really useful

I realize could be really really useful

I realize could be really really useful in such spaces and this was really

in such spaces and this was really

in such spaces and this was really reaffirmed for me when I read Phoebe

reaffirmed for me when I read Phoebe

reaffirmed for me when I read Phoebe singers a chapter on an engineering of

singers a chapter on an engineering of

singers a chapter on an engineering of experience and in this chapter she talks

experience and in this chapter she talks

experience and in this chapter she talks about Frederick Taylor’s work during the

about Frederick Taylor’s work during the

about Frederick Taylor’s work during the Industrial Revolution right making

Industrial Revolution right making

Industrial Revolution right making movement efficient and engineering our

movement efficient and engineering our

movement efficient and engineering our physical experience to cut out all the

physical experience to cut out all the

physical experience to cut out all the excess stuff cut it out so that we can

excess stuff cut it out so that we can

excess stuff cut it out so that we can do the work that we need to do in

do the work that we need to do in

do the work that we need to do in factories but the interesting thing is

factories but the interesting thing is

factories but the interesting thing is if you look at our contemporary

if you look at our contemporary

if you look at our contemporary environment hasn’t changed much even

environment hasn’t changed much even

environment hasn’t changed much even though we’re no longer working in

though we’re no longer working in

though we’re no longer working in factories we are still using efficiency

factories we are still using efficiency

factories we are still using efficiency with our devices and our engineered

with our devices and our engineered

with our devices and our engineered experience and our engineered world as a

experience and our engineered world as a

experience and our engineered world as a major metric that we use to define what

major metric that we use to define what

major metric that we use to define what is good what she argues and I would I

is good what she argues and I would I

is good what she argues and I would I would agree with is that maybe we should

would agree with is that maybe we should

would agree with is that maybe we should forego efficiency for a little while and

forego efficiency for a little while and

forego efficiency for a little while and think about things like fun play

think about things like fun play

think about things like fun play movement physicality so how I’m doing

movement physicality so how I’m doing

movement physicality so how I’m doing this is I started to look at things like

this is I started to look at things like

this is I started to look at things like this is my lab this is a very large arts

this is my lab this is a very large arts

this is my lab this is a very large arts festival family-friendly and what you’re

festival family-friendly and what you’re

festival family-friendly and what you’re seeing in here are interactive

seeing in here are interactive

seeing in here are interactive sculptures that we’ve made they resonate

sculptures that we’ve made they resonate

sculptures that we’ve made they resonate or vibrate in real-time with people’s

or vibrate in real-time with people’s

or vibrate in real-time with people’s personal data output meaning that when

personal data output meaning that when

personal data output meaning that when people lay roll hang

people lay roll hang

people lay roll hang out on these sculptures and they play on

out on these sculptures and they play on

out on these sculptures and they play on their phones they can actually feel

their phones they can actually feel

their phones they can actually feel their mobile phone device output in real

their mobile phone device output in real

their mobile phone device output in real time we call it data ship so what does

time we call it data ship so what does

time we call it data ship so what does it mean to think of this as our lab not

it mean to think of this as our lab not

it mean to think of this as our lab not just our academic setting this is our

just our academic setting this is our

just our academic setting this is our iterative process these is our

iterative process these is our

iterative process these is our colleagues doing things like this and

colleagues doing things like this and

colleagues doing things like this and this and this and this so asking other

this and this and this so asking other

this and this and this so asking other people to participate in fun things is

people to participate in fun things is

people to participate in fun things is not really that but what if we ask

not really that but what if we ask

not really that but what if we ask designers to dance to play yeah as part

designers to dance to play yeah as part

designers to dance to play yeah as part of their process is a requirement as

of their process is a requirement as

of their process is a requirement as part of their process so one thing I did

part of their process so one thing I did

part of their process so one thing I did is I made a rapid rote prototype

is I made a rapid rote prototype

is I made a rapid rote prototype wearable technology band where you could

wearable technology band where you could

wearable technology band where you could snap in a bunch of different sensors and

snap in a bunch of different sensors and

snap in a bunch of different sensors and feedback modules meaning that when I

feedback modules meaning that when I

feedback modules meaning that when I teach designers I asked them to move

teach designers I asked them to move

teach designers I asked them to move first into play first before they ever

first into play first before they ever

first into play first before they ever sit down and start to design those

sit down and start to design those

sit down and start to design those technologies so they have to start

technologies so they have to start

technologies so they have to start through action through play here’s some

through action through play here’s some

through action through play here’s some other examples and here’s with people

other examples and here’s with people

other examples and here’s with people who never danced where they started

who never danced where they started

who never danced where they started thinking about the body different places

thinking about the body different places

thinking about the body different places and we typically do right so this is

and we typically do right so this is

and we typically do right so this is some of the work that I do just two

some of the work that I do just two

some of the work that I do just two quick examples of my work as a

quick examples of my work as a

quick examples of my work as a compassionate kinesthetic disrupter I’m

compassionate kinesthetic disrupter I’m

compassionate kinesthetic disrupter I’m compassionate about the difficulty of

compassionate about the difficulty of

compassionate about the difficulty of working with bodies it’s not easy as a

working with bodies it’s not easy as a

working with bodies it’s not easy as a designer but I’m also compassionate

designer but I’m also compassionate

designer but I’m also compassionate about the idea that we might want more

about the idea that we might want more

about the idea that we might want more from our technologies than what we get

from our technologies than what we get

from our technologies than what we get right now I’m kinesthetic I come at

right now I’m kinesthetic I come at

right now I’m kinesthetic I come at things physically first tactic first I’m

things physically first tactic first I’m

things physically first tactic first I’m a tangible human being I like tangible

a tangible human being I like tangible

a tangible human being I like tangible things and I’m a disrupter because I

things and I’m a disrupter because I

things and I’m a disrupter because I think we need radical change in these

think we need radical change in these

think we need radical change in these spaces because if we want our

spaces because if we want our

spaces because if we want our interactions with technology to look

interactions with technology to look

interactions with technology to look like something more than this and we

like something more than this and we

like something more than this and we want our bodies in relationship to

want our bodies in relationship to

want our bodies in relationship to technology to look like more than this

technology to look like more than this

technology to look like more than this then we need designers who are willing

then we need designers who are willing

then we need designers who are willing to do this and we need to make sure

to do this and we need to make sure

to do this and we need to make sure dancers are at the table when we’re

dancers are at the table when we’re

dancers are at the table when we’re designing our technology

designing our technology

designing our technology so that we can have experiences with

so that we can have experiences with

so that we can have experiences with technology that look a little bit more

technology that look a little bit more

technology that look a little bit more like this thank you

like this thank you

like this thank you [Applause]

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