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How can AI help our NHS and should we be concerned? | Rebecca Pope | TEDxFolkestone


your health is in your hands now perhaps

your health is in your hands now perhaps you’re thinking wait a minute I’ve come

you’re thinking wait a minute I’ve come

you’re thinking wait a minute I’ve come along to a TED talk where I meant to

along to a TED talk where I meant to

along to a TED talk where I meant to hear inspirational and pushing the

hear inspirational and pushing the

hear inspirational and pushing the boundaries idea but I hear this every

boundaries idea but I hear this every

boundaries idea but I hear this every time I go to the GP how is that a novel

time I go to the GP how is that a novel

time I go to the GP how is that a novel idea but I don’t mean this in the

idea but I don’t mean this in the

idea but I don’t mean this in the metaphorical sense but rather literally

metaphorical sense but rather literally

metaphorical sense but rather literally there are more mobile devices than there

there are more mobile devices than there

there are more mobile devices than there are people on the planet and every time

are people on the planet and every time

are people on the planet and every time you pick up your phone your laptop your

you pick up your phone your laptop your

you pick up your phone your laptop your tablet you’re interacting with

tablet you’re interacting with

tablet you’re interacting with artificial intelligence perhaps because

artificial intelligence perhaps because

artificial intelligence perhaps because you’re searching for something on Google

you’re searching for something on Google

you’re searching for something on Google you’re uploading a photograph on

you’re uploading a photograph on

you’re uploading a photograph on Facebook or asking Siri the meaning of

Facebook or asking Siri the meaning of

Facebook or asking Siri the meaning of life you’re already interacting with

life you’re already interacting with

life you’re already interacting with artificial intelligence you just may not

artificial intelligence you just may not

artificial intelligence you just may not know it now before I talk about what

know it now before I talk about what

know it now before I talk about what artificial intelligence is and how these

artificial intelligence is and how these

artificial intelligence is and how these systems crucially learn I want to talk

systems crucially learn I want to talk

systems crucially learn I want to talk about what artificial intelligence is

about what artificial intelligence is

about what artificial intelligence is not please expunge this idea from your

not please expunge this idea from your

not please expunge this idea from your mind

mind

mind [Laughter]

[Laughter]

[Laughter] this is the media’s portrayal of

this is the media’s portrayal of

this is the media’s portrayal of artificial intelligence and it comes

artificial intelligence and it comes

artificial intelligence and it comes about because we anthropomorphic Isis

about because we anthropomorphic Isis

about because we anthropomorphic Isis technology we try and humanize this

technology we try and humanize this

technology we try and humanize this digital technology artificial

digital technology artificial

digital technology artificial intelligence is not the same as human

intelligence is not the same as human

intelligence is not the same as human intelligence these systems don’t enjoy

intelligence these systems don’t enjoy

intelligence these systems don’t enjoy this beautiful inner mental world that

this beautiful inner mental world that

this beautiful inner mental world that we have of consciousness so what is AI

we have of consciousness so what is AI

we have of consciousness so what is AI well you know because you use it every

well you know because you use it every

well you know because you use it every day it’s a tool and since our inception

day it’s a tool and since our inception

day it’s a tool and since our inception I love this slide to my favorite person

I love this slide to my favorite person

I love this slide to my favorite person since our inception we have been master

since our inception we have been master

since our inception we have been master tool makers culminating in the 1940s

tool makers culminating in the 1940s

tool makers culminating in the 1940s with the advent of the computer now for

with the advent of the computer now for

with the advent of the computer now for many years human programmers people like

many years human programmers people like

many years human programmers people like me you wouldn’t get invited to many

me you wouldn’t get invited to many

me you wouldn’t get invited to many dinners would sit behind computers and

dinners would sit behind computers and

dinners would sit behind computers and history and handcraft code into the

history and handcraft code into the

history and handcraft code into the machine instructions to tell it what to

machine instructions to tell it what to

machine instructions to tell it what to do and we did pretty well we we got

do and we did pretty well we we got

do and we did pretty well we we got expert system systems that could outwit

expert system systems that could outwit

expert system systems that could outwit humans at particular tasks and it

humans at particular tasks and it

humans at particular tasks and it actually 20 years ago today would by

actually 20 years ago today would by

actually 20 years ago today would by sheer coincidence that IBM’s deep blue

sheer coincidence that IBM’s deep blue

sheer coincidence that IBM’s deep blue beat the then world champion Garry

beat the then world champion Garry

beat the then world champion Garry Kasparov at his own game

Kasparov at his own game

Kasparov at his own game at chess but then in the 1980s there was

at chess but then in the 1980s there was

at chess but then in the 1980s there was a revolution in computer science and it

a revolution in computer science and it

a revolution in computer science and it was an introduction of pac-man though

was an introduction of pac-man though

was an introduction of pac-man though that was awesome but rather the

that was awesome but rather the

that was awesome but rather the introduction of computer programs that

introduction of computer programs that

introduction of computer programs that could learn so how how can computers

could learn so how how can computers

could learn so how how can computers learn well actually the inspiration

learn well actually the inspiration

learn well actually the inspiration comes from the most magnificent machine

comes from the most magnificent machine

comes from the most magnificent machine we will ever own our own brains so if we

we will ever own our own brains so if we

we will ever own our own brains so if we think about how infants learn like this

think about how infants learn like this

think about how infants learn like this QT behind me not my son but you know

QT behind me not my son but you know

QT behind me not my son but you know I’ve got the image of a good website so

I’ve got the image of a good website so

I’ve got the image of a good website so it’s fine um if you think about how

it’s fine um if you think about how

it’s fine um if you think about how infants learn they learn from experience

infants learn they learn from experience

infants learn they learn from experience they learn from trial and error so every

they learn from trial and error so every

they learn from trial and error so every time this gorgeous little one goes to

time this gorgeous little one goes to

time this gorgeous little one goes to play with this guy

play with this guy

play with this guy new connections will form in the brain

new connections will form in the brain

new connections will form in the brain and over time those connections will

and over time those connections will

and over time those connections will become more efficient they’ll be able to

become more efficient they’ll be able to

become more efficient they’ll be able to talk to other parts of the brain better

talk to other parts of the brain better

talk to other parts of the brain better he’ll acquire the motor and cognitive

he’ll acquire the motor and cognitive

he’ll acquire the motor and cognitive skills he needs to be able to orient the

skills he needs to be able to orient the

skills he needs to be able to orient the blocks into the right spaces that’s how

blocks into the right spaces that’s how

blocks into the right spaces that’s how he’s learned and this is the idea that

he’s learned and this is the idea that

he’s learned and this is the idea that we do in artificial intelligence the

we do in artificial intelligence the

we do in artificial intelligence the computers have experiences well yes they

computers have experiences well yes they

computers have experiences well yes they do they have data so what we do is we

do they have data so what we do is we

do they have data so what we do is we allow AI systems to learn from data

allow AI systems to learn from data

allow AI systems to learn from data without being pre-programmed now this

without being pre-programmed now this

without being pre-programmed now this all might seem a little bit abstract and

all might seem a little bit abstract and

all might seem a little bit abstract and a bit sci-fi which I don’t want to do so

a bit sci-fi which I don’t want to do so

a bit sci-fi which I don’t want to do so I wanted to show you what researchers at

I wanted to show you what researchers at

I wanted to show you what researchers at Google had created an artificial

Google had created an artificial

Google had created an artificial intelligence system to play a 1980s game

intelligence system to play a 1980s game

intelligence system to play a 1980s game called breakout now the only one piece

called breakout now the only one piece

called breakout now the only one piece of code in this AI system is the goal

of code in this AI system is the goal

of code in this AI system is the goal and that goal was to maximize the score

and that goal was to maximize the score

and that goal was to maximize the score on the game how the computer would get

on the game how the computer would get

on the game how the computer would get the highest score what it would need to

the highest score what it would need to

the highest score what it would need to do it didn’t know it had been

do it didn’t know it had been

do it didn’t know it had been pre-programmed into the system now a

pre-programmed into the system now a

pre-programmed into the system now a hundred games you can see that it’s okay

hundred games you can see that it’s okay

hundred games you can see that it’s okay it’s had a bit experience it kind of

it’s had a bit experience it kind of

it’s had a bit experience it kind of knows what it’s doing but then it gets

knows what it’s doing but then it gets

knows what it’s doing but then it gets more experience more data and 300 games

more experience more data and 300 games

more experience more data and 300 games you can see that it’s kind of a human

you can see that it’s kind of a human

you can see that it’s kind of a human capabilities it’s knowing to move the

capabilities it’s knowing to move the

capabilities it’s knowing to move the bat left and right to keep the ball in

bat left and right to keep the ball in

bat left and right to keep the ball in play and that will knock the blocks and

play and that will knock the blocks and

play and that will knock the blocks and it’s cool go up and then quite

it’s cool go up and then quite

it’s cool go up and then quite unexpectedly they thought well let’s

unexpectedly they thought well let’s

unexpectedly they thought well let’s just leave this overnight because

just leave this overnight because

just leave this overnight because computer programmers do that because

computer programmers do that because

computer programmers do that because we’re lazy and let’s see what let’s see

we’re lazy and let’s see what let’s see

we’re lazy and let’s see what let’s see what happens and it learnt for itself

what happens and it learnt for itself

what happens and it learnt for itself this optimal solution to use the ball

this optimal solution to use the ball

this optimal solution to use the ball how cool is that right if only I had a

how cool is that right if only I had a

how cool is that right if only I had a brain like that to drill up the

brain like that to drill up the

brain like that to drill up the left-hand side and to get the highest

left-hand side and to get the highest

left-hand side and to get the highest score in as fewer possible moves as it

score in as fewer possible moves as it

score in as fewer possible moves as it could and it’s this technology this

could and it’s this technology this

could and it’s this technology this ability for computer programs to learn

ability for computer programs to learn

ability for computer programs to learn from data and we’re in a data fueled

from data and we’re in a data fueled

from data and we’re in a data fueled world where are we find ourselves in

world where are we find ourselves in

world where are we find ourselves in this

this

this officially intelligent world that we now

officially intelligent world that we now

officially intelligent world that we now live in and this technology has

live in and this technology has

live in and this technology has revolutionized a number of sectors

revolutionized a number of sectors

revolutionized a number of sectors banking marketing insurance and the list

banking marketing insurance and the list

banking marketing insurance and the list goes on but there’s one sector and in my

goes on but there’s one sector and in my

goes on but there’s one sector and in my opinion the most important sector where

opinion the most important sector where

opinion the most important sector where this technology is not being utilized to

this technology is not being utilized to

this technology is not being utilized to its full potential and that is

its full potential and that is

its full potential and that is healthcare now we know that our

healthcare now we know that our

healthcare now we know that our wonderful NHS collects an awful lot of

wonderful NHS collects an awful lot of

wonderful NHS collects an awful lot of information about us and they they

information about us and they they

information about us and they they either reside in unhackable paper that

either reside in unhackable paper that

either reside in unhackable paper that wasn’t me either I’m happy we’ll paid

wasn’t me either I’m happy we’ll paid

wasn’t me either I’m happy we’ll paid for files like this or in disparate

for files like this or in disparate

for files like this or in disparate clinical systems that don’t necessarily

clinical systems that don’t necessarily

clinical systems that don’t necessarily talk to each other so the compelling

talk to each other so the compelling

talk to each other so the compelling question is how do we develop and deploy

question is how do we develop and deploy

question is how do we develop and deploy artificial intelligence systems to learn

artificial intelligence systems to learn

artificial intelligence systems to learn from our data to ultimately help our

from our data to ultimately help our

from our data to ultimately help our very are struggling NHS system our

very are struggling NHS system our

very are struggling NHS system our healthcare system and I want to be

healthcare system and I want to be

healthcare system and I want to be really clear here when I say deploy I do

really clear here when I say deploy I do

really clear here when I say deploy I do not mean replace our wonderful doctors

not mean replace our wonderful doctors

not mean replace our wonderful doctors nurses therapists but rather give them

nurses therapists but rather give them

nurses therapists but rather give them tools artificial intelligence tools to

tools artificial intelligence tools to

tools artificial intelligence tools to make their working lives more proficient

make their working lives more proficient

make their working lives more proficient and ultimately let them care for

and ultimately let them care for

and ultimately let them care for patients because that’s why people

patients because that’s why people

patients because that’s why people joined the NHS now 1 million of us use

joined the NHS now 1 million of us use

joined the NHS now 1 million of us use our NHS every 36 hours and for the vast

our NHS every 36 hours and for the vast

our NHS every 36 hours and for the vast majority of us we receive world-class

majority of us we receive world-class

majority of us we receive world-class care but sadly for one in ten of us

care but sadly for one in ten of us

care but sadly for one in ten of us during a hospital mission we will

during a hospital mission we will

during a hospital mission we will undergo a medical error or a medical

undergo a medical error or a medical

undergo a medical error or a medical harm and research indicates that one in

harm and research indicates that one in

harm and research indicates that one in 20 deaths in hospital is preventable so

20 deaths in hospital is preventable so

20 deaths in hospital is preventable so how can we start to use the digital

how can we start to use the digital

how can we start to use the digital technologies that you probably hopefully

technologies that you probably hopefully

technologies that you probably hopefully I’m playing on now but have in your

I’m playing on now but have in your

I’m playing on now but have in your pockets to reduce these figures and help

pockets to reduce these figures and help

pockets to reduce these figures and help our healthcare system one way is digital

our healthcare system one way is digital

our healthcare system one way is digital or health we all probably have mobiles

or health we all probably have mobiles

or health we all probably have mobiles on us right now and those Mobile’s may

on us right now and those Mobile’s may

on us right now and those Mobile’s may be very useful for example in ordering

be very useful for example in ordering

be very useful for example in ordering on Sainsbury’s restroom and slightly

on Sainsbury’s restroom and slightly

on Sainsbury’s restroom and slightly higher tax bracket weight trays and um

higher tax bracket weight trays and um

higher tax bracket weight trays and um and also in our dating so these apps are

and also in our dating so these apps are

and also in our dating so these apps are everywhere but we don’t use them in our

everywhere but we don’t use them in our

everywhere but we don’t use them in our healthcare why not they’re very simple

healthcare why not they’re very simple

healthcare why not they’re very simple to use and it’s this idea only last

to use and it’s this idea only last

to use and it’s this idea only last month that the NHS adopted they

month that the NHS adopted they

month that the NHS adopted they developed this website which is a

developed this website which is a

developed this website which is a digital tool for people with a multitude

digital tool for people with a multitude

digital tool for people with a multitude of long-term conditions you can see here

of long-term conditions you can see here

of long-term conditions you can see here for example diabetes dementia cancer

for example diabetes dementia cancer

for example diabetes dementia cancer living in the community to use these

living in the community to use these

living in the community to use these apps to help them manage their condition

apps to help them manage their condition

apps to help them manage their condition and I want to just take a deep dive into

and I want to just take a deep dive into

and I want to just take a deep dive into one of these apps which was developed by

one of these apps which was developed by

one of these apps which was developed by researchers and clinicians at Oxford

researchers and clinicians at Oxford

researchers and clinicians at Oxford University

University

University now patients were given a tablet not a

now patients were given a tablet not a

now patients were given a tablet not a medical one one like this eight that’s a

medical one one like this eight that’s a

medical one one like this eight that’s a proper pun they were given this in their

proper pun they were given this in their

proper pun they were given this in their own homes and they were given a probe to

own homes and they were given a probe to

own homes and they were given a probe to pop on their finger and every day that

pop on their finger and every day that

pop on their finger and every day that that probe would read data about that

that probe would read data about that

that probe would read data about that patient vital signs like heart rate the

patient vital signs like heart rate the

patient vital signs like heart rate the amount of oxygen in the blood and over

amount of oxygen in the blood and over

amount of oxygen in the blood and over time that system the artificial

time that system the artificial

time that system the artificial intelligence system under the hood of

intelligence system under the hood of

intelligence system under the hood of this app would learn about this patient

this app would learn about this patient

this app would learn about this patient because even though you me may have a

because even though you me may have a

because even though you me may have a diagnosis we are all different our

diagnosis we are all different our

diagnosis we are all different our diagnosis is one thing but we are might

diagnosis is one thing but we are might

diagnosis is one thing but we are might be very different in the way we react in

be very different in the way we react in

be very different in the way we react in the way we integrate with our with our

the way we integrate with our with our

the way we integrate with our with our condition so what do these apps allow

condition so what do these apps allow

condition so what do these apps allow for well I argue that they allow for a

for well I argue that they allow for a

for well I argue that they allow for a more proactive rather than reactive

more proactive rather than reactive

more proactive rather than reactive healthcare system so let’s think about

healthcare system so let’s think about

healthcare system so let’s think about if we had a fictional patient with for

if we had a fictional patient with for

if we had a fictional patient with for example COPD which is chronic

example COPD which is chronic

example COPD which is chronic obstructive pulmonary disease affects 3

obstructive pulmonary disease affects 3

obstructive pulmonary disease affects 3 million people in the UK long term

million people in the UK long term

million people in the UK long term condition and they became acutely

condition and they became acutely

condition and they became acutely breathless what options they have at the

breathless what options they have at the

breathless what options they have at the moment well they could wring NHS 1 1 1

moment well they could wring NHS 1 1 1

moment well they could wring NHS 1 1 1 to get

to get

to get advice or they could ring 999

advice or they could ring 999

advice or they could ring 999 understandably both of those options

understandably both of those options

understandably both of those options were probably culminate in an ambulance

were probably culminate in an ambulance

were probably culminate in an ambulance being dispatched then being rushed there

being dispatched then being rushed there

being dispatched then being rushed there Lake Laney hospital being admitted

Lake Laney hospital being admitted

Lake Laney hospital being admitted patients don’t want to be in hospital

patients don’t want to be in hospital

patients don’t want to be in hospital they want to be empowered in their own

they want to be empowered in their own

they want to be empowered in their own health and how they look after

health and how they look after

health and how they look after themselves but let’s say that these apps

themselves but let’s say that these apps

themselves but let’s say that these apps were being used

were being used

were being used well that would allow for a proactive

well that would allow for a proactive

well that would allow for a proactive health care system rather than reactive

health care system rather than reactive

health care system rather than reactive one because these apps for example this

one because these apps for example this

one because these apps for example this particular one is able to predict ahead

particular one is able to predict ahead

particular one is able to predict ahead of time way before the patient starts to

of time way before the patient starts to

of time way before the patient starts to notice breathlessness feelings that

notice breathlessness feelings that

notice breathlessness feelings that they’re becoming unwell and they’re on

they’re becoming unwell and they’re on

they’re becoming unwell and they’re on this trajectory of health deterioration

this trajectory of health deterioration

this trajectory of health deterioration and what this app can then do is alert

and what this app can then do is alert

and what this app can then do is alert the clinical team so the patient’s

the clinical team so the patient’s

the clinical team so the patient’s doctor or spiritually nurse I think you

doctor or spiritually nurse I think you

doctor or spiritually nurse I think you need to check on this patient and so we

need to check on this patient and so we

need to check on this patient and so we then start to get personalized treatment

then start to get personalized treatment

then start to get personalized treatment plans because as I said no two patients

plans because as I said no two patients

plans because as I said no two patients with copd are the same now this

with copd are the same now this

with copd are the same now this particular app has been running for 12

particular app has been running for 12

particular app has been running for 12 months and showing really promising

months and showing really promising

months and showing really promising results patients using this app in

results patients using this app in

results patients using this app in Oxford there’s been a reduction of 17%

Oxford there’s been a reduction of 17%

Oxford there’s been a reduction of 17% of hospital admissions and 28% of GP

of hospital admissions and 28% of GP

of hospital admissions and 28% of GP visits have been reduced but that’s the

visits have been reduced but that’s the

visits have been reduced but that’s the stat that’s that’s more important what’s

stat that’s that’s more important what’s

stat that’s that’s more important what’s important is that patients were

important is that patients were

important is that patients were empowered in their own health they

empowered in their own health they

empowered in their own health they literally had their health in their

literally had their health in their

literally had their health in their hands and they were a collaborator with

hands and they were a collaborator with

hands and they were a collaborator with their clinical team through this digital

their clinical team through this digital

their clinical team through this digital technology to look after themselves

technology to look after themselves

technology to look after themselves now the second example is one very close

now the second example is one very close

now the second example is one very close to my heart I’ve for 25 years now I

to my heart I’ve for 25 years now I

to my heart I’ve for 25 years now I don’t look at type 1 diabetes and a

don’t look at type 1 diabetes and a

don’t look at type 1 diabetes and a worry for patients like me is is I sight

worry for patients like me is is I sight

worry for patients like me is is I sight loss so patients like me are 25 times

loss so patients like me are 25 times

loss so patients like me are 25 times more likely to suffer site loss and

more likely to suffer site loss and

more likely to suffer site loss and eventual blindness if caught early

eventual blindness if caught early

eventual blindness if caught early enough ninety-eight percent of these

enough ninety-eight percent of these

enough ninety-eight percent of these cases could be prevented so what’s the

cases could be prevented so what’s the

cases could be prevented so what’s the current state of play well an

current state of play well an

current state of play well an ophthalmologist an eye doctor will take

ophthalmologist an eye doctor will take

ophthalmologist an eye doctor will take a picture like this with the back of my

a picture like this with the back of my

a picture like this with the back of my eye this isn’t the back of my eye

eye this isn’t the back of my eye

eye this isn’t the back of my eye thankfully but and we’ll start to troll

thankfully but and we’ll start to troll

thankfully but and we’ll start to troll through these scans

through these scans

through these scans looking for features or characteristics

looking for features or characteristics

looking for features or characteristics that indicate that I have diabetic eye

that indicate that I have diabetic eye

that indicate that I have diabetic eye disease now this is a very very

disease now this is a very very

disease now this is a very very time-intensive thing for a doctor to do

time-intensive thing for a doctor to do

time-intensive thing for a doctor to do and we kind of have a perfect storm at

and we kind of have a perfect storm at

and we kind of have a perfect storm at the moment because we have very few

the moment because we have very few

the moment because we have very few ophthalmologists it takes a long time to

ophthalmologists it takes a long time to

ophthalmologists it takes a long time to become a consultant eye doctor but at

become a consultant eye doctor but at

become a consultant eye doctor but at the same time the number of people being

the same time the number of people being

the same time the number of people being diagnosed with diabetes in the UK is

diagnosed with diabetes in the UK is

diagnosed with diabetes in the UK is rapidly rising so a leading Hospital in

rapidly rising so a leading Hospital in

rapidly rising so a leading Hospital in London Moorfields Eye Hospital teamed up

London Moorfields Eye Hospital teamed up

London Moorfields Eye Hospital teamed up with google deepmind and said can we

with google deepmind and said can we

with google deepmind and said can we train an artificially intelligent system

train an artificially intelligent system

train an artificially intelligent system to read these scans now this hasn’t been

to read these scans now this hasn’t been

to read these scans now this hasn’t been integrated into the NHS it’s still in a

integrated into the NHS it’s still in a

integrated into the NHS it’s still in a research phase but if it were successful

research phase but if it were successful

research phase but if it were successful what are the kind of benefits it could

what are the kind of benefits it could

what are the kind of benefits it could give us well it would be able to triage

give us well it would be able to triage

give us well it would be able to triage patients according to their need so at

patients according to their need so at

patients according to their need so at the moment doctors see scans and they

the moment doctors see scans and they

the moment doctors see scans and they don’t know what they’re going to see so

don’t know what they’re going to see so

don’t know what they’re going to see so a patient might be 99th in the row that

a patient might be 99th in the row that

a patient might be 99th in the row that is probably going to go blind in the

is probably going to go blind in the

is probably going to go blind in the next month versus someone he’s looking

next month versus someone he’s looking

next month versus someone he’s looking at or she’s looking at at that

at or she’s looking at at that

at or she’s looking at at that particular day and it would take him

particular day and it would take him

particular day and it would take him along or her a long time to get to that

along or her a long time to get to that

along or her a long time to get to that patient that is really in need of their

patient that is really in need of their

patient that is really in need of their treatment but because as we saw earlier

treatment but because as we saw earlier

treatment but because as we saw earlier we don’t turn off these systems they can

we don’t turn off these systems they can

we don’t turn off these systems they can run all night they don’t go on annual

run all night they don’t go on annual

run all night they don’t go on annual leave they can start to triage these

leave they can start to triage these

leave they can start to triage these patients according to need now again as

patients according to need now again as

patients according to need now again as I said earlier we’re not replacing

I said earlier we’re not replacing

I said earlier we’re not replacing doctors but rather streamlining their

doctors but rather streamlining their

doctors but rather streamlining their workloads so that the right patients are

workloads so that the right patients are

workloads so that the right patients are seen at the right time so with all this

seen at the right time so with all this

seen at the right time so with all this wonderful technology that we have

wonderful technology that we have

wonderful technology that we have available and we’re trying to infuse

available and we’re trying to infuse

available and we’re trying to infuse into the NHS and into our healthcare

into the NHS and into our healthcare

into the NHS and into our healthcare system there are big players moving into

system there are big players moving into

system there are big players moving into this space Google Microsoft as we know

this space Google Microsoft as we know

this space Google Microsoft as we know IBM and this ecosystem is growing

IBM and this ecosystem is growing

IBM and this ecosystem is growing rapidly so should we be concerned not

rapidly so should we be concerned not

rapidly so should we be concerned not it’s my opinion that we need to partner

it’s my opinion that we need to partner

it’s my opinion that we need to partner with third parties for the NHS to

with third parties for the NHS to

with third parties for the NHS to continue to offer world-class care

continue to offer world-class care

continue to offer world-class care particularly under the operational

particularly under the operational

particularly under the operational financial pressures it currently finds

financial pressures it currently finds

financial pressures it currently finds itself in but there are ethical and

itself in but there are ethical and

itself in but there are ethical and regulatory concerns that we need to

regulatory concerns that we need to

regulatory concerns that we need to discuss in public forums like this for

discuss in public forums like this for

discuss in public forums like this for example only yesterday as I’m sure we

example only yesterday as I’m sure we

example only yesterday as I’m sure we all know there was a cyber attack on NHS

all know there was a cyber attack on NHS

all know there was a cyber attack on NHS systems if we’re sharing data between

systems if we’re sharing data between

systems if we’re sharing data between the NHS and other other operational

the NHS and other other operational

the NHS and other other operational systems for example let’s say in KPMG

systems for example let’s say in KPMG

systems for example let’s say in KPMG your IBM or wherever how do we make sure

your IBM or wherever how do we make sure

your IBM or wherever how do we make sure that that data isn’t hackable if we give

that that data isn’t hackable if we give

that that data isn’t hackable if we give our data to private companies who owns

our data to private companies who owns

our data to private companies who owns that data and what can they do with it

that data and what can they do with it

that data and what can they do with it how do we ensure that our healthcare

how do we ensure that our healthcare

how do we ensure that our healthcare data unlike our facebook data doesn’t

data unlike our facebook data doesn’t

data unlike our facebook data doesn’t become a monetized commodity for example

become a monetized commodity for example

become a monetized commodity for example I don’t want to go onto the internet and

I don’t want to go onto the internet and

I don’t want to go onto the internet and be you know looking at the latest cat

be you know looking at the latest cat

be you know looking at the latest cat video and and I mean do my work and and

video and and I mean do my work and and

video and and I mean do my work and and this is recorded right I’m gonna start

this is recorded right I’m gonna start

this is recorded right I’m gonna start to see advertisements for diabetic

to see advertisements for diabetic

to see advertisements for diabetic related products I find it really spooky

related products I find it really spooky

related products I find it really spooky in it and very intrusive and we heard

in it and very intrusive and we heard

in it and very intrusive and we heard earlier that these artificial

earlier that these artificial

earlier that these artificial intelligence systems can allow doctors

intelligence systems can allow doctors

intelligence systems can allow doctors beep and other members of the clinical

beep and other members of the clinical

beep and other members of the clinical team to be more effective in their

team to be more effective in their

team to be more effective in their diagnosis but what happens because no

diagnosis but what happens because no

diagnosis but what happens because no system is perfect even a digital one

system is perfect even a digital one

system is perfect even a digital one when the system gets it wrong when it

when the system gets it wrong when it

when the system gets it wrong when it misses that cancerous growth from a

misses that cancerous growth from a

misses that cancerous growth from a legal perspective who is responsible me

legal perspective who is responsible me

legal perspective who is responsible me the developer the doctor or the system

the developer the doctor or the system

the developer the doctor or the system itself which as I said earlier isn’t

itself which as I said earlier isn’t

itself which as I said earlier isn’t human

human

human where is it gray gray area and we need

where is it gray gray area and we need

where is it gray gray area and we need to discuss this as a society so it would

to discuss this as a society so it would

to discuss this as a society so it would be remiss of me as a data scientist not

be remiss of me as a data scientist not

be remiss of me as a data scientist not to predict something and how do if we if

to predict something and how do if we if

to predict something and how do if we if we’re able to tackle these very

we’re able to tackle these very

we’re able to tackle these very important and I think game-changing

important and I think game-changing

important and I think game-changing questions where do I see the this new

questions where do I see the this new

questions where do I see the this new algorithmic healthcare landscape passing

algorithmic healthcare landscape passing

algorithmic healthcare landscape passing what will it look like well I think if

what will it look like well I think if

what will it look like well I think if we do this

we do this

we do this Polly and effectively and in

Polly and effectively and in

Polly and effectively and in collaboration with the NHS then

collaboration with the NHS then

collaboration with the NHS then paradoxically our NHS could actually

paradoxically our NHS could actually

paradoxically our NHS could actually become more human more personal because

become more human more personal because

become more human more personal because doctors nurses and therapists time will

doctors nurses and therapists time will

doctors nurses and therapists time will be freed up and no algorithm or

be freed up and no algorithm or

be freed up and no algorithm or artificial intelligence system can

artificial intelligence system can

artificial intelligence system can comfort you or be there for you

comfort you or be there for you

comfort you or be there for you when your worst fears are confirmed

when your worst fears are confirmed

when your worst fears are confirmed empathy is and I believe will always

empathy is and I believe will always

empathy is and I believe will always remain a uniquely human trait thank you

remain a uniquely human trait thank you

remain a uniquely human trait thank you for your time

for your time

for your time [Applause]

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