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Highlighting the privilege we often forget | Debra Lam | TEDxNUS


[Applause]

[Applause] hi everyone I’m Debra

hi everyone I’m Debra

hi everyone I’m Debra and I’m here to share with you my story

and I’m here to share with you my story

and I’m here to share with you my story today I often hear people telling me

today I often hear people telling me

today I often hear people telling me these things you are so inspiring the

these things you are so inspiring the

these things you are so inspiring the work that you do is amazing how did you

work that you do is amazing how did you

work that you do is amazing how did you even find the courage to set up your own

even find the courage to set up your own

even find the courage to set up your own social enterprise and while I really

social enterprise and while I really

social enterprise and while I really appreciate all these nice things that

appreciate all these nice things that

appreciate all these nice things that people have been telling me I see myself

people have been telling me I see myself

people have been telling me I see myself as a very average 23 year old

as a very average 23 year old

as a very average 23 year old Singaporean the only reason I’m able to

Singaporean the only reason I’m able to

Singaporean the only reason I’m able to do these things is because of one word

do these things is because of one word

do these things is because of one word privileged privileged enough to be able

privileged privileged enough to be able

privileged privileged enough to be able to work on the things I care about

to work on the things I care about

to work on the things I care about and M passionate about and also

and M passionate about and also

and M passionate about and also privileged enough that I have a

privileged enough that I have a

privileged enough that I have a relatively well-to-do family that

relatively well-to-do family that

relatively well-to-do family that supports me in my journey but this

supports me in my journey but this

supports me in my journey but this realization only came to me early last

realization only came to me early last

realization only came to me early last year I grew up with two brothers with

year I grew up with two brothers with

year I grew up with two brothers with autism and have always witnessed

autism and have always witnessed

autism and have always witnessed countless of times how disadvantaged

countless of times how disadvantaged

countless of times how disadvantaged they are in society how society is very

they are in society how society is very

they are in society how society is very unkind to watch people like them and

unkind to watch people like them and

unkind to watch people like them and just how in general they didn’t really

just how in general they didn’t really

just how in general they didn’t really fit in okay so but I never understood

fit in okay so but I never understood

fit in okay so but I never understood these experiences and I never understood

these experiences and I never understood

these experiences and I never understood these feelings that my brothers were

these feelings that my brothers were

these feelings that my brothers were facing because on the converse I was an

facing because on the converse I was an

facing because on the converse I was an extremely lucky go I was given all sorts

extremely lucky go I was given all sorts

extremely lucky go I was given all sorts of opportunities leadership programs

of opportunities leadership programs

of opportunities leadership programs corrective development overseas exchange

corrective development overseas exchange

corrective development overseas exchange programs but my childhood was not as

programs but my childhood was not as

programs but my childhood was not as positive I remember in the early days my

positive I remember in the early days my

positive I remember in the early days my younger brother would melt down almost

younger brother would melt down almost

younger brother would melt down almost every weekend and spoiling all kinds of

every weekend and spoiling all kinds of

every weekend and spoiling all kinds of possibilities of family outings and

possibilities of family outings and

possibilities of family outings and because of that I didn’t enjoy Show and

because of that I didn’t enjoy Show and

because of that I didn’t enjoy Show and Tell lessons as well because while all

Tell lessons as well because while all

Tell lessons as well because while all my classmates were talking about how

my classmates were talking about how

my classmates were talking about how much fun they had with their siblings

much fun they had with their siblings

much fun they had with their siblings over the weekend I could never relate to

over the weekend I could never relate to

over the weekend I could never relate to those experiences and these accumulated

those experiences and these accumulated

those experiences and these accumulated experiences made me feel very isolated

experiences made me feel very isolated

experiences made me feel very isolated and alienated in secondary 3 when my

and alienated in secondary 3 when my

and alienated in secondary 3 when my family was sending me to Changi Airport

family was sending me to Changi Airport

family was sending me to Changi Airport for my exchange trip to Melbourne my

for my exchange trip to Melbourne my

for my exchange trip to Melbourne my elder brother asked my mom why do I get

elder brother asked my mom why do I get

elder brother asked my mom why do I get to go to so many different countries

to go to so many different countries

to go to so many different countries with my school and yet he was never

with my school and yet he was never

with my school and yet he was never considered for such opportunities at all

considered for such opportunities at all

considered for such opportunities at all I felt something in my heart when I

I felt something in my heart when I

I felt something in my heart when I heard him say that but to a 15 year old

heard him say that but to a 15 year old

heard him say that but to a 15 year old girl going to bought a plane with my

girl going to bought a plane with my

girl going to bought a plane with my friends flying to a foreign country was

friends flying to a foreign country was

friends flying to a foreign country was just so much more exciting and enticing

just so much more exciting and enticing

just so much more exciting and enticing as compared to pondering about why life

as compared to pondering about why life

as compared to pondering about why life was so different from my brother’s so I

was so different from my brother’s so I

was so different from my brother’s so I ate not that slight discomfort oh yeah

ate not that slight discomfort oh yeah

ate not that slight discomfort oh yeah okay so and so now you would think that

okay so and so now you would think that

okay so and so now you would think that my experiences actually led me to what

my experiences actually led me to what

my experiences actually led me to what I’m doing today but it was actually

I’m doing today but it was actually

I’m doing today but it was actually quite the opposite for very brief

quite the opposite for very brief

quite the opposite for very brief moments in my life I toyed with the idea

moments in my life I toyed with the idea

moments in my life I toyed with the idea of changing society’s perception towards

of changing society’s perception towards

of changing society’s perception towards persons with disabilities but really

persons with disabilities but really

persons with disabilities but really what were teenage go to besides I had to

what were teenage go to besides I had to

what were teenage go to besides I had to study get good grades so that I can

study get good grades so that I can

study get good grades so that I can secure a good job all very typical

secure a good job all very typical

secure a good job all very typical Singaporean student mindset secondary

Singaporean student mindset secondary

Singaporean student mindset secondary school was also the time where I met my

school was also the time where I met my

school was also the time where I met my co-founder Ryan and I also realized that

co-founder Ryan and I also realized that

co-founder Ryan and I also realized that Ryan had a brother with special needs

Ryan had a brother with special needs

Ryan had a brother with special needs upon knowing that fact I was so excited

upon knowing that fact I was so excited

upon knowing that fact I was so excited that I finally found someone who would

that I finally found someone who would

that I finally found someone who would understand my feelings and my situation

understand my feelings and my situation

understand my feelings and my situation someone that I could finally connect

someone that I could finally connect

someone that I could finally connect with but of course it was nothing like

with but of course it was nothing like

with but of course it was nothing like that

that

that so I found out that Ryan was actually a

so I found out that Ryan was actually a

so I found out that Ryan was actually a saint the kind that would be profound on

saint the kind that would be profound on

saint the kind that would be profound on news media as the perfect representation

news media as the perfect representation

news media as the perfect representation promoting positivity hope and inclusion

promoting positivity hope and inclusion

promoting positivity hope and inclusion but it took an online article to

but it took an online article to

but it took an online article to actually shatter that entire worldview

actually shatter that entire worldview

actually shatter that entire worldview seeing how a group especially school

seeing how a group especially school

seeing how a group especially school teachers were making snide remarks about

teachers were making snide remarks about

teachers were making snide remarks about their student was enough to make it his

their student was enough to make it his

their student was enough to make it his life goal to combat condescending

life goal to combat condescending

life goal to combat condescending attitudes of society towards persons

attitudes of society towards persons

attitudes of society towards persons with disabilities so that was back in

with disabilities so that was back in

with disabilities so that was back in 2011 and 19 year old Ryan then excelled

2011 and 19 year old Ryan then excelled

2011 and 19 year old Ryan then excelled in one thing which was dragon boating so

in one thing which was dragon boating so

in one thing which was dragon boating so he conceived this idea of wanting to

he conceived this idea of wanting to

he conceived this idea of wanting to train an entire team of persons with

train an entire team of persons with

train an entire team of persons with disabilities in the spot and it made

disabilities in the spot and it made

disabilities in the spot and it made perfect sense to him because dragon

perfect sense to him because dragon

perfect sense to him because dragon boating is perceived as a very

boating is perceived as a very

boating is perceived as a very physically and mentally demanding sport

physically and mentally demanding sport

physically and mentally demanding sport and of

and of

and of that if they were able to race that

that if they were able to race that

that if they were able to race that would really make a bold statement that

would really make a bold statement that

would really make a bold statement that persons with disabilities are equal so

persons with disabilities are equal so

persons with disabilities are equal so coincidentally he chanced upon this idea

coincidentally he chanced upon this idea

coincidentally he chanced upon this idea competition so he submitted the idea and

competition so he submitted the idea and

competition so he submitted the idea and got through the first round himself and

got through the first round himself and

got through the first round himself and then after that worked me in for the

then after that worked me in for the

then after that worked me in for the finals yes later I would have found out

finals yes later I would have found out

finals yes later I would have found out that he only got me into the finals

that he only got me into the finals

that he only got me into the finals because he realized that I could speak

because he realized that I could speak

because he realized that I could speak well and design nice lights or at least

well and design nice lights or at least

well and design nice lights or at least better than him so talk about telling

better than him so talk about telling

better than him so talk about telling something right from the beginning right

something right from the beginning right

something right from the beginning right so after that we we actually want the

so after that we we actually want the

so after that we we actually want the competition and I remember when I was

competition and I remember when I was

competition and I remember when I was walking up on stage I was bombarding him

walking up on stage I was bombarding him

walking up on stage I was bombarding him with so many questions so I asking

with so many questions so I asking

with so many questions so I asking questions like what are we going to do

questions like what are we going to do

questions like what are we going to do now um we don’t have a plan

now um we don’t have a plan

now um we don’t have a plan we have never worked with persons with

we have never worked with persons with

we have never worked with persons with disabilities before how on earth is this

disabilities before how on earth is this

disabilities before how on earth is this idea ever going to materialize I had no

idea ever going to materialize I had no

idea ever going to materialize I had no clue and the whole thing just didn’t

clue and the whole thing just didn’t

clue and the whole thing just didn’t make sense to me

make sense to me

make sense to me so because we had no plan we did totally

so because we had no plan we did totally

so because we had no plan we did totally nothing um for the next few weeks after

nothing um for the next few weeks after

nothing um for the next few weeks after the competition until one day the

the competition until one day the

the competition until one day the organizers caught us or to check on the

organizers caught us or to check on the

organizers caught us or to check on the progress and we were like oh yeah I’m

progress and we were like oh yeah I’m

progress and we were like oh yeah I’m working on it yeah I’m trying to get in

working on it yeah I’m trying to get in

working on it yeah I’m trying to get in touch with a few organizations oh yeah

touch with a few organizations oh yeah

touch with a few organizations oh yeah there was a hook the line so after I put

there was a hook the line so after I put

there was a hook the line so after I put down the phone I panic I immediately

down the phone I panic I immediately

down the phone I panic I immediately went to Google out a whole list of

went to Google out a whole list of

went to Google out a whole list of voluntary welfare organizations serving

voluntary welfare organizations serving

voluntary welfare organizations serving persons with disabilities and I emailed

persons with disabilities and I emailed

persons with disabilities and I emailed about 20 of them and trust me when I say

about 20 of them and trust me when I say

about 20 of them and trust me when I say it’s uh it seemed like the exact carbon

it’s uh it seemed like the exact carbon

it’s uh it seemed like the exact carbon copy of a spam email so it went along

copy of a spam email so it went along

copy of a spam email so it went along the lines like this

the lines like this

the lines like this hey I’m Debra I want to set up a dragon

hey I’m Debra I want to set up a dragon

hey I’m Debra I want to set up a dragon ball team for you hope to hear from you

ball team for you hope to hear from you

ball team for you hope to hear from you soon thank you

soon thank you

soon thank you so obviously nobody replied even after

so obviously nobody replied even after

so obviously nobody replied even after two weeks and I remember I was telling

two weeks and I remember I was telling

two weeks and I remember I was telling Ryan okay definitely no go we’re just

Ryan okay definitely no go we’re just

Ryan okay definitely no go we’re just going to like no not not do anything

going to like no not not do anything

going to like no not not do anything from now on but two weeks later the deaf

from now on but two weeks later the deaf

from now on but two weeks later the deaf Association actually replied and that

Association actually replied and that

Association actually replied and that was how we got started so deaf dragon

was how we got started so deaf dragon

was how we got started so deaf dragon started its very first training on 4th

started its very first training on 4th

started its very first training on 4th of March 2012 with four deaf peddlers

of March 2012 with four deaf peddlers

of March 2012 with four deaf peddlers and the beginning days were extremely

and the beginning days were extremely

and the beginning days were extremely difficult so many people were telling us

difficult so many people were telling us

difficult so many people were telling us deaf dragons wouldn’t work how on earth

deaf dragons wouldn’t work how on earth

deaf dragons wouldn’t work how on earth can deaf people dragonball when dragon

can deaf people dragonball when dragon

can deaf people dragonball when dragon boating is such a verbal and

boating is such a verbal and

boating is such a verbal and communicative spot and how are we going

communicative spot and how are we going

communicative spot and how are we going to communicate with our deaf paddle

to communicate with our deaf paddle

to communicate with our deaf paddle when we had no prior knowledge or

when we had no prior knowledge or

when we had no prior knowledge or experience in sign language but thanks

experience in sign language but thanks

experience in sign language but thanks to partners like StarHub who believed in

to partners like StarHub who believed in

to partners like StarHub who believed in us enough to commit to a three-year

us enough to commit to a three-year

us enough to commit to a three-year sponsorship so with that support the

sponsorship so with that support the

sponsorship so with that support the team grew and by 2014 we will we had

team grew and by 2014 we will we had

team grew and by 2014 we will we had participated in multiple local and

participated in multiple local and

participated in multiple local and international competitions and because

international competitions and because

international competitions and because of we were performing well enough more

of we were performing well enough more

of we were performing well enough more people started taking notice of us and

people started taking notice of us and

people started taking notice of us and more support also came pouring in and

more support also came pouring in and

more support also came pouring in and this was actually a pivotal moment in my

this was actually a pivotal moment in my

this was actually a pivotal moment in my life seeing the kind of impact that a

life seeing the kind of impact that a

life seeing the kind of impact that a team like deaf dragons had created it

team like deaf dragons had created it

team like deaf dragons had created it really changed my perception of persons

really changed my perception of persons

really changed my perception of persons with disabilities and turn me into an

with disabilities and turn me into an

with disabilities and turn me into an advocate for them so now we needed to

advocate for them so now we needed to

advocate for them so now we needed to win more competitions so we could make

win more competitions so we could make

win more competitions so we could make bigger and bolder statements that

bigger and bolder statements that

bigger and bolder statements that persons with disabilities are our equal

persons with disabilities are our equal

persons with disabilities are our equal stop discriminating them and leaving

stop discriminating them and leaving

stop discriminating them and leaving them behind

them behind

them behind so I send them um so we started getting

so I send them um so we started getting

so I send them um so we started getting our deaf paddlers or to go to the gym

our deaf paddlers or to go to the gym

our deaf paddlers or to go to the gym only for them to come back telling us oh

only for them to come back telling us oh

only for them to come back telling us oh I don’t know how to use the gym

I don’t know how to use the gym

I don’t know how to use the gym equipment or do the exercises that we

equipment or do the exercises that we

equipment or do the exercises that we wanted them to do so I send um once

wanted them to do so I send um once

wanted them to do so I send um once again I send a few more youtube links to

again I send a few more youtube links to

again I send a few more youtube links to them and they came back telling me coach

them and they came back telling me coach

them and they came back telling me coach I can’t watch this video I don’t

I can’t watch this video I don’t

I can’t watch this video I don’t understand it at all back then in 2014

understand it at all back then in 2014

understand it at all back then in 2014 YouTube they don’t have subtitles or

YouTube they don’t have subtitles or

YouTube they don’t have subtitles or closed captioning so that was when we

closed captioning so that was when we

closed captioning so that was when we considered this crazy idea of wanting to

considered this crazy idea of wanting to

considered this crazy idea of wanting to create Singapore’s first inclusive gym

create Singapore’s first inclusive gym

create Singapore’s first inclusive gym but upon further research and speaking

but upon further research and speaking

but upon further research and speaking to hundreds of people we realized that

to hundreds of people we realized that

to hundreds of people we realized that there was a bigger gap a more urgent

there was a bigger gap a more urgent

there was a bigger gap a more urgent issue to be addressed there was little

issue to be addressed there was little

issue to be addressed there was little to no awareness and education of persons

to no awareness and education of persons

to no awareness and education of persons with disabilities in society and due to

with disabilities in society and due to

with disabilities in society and due to this gap it was causing so much

this gap it was causing so much

this gap it was causing so much misconceptions and discrimination

misconceptions and discrimination

misconceptions and discrimination towards this group of people so that’s

towards this group of people so that’s

towards this group of people so that’s how society staples came about we forum

how society staples came about we forum

how society staples came about we forum in 2015 and through our team building

in 2015 and through our team building

in 2015 and through our team building workshops community outreach events and

workshops community outreach events and

workshops community outreach events and school programs we want to raise

school programs we want to raise

school programs we want to raise awareness and educate the public about

awareness and educate the public about

awareness and educate the public about persons with disabilities and also

persons with disabilities and also

persons with disabilities and also empower everyone to contribute to the

empower everyone to contribute to the

empower everyone to contribute to the inclusive movement that we are building

inclusive movement that we are building

inclusive movement that we are building and our vision is extremely simple we

and our vision is extremely simple we

and our vision is extremely simple we want to create an inclusive future for

want to create an inclusive future for

want to create an inclusive future for them

them

them five years ago the word inclusion belly

five years ago the word inclusion belly

five years ago the word inclusion belly existed but today it is a buzzword that

existed but today it is a buzzword that

existed but today it is a buzzword that is appearing everywhere everyone from

is appearing everywhere everyone from

is appearing everywhere everyone from the government to corporations and even

the government to corporations and even

the government to corporations and even individuals are prepared to put in every

individuals are prepared to put in every

individuals are prepared to put in every ounce of effort to increase the quality

ounce of effort to increase the quality

ounce of effort to increase the quality of lives of persons with disabilities

of lives of persons with disabilities

of lives of persons with disabilities and also to integrate them into society

and also to integrate them into society

and also to integrate them into society but I speak to the people who are not on

but I speak to the people who are not on

but I speak to the people who are not on the bandwagon yet because creating an

the bandwagon yet because creating an

the bandwagon yet because creating an inclusive society is not just merely

inclusive society is not just merely

inclusive society is not just merely creating inclusive playgrounds and

creating inclusive playgrounds and

creating inclusive playgrounds and inclusive schools or promoting

inclusive schools or promoting

inclusive schools or promoting inclusiveness as a value and inclusive

inclusiveness as a value and inclusive

inclusiveness as a value and inclusive society only materializes when every

society only materializes when every

society only materializes when every single one in society is involved when

single one in society is involved when

single one in society is involved when people start seeing persons with

people start seeing persons with

people start seeing persons with disabilities not for their disability

disabilities not for their disability

disabilities not for their disability but for who they are and when they can

but for who they are and when they can

but for who they are and when they can be fully integrated into society not

be fully integrated into society not

be fully integrated into society not treated or regarded as a marginalized

treated or regarded as a marginalized

treated or regarded as a marginalized group thinking back in my life I

group thinking back in my life I

group thinking back in my life I realized that I had privilege in every

realized that I had privilege in every

realized that I had privilege in every step of the way

step of the way

step of the way from being able to dream and hope that

from being able to dream and hope that

from being able to dream and hope that I’ll be driving a Porsche when I was

I’ll be driving a Porsche when I was

I’ll be driving a Porsche when I was when I’m 25 years old to getting all

when I’m 25 years old to getting all

when I’m 25 years old to getting all kinds of opportunities and even running

kinds of opportunities and even running

kinds of opportunities and even running my own social enterprise right now but

my own social enterprise right now but

my own social enterprise right now but the narrative is so so different for so

the narrative is so so different for so

the narrative is so so different for so many persons with disabilities and other

many persons with disabilities and other

many persons with disabilities and other people out there some of them don’t even

people out there some of them don’t even

people out there some of them don’t even have a dream some of them don’t even

have a dream some of them don’t even

have a dream some of them don’t even dare to dream about the possibilities

dare to dream about the possibilities

dare to dream about the possibilities and the future because they are so busy

and the future because they are so busy

and the future because they are so busy fighting daily struggles and

fighting daily struggles and

fighting daily struggles and discrimination that they have no time to

discrimination that they have no time to

discrimination that they have no time to think about this sort of things so my

think about this sort of things so my

think about this sort of things so my challenge to you is this start

challenge to you is this start

challenge to you is this start recognizing and acknowledging the

recognizing and acknowledging the

recognizing and acknowledging the privileges that you have and after you

privileges that you have and after you

privileges that you have and after you have done that what are you going to do

have done that what are you going to do

have done that what are you going to do about it are you going to continue to

about it are you going to continue to

about it are you going to continue to turn a blind eye to the issues plaguing

turn a blind eye to the issues plaguing

turn a blind eye to the issues plaguing society or will you open up yourself to

society or will you open up yourself to

society or will you open up yourself to different perspectives and opinions and

different perspectives and opinions and

different perspectives and opinions and take whatever privilege that you have NP

take whatever privilege that you have NP

take whatever privilege that you have NP forward I dream of the day where the

forward I dream of the day where the

forward I dream of the day where the word inclusion doesn’t even exist

word inclusion doesn’t even exist

word inclusion doesn’t even exist anymore because that means Singapore and

anymore because that means Singapore and

anymore because that means Singapore and the entire war has become so inclusive

the entire war has become so inclusive

the entire war has become so inclusive that we don’t even need to use the word

that we don’t even need to use the word

that we don’t even need to use the word to remind or

to remind or

to remind or teach people how to practice inclusion I

teach people how to practice inclusion I

teach people how to practice inclusion I have just begun my journey now will you

have just begun my journey now will you

have just begun my journey now will you join me and create an inclusive future

join me and create an inclusive future

join me and create an inclusive future together thank you very much

together thank you very much

together thank you very much [Applause]

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