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ladies and gentlemen I would like to

ladies and gentlemen I would like to share with you some experiences I had a

share with you some experiences I had a

share with you some experiences I had a couple of years ago with some serious

couple of years ago with some serious

couple of years ago with some serious health setbacks and the title of my

health setbacks and the title of my

health setbacks and the title of my speech is health resilience and the

speech is health resilience and the

speech is health resilience and the motto in his plan or be planned for

motto in his plan or be planned for

motto in his plan or be planned for because I seriously believe and we saw

because I seriously believe and we saw

because I seriously believe and we saw some examples of it today that you can

some examples of it today that you can

some examples of it today that you can be in charge when it comes to your

be in charge when it comes to your

be in charge when it comes to your health my name is John McNamara I was

health my name is John McNamara I was

health my name is John McNamara I was born in the island of curacao which is

born in the island of curacao which is

born in the island of curacao which is on the Dutch Caribbean tropical island

on the Dutch Caribbean tropical island

on the Dutch Caribbean tropical island when I was 11 years old I moved to the

when I was 11 years old I moved to the

when I was 11 years old I moved to the Netherlands I studied there I worked

Netherlands I studied there I worked

Netherlands I studied there I worked there and during the time when this

there and during the time when this

there and during the time when this story starts I was fishing with my

story starts I was fishing with my

story starts I was fishing with my brothers I was working abroad a lot in

brothers I was working abroad a lot in

brothers I was working abroad a lot in Eastern Europe in Russia and I’m still

Eastern Europe in Russia and I’m still

Eastern Europe in Russia and I’m still working abroad a lot in Europe and also

working abroad a lot in Europe and also

working abroad a lot in Europe and also in Turkey now this band of brothers as I

in Turkey now this band of brothers as I

in Turkey now this band of brothers as I will call it was fishing in 1997 and we

will call it was fishing in 1997 and we

will call it was fishing in 1997 and we are fishing on pike and pike is a fish

are fishing on pike and pike is a fish

are fishing on pike and pike is a fish it swims in sweet water in rivers and

it swims in sweet water in rivers and

it swims in sweet water in rivers and lakes and the interesting thing about

lakes and the interesting thing about

lakes and the interesting thing about this butter is you need to find it it’s

this butter is you need to find it it’s

this butter is you need to find it it’s waiting somewhere it’s waiting for its

waiting somewhere it’s waiting for its

waiting somewhere it’s waiting for its prey to pass by all its waiting

prey to pass by all its waiting

prey to pass by all its waiting preferably for your hook to pass by so

preferably for your hook to pass by so

preferably for your hook to pass by so as an angler together with my brothers I

as an angler together with my brothers I

as an angler together with my brothers I was walking and walking with my casting

was walking and walking with my casting

was walking and walking with my casting rod trying to find this Pike because

rod trying to find this Pike because

rod trying to find this Pike because it’s waiting somewhere and

it’s waiting somewhere and

it’s waiting somewhere and takes hours ladies in seven hours

takes hours ladies in seven hours

takes hours ladies in seven hours fishing on Park and after a while some

fishing on Park and after a while some

fishing on Park and after a while some urgency in my bowels build up and there

urgency in my bowels build up and there

urgency in my bowels build up and there is no public toilet around for miles so

is no public toilet around for miles so

is no public toilet around for miles so I had to find a tree I sat down behind

I had to find a tree I sat down behind

I had to find a tree I sat down behind tree I defecated and this came with some

tree I defecated and this came with some

tree I defecated and this came with some noise ladies and gentlemen I will spare

noise ladies and gentlemen I will spare

noise ladies and gentlemen I will spare you the details it was a bit of

you the details it was a bit of

you the details it was a bit of splattering a bit of diarrhea I had is

splattering a bit of diarrhea I had is

splattering a bit of diarrhea I had is already for quite a while for me it was

already for quite a while for me it was

already for quite a while for me it was relatively normal but your brothers

relatively normal but your brothers

relatively normal but your brothers ain’t your brothers if they do not

ain’t your brothers if they do not

ain’t your brothers if they do not comment upon this immediately so they

comment upon this immediately so they

comment upon this immediately so they were screaming that yummy thing what on

were screaming that yummy thing what on

were screaming that yummy thing what on earth are you doing behind that tree

earth are you doing behind that tree

earth are you doing behind that tree what noise is that are you frying an egg

what noise is that are you frying an egg

what noise is that are you frying an egg yeah you should go to a doctor brother

yeah you should go to a doctor brother

yeah you should go to a doctor brother it was really the first time someone

it was really the first time someone

it was really the first time someone told me you should go to a doctor and as

told me you should go to a doctor and as

told me you should go to a doctor and as a matter of fact ladies and gentlemen

a matter of fact ladies and gentlemen

a matter of fact ladies and gentlemen during that time I I was traveling a lot

during that time I I was traveling a lot

during that time I I was traveling a lot and I was consuming all sorts of food I

and I was consuming all sorts of food I

and I was consuming all sorts of food I was not really familiar with I had to

was not really familiar with I had to

was not really familiar with I had to have my calorie intake every day and

have my calorie intake every day and

have my calorie intake every day and just keep in mind I’m a vegetarian

just keep in mind I’m a vegetarian

just keep in mind I’m a vegetarian so sometimes in some countries it is

so sometimes in some countries it is

so sometimes in some countries it is really difficult so I ate all sorts of

really difficult so I ate all sorts of

really difficult so I ate all sorts of food and I just thought okay this

food and I just thought okay this

food and I just thought okay this defecation problems that I have it’s

defecation problems that I have it’s

defecation problems that I have it’s some sort of virus you know it will pass

some sort of virus you know it will pass

some sort of virus you know it will pass over it will it’s it’s a temporary thing

over it will it’s it’s a temporary thing

over it will it’s it’s a temporary thing on top of that of course I’m a man I’m a

on top of that of course I’m a man I’m a

on top of that of course I’m a man I’m a match one yeah I don’t go whining to a

match one yeah I don’t go whining to a

match one yeah I don’t go whining to a doctor this is a problem many men have

doctor this is a problem many men have

doctor this is a problem many men have women will go to doctors man postponed

women will go to doctors man postponed

women will go to doctors man postponed visits to doctors yeah so I went to

visits to doctors yeah so I went to

visits to doctors yeah so I went to doctor

doctor

doctor and at the age of 40 I was diagnosed

and at the age of 40 I was diagnosed

and at the age of 40 I was diagnosed with colon cancer and if you get this

with colon cancer and if you get this

with colon cancer and if you get this sort of diagnosis cancer then you end up

sort of diagnosis cancer then you end up

sort of diagnosis cancer then you end up in a rollercoaster it goes down and you

in a rollercoaster it goes down and you

in a rollercoaster it goes down and you get all sorts of messages from the

get all sorts of messages from the

get all sorts of messages from the medical specialists mr. Mason you need

medical specialists mr. Mason you need

medical specialists mr. Mason you need an operation

an operation

an operation mr. Mason before the operation you need

mr. Mason before the operation you need

mr. Mason before the operation you need radiation and after the operation mr.

radiation and after the operation mr.

radiation and after the operation mr. Mason you need two chemical treatment

Mason you need two chemical treatment

Mason you need two chemical treatment and mr. Mason one more thing after the

and mr. Mason one more thing after the

and mr. Mason one more thing after the operation probably you will have a

operation probably you will have a

operation probably you will have a lifelong storm so these were the sort of

lifelong storm so these were the sort of

lifelong storm so these were the sort of messages that you get when you are

messages that you get when you are

messages that you get when you are diagnosed with colon cancer in that time

diagnosed with colon cancer in that time

diagnosed with colon cancer in that time during that time so I was really

during that time so I was really

during that time so I was really desperate I thought well I’m 40 years

desperate I thought well I’m 40 years

desperate I thought well I’m 40 years old what about the quality of my life I

old what about the quality of my life I

old what about the quality of my life I was a sportsman I swam a lot thinking

was a sportsman I swam a lot thinking

was a sportsman I swam a lot thinking about the stoma is really a nasty idea

about the stoma is really a nasty idea

about the stoma is really a nasty idea and then I decided okay what shall I do

and then I decided okay what shall I do

and then I decided okay what shall I do shall I wait as a sitting duck to see

shall I wait as a sitting duck to see

shall I wait as a sitting duck to see what happens or shall I wait as the pike

what happens or shall I wait as the pike

what happens or shall I wait as the pike for the hook to pass by or shall I act

for the hook to pass by or shall I act

for the hook to pass by or shall I act shall I try to do something

shall I try to do something

shall I try to do something shall I mobilize so I decided to do the

shall I mobilize so I decided to do the

shall I mobilize so I decided to do the last to learn what is this disease what

last to learn what is this disease what

last to learn what is this disease what can I learn from it and how can I react

can I learn from it and how can I react

can I learn from it and how can I react to it

to it

to it what can I control myself to conquer

what can I control myself to conquer

what can I control myself to conquer this disease to cope with this disease

this disease to cope with this disease

this disease to cope with this disease so I got in touch with some friends in

so I got in touch with some friends in

so I got in touch with some friends in my network I activated my network and I

my network I activated my network and I

my network I activated my network and I met a befriended pathologist and now you

met a befriended pathologist and now you

met a befriended pathologist and now you will say okay I’m gonna kill that’s easy

will say okay I’m gonna kill that’s easy

will say okay I’m gonna kill that’s easy talk of you you have a network

talk of you you have a network

talk of you you have a network I don’t well ladies I think everyone has

I don’t well ladies I think everyone has

I don’t well ladies I think everyone has a network everybody has a network you

a network everybody has a network you

a network everybody has a network you have a father you have a mother you have

have a father you have a mother you have

have a father you have a mother you have grandparents you have colleagues you

grandparents you have colleagues you

grandparents you have colleagues you have children you need to activate it

have children you need to activate it

have children you need to activate it your network you need to share it

your network you need to share it

your network you need to share it this is a network graph based on the

this is a network graph based on the

this is a network graph based on the famous theory that everybody in the

famous theory that everybody in the

famous theory that everybody in the world is just six handshakes away so

world is just six handshakes away so

world is just six handshakes away so from A to B if you enter those small

from A to B if you enter those small

from A to B if you enter those small stellar systems of human beings you are

stellar systems of human beings you are

stellar systems of human beings you are just a few handshakes away from Barack

just a few handshakes away from Barack

just a few handshakes away from Barack Obama by example so for instance if we

Obama by example so for instance if we

Obama by example so for instance if we have the network drink afterwards and

have the network drink afterwards and

have the network drink afterwards and you shake hands with me you are just one

you shake hands with me you are just one

you shake hands with me you are just one handshake away from our prime minister

handshake away from our prime minister

handshake away from our prime minister mr. button you are just two handshakes

mr. button you are just two handshakes

mr. button you are just two handshakes away from Barack Obama yeah so just keep

away from Barack Obama yeah so just keep

away from Barack Obama yeah so just keep this in mind that the world is much

this in mind that the world is much

this in mind that the world is much smaller than we think it is of course

smaller than we think it is of course

smaller than we think it is of course you have to go out you have to be

you have to go out you have to be

you have to go out you have to be vulnerable you have to share your burden

vulnerable you have to share your burden

vulnerable you have to share your burden and your worries and then you will be

and your worries and then you will be

and your worries and then you will be amazed what you will get in return

amazed what you will get in return

amazed what you will get in return so my befriended pathologist said to me

so my befriended pathologist said to me

so my befriended pathologist said to me yo McGill

yo McGill

yo McGill you need a new innovative operation

you need a new innovative operation

you need a new innovative operation technique for colon cancer

technique for colon cancer

technique for colon cancer it’s called T and E now there are some

it’s called T and E now there are some

it’s called T and E now there are some surgeons here in the room TM e stands

surgeons here in the room TM e stands

surgeons here in the room TM e stands for total mesorectal excision it was in

for total mesorectal excision it was in

for total mesorectal excision it was in that time the best operation technique

that time the best operation technique

that time the best operation technique for colon cancer it was a very neat

for colon cancer it was a very neat

for colon cancer it was a very neat technique very careful operating deep

technique very careful operating deep

technique very careful operating deep down in the belly of the patient me and

down in the belly of the patient me and

down in the belly of the patient me and important was that all this the side

important was that all this the side

important was that all this the side effects getting a stoma or becoming

effects getting a stoma or becoming

effects getting a stoma or becoming impotent becoming incontinent or even

impotent becoming incontinent or even

impotent becoming incontinent or even worse the cancer would return these side

worse the cancer would return these side

worse the cancer would return these side effects were not as bad with there’s

effects were not as bad with there’s

effects were not as bad with there’s this new operation technique as with the

this new operation technique as with the

this new operation technique as with the standard classical operation technique

standard classical operation technique

standard classical operation technique during that time so I decided okay I

during that time so I decided okay I

during that time so I decided okay I want to have this operation technique a

want to have this operation technique a

want to have this operation technique a ladies and gentlemen it took a bit of

ladies and gentlemen it took a bit of

ladies and gentlemen it took a bit of convincing with the hospital in my

convincing with the hospital in my

convincing with the hospital in my hometown

hometown

hometown to explain to them listen guys there is

to explain to them listen guys there is

to explain to them listen guys there is this TV technique developed in the US

this TV technique developed in the US

this TV technique developed in the US and it is being pilot tested in the

and it is being pilot tested in the

and it is being pilot tested in the academic Hospital of Leyden this is the

academic Hospital of Leyden this is the

academic Hospital of Leyden this is the MCAT active academic Hospital of Leyden

MCAT active academic Hospital of Leyden

MCAT active academic Hospital of Leyden I want to have this surgeon then all of

I want to have this surgeon then all of

I want to have this surgeon then all of a sudden my hometown hospital said yeah

a sudden my hometown hospital said yeah

a sudden my hometown hospital said yeah but mr. mayor we also do this sort of

but mr. mayor we also do this sort of

but mr. mayor we also do this sort of technique again I consulted my network

technique again I consulted my network

technique again I consulted my network my befriended pathologist and is that

my befriended pathologist and is that

my befriended pathologist and is that young Hill it’s not true

young Hill it’s not true

young Hill it’s not true they are just boasting it’s not true you

they are just boasting it’s not true you

they are just boasting it’s not true you should go too late so I didn’t make a

should go too late so I didn’t make a

should go too late so I didn’t make a fuzz out of it I just insisted I want to

fuzz out of it I just insisted I want to

fuzz out of it I just insisted I want to have this operation technique in light

have this operation technique in light

have this operation technique in light please

please

please and I arranged it so I went to Leyden

and I arranged it so I went to Leyden

and I arranged it so I went to Leyden academic hospital and I had an intake

academic hospital and I had an intake

academic hospital and I had an intake with Professor case vel farts he’s pen

with Professor case vel farts he’s pen

with Professor case vel farts he’s pen down and Belfort in Dutch this was

down and Belfort in Dutch this was

down and Belfort in Dutch this was discerning of this surgeon means

discerning of this surgeon means

discerning of this surgeon means well-being so can you imagine he was

well-being so can you imagine he was

well-being so can you imagine he was meeting professor well-being in person I

meeting professor well-being in person I

meeting professor well-being in person I thought okay yeah this is like a dream

thought okay yeah this is like a dream

thought okay yeah this is like a dream come true you know no everything will go

come true you know no everything will go

come true you know no everything will go fine and he was a fantastic guy we had a

fine and he was a fantastic guy we had a

fine and he was a fantastic guy we had a fantastic intake interview and he told

fantastic intake interview and he told

fantastic intake interview and he told me I’m I feel you know a lot about your

me I’m I feel you know a lot about your

me I’m I feel you know a lot about your disease you know a lot about this TV

disease you know a lot about this TV

disease you know a lot about this TV technique much more than the average

technique much more than the average

technique much more than the average patient so let’s go for it

patient so let’s go for it

patient so let’s go for it and by the way mr. maser you have a

and by the way mr. maser you have a

and by the way mr. maser you have a lovely belly operating ok what is this

lovely belly operating ok what is this

lovely belly operating ok what is this this is really a sort of plumber a

this is really a sort of plumber a

this is really a sort of plumber a plumber who comes into your hometown and

plumber who comes into your hometown and

plumber who comes into your hometown and looks under the kitchen sink and says

looks under the kitchen sink and says

looks under the kitchen sink and says yeah those pipes and hoses yeah I can

yeah those pipes and hoses yeah I can

yeah those pipes and hoses yeah I can fix it no problem

fix it no problem

fix it no problem yeah so somehow this gave me a lot of

yeah so somehow this gave me a lot of

yeah so somehow this gave me a lot of trust in this guy because honestly when

trust in this guy because honestly when

trust in this guy because honestly when it comes to colon operations this is a

it comes to colon operations this is a

it comes to colon operations this is a sort of plumber activity you just

sort of plumber activity you just

sort of plumber activity you just connect hoses and pipes and the job is

connect hoses and pipes and the job is

connect hoses and pipes and the job is done

done

done I’m simplifying it but basically this is

I’m simplifying it but basically this is

I’m simplifying it but basically this is how this surgeon responded to me until

how this surgeon responded to me until

how this surgeon responded to me until you have a nice belly we will operate in

you have a nice belly we will operate in

you have a nice belly we will operate in it so I had my operation and when I woke

it so I had my operation and when I woke

it so I had my operation and when I woke up in the recovery room immediately with

up in the recovery room immediately with

up in the recovery room immediately with my left hand I felt on my belly here and

my left hand I felt on my belly here and

my left hand I felt on my belly here and I felt a big bulb and then I realized

I felt a big bulb and then I realized

I felt a big bulb and then I realized our I have a stoma because this is

our I have a stoma because this is

our I have a stoma because this is what my lovely professor well-being was

what my lovely professor well-being was

what my lovely professor well-being was telling me mr. Myerson

telling me mr. Myerson

telling me mr. Myerson if you wake up and you feel a big bow on

if you wake up and you feel a big bow on

if you wake up and you feel a big bow on your left side you have a storm if you

your left side you have a storm if you

your left side you have a storm if you don’t you don’t have his home it’s very

don’t you don’t have his home it’s very

don’t you don’t have his home it’s very clear answer and I felt this bump so I

clear answer and I felt this bump so I

clear answer and I felt this bump so I thought okay all the fuss to have this

thought okay all the fuss to have this

thought okay all the fuss to have this operation and still I have a storm then

operation and still I have a storm then

operation and still I have a storm then someone in the recovery room came to me

someone in the recovery room came to me

someone in the recovery room came to me and he said mr. Mason how are you doing

and he said mr. Mason how are you doing

and he said mr. Mason how are you doing yeah I’m fine I woke up but I’m afraid I

yeah I’m fine I woke up but I’m afraid I

yeah I’m fine I woke up but I’m afraid I have a storm up and he just lifted a

have a storm up and he just lifted a

have a storm up and he just lifted a sheet and he said you don’t have a stove

sheet and he said you don’t have a stove

sheet and he said you don’t have a stove that is just the bandage of the wound

that is just the bandage of the wound

that is just the bandage of the wound and because you get a big wound there

and because you get a big wound there

and because you get a big wound there you know they open up your complete

you know they open up your complete

you know they open up your complete belly just a bandage of the water so

belly just a bandage of the water so

belly just a bandage of the water so just imagine ladies in amazement the

just imagine ladies in amazement the

just imagine ladies in amazement the relief I had that okay that was my

relief I had that okay that was my

relief I had that okay that was my operation so I remember vividly my son 7

operation so I remember vividly my son 7

operation so I remember vividly my son 7 years old who when I got back home asked

years old who when I got back home asked

years old who when I got back home asked me daddy do you have this this small bag

me daddy do you have this this small bag

me daddy do you have this this small bag for your Pope here because we told our

for your Pope here because we told our

for your Pope here because we told our children before the operation what might

children before the operation what might

children before the operation what might happen

happen

happen and I said no son I don’t have it he was

and I said no son I don’t have it he was

and I said no son I don’t have it he was extremely relieved as well my son was

extremely relieved as well my son was

extremely relieved as well my son was always preparing small drinks for me

always preparing small drinks for me

always preparing small drinks for me with some medicine to make my faces more

with some medicine to make my faces more

with some medicine to make my faces more soft to have more easy defecate so why

soft to have more easy defecate so why

soft to have more easy defecate so why am I telling this story to you ladies

am I telling this story to you ladies

am I telling this story to you ladies and gentlemen and it’s on health

and gentlemen and it’s on health

and gentlemen and it’s on health resilience I believe that

resilience I believe that

resilience I believe that I sincerely believe that the choice I

I sincerely believe that the choice I

I sincerely believe that the choice I made to learn to look around to try to

made to learn to look around to try to

made to learn to look around to try to take control I realized that not in all

take control I realized that not in all

take control I realized that not in all cases you can take control but in many

cases you can take control but in many

cases you can take control but in many cases you can really helps you to become

cases you can really helps you to become

cases you can really helps you to become more health resilient and there was a

more health resilient and there was a

more health resilient and there was a famous philosopher stoic philosopher

famous philosopher stoic philosopher

famous philosopher stoic philosopher Greek philosopher Epictetus born in

Greek philosopher Epictetus born in

Greek philosopher Epictetus born in pamukkala comes pamukkala in Turkey by

pamukkala comes pamukkala in Turkey by

pamukkala comes pamukkala in Turkey by the way later he moved to Greece who

the way later he moved to Greece who

the way later he moved to Greece who says external offense we cannot control

says external offense we cannot control

says external offense we cannot control we should undergo these calmly and

we should undergo these calmly and

we should undergo these calmly and dispassionately what we can control is

dispassionately what we can control is

dispassionately what we can control is our response to these events our

our response to these events our

our response to these events our behavior that is what we can control and

behavior that is what we can control and

behavior that is what we can control and that is where we are responsible for so

that is where we are responsible for so

that is where we are responsible for so that is a wise guy he’s a smart guy yeah

that is a wise guy he’s a smart guy yeah

that is a wise guy he’s a smart guy yeah I have to admit I was quite desperate of

I have to admit I was quite desperate of

I have to admit I was quite desperate of course every now and then but basically

course every now and then but basically

course every now and then but basically I sincerely believe what he says it

I sincerely believe what he says it

I sincerely believe what he says it doesn’t help if you go whining around

doesn’t help if you go whining around

doesn’t help if you go whining around yeah you have to take your life in your

yeah you have to take your life in your

yeah you have to take your life in your arms and I would like to share another

arms and I would like to share another

arms and I would like to share another definition of health with you which is

definition of health with you which is

definition of health with you which is made by mock delt ubirr mrs. Weber is a

made by mock delt ubirr mrs. Weber is a

made by mock delt ubirr mrs. Weber is a Dutch researcher in health and she and

Dutch researcher in health and she and

Dutch researcher in health and she and her team redefined health their

her team redefined health their

her team redefined health their definition is health is the ability to

definition is health is the ability to

definition is health is the ability to adapt and self manage in the light of

adapt and self manage in the light of

adapt and self manage in the light of physical emotional social challenges of

physical emotional social challenges of

physical emotional social challenges of life we saw some excellent examples

life we saw some excellent examples

life we saw some excellent examples today and if you can do that if a human

today and if you can do that if a human

today and if you can do that if a human being can do that you are healthy and

being can do that you are healthy and

being can do that you are healthy and that is a complete different definition

that is a complete different definition

that is a complete different definition compared to but still the w-h-o the

compared to but still the w-h-o the

compared to but still the w-h-o the World Health Organization defines as

World Health Organization defines as

World Health Organization defines as health

health

health which in most cases is the complete

which in most cases is the complete

which in most cases is the complete absence of disease which of course does

absence of disease which of course does

absence of disease which of course does not fit with our current societies where

not fit with our current societies where

not fit with our current societies where we are aging where chronic diseases are

we are aging where chronic diseases are

we are aging where chronic diseases are growing many cancers are chronic even

growing many cancers are chronic even

growing many cancers are chronic even HIV is chronic is a chronic disease so

HIV is chronic is a chronic disease so

HIV is chronic is a chronic disease so this definition of health ladies and

this definition of health ladies and

this definition of health ladies and gentlemen I would like to share with you

gentlemen I would like to share with you

gentlemen I would like to share with you because I believe that this is the

because I believe that this is the

because I believe that this is the future of health how are we how are you

future of health how are we how are you

future of health how are we how are you human beings able to cope with the

human beings able to cope with the

human beings able to cope with the health setbacks we have in life so

health setbacks we have in life so

health setbacks we have in life so ladies and gentlemen my challenge to you

ladies and gentlemen my challenge to you

ladies and gentlemen my challenge to you and is what will you do in these sort of

and is what will you do in these sort of

and is what will you do in these sort of situations will you wait like a pike for

situations will you wait like a pike for

situations will you wait like a pike for the hook to pass by and then be careful

the hook to pass by and then be careful

the hook to pass by and then be careful because this band of brothers is

because this band of brothers is

because this band of brothers is insistent to fish you out of the water

insistent to fish you out of the water

insistent to fish you out of the water or will you mobilize will you learn will

or will you mobilize will you learn will

or will you mobilize will you learn will you do something thank you very much

you do something thank you very much

you do something thank you very much [Applause]

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