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they are very enthusiastic

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see who is comfortable in it

middle of his chair

very well you are moving around one

little bit to go to the point again

sit a little more forward and move

apply this here and now

try it at home the viewers what is there

with you happening look what’s wrong with you

happens when I get that first two

chair legs will balance

left on those four boats

but they go straight for chair legs

balancing you will see that you are looking

goes to a focused

your body is also going to say fast looking

but to the right balance

probably your muscles will go

fine pinch to the right balance

Search

and eventually you will eventually

feel something else happens

something new happens when you get out of you

comfort zone steps something happens

otherwise in their own we same with it

mountaineering

when I go looking for the mountains as

I go into the storage something happens

news I understand a new world in me

snap out of that comfort zone and I step in

a world that is unknown

probably a world that energizes me

gives and where happy then becomes

something happens

mountain climbing is the one for me

mountaineering is for me is that me

actually discovered that

on the holiday kenya and tanzania

I was vacationing in kenya and tanzania now

backpack glue and I had in advance

looked where I wanted to go

place

I wanted to visit and I saw that I

happen to come along kilos and years

a high mountain with a beautiful name and me

thought if I were anyway

they might be nice to work with that

climb a chain and I have something extra

clothes with it

the gloves and a hat that thought

I’m just going to try and when I do

once was joined me small

group with a group are up

walked for five days the top of the

kilimanjaro I finally succeeded

Also it is nice I also like the

yesterday’s day

the one that has arrived at the top can be there

a dispassionate and what happened

I actually do not have any other

activities angle c lival experienced

something touched me there talked tom I am like that

enthusiastically so happy

it was not just poles of that summit

with as your whole trip to the that

make everything together for five days

the whole package complete

and according to me, the seed planted there

in the spark skipped for that passion

of mountaineering what

really caught

Unfortunately, after all, who is unfortunately i think

it can be explained in itself but am

I almost did not continue with it

mountain climbing time falls silent for a while

as were mountaineer but then I

Continue to travel around the adventure

beckons and I wish I wanted what I wanted

that taste stress I want I want it

feeling empty

I am still a stone countries raised the

more primitive countries eventually

with those countries with me the most

tension and most the most

foil

it must also be primitive I want

actually when I leave at morning

do not know the ‘what’s happening at night

I encountered in the path should be something

news is something unexpected again

step out of your comfort zone

that you are not used to

do what happened eventually

leading that was around 2011 2010

travel changed expel screaming

against standing small or that it is exactly

but something happened to a journey

it became increasingly difficult

traces to the adventure

Find the adventure disappeared on one or

different way i think to make it

has

I have had with introduction of

internet and cancer of wifi

This also occurred in those countries

and all those people I give on

saw the third the more and more

walked there with your ipad or with one

smartphone you with the click of a button

they could comfort elvia tripadvisor or

for the evening they could already book it or

via facebook and so she comes through them

friends if asking which nice

activities or places of interest

walking distance in a straight line

Walk is actually to that

sights something for me

precisely the adventure was because it was itself

to discover they did with one click

the button

so adventure his trainer time for me

not anymore

not with adventure what I was looking for and then

I thought of what you know

the feeling I had on those kilos of jaro

your emotion that I felt there I want

want to go back to that again

mountains there is ultimately that again

has made the start of then one

new life actually from looking up

from mountaineering

I went on track to join one

organization and reading books went on

internet search that what is needed to

mountains x times the lamp

on the bought my own expansions together

the materials

we dress shoes mittens down jacket there

all that was needed was a higher mountain

Climbing somehow I wanted

the height and I wanted to go into the air

I learned to walk on crampons every now and then

a little wobbling about that he tastes

you actually learn it when I do this

wish to try it

I learn how to move that language well

is to be stuck together and over

glacier crevasses running

admittedly the snow is blowing

yet the confidence you have to have that

you can get over it nicely together

covers

and hangs on the ropes and

result in my first snow peaks

I walked with pain in my feet

acidification in the muscles and ultimately

everything pains that I noticed

that the two couples are in you

one that says where you go this god name

nice down

even a beer is therefore about sitting down

enjoy everything why do you do that

cellophane and the other voice that

does not tell him if you pick it up

the euphoria that I get back for it

is so unreasonably much larger than the

fear and pain that you feel so continue

that conversation

let me pass the time is actually

on every mountain still come back

I know it was in the next

will happen again eventually

that resulted

as icing on the cake in that period with

preparations that had been done in the

coating of the mole importance

and at first I had gone the day

a lot of dead and I can not wrap it

once for me not reserved

in the end it turns out to be correct

prepare in the right steps that you

slowly but surely a greater comfort

zone that you now on the mouth

long can come and a walk

someone was so cool for a long time, I thought

I want to go higher again and then the seed

planted to go after each other

climbing aconcagua

the highest mountain in South America almost

7,000 meters high that day because I can do this

then I must be able to do that again

a little extra something wants to get out of you

comfort zone

See what you can learn there again

from the middle of your chair looking

drink on charisma launch look

what happens

I got the opportunity in between

by the way to go with an expedition meter

to the l bruce the Caucasus Mountains

Russia could be there mann day 9

We could climb the north edge there and

that is just an expedition style you have

a basecamp you have one side all roads

you can then close your altitude training around you

body to get used to the height

and finally to that nearly five and

half a thousand meters to climb

there are your teams we actually own

track direction that top here soccer knee

that way in that deep snow in every one

case there was that a few days

snowed

which all by itself is very beautiful is white

but you have to work much better and

do more work to take those steps

can make

and it is not fast at that height

normally as below staircase

gets up

just a few seconds above we there

at that height is at five six at the

striving for 1000 meters then it goes

all a factor 20 times slower

if you do grab hold of minute about

three meters up every time

kick your shoes in the snow

he next time in your cup next

shoe in the snow and the whole process

that very slow process also takes care of it

before you get into a kind of trance that

you can no longer think real or fast

that you always look for yourself

comes a very good conversation with yourself

take place on such a mountain

in the end, whatever happened I did

learned something on that mountain there too

happens once you walk in the sun

can enjoy everything and within one

it will turn again in half an hour

I was absolutely not up to you and you

can still see that I wear a cap that I do

just had up and no hand school to the

learned that I feel my trade or

poor

and ultimately corpse you healthy and you

you feel good in your walk through to

ultimately make sure that I have one

light to get the cooling you can one

wanting arrival there will be rain that mountain

again a lesson that is just like every one

mountain actually gives in a wise lesson

from

take care of yourself and one in the

next mountain this lesson along else

the count the top to as many problems and

things that you do not take well

that it can be a big problem

lead and maybe even eventually

also called death eventually this one

nice speaker

because that is the blandit photo for me

where all municipalities also come together

this is my own track what I am in

the throw often left you throw them learn

bank with own route all municipalities

each other connected one of the most important

things when climbing is that you 4

up to 5 months in advance before you get one

5000 Euros 60th 7000 will climb must

train

the less you train the less

fun rack on that mountain

what do you do with your upper legs twice?

especially a lot of climbing stairs

for me no more love just

Kicking it for your condition it is with

especially the walking running in it

bicycles

this is a round I often do

Gooische lakes and throw them made learning

last February

and here I want to go to each other

ready highest mountain south america on the

border of chili and argentina light that

in the other and for me this was something

where I really had that long

after looking and where I wanted to go

a flag of I actually in advance

had thought if you had years ago

you think I might be there

i had been said yet great

just as bigger of what I think now is the

mount everest ‘anyway a taxi

should I say now 9 is not

to do but I know that if I

may pass through it and with mountaineer

possibility that if you take that step

continue to make small pieces

that it should be possible

in the end you will also see one here

roll of that I lied in the otherwise

have the similar around coats throw them

learn only for something else caliber

such a round of 100 km

and where you are not two hours but two weeks

oh she does you stay 2 weeks on such

you are in the mountain you in the team

no one else and the first serve

days of the two weeks that you are sitting there

you walk that day long or valley

go

Well to the base camp to come so no

public transport are no cars there

are no roads so you have to walk with

your backpack on all your stuff that you have with you

have

loki three days long 50 km to the

base camp and in the base you can get

the time to recover a little

to leave your body that height and height

then you are now half past four and a half

a thousand for food to give an idea

what it looks like by leaders

bare in between

is to see mother because of the darkness

to it indicates that you are through the snow

Slots sometimes runs to you

head covered

you have beautiful views of that

otherwise beautiful views here and

so high in the air there is so pure

pure you very much, I’m in

the Netherlands or in a western to it

I do not think it is possible anymore

because everything is polluted by the

air pollution and then I live two

weeks in the tent

this was the view every morning if you

the zipper opened to the fresh air now

to accommodate

she had a beautiful view of it

my favorites

bed and breakfast would almost say alone

the light a bit further away

and then you go on the road from the most game

where you have one last medical chek

because otherwise in my experience

absolutely must happen

it is not that high and you go that long

moreover, 5000 meters walk because before

I only had a dac or

I liked a maximum of one day at the top

1000 meters stayed there

and now it would be a week seven days

long above 5000 meters does something with

your body

something of which I was not yet on the

height was what you thunders good

know what happens to you to list

little oxygen to all your vital

body parts or all parts of the body

provide oxygen

So everything is everything you will everyone goes

sewing vital parts but your stomach in you

intestines that belong to you

what happens to your product here as

your production is your productivity

stomach stands still in the advantage is that

therefore you have less to go to the bathroom and

at that height with that cold is certainly

judgment but it also means you

energy that you need for that

you do not want to climb that anymore

getting yourself out of the stomach gets that

Harold your food but that you take it out of you

pick up body

you start your muscles and you continue

to burn

remember that I am starting to extreme

I’m never falling off but on

that height lost 4 pounds in a week

that also does something with your body

we are going to be able to pack one can two

3

to finally reach the top eyelid

to undertake

how to say it can be extremely cold is in

the flora water bottle

I had forgotten about it

keep my sleeping bag and then freeze

that everything is liquid or batteries

has

breaks or freezes so you have to do everything

Keep in your sleeping bag

your water bottle eyeglass if you have the

app also you inside shoes

inner shoes can be that of sweat

if you walk it and you do not want it

leave the next outside intensely

it is morning and frozen and you get

cold feet

So you filled the sleep soft light with

stuff stuff you kept warm too

you could ever have a good tip

decide or so we work climbing

Besides

and then eventually walk to 8 o’clock as

you can leave from three and maybe

another nice story that happened

camp three were sleeping at 6000 meters

height

the alarm went off at 3 o’clock at night

my flashlight game on

Shone in the tent and I saw snow

my sleeping bag that is snow in the

tent on your sleeping bags that the looked

up and I also saw snow crystals

hang on the inside of the tent

then I thought I was confused for a moment

wires that exudes is the gecondenseert

inside of that ice-cold tent

we are not crystallized

snow that fall down on you

sleeping bag so I was in the snow

own breath

funny sensation eventually said

walked up eight hours and on that

making height is a lot more with me

maybe there are only six seven

moment remembering that

from the stage head or to diet of

that pathologist I was in one in one

trance and you therefore looks at the heels

of your predecessor than that for so long

runs so slowly that you walk alone

just think of something actually

finally achieved 6 1962 meters

with this watch measured and I save there

again with the same euphoria as that

kilo it was years in that other one I had

climbed only here there was something less

euphoria you can still have the adrenaline in my

body of the event that just

this had happened and of which I was mine

own death against shock because just

before I would be at that summit the

last meter still to go on a step

must put a little boy well

imagine you know two weeks

on the way

you seem to be a sleep deprivation on that

you sleep very badly deeply

you do not sleep come more from lack

oxygen in the air to decrease you

keep the flapping tent cloth off

wind force 7 wind force 8 that you continuously

waking up that night is muscle you

start eating

you are someone broken but your mind is thinking

that you are still completely at that and that

kind of crazy

so I thought I was all right

and I walked up but saw the stick

the road and I fell back 15 meters

rolled down three times over the

head I luckily had a backpack my helmet

and I lay there and I could be happy

everything rain is unharmed

I am walking back to the top

in the end, but I was so shocked

from that moment

because I thought everything went well

and that I was completely complete that I did

so well claimed

was stable and there was a good balance

and eventually it happened to me

is that it is him and you could happen

while I understand those travelers

this mountain has always been taken care of

on

literally up to and including that last step

because something can always happen

a small corner

then we will be put next to each other

the kilo mass red 2001 and this of

last February oracle cards at the

attitude has not changed much but the

equipment and experience are ultimately

I can become a lot better

say and then the question comes why

why do anyway climb so

a lot of pain when you touch your muscles

starts to eat

why do you do it then it is then

still fun I think it is also one

the right question is, frankly, because

it is also dangerous to go there a lot

people dead

climb this mountain but I think like you

everything well weighing everything well prepared

proper stuff and materials cold and it

to a minimum and I think that

the fear and danger that is not there

outweighs the luck and pigeon orie and

the experience on such a mountain and what you do with it

take back

that downhill for me are the three

things important that is freedom

adventure and honesty

Three basic value go anywhere

apply and the mountains come in

optima forma back

you give me so much power and so much

a lot of freedom adventure and honesty

the for everything it is explainable

I therefor mountain in the mountains

give him peace you also have to

forced to take it easy because is

already little oxygen that you let us

seem to head quickly to run

you do not succeed you are out of breath you

body suit the sooner and I back

think one of the most important things

we can without you here

is that there is no phone and no

internet is not a TV are super markets

in enough it’s nothing

so you are forced to it

to talk to males to play a game

I play to myself busy

from the farmer the course matters for which the

man have done that if we used

lived in a god and racer according to this

my life beyond everything is alone

but to the technique

we spend too much on technology

and water reader

live through things that you yourself

eventually all made

But that’s what it ‘s about

to have derived as emily conversation

be by one you have or by one

snap pictures and chat to you once the

conversation you have lost

so I think you learn a lot on that mountain

more aware of things

place more things perspective you bake

better choices weigh more things

everything is more intense with everything

much purer much, however, on a mountain

and for me that is the

most important things for which I do it

mountaineers alarm

and that’s what I take back with me

everyday life I conscious choices

to make

to enjoy things more intensely

that all together makes me happier

man

I realized with the mountains disney stuff

runs away so far that there are a few

with sitting that are the highest of three

continents the kilos of years of africa

at every rest of Europe and aconcagua

from South America and then coming soon

hopefully

the fourth at the bar of alaska and that

the na li and I am mega temporary

happened I had also registered it

few months ago I have last month

be given over there

selected I can join on that

climbing six people two guides

we go to alaska and the this together

together was 7000 this will lower

more than 6000 but I do offer a few more

new things that I think

interesting again a step further

my comfort zone again something new

he is a lot of rimote because he is a couple

much more secluded from the

outside world or of the civilized world

in the outside world

you’ll be flown by plane

are dropped and three weeks lateralisation

you turn up again to at least 50

I have minus 30 not 35 was okay but me

become a new dimension of wind 50 and

you have to carry everything yourself

we do not go with any poorters

mules in the 80 kilos

35 on your back and 45 on a sled hunt that

attract and you go up that mountain and

if that’s the first time I can do it

imagine that you say jemig you

are crazy

but with all the steps I made now

I have every little one for me

step just big enough for me to

overseeing I think this is a must

being able

and then there are still three to go than would

the list of the seven service off

can make

I do not have to think about it now

for me it is not about the list

because if you want to do something different then go

I was doing differently comes a path

I do not rule it out what is

there me because every new mountain or every

new activities were even in the journey

if you are going to undertake something new

brings something that I do not know in advance

certainly know if it will succeed

and if it succeeds

and that reward is exponentially greater

then the fear out there before

the difference is a lot of luck for me

that I take away and where I am a happy one

people become and there you stand

here I am on one of my first

buds

the journey made with goal achieved

looking over everything on the edge

and then to think that that started with the

first step out of your comfort zone

driven by that passion in search of the

top and then think

yourself that question the courage to be

there is a limit at the top

at my top and I think like yourself

that question

it begins the adventure

thank you

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