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so good afternoon so today I’m going to

so good afternoon so today I’m going to talk about work-life balance and

talk about work-life balance and

talk about work-life balance and work-life balance is not a concept it’s

work-life balance is not a concept it’s

work-life balance is not a concept it’s a career choice but do you know what

a career choice but do you know what

a career choice but do you know what work-life balance meets it is the

work-life balance meets it is the

work-life balance meets it is the division of one’s time and focus between

division of one’s time and focus between

division of one’s time and focus between working and family and leisure

working and family and leisure

working and family and leisure activities quite often when people hear

activities quite often when people hear

activities quite often when people hear work-life balance they think of women

work-life balance they think of women

work-life balance they think of women mothers that want to combine working

mothers that want to combine working

mothers that want to combine working with being home with their children true

with being home with their children true

with being home with their children true but they also want to work but what they

but they also want to work but what they

but they also want to work but what they find is that their job actually doesn’t

find is that their job actually doesn’t

find is that their job actually doesn’t offer the flexibility that they’re

offer the flexibility that they’re

offer the flexibility that they’re looking for so they end up leaving the

looking for so they end up leaving the

looking for so they end up leaving the workforce wanting to return a few years

workforce wanting to return a few years

workforce wanting to return a few years later but actually as I said before not

later but actually as I said before not

later but actually as I said before not finding the flexibility they need but

finding the flexibility they need but

finding the flexibility they need but it’s not only women it’s so much more so

it’s not only women it’s so much more so

it’s not only women it’s so much more so fathers man are also looking for

fathers man are also looking for

fathers man are also looking for flexibility and then looking at

flexibility and then looking at

flexibility and then looking at Millennials and generation Z they want

Millennials and generation Z they want

Millennials and generation Z they want to work remotely and they also want to

to work remotely and they also want to

to work remotely and they also want to even have more work life balance so

even have more work life balance so

even have more work life balance so change needs to happen the first example

change needs to happen the first example

change needs to happen the first example that i’m going to give you is a personal

that i’m going to give you is a personal

that i’m going to give you is a personal one I think Serena started with sort of

one I think Serena started with sort of

one I think Serena started with sort of giving a brief introduction to Who I am

giving a brief introduction to Who I am

giving a brief introduction to Who I am and my background but when I so when out

and my background but when I so when out

and my background but when I so when out before I had my daughter I was working

before I had my daughter I was working

before I had my daughter I was working full-time and I was working more than

full-time and I was working more than

full-time and I was working more than the 40 hours a week and to in order to

the 40 hours a week and to in order to

the 40 hours a week and to in order to actually enjoy life outside work I used

actually enjoy life outside work I used

actually enjoy life outside work I used to go out see my friends or I used to go

to go out see my friends or I used to go

to go out see my friends or I used to go to the gym to stay fit because I spend

to the gym to stay fit because I spend

to the gym to stay fit because I spend most of my time behind a computer did I

most of my time behind a computer did I

most of my time behind a computer did I actually have to be in the office to do

actually have to be in the office to do

actually have to be in the office to do my job no I could do my job from

my job no I could do my job from

my job no I could do my job from anywhere technology allows me to work

anywhere technology allows me to work

anywhere technology allows me to work from anywhere but my employer wanted me

from anywhere but my employer wanted me

from anywhere but my employer wanted me to be in the office and wanted all the

to be in the office and wanted all the

to be in the office and wanted all the employees to be in the office from 9 30

employees to be in the office from 9 30

employees to be in the office from 9 30 til 630 on a daily basis so change is

til 630 on a daily basis so change is

til 630 on a daily basis so change is something which is difficult people have

something which is difficult people have

something which is difficult people have difficulties with change and that’s why

difficulties with change and that’s why

difficulties with change and that’s why I decided then when my daughter was born

I decided then when my daughter was born

I decided then when my daughter was born I asked for more flexibility so I asked

I asked for more flexibility so I asked

I asked for more flexibility so I asked can I come in early leave early can i

can I come in early leave early can i

can I come in early leave early can i maybe work from home a day a week but

maybe work from home a day a week but

maybe work from home a day a week but that did not work out so I decided to

that did not work out so I decided to

that did not work out so I decided to set up my own business and that allowed

set up my own business and that allowed

set up my own business and that allowed me to work flexibly it allowed me to

me to work flexibly it allowed me to

me to work flexibly it allowed me to arrange my own schedule and have more

arrange my own schedule and have more

arrange my own schedule and have more time for my family my friends and for

time for my family my friends and for

time for my family my friends and for myself and it gave me more job

myself and it gave me more job

myself and it gave me more job satisfaction as well so when we look at

satisfaction as well so when we look at

satisfaction as well so when we look at dual income families dual income

dual income families dual income

dual income families dual income families the number of dual income

families the number of dual income

families the number of dual income families has doubled over the past 40

families has doubled over the past 40

families has doubled over the past 40 years when we look at Generation X so

years when we look at Generation X so

years when we look at Generation X so people that were born in the 60s and 70s

people that were born in the 60s and 70s

people that were born in the 60s and 70s they are used or more used or say to

they are used or more used or say to

they are used or more used or say to having women at home looking after the

having women at home looking after the

having women at home looking after the house and looking after the family

house and looking after the family

house and looking after the family looking off your family can be children

looking off your family can be children

looking off your family can be children it can be parents it can be grandparents

it can be parents it can be grandparents

it can be parents it can be grandparents but when we look at what’s happening

but when we look at what’s happening

but when we look at what’s happening nowadays those tasks or being split it’s

nowadays those tasks or being split it’s

nowadays those tasks or being split it’s quite often that within the couple the

quite often that within the couple the

quite often that within the couple the husband and wife will be sharing those

husband and wife will be sharing those

husband and wife will be sharing those tasks and responsibilities and that also

tasks and responsibilities and that also

tasks and responsibilities and that also means that man and fathers are seeking

means that man and fathers are seeking

means that man and fathers are seeking for more flexibility within their jobs

for more flexibility within their jobs

for more flexibility within their jobs I’m not going to say that that’s the

I’m not going to say that that’s the

I’m not going to say that that’s the only reason but it is one of the reasons

only reason but it is one of the reasons

only reason but it is one of the reasons why they’re looking for more flexibility

why they’re looking for more flexibility

why they’re looking for more flexibility so technology as I mentioned before it’s

so technology as I mentioned before it’s

so technology as I mentioned before it’s it’s everywhere we have the mobile

it’s everywhere we have the mobile

it’s everywhere we have the mobile phones some people have two or even more

phones some people have two or even more

phones some people have two or even more and then we have the internet emails we

and then we have the internet emails we

and then we have the internet emails we have social media it literally enables

have social media it literally enables

have social media it literally enables us to work and connect from anywhere and

us to work and connect from anywhere and

us to work and connect from anywhere and everywhere then we look at Millennials

everywhere then we look at Millennials

everywhere then we look at Millennials and generation Z they are great examples

and generation Z they are great examples

and generation Z they are great examples of what’s what I have been talking about

of what’s what I have been talking about

of what’s what I have been talking about so flexibility technology 75% of

so flexibility technology 75% of

so flexibility technology 75% of Millennials want the opportunity to work

Millennials want the opportunity to work

Millennials want the opportunity to work remotely that comes from the 2016

remotely that comes from the 2016

remotely that comes from the 2016 Deloitte survey what does that mean they

Deloitte survey what does that mean they

Deloitte survey what does that mean they see it as if they can work remotely it

see it as if they can work remotely it

see it as if they can work remotely it means that they will have better job

means that they will have better job

means that they will have better job satisfaction

satisfaction

satisfaction and it will boost their productivity

and it will boost their productivity

and it will boost their productivity quite often we hear people say yes

quite often we hear people say yes

quite often we hear people say yes Millennials they’re not they’re not

Millennials they’re not they’re not

Millennials they’re not they’re not ambitious no that’s not true they’re

ambitious no that’s not true they’re

ambitious no that’s not true they’re actually very ambitious and they want to

actually very ambitious and they want to

actually very ambitious and they want to get up the career ladder a lot faster

get up the career ladder a lot faster

get up the career ladder a lot faster than previous generations but they want

than previous generations but they want

than previous generations but they want it to be based on skill rather than on

it to be based on skill rather than on

it to be based on skill rather than on seniority and years of service so more

seniority and years of service so more

seniority and years of service so more read research has been done and has been

read research has been done and has been

read research has been done and has been proven that actually Millennials have

proven that actually Millennials have

proven that actually Millennials have been the most educated generation to

been the most educated generation to

been the most educated generation to date so what does that mean for

date so what does that mean for

date so what does that mean for employers how do they act how do they

employers how do they act how do they

employers how do they act how do they react to this let me start by saying

react to this let me start by saying

react to this let me start by saying that it’s a long and a very slow process

that it’s a long and a very slow process

that it’s a long and a very slow process but change is happening and they are

but change is happening and they are

but change is happening and they are reacting to it so when we first look at

reacting to it so when we first look at

reacting to it so when we first look at startup startups have actually been

startup startups have actually been

startup startups have actually been great employers because they’re offering

great employers because they’re offering

great employers because they’re offering better work-life balance and they put in

better work-life balance and they put in

better work-life balance and they put in place the technology needed to be

place the technology needed to be

place the technology needed to be flexible and that technology will enable

flexible and that technology will enable

flexible and that technology will enable them to actually hire people on a

them to actually hire people on a

them to actually hire people on a flexible basis they can work remotely

flexible basis they can work remotely

flexible basis they can work remotely and it allows people to return to the

and it allows people to return to the

and it allows people to return to the workforce as well as Millennials and

workforce as well as Millennials and

workforce as well as Millennials and fresh graduates to actually start a

fresh graduates to actually start a

fresh graduates to actually start a career for the employees in return

career for the employees in return

career for the employees in return sometimes that will mean that they have

sometimes that will mean that they have

sometimes that will mean that they have to take a salary cut because start off

to take a salary cut because start off

to take a salary cut because start off don’t have the big budgets as the large

don’t have the big budgets as the large

don’t have the big budgets as the large corporates do but at the same time they

corporates do but at the same time they

corporates do but at the same time they do allow them to work remotely and more

do allow them to work remotely and more

do allow them to work remotely and more flexibly when we look at them the SMEs

flexibly when we look at them the SMEs

flexibly when we look at them the SMEs and the larger corporations in Hong Kong

and the larger corporations in Hong Kong

and the larger corporations in Hong Kong or everywhere some more adapting quite

or everywhere some more adapting quite

or everywhere some more adapting quite quickly whilst others or stuck in the

quickly whilst others or stuck in the

quickly whilst others or stuck in the traditional way of doing business so on

traditional way of doing business so on

traditional way of doing business so on a daily basis I work with the innovators

a daily basis I work with the innovators

a daily basis I work with the innovators I work with the early adopters I also

I work with the early adopters I also

I work with the early adopters I also work with the followers and they also de

work with the followers and they also de

work with the followers and they also de startups the SMEs as well as the large

startups the SMEs as well as the large

startups the SMEs as well as the large corporations

corporations

corporations employers do react to this because they

employers do react to this because they

employers do react to this because they feel that they need to they want to

feel that they need to they want to

feel that they need to they want to attract and retain the talent that they

attract and retain the talent that they

attract and retain the talent that they have and also want to guarantee the

have and also want to guarantee the

have and also want to guarantee the future of their success so what are they

future of their success so what are they

future of their success so what are they doing they are putting in place new

doing they are putting in place new

doing they are putting in place new policies new strategies to keep their

policies new strategies to keep their

policies new strategies to keep their talent and to attract talent some

talent and to attract talent some

talent and to attract talent some companies mainly startups as well as

companies mainly startups as well as

companies mainly startups as well as SMEs are looking at flexible resources

SMEs are looking at flexible resources

SMEs are looking at flexible resources what what does that mean flexible

what what does that mean flexible

what what does that mean flexible resources flexible resources can be

resources flexible resources can be

resources flexible resources can be women mothers wanting to return to the

women mothers wanting to return to the

women mothers wanting to return to the workforce as SMEs and startups quite

workforce as SMEs and startups quite

workforce as SMEs and startups quite often don’t have the large budgets they

often don’t have the large budgets they

often don’t have the large budgets they look at hiring people on a part-time

look at hiring people on a part-time

look at hiring people on a part-time basis or on a project basis because that

basis or on a project basis because that

basis or on a project basis because that allows them to get senior people to come

allows them to get senior people to come

allows them to get senior people to come into the business help them grow their

into the business help them grow their

into the business help them grow their business but without having to pay them

business but without having to pay them

business but without having to pay them the salaries of the large corporates a

the salaries of the large corporates a

the salaries of the large corporates a great example of that was when a few

great example of that was when a few

great example of that was when a few months back I had a FinTech startup

months back I had a FinTech startup

months back I had a FinTech startup contacting me and they were looking for

contacting me and they were looking for

contacting me and they were looking for a CFO a senior CFO that had previous

a CFO a senior CFO that had previous

a CFO a senior CFO that had previous experience within their industry because

experience within their industry because

experience within their industry because not actually anyone in the company had a

not actually anyone in the company had a

not actually anyone in the company had a lot of previous industry experience

lot of previous industry experience

lot of previous industry experience within our database and within the

within our database and within the

within our database and within the network of flexi moms we had a perfect

network of flexi moms we had a perfect

network of flexi moms we had a perfect match a mom of two who had come to Hong

match a mom of two who had come to Hong

match a mom of two who had come to Hong Kong followed her husband for his career

Kong followed her husband for his career

Kong followed her husband for his career and she had 15 years of experience in

and she had 15 years of experience in

and she had 15 years of experience in finance and accounting and she had been

finance and accounting and she had been

finance and accounting and she had been a CFO for similar company so perfect

a CFO for similar company so perfect

a CFO for similar company so perfect match yes she had to take a salary cut

match yes she had to take a salary cut

match yes she had to take a salary cut but she got the chance to work for a

but she got the chance to work for a

but she got the chance to work for a start-up part time and combine that with

start-up part time and combine that with

start-up part time and combine that with being at home for her children after

being at home for her children after

being at home for her children after when they came back from school so it

when they came back from school so it

when they came back from school so it was it was a perfect match she was

was it was a perfect match she was

was it was a perfect match she was accepted for the role she started we

accepted for the role she started we

accepted for the role she started we were talking she’s like they’re getting

were talking she’s like they’re getting

were talking she’s like they’re getting a really good deal out of me I’m

a really good deal out of me I’m

a really good deal out of me I’m actually doing the same work part time

actually doing the same work part time

actually doing the same work part time as I would be doing full time but more

as I would be doing full time but more

as I would be doing full time but more efficiently and at a smaller cost for

efficiently and at a smaller cost for

efficiently and at a smaller cost for the company so it really was a

the company so it really was a

the company so it really was a deal from the company but she didn’t

deal from the company but she didn’t

deal from the company but she didn’t complain because she had a lot of

complain because she had a lot of

complain because she had a lot of flexibility as well then when we look at

flexibility as well then when we look at

flexibility as well then when we look at the the larger corporates they really

the the larger corporates they really

the the larger corporates they really want to keep the woman that they have in

want to keep the woman that they have in

want to keep the woman that they have in the business because they have been

the business because they have been

the business because they have been leaving because the work because they

leaving because the work because they

leaving because the work because they can’t give them enough flexibility of

can’t give them enough flexibility of

can’t give them enough flexibility of the work-life balance that they’re

the work-life balance that they’re

the work-life balance that they’re looking for so they are making changes a

looking for so they are making changes a

looking for so they are making changes a lot of companies have been looking at

lot of companies have been looking at

lot of companies have been looking at their maternity leave policies they have

their maternity leave policies they have

their maternity leave policies they have been looking at their paternity leave

been looking at their paternity leave

been looking at their paternity leave policies as well as adoption policies in

policies as well as adoption policies in

policies as well as adoption policies in Hong Kong nowadays the maternity leave

Hong Kong nowadays the maternity leave

Hong Kong nowadays the maternity leave policies or ten ten weeks which is quite

policies or ten ten weeks which is quite

policies or ten ten weeks which is quite short but companies have been looking at

short but companies have been looking at

short but companies have been looking at extending that to 16 weeks paternity

extending that to 16 weeks paternity

extending that to 16 weeks paternity leave in Hong Kong has only been

leave in Hong Kong has only been

leave in Hong Kong has only been introduced and it’s two days nowadays

introduced and it’s two days nowadays

introduced and it’s two days nowadays some companies have extended that to a

some companies have extended that to a

some companies have extended that to a week others to two weeks because they

week others to two weeks because they

week others to two weeks because they understand that if they want to keep the

understand that if they want to keep the

understand that if they want to keep the talent within their companies they have

talent within their companies they have

talent within their companies they have to do something about that other

to do something about that other

to do something about that other companies have also introduced adoption

companies have also introduced adoption

companies have also introduced adoption leave just to if we bring that back to

leave just to if we bring that back to

leave just to if we bring that back to actual reality that means that for women

actual reality that means that for women

actual reality that means that for women if they choose to breastfeed then they

if they choose to breastfeed then they

if they choose to breastfeed then they can do that for longer than the 10 weeks

can do that for longer than the 10 weeks

can do that for longer than the 10 weeks that also means that they actually can

that also means that they actually can

that also means that they actually can get used to having a new family

get used to having a new family

get used to having a new family dimension a new routine in their life

dimension a new routine in their life

dimension a new routine in their life because if you think about it when you

because if you think about it when you

because if you think about it when you join your new company you do not I I

join your new company you do not I I

join your new company you do not I I often say I I don’t think in 10 weeks

often say I I don’t think in 10 weeks

often say I I don’t think in 10 weeks you actually get you when you join a new

you actually get you when you join a new

you actually get you when you join a new company and a new role you don’t

company and a new role you don’t

company and a new role you don’t actually know your job completely within

actually know your job completely within

actually know your job completely within 10 weeks it takes longer than that well

10 weeks it takes longer than that well

10 weeks it takes longer than that well imagine having a newborn in your family

imagine having a newborn in your family

imagine having a newborn in your family that changes its routine every day it

that changes its routine every day it

that changes its routine every day it takes longer than 10 weeks so again

takes longer than 10 weeks so again

takes longer than 10 weeks so again companies have been looking at making

companies have been looking at making

companies have been looking at making this changes in their policies but then

this changes in their policies but then

this changes in their policies but then what about flexibility but because

what about flexibility but because

what about flexibility but because flexibility is really where the problem

flexibility is really where the problem

flexibility is really where the problem is laying so some companies have

is laying so some companies have

is laying so some companies have introduced flexi time what does that

introduced flexi time what does that

introduced flexi time what does that mean flexi time well they have found

mean flexi time well they have found

mean flexi time well they have found that some people because of their needs

that some people because of their needs

that some people because of their needs want to start earlier and leave earlier

want to start earlier and leave earlier

want to start earlier and leave earlier so some companies allowing people to

so some companies allowing people to

so some companies allowing people to start between HM in the morning and 10

start between HM in the morning and 10

start between HM in the morning and 10 and 10 a.m. in the morning and leave

and 10 a.m. in the morning and leave

and 10 a.m. in the morning and leave between 4pm and 8 p.m. at night as suits

between 4pm and 8 p.m. at night as suits

between 4pm and 8 p.m. at night as suits them best as long as the work is done

them best as long as the work is done

them best as long as the work is done there is no reason that this is not

there is no reason that this is not

there is no reason that this is not possible other companies are allowing

possible other companies are allowing

possible other companies are allowing their stuff to work from home one day a

their stuff to work from home one day a

their stuff to work from home one day a week another great example was a few

week another great example was a few

week another great example was a few weeks back I had a mom returned to the

weeks back I had a mom returned to the

weeks back I had a mom returned to the corporate sector she had sworn she would

corporate sector she had sworn she would

corporate sector she had sworn she would never return she had been a freelancer

never return she had been a freelancer

never return she had been a freelancer for many years because of the lack of

for many years because of the lack of

for many years because of the lack of work-life balance that they were

work-life balance that they were

work-life balance that they were offering but that employer was offering

offering but that employer was offering

offering but that employer was offering to work one day a week from home so four

to work one day a week from home so four

to work one day a week from home so four days in the office she was getting an

days in the office she was getting an

days in the office she was getting an extra day off for her birthday plus two

extra day off for her birthday plus two

extra day off for her birthday plus two days just for family events no questions

days just for family events no questions

days just for family events no questions asked it could be a child’s birthday it

asked it could be a child’s birthday it

asked it could be a child’s birthday it could be a family event who knows it was

could be a family event who knows it was

could be a family event who knows it was just two days you could take no

just two days you could take no

just two days you could take no questions asked she seemed interested in

questions asked she seemed interested in

questions asked she seemed interested in the role so she applied and she got the

the role so she applied and she got the

the role so she applied and she got the road just because she had had so many

road just because she had had so many

road just because she had had so many years of experience as a freelancer

years of experience as a freelancer

years of experience as a freelancer working with different companies and it

working with different companies and it

working with different companies and it was again it was a perfect match so all

was again it was a perfect match so all

was again it was a perfect match so all these examples show that if you if you

these examples show that if you if you

these examples show that if you if you want flexibility it is it is there you

want flexibility it is it is there you

want flexibility it is it is there you just have to ask for it and look for it

just have to ask for it and look for it

just have to ask for it and look for it because without asking you won’t you

because without asking you won’t you

because without asking you won’t you won’t get anywhere and that’s why a lot

won’t get anywhere and that’s why a lot

won’t get anywhere and that’s why a lot diversity and inclusion in has become a

diversity and inclusion in has become a

diversity and inclusion in has become a hot topic within companies and they have

hot topic within companies and they have

hot topic within companies and they have set up focus groups so focus groups can

set up focus groups so focus groups can

set up focus groups so focus groups can actually exchanged and work closely with

actually exchanged and work closely with

actually exchanged and work closely with the business and tell them what they’re

the business and tell them what they’re

the business and tell them what they’re looking for what are they needs whether

looking for what are they needs whether

looking for what are they needs whether their wishes and as they express them

their wishes and as they express them

their wishes and as they express them change is actually happening I’m for the

change is actually happening I’m for the

change is actually happening I’m for the Millennials amongst you and I assume

Millennials amongst you and I assume

Millennials amongst you and I assume there’s quite a few and it is be be

there’s quite a few and it is be be

there’s quite a few and it is be be there and really ask for that change

there and really ask for that change

there and really ask for that change because you are the employees and as

because you are the employees and as

because you are the employees and as well the actual customers of the future

well the actual customers of the future

well the actual customers of the future so you really have to help companies

so you really have to help companies

so you really have to help companies steer in the right direction so this is

steer in the right direction so this is

steer in the right direction so this is sort of

sort of

sort of an overview of how I would describe

an overview of how I would describe

an overview of how I would describe work-life balance and how it is not a

work-life balance and how it is not a

work-life balance and how it is not a concept but it is really a career choice

concept but it is really a career choice

concept but it is really a career choice thank you for listening and I hope you

thank you for listening and I hope you

thank you for listening and I hope you find the work-life balance

find the work-life balance

find the work-life balance [Applause]

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