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my first client as a professional

my first client as a professional counselor was a little girl named Marie

counselor was a little girl named Marie

counselor was a little girl named Marie she was three-and-a-half years old she

she was three-and-a-half years old she

she was three-and-a-half years old she was nonverbal hadn’t spoken a word since

was nonverbal hadn’t spoken a word since

was nonverbal hadn’t spoken a word since she’s picked up by Child Protective

she’s picked up by Child Protective

she’s picked up by Child Protective Services both she and her six-year-old

Services both she and her six-year-old

Services both she and her six-year-old sister were being treated for gonorrhea

this was my first professional client

this was my first professional client now I can tell you folks that I was not

now I can tell you folks that I was not

now I can tell you folks that I was not interested in this being my lifelong

interested in this being my lifelong

interested in this being my lifelong journey my plan was to get some

journey my plan was to get some

journey my plan was to get some practical counseling experience then

practical counseling experience then

practical counseling experience then move into a ph.d program for

move into a ph.d program for

move into a ph.d program for organizational psychology where I could

organizational psychology where I could

organizational psychology where I could learn about how to help corporate

learn about how to help corporate

learn about how to help corporate America make more money and myself too

but Marie changed that I was working as

but Marie changed that I was working as a volunteer for a sex center against

a volunteer for a sex center against

a volunteer for a sex center against sexual assault in Phoenix Arizona in

sexual assault in Phoenix Arizona in

sexual assault in Phoenix Arizona in 1981 and the organization realized that

1981 and the organization realized that

1981 and the organization realized that I had a statistics and research

I had a statistics and research

I had a statistics and research background so they asked me to take a

background so they asked me to take a

background so they asked me to take a part-time job as their data analyst a

part-time job as their data analyst a

part-time job as their data analyst a veteran therapist there knew that I was

veteran therapist there knew that I was

veteran therapist there knew that I was in the master’s program for counseling

in the master’s program for counseling

in the master’s program for counseling and asked if I would be interested in

and asked if I would be interested in

and asked if I would be interested in helping her with this children’s play

helping her with this children’s play

helping her with this children’s play group I said I would like to do that she

group I said I would like to do that she

group I said I would like to do that she explained that there were a half a dozen

explained that there were a half a dozen

explained that there were a half a dozen children in this group ages three to

children in this group ages three to

children in this group ages three to seven and all of them were for dealing

seven and all of them were for dealing

seven and all of them were for dealing with abuse of some kind various levels

with abuse of some kind various levels

with abuse of some kind various levels of extreme and that she wanted me to pay

of extreme and that she wanted me to pay

of extreme and that she wanted me to pay special attention to this little girl

special attention to this little girl

special attention to this little girl named Marie

named Marie

named Marie she seemed to be having a harder time

she seemed to be having a harder time

she seemed to be having a harder time than most so I’d had the opportunity to

than most so I’d had the opportunity to

than most so I’d had the opportunity to use things I’d learned working at the

use things I’d learned working at the

use things I’d learned working at the preschool at Arizona State University to

preschool at Arizona State University to

preschool at Arizona State University to make a relationship between Maria and

make a relationship between Maria and

make a relationship between Maria and myself I’d pay attention to what she was

myself I’d pay attention to what she was

myself I’d pay attention to what she was looking at and how she was reacting and

looking at and how she was reacting and

looking at and how she was reacting and every once in a while I’d make eye

every once in a while I’d make eye

every once in a while I’d make eye contact and give her a nice smile I

contact and give her a nice smile I

contact and give her a nice smile I treat her very respectfully and I’d show

treat her very respectfully and I’d show

treat her very respectfully and I’d show her the different options she had for

her the different options she had for

her the different options she had for colors and and all the different

colors and and all the different

colors and and all the different drawings that she could do different

drawings that she could do different

drawings that she could do different activities but she didn’t speak about

activities but she didn’t speak about

activities but she didn’t speak about session four she was becoming more

session four she was becoming more

session four she was becoming more animated and involved making more eye

animated and involved making more eye

animated and involved making more eye contact and smiling and at the end of

contact and smiling and at the end of

contact and smiling and at the end of that session that play therapy session

that session that play therapy session

that session that play therapy session they were having a sing-along and all of

they were having a sing-along and all of

they were having a sing-along and all of a sudden Marie out of the blue joined in

a sudden Marie out of the blue joined in

a sudden Marie out of the blue joined in so the first sounds I ever heard from

so the first sounds I ever heard from

so the first sounds I ever heard from this little girl named Marie was of her

this little girl named Marie was of her

this little girl named Marie was of her singing a joyful sound that touched me

singing a joyful sound that touched me

singing a joyful sound that touched me but the message really came home to me

but the message really came home to me

but the message really came home to me two weeks later I was at a street fair

two weeks later I was at a street fair

two weeks later I was at a street fair in downtown Tempe and on a crowded

in downtown Tempe and on a crowded

in downtown Tempe and on a crowded sidewalk on that particular day I heard

sidewalk on that particular day I heard

sidewalk on that particular day I heard a small voice behind me seemed to be

a small voice behind me seemed to be

a small voice behind me seemed to be calling my name but it was a little

calling my name but it was a little

calling my name but it was a little fuzzy so I stopped and I turned and when

fuzzy so I stopped and I turned and when

fuzzy so I stopped and I turned and when I did the crowd parted like the Red Sea

I did the crowd parted like the Red Sea

I did the crowd parted like the Red Sea and there was Marie running up the

and there was Marie running up the

and there was Marie running up the sidewalk her foster parents behind her

sidewalk her foster parents behind her

sidewalk her foster parents behind her and her sister they were walking hand in

and her sister they were walking hand in

and her sister they were walking hand in hand and smiling over the fact that they

hand and smiling over the fact that they

hand and smiling over the fact that they had surprised me it was delightful

had surprised me it was delightful

had surprised me it was delightful I got down on one knee and I greeted

I got down on one knee and I greeted

I got down on one knee and I greeted Marie as she got close we gave each

Marie as she got close we gave each

Marie as she got close we gave each other a hug and she just talked and

other a hug and she just talked and

other a hug and she just talked and talked about all the adventures that

talked about all the adventures that

talked about all the adventures that they had that morning all the things

they had that morning all the things

they had that morning all the things they had done all the things they were

they had done all the things they were

they had done all the things they were going to do

going to do

going to do and we just chatted there on that busy

and we just chatted there on that busy

and we just chatted there on that busy sidewalk as Marie left with her family

sidewalk as Marie left with her family

sidewalk as Marie left with her family she turned around and she waved bye mr.

she turned around and she waved bye mr.

she turned around and she waved bye mr. CooCoo doll my name is pronounced

CooCoo doll my name is pronounced

CooCoo doll my name is pronounced Kuykendall but she called me mr. keuken

Kuykendall but she called me mr. keuken

Kuykendall but she called me mr. keuken doll and that was precious I could not

doll and that was precious I could not

doll and that was precious I could not turn away I I simply could not or would

turn away I I simply could not or would

turn away I I simply could not or would not turn away from what had happened a

not turn away from what had happened a

not turn away from what had happened a transformational moment or time in this

transformational moment or time in this

transformational moment or time in this little girl’s life had happened and I

little girl’s life had happened and I

little girl’s life had happened and I was a part of it and nothing else that I

was a part of it and nothing else that I

was a part of it and nothing else that I had imagined in my future seemed to

had imagined in my future seemed to

had imagined in my future seemed to matter because I was a part of something

matter because I was a part of something

matter because I was a part of something that seemed profoundly precious and it

that seemed profoundly precious and it

that seemed profoundly precious and it has been for 20 years I worked

has been for 20 years I worked

has been for 20 years I worked delivering direct services to children

delivering direct services to children

delivering direct services to children and families who were victims of sexual

and families who were victims of sexual

and families who were victims of sexual abuse from survivors for the next 14

abuse from survivors for the next 14

abuse from survivors for the next 14 years I spent much of my time caregiving

years I spent much of my time caregiving

years I spent much of my time caregiving the most remarkable survivor of

the most remarkable survivor of

the most remarkable survivor of childhood sexual abuse I’ve ever known

childhood sexual abuse I’ve ever known

childhood sexual abuse I’ve ever known that’s my late wife Carol Jarvis

that’s my late wife Carol Jarvis

that’s my late wife Carol Jarvis Kuykendall we were married 28 years and

Kuykendall we were married 28 years and

Kuykendall we were married 28 years and now today I have a daughter that I’m

now today I have a daughter that I’m

now today I have a daughter that I’m gonna have the cut for also I provide as

gonna have the cut for also I provide as

gonna have the cut for also I provide as good counseling as I can for her also

good counseling as I can for her also

good counseling as I can for her also because she suffers from many of the

because she suffers from many of the

because she suffers from many of the same problems her mother did and we

same problems her mother did and we

same problems her mother did and we found Joey in peace in her life it’s

found Joey in peace in her life it’s

found Joey in peace in her life it’s important that you know that that there

important that you know that that there

important that you know that that there is joy and peace after such horrible

is joy and peace after such horrible

is joy and peace after such horrible ugly things can happen to a child

I’d like you to imagine now with me that

I’d like you to imagine now with me that there are children coming down the

there are children coming down the

there are children coming down the middle aisle the aisles on the side a

middle aisle the aisles on the side a

middle aisle the aisles on the side a variety of children coming onstage to

variety of children coming onstage to

variety of children coming onstage to form a line and a little bit of a crowd

form a line and a little bit of a crowd

form a line and a little bit of a crowd here facing you and these are special

here facing you and these are special

here facing you and these are special children to me because these are the

children to me because these are the

children to me because these are the children I’ve worked with or that my

children I’ve worked with or that my

children I’ve worked with or that my wife worked with oh that some of my

wife worked with oh that some of my

wife worked with oh that some of my colleagues have worked with I’ve known

colleagues have worked with I’ve known

colleagues have worked with I’ve known all of these children and as you see

all of these children and as you see

all of these children and as you see them line up behind me and fan out on

them line up behind me and fan out on

them line up behind me and fan out on both sides behind this chair I want you

both sides behind this chair I want you

both sides behind this chair I want you to see that there are people there are

to see that there are people there are

to see that there are people there are children there for various ages various

children there for various ages various

children there for various ages various races socio-economic groups gender

races socio-economic groups gender

races socio-economic groups gender identities philosophies religions every

identities philosophies religions every

identities philosophies religions every one of those things are represented here

one of those things are represented here

one of those things are represented here this is a diverse group of children and

this is a diverse group of children and

this is a diverse group of children and the thing that they all have in common

the thing that they all have in common

the thing that they all have in common is that they have been or will be

is that they have been or will be

is that they have been or will be sexually abused in their lives they’re a

sexually abused in their lives they’re a

sexually abused in their lives they’re a happy looking group they know that

happy looking group they know that

happy looking group they know that they’re here for me today the show the

they’re here for me today the show the

they’re here for me today the show the younger ones are standing in front the

younger ones are standing in front the

younger ones are standing in front the older ones are standing behind and

older ones are standing behind and

older ones are standing behind and they’re here to show themselves to you

this is a profound profession I’ve been

this is a profound profession I’ve been in for the last 30-some years it has a

in for the last 30-some years it has a

in for the last 30-some years it has a joys that I had no idea we’re going to

joys that I had no idea we’re going to

joys that I had no idea we’re going to come in the face of truly ugly things

come in the face of truly ugly things

come in the face of truly ugly things that can happen to children there are

that can happen to children there are

that can happen to children there are beauty there is something sacred in this

beauty there is something sacred in this

beauty there is something sacred in this work and I invite you all to not let the

work and I invite you all to not let the

work and I invite you all to not let the ugly truths of this scare you away from

ugly truths of this scare you away from

ugly truths of this scare you away from being involved

some of these children have bounced back

some of these children have bounced back very easily or they’re quite resilient

very easily or they’re quite resilient

very easily or they’re quite resilient or maybe the abuse was minimal but some

or maybe the abuse was minimal but some

or maybe the abuse was minimal but some of them are going to struggle all of

of them are going to struggle all of

of them are going to struggle all of their life off and on with the results

their life off and on with the results

their life off and on with the results of that trauma many of them are not

of that trauma many of them are not

of that trauma many of them are not going to make it and that’s what the

going to make it and that’s what the

going to make it and that’s what the empty chairs about some of them are

empty chairs about some of them are

empty chairs about some of them are going to die from their injuries soon

going to die from their injuries soon

going to die from their injuries soon some of them can possibly go off into

some of them can possibly go off into

some of them can possibly go off into drug and alcohol abuse risk-taking

drug and alcohol abuse risk-taking

drug and alcohol abuse risk-taking behaviors even suicide some of the

behaviors even suicide some of the

behaviors even suicide some of the children don’t make it but these

children don’t make it but these

children don’t make it but these children have and we celebrate the fact

children have and we celebrate the fact

children have and we celebrate the fact that we’re enjoying life together and

that we’re enjoying life together and

that we’re enjoying life together and after today’s presentation we’re all

after today’s presentation we’re all

after today’s presentation we’re all going over to aunt Rose’s house for a

going over to aunt Rose’s house for a

going over to aunt Rose’s house for a celebration of life party which is a

celebration of life party which is a

celebration of life party which is a wonderful thing I’d like to leave you

wonderful thing I’d like to leave you

wonderful thing I’d like to leave you with three important principles or

with three important principles or

with three important principles or points one is that there’s a commonality

points one is that there’s a commonality

points one is that there’s a commonality of purpose here today it’s whatever the

of purpose here today it’s whatever the

of purpose here today it’s whatever the divisive ‘no still Drance parents have

divisive ‘no still Drance parents have

divisive ‘no still Drance parents have had due to various demographic groups or

had due to various demographic groups or

had due to various demographic groups or races or religions we all love these

races or religions we all love these

races or religions we all love these children that’s what we have in common

children that’s what we have in common

children that’s what we have in common across all these other boundaries or

across all these other boundaries or

across all these other boundaries or borders we love these children and we

borders we love these children and we

borders we love these children and we want the best for them that commonality

want the best for them that commonality

want the best for them that commonality of purpose I’ve seen it in therapy more

of purpose I’ve seen it in therapy more

of purpose I’ve seen it in therapy more times than I can count

times than I can count

times than I can count families parents come together to talk

families parents come together to talk

families parents come together to talk about the fact that their children had

about the fact that their children had

about the fact that their children had been

been

been abused and what they discover is that

abused and what they discover is that

abused and what they discover is that they empathize with each other that

they empathize with each other that

they empathize with each other that they’ve reach across what would have

they’ve reach across what would have

they’ve reach across what would have been boundaries that they couldn’t

been boundaries that they couldn’t

been boundaries that they couldn’t imagine crossing and they embrace each

imagine crossing and they embrace each

imagine crossing and they embrace each other in their love for each other’s

other in their love for each other’s

other in their love for each other’s children and they help each other this

children and they help each other this

children and they help each other this is a powerful dynamic and human

is a powerful dynamic and human

is a powerful dynamic and human relationships second and my word choice

relationships second and my word choice

relationships second and my word choice is quite deliberate here sexual abuse of

is quite deliberate here sexual abuse of

is quite deliberate here sexual abuse of children is predominantly a man-made

children is predominantly a man-made

children is predominantly a man-made problem man-made problem there aren’t

problem man-made problem there aren’t

problem man-made problem there aren’t many men working in this industry

many men working in this industry

many men working in this industry historically women lead the charge on

historically women lead the charge on

historically women lead the charge on this issue on this cause saving children

this issue on this cause saving children

this issue on this cause saving children and giving them services that will help

and giving them services that will help

and giving them services that will help them thrive as children too many men are

them thrive as children too many men are

them thrive as children too many men are standing on the sidelines so part of my

standing on the sidelines so part of my

standing on the sidelines so part of my purpose for being here today is to make

purpose for being here today is to make

purpose for being here today is to make a call call to action for men to get

a call call to action for men to get

a call call to action for men to get more involved to partner up with the

more involved to partner up with the

more involved to partner up with the women who are leading this this world of

women who are leading this this world of

women who are leading this this world of saving and helping children have been

saving and helping children have been

saving and helping children have been sexually abused we need men in this

sexually abused we need men in this

sexually abused we need men in this equation men who can empathize and be

equation men who can empathize and be

equation men who can empathize and be kind and compassionate who can bring

kind and compassionate who can bring

kind and compassionate who can bring time energy money or political capital

time energy money or political capital

time energy money or political capital to this cause if you are involved in

to this cause if you are involved in

to this cause if you are involved in this industry this profession this cause

this industry this profession this cause

this industry this profession this cause men I salute you I embrace you I

men I salute you I embrace you I

men I salute you I embrace you I celebrate your contribution if you’re

celebrate your contribution if you’re

celebrate your contribution if you’re not involved I want you to know that I

not involved I want you to know that I

not involved I want you to know that I embrace you too they’re good men let’s

embrace you too they’re good men let’s

embrace you too they’re good men let’s become more involved let’s make sure

become more involved let’s make sure

become more involved let’s make sure that all of these children get the

that all of these children get the

that all of these children get the services they need because what we know

services they need because what we know

services they need because what we know right now is

right now is

right now is that the children of privilege are going

that the children of privilege are going

that the children of privilege are going to get the services the brown and the

to get the services the brown and the

to get the services the brown and the black children aren’t going to get as

black children aren’t going to get as

black children aren’t going to get as many as the white children and at the

many as the white children and at the

many as the white children and at the bottom of the this Gale is probably the

bottom of the this Gale is probably the

bottom of the this Gale is probably the red children we need some equality we

red children we need some equality we

red children we need some equality we need some services for all of them

need some services for all of them

need some services for all of them regardless of all the other parts of our

regardless of all the other parts of our

regardless of all the other parts of our adult equation we want these children to

adult equation we want these children to

adult equation we want these children to have a chance at life

have a chance at life

have a chance at life that’s our commonality of purpose and

that’s our commonality of purpose and

that’s our commonality of purpose and third is this we’re in a time an era if

third is this we’re in a time an era if

third is this we’re in a time an era if you will of chaos and confusion of

deception and hidden agendas on a

deception and hidden agendas on a national and world scale sometimes we

national and world scale sometimes we

national and world scale sometimes we don’t know what’s gonna happen next

don’t know what’s gonna happen next

don’t know what’s gonna happen next sometimes we don’t want to watch the

sometimes we don’t want to watch the

sometimes we don’t want to watch the news we we’re at a decisive moment in

news we we’re at a decisive moment in

news we we’re at a decisive moment in history and what I’d like to suggest is

history and what I’d like to suggest is

history and what I’d like to suggest is this notion that our love of these

this notion that our love of these

this notion that our love of these children can bring us together in a

children can bring us together in a

children can bring us together in a commonality of purpose that if we

commonality of purpose that if we

commonality of purpose that if we partner with other groups that don’t

partner with other groups that don’t

partner with other groups that don’t look like us or don’t sound like us and

look like us or don’t sound like us and

look like us or don’t sound like us and we build a relationship on the fact that

we build a relationship on the fact that

we build a relationship on the fact that we love these children and we want them

we love these children and we want them

we love these children and we want them to have a full and happy life

to have a full and happy life

to have a full and happy life who knows what else we might be able to

who knows what else we might be able to

who knows what else we might be able to talk to each other about we could take

talk to each other about we could take

talk to each other about we could take this ugly truth and turn it into

this ugly truth and turn it into

this ugly truth and turn it into something profound by talking with each

something profound by talking with each

something profound by talking with each other about how to help them

they’re giving me the eye because they

they’re giving me the eye because they know we’re close to a big finale

I thank you all for being here and for

I thank you all for being here and for all of you at home listening let us be

all of you at home listening let us be

all of you at home listening let us be brave let’s be committed and let’s

brave let’s be committed and let’s

brave let’s be committed and let’s imagine a world where all these children

imagine a world where all these children

imagine a world where all these children get their needs met

are we ready all right you remember how

are we ready all right you remember how we rehearsed it okay let’s start our

we rehearsed it okay let’s start our

we rehearsed it okay let’s start our wave okay one two three

wave okay one two three

wave okay one two three see you later alligator

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