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[Music]

[Music] I’m tired of going to work and making

I’m tired of going to work and making

I’m tired of going to work and making money for other people and who are those

money for other people and who are those

money for other people and who are those people anyways those people that make

people anyways those people that make

people anyways those people that make money from your work well they’re

money from your work well they’re

money from your work well they’re capitalists they have capital and they

capitalists they have capital and they

capitalists they have capital and they use your labor to make more capital so

use your labor to make more capital so

use your labor to make more capital so if you’re tired of going to work and

if you’re tired of going to work and

if you’re tired of going to work and making money for other people then

making money for other people then

making money for other people then you’re probably likely just tired of

you’re probably likely just tired of

you’re probably likely just tired of capitalism which is ironic because I’m a

capitalism which is ironic because I’m a

capitalism which is ironic because I’m a capitalist I own a small business

capitalist I own a small business

capitalist I own a small business our CEO tires in Compton a few years ago

our CEO tires in Compton a few years ago

our CEO tires in Compton a few years ago when I read Van Jones and he wrote let’s

when I read Van Jones and he wrote let’s

when I read Van Jones and he wrote let’s make green collar jobs in the hood I

make green collar jobs in the hood I

make green collar jobs in the hood I took him really seriously so I

took him really seriously so I

took him really seriously so I co-founded own and operate a tire

co-founded own and operate a tire

co-founded own and operate a tire recycling company and I’m really proud

recycling company and I’m really proud

recycling company and I’m really proud of what we’ve done so far we’ve recycled

of what we’ve done so far we’ve recycled

of what we’ve done so far we’ve recycled a hundred million pounds of rubber

a hundred million pounds of rubber

a hundred million pounds of rubber that’s 21 million gallons of oil

that’s 21 million gallons of oil

that’s 21 million gallons of oil diverted from landfills into new

diverted from landfills into new

diverted from landfills into new products we also employ about 15 guys

products we also employ about 15 guys

products we also employ about 15 guys mostly people of color most of whom are

mostly people of color most of whom are

mostly people of color most of whom are felons and we pay above the minimum wage

felons and we pay above the minimum wage

felons and we pay above the minimum wage and we are now proud members of the

and we are now proud members of the

and we are now proud members of the United Steelworkers union

now our CEO is not a cooperative now a

now our CEO is not a cooperative now a privately held company with community

privately held company with community

privately held company with community minded ownership but I would like it to

minded ownership but I would like it to

minded ownership but I would like it to become I would like for them to fire the

become I would like for them to fire the

become I would like for them to fire the boss that’s me and I’m gonna tell you

boss that’s me and I’m gonna tell you

boss that’s me and I’m gonna tell you why but first let me tell you how we got

why but first let me tell you how we got

why but first let me tell you how we got started so a lot of people ask you know

started so a lot of people ask you know

started so a lot of people ask you know how did our CEO come to be and I have to

how did our CEO come to be and I have to

how did our CEO come to be and I have to be really honest I leveraged my white

be really honest I leveraged my white

be really honest I leveraged my white privilege so here’s how white privilege

privilege so here’s how white privilege

privilege so here’s how white privilege worked for me and our CEO my white

worked for me and our CEO my white

worked for me and our CEO my white grandmother was born on her family’s

grandmother was born on her family’s

grandmother was born on her family’s plantation in Arkansas in 1918 she

plantation in Arkansas in 1918 she

plantation in Arkansas in 1918 she traveled with her white father west

traveled with her white father west

traveled with her white father west following the oil boom and he held

following the oil boom and he held

following the oil boom and he held various Union oil jobs jobs which would

various Union oil jobs jobs which would

various Union oil jobs jobs which would have never been given to my black

have never been given to my black

have never been given to my black great-grandfather had he lived here at

great-grandfather had he lived here at

great-grandfather had he lived here at the time

the time

the time granny became a hairdresser and then

granny became a hairdresser and then

granny became a hairdresser and then used Oh then got a loan with her husband

used Oh then got a loan with her husband

used Oh then got a loan with her husband to build their home in West Los Angeles

to build their home in West Los Angeles

to build their home in West Los Angeles alone which would never have been given

alone which would never have been given

alone which would never have been given to a black family at the time and after

to a black family at the time and after

to a black family at the time and after my grandfather passed away my granny was

my grandfather passed away my granny was

my grandfather passed away my granny was able to keep that house because she had

able to keep that house because she had

able to keep that house because she had his pension and his health care from a

his pension and his health care from a

his pension and his health care from a state job which he held which again

state job which he held which again

state job which he held which again would have never been given to a black

would have never been given to a black

would have never been given to a black man before the anti-discrimination act

man before the anti-discrimination act

man before the anti-discrimination act of the 1960’s so you fast forward 30

of the 1960’s so you fast forward 30

of the 1960’s so you fast forward 30 years and I graduate and I want to start

years and I graduate and I want to start

years and I graduate and I want to start my own business with a pallid debt and a

my own business with a pallid debt and a

my own business with a pallid debt and a credit card and no experience in the

credit card and no experience in the

credit card and no experience in the tire industry but I had what most people

tire industry but I had what most people

tire industry but I had what most people didn’t have I had a clean safe free

didn’t have I had a clean safe free

didn’t have I had a clean safe free place to live

place to live

place to live I moved in with my grandmother and I was

I moved in with my grandmother and I was

I moved in with my grandmother and I was able to rent our first warehouse buy our

able to rent our first warehouse buy our

able to rent our first warehouse buy our first truck pay our first employees

first truck pay our first employees

first truck pay our first employees because I didn’t have to worry about

because I didn’t have to worry about

because I didn’t have to worry about paying myself because I didn’t need to

paying myself because I didn’t need to

paying myself because I didn’t need to feed myself because I am the direct

feed myself because I am the direct

feed myself because I am the direct beneficiary of generations of white

beneficiary of generations of white

beneficiary of generations of white privilege now telling the story of white

privilege now telling the story of white

privilege now telling the story of white privilege is important because very

privilege is important because very

privilege is important because very often people say oh we want more

often people say oh we want more

often people say oh we want more companies like yours we want more our ce

companies like yours we want more our ce

companies like yours we want more our ce o–‘s we want more black owned

o–‘s we want more black owned

o–‘s we want more black owned businesses female-led triple bottom line

businesses female-led triple bottom line

businesses female-led triple bottom line ban the box green manufacturing

ban the box green manufacturing

ban the box green manufacturing companies right but the question we have

companies right but the question we have

companies right but the question we have to ask is where is the wealth where is

to ask is where is the wealth where is

to ask is where is the wealth where is the money where is the capital

the money where is the capital

the money where is the capital communities to build the type of

communities to build the type of

communities to build the type of businesses that we want and in telling

businesses that we want and in telling

businesses that we want and in telling the story of the white side of my family

the story of the white side of my family

the story of the white side of my family I named a dozen ways where blacks were

I named a dozen ways where blacks were

I named a dozen ways where blacks were excluded from the economy whereas the

excluded from the economy whereas the

excluded from the economy whereas the white side of my family was able to gain

white side of my family was able to gain

white side of my family was able to gain access and traction and build wealth

access and traction and build wealth

access and traction and build wealth primarily because racism and capitalism

primarily because racism and capitalism

primarily because racism and capitalism are best taught me but but what that

are best taught me but but what that

are best taught me but but what that means is that when we ask ourselves you

means is that when we ask ourselves you

means is that when we ask ourselves you know why are our communities broke like

know why are our communities broke like

know why are our communities broke like we’re not just broke because we’re broke

we’re not just broke because we’re broke

we’re not just broke because we’re broke or broke for a reason historical context

or broke for a reason historical context

or broke for a reason historical context really does matter but our history tells

really does matter but our history tells

really does matter but our history tells another story as well there’s this

another story as well there’s this

another story as well there’s this incredible book called collective

incredible book called collective

incredible book called collective courage which is the story of how

courage which is the story of how

courage which is the story of how thousands of African Americans have been

thousands of African Americans have been

thousands of African Americans have been able to build businesses and schools

able to build businesses and schools

able to build businesses and schools hospitals farming cooperatives banks

hospitals farming cooperatives banks

hospitals farming cooperatives banks financial institutions entire

financial institutions entire

financial institutions entire communities and sovereign economies

communities and sovereign economies

communities and sovereign economies without a lot of capital and they did it

without a lot of capital and they did it

without a lot of capital and they did it by working together and leveraging their

by working together and leveraging their

by working together and leveraging their community assets and trusting each other

community assets and trusting each other

community assets and trusting each other and putting solidarity first not just

and putting solidarity first not just

and putting solidarity first not just profits by any means necessary and they

profits by any means necessary and they

profits by any means necessary and they didn’t have to wait around for

didn’t have to wait around for

didn’t have to wait around for celebrities and athletes to bring their

celebrities and athletes to bring their

celebrities and athletes to bring their money back to the hood however if you

money back to the hood however if you

money back to the hood however if you are a celebrity an athlete and you’re

are a celebrity an athlete and you’re

are a celebrity an athlete and you’re listening to this please feel free to

listening to this please feel free to

listening to this please feel free to bring your money but they did it through

bring your money but they did it through

bring your money but they did it through cooperative economics because they knew

cooperative economics because they knew

cooperative economics because they knew that capitalism was never going to

that capitalism was never going to

that capitalism was never going to finance black liberation so there’s so

finance black liberation so there’s so

finance black liberation so there’s so many great examples in this book and I

many great examples in this book and I

many great examples in this book and I suggest that everybody just read it

suggest that everybody just read it

suggest that everybody just read it because it answers the question I asked

because it answers the question I asked

because it answers the question I asked earlier which is where we’re gonna get

earlier which is where we’re gonna get

earlier which is where we’re gonna get the wealth to build the types of

the wealth to build the types of

the wealth to build the types of businesses that we want and the answer

businesses that we want and the answer

businesses that we want and the answer is gonna have to be cooperative

is gonna have to be cooperative

is gonna have to be cooperative economics there’s a lot of different

economics there’s a lot of different

economics there’s a lot of different versions of co-operativism what I’m

versions of co-operativism what I’m

versions of co-operativism what I’m talking about today is worker ownership

talking about today is worker ownership

talking about today is worker ownership so you may not have heard of worker

so you may not have heard of worker

so you may not have heard of worker ownership yet but it’s been an

ownership yet but it’s been an

ownership yet but it’s been an incredible tool for black economic

incredible tool for black economic

incredible tool for black economic liberation for a century and it’s also

liberation for a century and it’s also

liberation for a century and it’s also working all over the world right now you

working all over the world right now you

working all over the world right now you may have heard of black Wall Street or

may have heard of black Wall Street or

may have heard of black Wall Street or maybe the zapatistas but I’ll give you

maybe the zapatistas but I’ll give you

maybe the zapatistas but I’ll give you an example that’s a little bit closer to

an example that’s a little bit closer to

an example that’s a little bit closer to home right now today in South Bronx is

home right now today in South Bronx is

home right now today in South Bronx is the country’s largest worker owned

the country’s largest worker owned

the country’s largest worker owned company it’s called cooperative homecare

company it’s called cooperative homecare

company it’s called cooperative homecare associates and it was founded by black

associates and it was founded by black

associates and it was founded by black and Latina homecare workers who are now

and Latina homecare workers who are now

and Latina homecare workers who are now able to pay themselves living wages they

able to pay themselves living wages they

able to pay themselves living wages they have full-time hours they have benefits

have full-time hours they have benefits

have full-time hours they have benefits and a pension through their membership

and a pension through their membership

and a pension through their membership as a unit of SEIU and these women owners

as a unit of SEIU and these women owners

as a unit of SEIU and these women owners now receive a dividend back on their

now receive a dividend back on their

now receive a dividend back on their ownership every year that the company

ownership every year that the company

ownership every year that the company has been profitable which has been most

has been profitable which has been most

has been profitable which has been most years so they’re able to really enjoy

years so they’re able to really enjoy

years so they’re able to really enjoy the fruits of their labor because they

the fruits of their labor because they

the fruits of their labor because they fire the boss they don’t have any big

fire the boss they don’t have any big

fire the boss they don’t have any big investors they don’t have fat cat CEOs

investors they don’t have fat cat CEOs

investors they don’t have fat cat CEOs or absentee owners taking the profit out

or absentee owners taking the profit out

or absentee owners taking the profit out of the company they each pay in about a

of the company they each pay in about a

of the company they each pay in about a thousand dollars over time in order to

thousand dollars over time in order to

thousand dollars over time in order to gain ownership and now they own their

gain ownership and now they own their

gain ownership and now they own their job now there’s hundreds of more

job now there’s hundreds of more

job now there’s hundreds of more examples of companies like this bringing

examples of companies like this bringing

examples of companies like this bringing up all across the country and I’m so

up all across the country and I’m so

up all across the country and I’m so inspired by by what they’re doing

inspired by by what they’re doing

inspired by by what they’re doing because it really represents an

because it really represents an

because it really represents an alternative to the type of economy we

alternative to the type of economy we

alternative to the type of economy we have now which exploits all of us

have now which exploits all of us

have now which exploits all of us it also represents an alternative to

it also represents an alternative to

it also represents an alternative to waiting around for big investors to

waiting around for big investors to

waiting around for big investors to bring chain stores or big box stores to

bring chain stores or big box stores to

bring chain stores or big box stores to our communities cuz honestly those types

our communities cuz honestly those types

our communities cuz honestly those types of developments these steal resources

of developments these steal resources

of developments these steal resources from our communities they put our

from our communities they put our

from our communities they put our mom-and-pop shops out of just out of

mom-and-pop shops out of just out of

mom-and-pop shops out of just out of business they make our entrepreneurs

business they make our entrepreneurs

business they make our entrepreneurs into wage workers and they take money

into wage workers and they take money

into wage workers and they take money out of our pocket and send it to their

out of our pocket and send it to their

out of our pocket and send it to their shareholders so so inspired by all of

shareholders so so inspired by all of

shareholders so so inspired by all of these stories of resistance and

these stories of resistance and

these stories of resistance and resilience that I got together with a

resilience that I got together with a

resilience that I got together with a few people here in Los Angeles and we’ve

few people here in Los Angeles and we’ve

few people here in Los Angeles and we’ve created Lucy Lucy stands for the Los

created Lucy Lucy stands for the Los

created Lucy Lucy stands for the Los Angeles Union cooperative initiative and

Angeles Union cooperative initiative and

Angeles Union cooperative initiative and our objective is to create more worker

our objective is to create more worker

our objective is to create more worker owned businesses here in Los Angeles so

owned businesses here in Los Angeles so

owned businesses here in Los Angeles so far the last year we’ve created two

far the last year we’ve created two

far the last year we’ve created two Pacific Electric an electrical company

Pacific Electric an electrical company

Pacific Electric an electrical company and Vermont gage carwash which is right

and Vermont gage carwash which is right

and Vermont gage carwash which is right near South Central some of you guys

near South Central some of you guys

near South Central some of you guys might be familiar with it this longtime

might be familiar with it this longtime

might be familiar with it this longtime car wash is now owned and operated by

car wash is now owned and operated by

car wash is now owned and operated by it’s 20 workers all of whom are union

it’s 20 workers all of whom are union

it’s 20 workers all of whom are union members

so you might be wondering why the focus

so you might be wondering why the focus on union worker ownership but there’s a

on union worker ownership but there’s a

on union worker ownership but there’s a lot of good reasons why the labor

lot of good reasons why the labor

lot of good reasons why the labor movement is a natural ally to the worker

movement is a natural ally to the worker

movement is a natural ally to the worker ownership movement in order to build

ownership movement in order to build

ownership movement in order to build these companies that we want in our

these companies that we want in our

these companies that we want in our community we’re going to need a few

community we’re going to need a few

community we’re going to need a few things we’re going to need money we’re

things we’re going to need money we’re

things we’re going to need money we’re gonna need people and we’re gonna need

gonna need people and we’re gonna need

gonna need people and we’re gonna need training unions have all of those things

training unions have all of those things

training unions have all of those things America’s working classes and paying

America’s working classes and paying

America’s working classes and paying union dues for decades

union dues for decades

union dues for decades and with it our unions have been

and with it our unions have been

and with it our unions have been building dignified decent and democratic

building dignified decent and democratic

building dignified decent and democratic workplaces for us

workplaces for us

workplaces for us however Union jobs are on the steep

however Union jobs are on the steep

however Union jobs are on the steep decline and it’s time for us to start

decline and it’s time for us to start

decline and it’s time for us to start calling on our unions to really bring

calling on our unions to really bring

calling on our unions to really bring all of their financial and political

all of their financial and political

all of their financial and political capital to bear and the creation of new

capital to bear and the creation of new

capital to bear and the creation of new Union were living wage jobs in our

Union were living wage jobs in our

Union were living wage jobs in our communities also Union halls are full of

communities also Union halls are full of

communities also Union halls are full of union members who understand the

union members who understand the

union members who understand the importance of solidarity and the power

importance of solidarity and the power

importance of solidarity and the power of collective action these are the types

of collective action these are the types

of collective action these are the types of folks that want more union businesses

of folks that want more union businesses

of folks that want more union businesses to exist so let’s build them with them

to exist so let’s build them with them

to exist so let’s build them with them learning from our unions learning from

learning from our unions learning from

learning from our unions learning from our past learning from our peers are all

our past learning from our peers are all

our past learning from our peers are all going to be very very important to our

going to be very very important to our

going to be very very important to our success which is why I’d like to leave

success which is why I’d like to leave

success which is why I’d like to leave you with one last example and a vision

you with one last example and a vision

you with one last example and a vision for the future and that vision is

for the future and that vision is

for the future and that vision is Mondragon Spain Mondragon Spain is a

Mondragon Spain Mondragon Spain is a

Mondragon Spain Mondragon Spain is a community built entirely around worker

community built entirely around worker

community built entirely around worker cooperatives there’s 260 Plus businesses

cooperatives there’s 260 Plus businesses

cooperatives there’s 260 Plus businesses here manufacturing everything from

here manufacturing everything from

here manufacturing everything from bicycles to washing machines to

bicycles to washing machines to

bicycles to washing machines to transformers and this group of

transformers and this group of

transformers and this group of businesses now employs 80,000 people and

businesses now employs 80,000 people and

businesses now employs 80,000 people and earns more than 12 billion euro in

earns more than 12 billion euro in

earns more than 12 billion euro in revenue every year and all the companies

revenue every year and all the companies

revenue every year and all the companies there are owned by the people that work

there are owned by the people that work

there are owned by the people that work in them they’ve also built universities

in them they’ve also built universities

in them they’ve also built universities and hospitals and financial institutions

and hospitals and financial institutions

and hospitals and financial institutions I mean imagine if we could build

I mean imagine if we could build

I mean imagine if we could build something like this in south-central

something like this in south-central

something like this in south-central the actual thought the late mayor of

the actual thought the late mayor of

the actual thought the late mayor of Jackson had a similar idea he wanted to

Jackson had a similar idea he wanted to

Jackson had a similar idea he wanted to turn his entire city into a Mondragon

turn his entire city into a Mondragon

turn his entire city into a Mondragon like cooperative economy calling his

like cooperative economy calling his

like cooperative economy calling his ambitious plan Jackson rising and when I

ambitious plan Jackson rising and when I

ambitious plan Jackson rising and when I look at WonderCon I see really what

look at WonderCon I see really what

look at WonderCon I see really what working-class people can do for

working-class people can do for

working-class people can do for ourselves when we work together and make

ourselves when we work together and make

ourselves when we work together and make decisions for ourselves and each other

decisions for ourselves and each other

decisions for ourselves and each other and our communities and what’s really

and our communities and what’s really

and our communities and what’s really incredible about Mondragon is that why

incredible about Mondragon is that why

incredible about Mondragon is that why we are dreaming about them they are

we are dreaming about them they are

we are dreaming about them they are dreaming about us this community in

dreaming about us this community in

dreaming about us this community in Spain has decided to launch an

Spain has decided to launch an

Spain has decided to launch an international initiative to create more

international initiative to create more

international initiative to create more communities like it all over the world

communities like it all over the world

communities like it all over the world by linking up with unions by supporting

by linking up with unions by supporting

by linking up with unions by supporting organizations like Lucy and by educating

organizations like Lucy and by educating

organizations like Lucy and by educating folks about the worker ownership model

folks about the worker ownership model

folks about the worker ownership model now here’s what you can do to be a part

now here’s what you can do to be a part

now here’s what you can do to be a part of it if you are a union member go to

of it if you are a union member go to

of it if you are a union member go to your union meetings and make sure that

your union meetings and make sure that

your union meetings and make sure that your union has a worker ownership

your union has a worker ownership

your union has a worker ownership initiative and become a part of it if

initiative and become a part of it if

initiative and become a part of it if you’re an entrepreneur if you have a

you’re an entrepreneur if you have a

you’re an entrepreneur if you have a small business or you’re interested in

small business or you’re interested in

small business or you’re interested in starting one then link up with Lucy or

starting one then link up with Lucy or

starting one then link up with Lucy or another organization like us to help you

another organization like us to help you

another organization like us to help you get started on the co-operative model if

get started on the co-operative model if

get started on the co-operative model if you’re a politician or you work for one

you’re a politician or you work for one

you’re a politician or you work for one or you just like talking to them please

or you just like talking to them please

or you just like talking to them please get the city state federal and County

get the city state federal and County

get the city state federal and County legislation passed that we need in order

legislation passed that we need in order

legislation passed that we need in order to fund and support worker owned

to fund and support worker owned

to fund and support worker owned businesses and for everybody else learn

businesses and for everybody else learn

businesses and for everybody else learn about our history learn about our models

about our history learn about our models

about our history learn about our models and seek us out so that you can support

and seek us out so that you can support

and seek us out so that you can support us you can buy from us invest in us lend

us you can buy from us invest in us lend

us you can buy from us invest in us lend to us and join us because it’s really

to us and join us because it’s really

to us and join us because it’s really going to take all of us in order to

going to take all of us in order to

going to take all of us in order to build the more just and sustainable and

build the more just and sustainable and

build the more just and sustainable and resilient economy that we want for

resilient economy that we want for

resilient economy that we want for ourselves and our children and with that

ourselves and our children and with that

ourselves and our children and with that I would like to leave you with a quote

I would like to leave you with a quote

I would like to leave you with a quote from Arundhati Roy and she writes our

from Arundhati Roy and she writes our

from Arundhati Roy and she writes our strategies should not be only to

strategies should not be only to

strategies should not be only to confront the Empire but to lay siege to

confront the Empire but to lay siege to

confront the Empire but to lay siege to it to deprive it of oxygen to mock it to

it to deprive it of oxygen to mock it to

it to deprive it of oxygen to mock it to shame it with our art our literature our

shame it with our art our literature our

shame it with our art our literature our music our brilliance our joy our Sheila

music our brilliance our joy our Sheila

music our brilliance our joy our Sheila let lessness and our ability to tell our

let lessness and our ability to tell our

let lessness and our ability to tell our own stories not the stories that were

own stories not the stories that were

own stories not the stories that were being brainwashed to believe the

being brainwashed to believe the

being brainwashed to believe the corporate revolution will collapse if we

corporate revolution will collapse if we

corporate revolution will collapse if we refuse to buy what they’re selling their

refuse to buy what they’re selling their

refuse to buy what they’re selling their ideas their version of history their

ideas their version of history their

ideas their version of history their Wars their weapons their sense of

Wars their weapons their sense of

Wars their weapons their sense of inevitability because know this they be

inevitability because know this they be

inevitability because know this they be few

few

few and we be many they need us more than we

and we be many they need us more than we

and we be many they need us more than we need them another world is not only

need them another world is not only

need them another world is not only possible she’s on her way and on a quiet

possible she’s on her way and on a quiet

possible she’s on her way and on a quiet day I can hear her breathing thank you

day I can hear her breathing thank you

day I can hear her breathing thank you [Applause]

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