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Financial Inclusion of India’s Unorganised Sector | Tarun Sharma | TEDxAssiRd


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over one third of people in India do not

over one third of people in India do not have access to basic financial services

have access to basic financial services

have access to basic financial services we ask to be put on do not call or do

we ask to be put on do not call or do

we ask to be put on do not call or do not disturb lists so that financial

not disturb lists so that financial

not disturb lists so that financial services companies do not keep harassing

services companies do not keep harassing

services companies do not keep harassing us for loans or insurance services that

us for loans or insurance services that

us for loans or insurance services that we do not want to buy with economic

we do not want to buy with economic

we do not want to buy with economic reform loans and insurance have gotten

reform loans and insurance have gotten

reform loans and insurance have gotten cheaper but only for those people that

cheaper but only for those people that

cheaper but only for those people that don’t want it let’s take the case of

don’t want it let’s take the case of

don’t want it let’s take the case of Asha my mother-in-law’s maid who spent

Asha my mother-in-law’s maid who spent

Asha my mother-in-law’s maid who spent her entire life working for them

her entire life working for them

her entire life working for them misfortune struck one day when a biker

misfortune struck one day when a biker

misfortune struck one day when a biker hit her and all of a sudden she had a

hit her and all of a sudden she had a

hit her and all of a sudden she had a broken ankle some good Samaritans found

broken ankle some good Samaritans found

broken ankle some good Samaritans found her and took her to the closest hospital

her and took her to the closest hospital

her and took her to the closest hospital the hospital authorities did a shabby

the hospital authorities did a shabby

the hospital authorities did a shabby job they simply bandaged her ankle and

job they simply bandaged her ankle and

job they simply bandaged her ankle and let her breathe through the night in the

let her breathe through the night in the

let her breathe through the night in the morning they suggested surgery the

morning they suggested surgery the

morning they suggested surgery the surgery would cost 75 thousand rupees

surgery would cost 75 thousand rupees

surgery would cost 75 thousand rupees that asha did not have so the hospital

that asha did not have so the hospital

that asha did not have so the hospital discharged her and asked her to be moved

discharged her and asked her to be moved

discharged her and asked her to be moved to the closest government hospital the

to the closest government hospital the

to the closest government hospital the government hospital authorities did not

government hospital authorities did not

government hospital authorities did not get to her till the next day by which

get to her till the next day by which

get to her till the next day by which time gangrene had set in and the

time gangrene had set in and the

time gangrene had set in and the suggested amputation of her leg that was

suggested amputation of her leg that was

suggested amputation of her leg that was when I got a frantic call asking if

when I got a frantic call asking if

when I got a frantic call asking if there was any way for her leg to be

there was any way for her leg to be

there was any way for her leg to be saved

saved

saved we are blessed that we have some great

we are blessed that we have some great

we are blessed that we have some great friends in Pune so we took her to the

friends in Pune so we took her to the

friends in Pune so we took her to the closest best orthopedic hospital and at

closest best orthopedic hospital and at

closest best orthopedic hospital and at 4 a.m. in the morning some expert

4 a.m. in the morning some expert

4 a.m. in the morning some expert doctors came together to perform surgery

doctors came together to perform surgery

doctors came together to perform surgery on Nash’s leg and see if there was a way

on Nash’s leg and see if there was a way

on Nash’s leg and see if there was a way to save it unfortunately that did not

to save it unfortunately that did not

to save it unfortunately that did not happen

happen

happen Asha lost her leg it took three months

Asha lost her leg it took three months

Asha lost her leg it took three months after that for the wound to heal so that

after that for the wound to heal so that

after that for the wound to heal so that we could attach a prosthetic Asha walked

we could attach a prosthetic Asha walked

we could attach a prosthetic Asha walked again after nine months during which

again after nine months during which

again after nine months during which time lakhs of rupees had been spent in

time lakhs of rupees had been spent in

time lakhs of rupees had been spent in an effort to get her to walk again

an effort to get her to walk again

an effort to get her to walk again if Asha had insurance that day it would

if Asha had insurance that day it would

if Asha had insurance that day it would have simply been a case of fixing a

have simply been a case of fixing a

have simply been a case of fixing a broken leg and the entire trauma of Asha

broken leg and the entire trauma of Asha

broken leg and the entire trauma of Asha losing her

losing her

losing her could have been prevented there are two

could have been prevented there are two

could have been prevented there are two reasons why this happens to people

reasons why this happens to people

reasons why this happens to people working in the informal sector the first

working in the informal sector the first

working in the informal sector the first reason is cash payments and the second

reason is cash payments and the second

reason is cash payments and the second is verbal agreements that are never

is verbal agreements that are never

is verbal agreements that are never documented anywhere lack of proper

documented anywhere lack of proper

documented anywhere lack of proper documentation and cash payments prevent

documentation and cash payments prevent

documentation and cash payments prevent any employment history or financial

any employment history or financial

any employment history or financial history from being created that allows a

history from being created that allows a

history from being created that allows a financial institution to make decisions

financial institution to make decisions

financial institution to make decisions about the loan worthiness of a

about the loan worthiness of a

about the loan worthiness of a particular individual lack of access to

particular individual lack of access to

particular individual lack of access to capital causes serious imbalance of

capital causes serious imbalance of

capital causes serious imbalance of power respect and dignity issues for

power respect and dignity issues for

power respect and dignity issues for people that provide us essential

people that provide us essential

people that provide us essential services hence most people do not want

services hence most people do not want

services hence most people do not want their kids to follow in their footsteps

their kids to follow in their footsteps

their kids to follow in their footsteps and working in this sector is not a

and working in this sector is not a

and working in this sector is not a career choice but a necessity can you

career choice but a necessity can you

career choice but a necessity can you imagine for a second what would happen

imagine for a second what would happen

imagine for a second what would happen if all of a sudden there were no

if all of a sudden there were no

if all of a sudden there were no babysitters no means no drivers to help

babysitters no means no drivers to help

babysitters no means no drivers to help you run your daily life the problem does

you run your daily life the problem does

you run your daily life the problem does not restrict itself to those people that

not restrict itself to those people that

not restrict itself to those people that work in the informal sector in your

work in the informal sector in your

work in the informal sector in your household the same problem applies to

household the same problem applies to

household the same problem applies to people that work in small to medium

people that work in small to medium

people that work in small to medium businesses as well

businesses as well

businesses as well the typical small business in India

the typical small business in India

the typical small business in India hires about five to six people and it is

hires about five to six people and it is

hires about five to six people and it is not uncommon for the compound or that

not uncommon for the compound or that

not uncommon for the compound or that works in the dispensary to be paid in

works in the dispensary to be paid in

works in the dispensary to be paid in cash or for the beautician that works in

cash or for the beautician that works in

cash or for the beautician that works in the beauty parlor to also collect her

the beauty parlor to also collect her

the beauty parlor to also collect her monthly salary in cash the household

monthly salary in cash the household

monthly salary in cash the household income of these people is rarely the

income of these people is rarely the

income of these people is rarely the issue a driver’s household income could

issue a driver’s household income could

issue a driver’s household income could be anywhere between 40,000 to 50,000

be anywhere between 40,000 to 50,000

be anywhere between 40,000 to 50,000 rupees a month and that is because even

rupees a month and that is because even

rupees a month and that is because even if the driver made fifteen thousand his

if the driver made fifteen thousand his

if the driver made fifteen thousand his wife might make another fifteen thousand

wife might make another fifteen thousand

wife might make another fifteen thousand and maybe they have a son that works as

and maybe they have a son that works as

and maybe they have a son that works as a security guard it makes another ten

a security guard it makes another ten

a security guard it makes another ten thousand that’s forty thousand rupees

thousand that’s forty thousand rupees

thousand that’s forty thousand rupees the problem always is when they require

the problem always is when they require

the problem always is when they require large sums of money for either care for

large sums of money for either care for

large sums of money for either care for somebody that they love maybe the

somebody that they love maybe the

somebody that they love maybe the mothers had an accident and is

mothers had an accident and is

mothers had an accident and is hospitalized or maybe the daughter needs

hospitalized or maybe the daughter needs

hospitalized or maybe the daughter needs to be married and for that they need

to be married and for that they need

to be married and for that they need money the source of the borrower is the

money the source of the borrower is the

money the source of the borrower is the problem it’s often the loan shark in the

problem it’s often the loan shark in the

problem it’s often the loan shark in the locality that is giving them this money

locality that is giving them this money

locality that is giving them this money at huge interest rates maybe one hundred

at huge interest rates maybe one hundred

at huge interest rates maybe one hundred and eighty percent a year maybe two

and eighty percent a year maybe two

and eighty percent a year maybe two hundred and forty percent a year we tend

hundred and forty percent a year we tend

hundred and forty percent a year we tend to take loans at less than ten percent

to take loans at less than ten percent

to take loans at less than ten percent the government has done a superb job of

the government has done a superb job of

the government has done a superb job of putting together a lot of initiatives to

putting together a lot of initiatives to

putting together a lot of initiatives to be able to

be able to

be able to right services to them for example the

right services to them for example the

right services to them for example the pradhan mantri Avenue Gena allows for

pradhan mantri Avenue Gena allows for

pradhan mantri Avenue Gena allows for affordable housing but it has

affordable housing but it has

affordable housing but it has restrictions on how much money can be

restrictions on how much money can be

restrictions on how much money can be borrowed which is really sad because if

borrowed which is really sad because if

borrowed which is really sad because if you really take a look at the amount of

you really take a look at the amount of

you really take a look at the amount of money that can be borrowed against

money that can be borrowed against

money that can be borrowed against somebody that makes 40,000 to 50,000

somebody that makes 40,000 to 50,000

somebody that makes 40,000 to 50,000 rupees a month their creditworthiness

rupees a month their creditworthiness

rupees a month their creditworthiness could be as much as 40 to 50 lakh rupees

could be as much as 40 to 50 lakh rupees

could be as much as 40 to 50 lakh rupees but yet they are restricted and buying a

but yet they are restricted and buying a

but yet they are restricted and buying a house that might be maybe what six lakh

house that might be maybe what six lakh

house that might be maybe what six lakh rupees maybe 10 lakh rupees when you

rupees maybe 10 lakh rupees when you

rupees maybe 10 lakh rupees when you start looking at the differences between

start looking at the differences between

start looking at the differences between people that work in formal sector and

people that work in formal sector and

people that work in formal sector and get calls from financial institutions to

get calls from financial institutions to

get calls from financial institutions to the point of harassment versus people

the point of harassment versus people

the point of harassment versus people working in the informal sector that

working in the informal sector that

working in the informal sector that struggle for small amounts of money

struggle for small amounts of money

struggle for small amounts of money you’ll find that there is a very small

you’ll find that there is a very small

you’ll find that there is a very small difference and the difference really is

difference and the difference really is

difference and the difference really is the documentation and the presence of a

the documentation and the presence of a

the documentation and the presence of a balance sheet for somebody working in

balance sheet for somebody working in

balance sheet for somebody working in operate an employee working for a

operate an employee working for a

operate an employee working for a company has three very important records

company has three very important records

company has three very important records number one an employment contract number

number one an employment contract number

number one an employment contract number two a salary slip that is accompanied by

two a salary slip that is accompanied by

two a salary slip that is accompanied by a direct deposit in a bank and number

a direct deposit in a bank and number

a direct deposit in a bank and number three a credit score by a recognised

three a credit score by a recognised

three a credit score by a recognised credit bureau that establishes him or

credit bureau that establishes him or

credit bureau that establishes him or her as a responsible borough this

her as a responsible borough this

her as a responsible borough this records or these three things put

records or these three things put

records or these three things put together establishes the risk associated

together establishes the risk associated

together establishes the risk associated with giving that person alone

with giving that person alone

with giving that person alone unfortunately people working in the

unfortunately people working in the

unfortunately people working in the informal sector do not have any of these

informal sector do not have any of these

informal sector do not have any of these three they do not have a agreement that

three they do not have a agreement that

three they do not have a agreement that is documented equivalent of an

is documented equivalent of an

is documented equivalent of an employment contract they do not have

employment contract they do not have

employment contract they do not have invoices or receipts that could be the

invoices or receipts that could be the

invoices or receipts that could be the equivalent of a salary slip and they

equivalent of a salary slip and they

equivalent of a salary slip and they definitely do not have any records in a

definitely do not have any records in a

definitely do not have any records in a credit bureau because most of the loans

credit bureau because most of the loans

credit bureau because most of the loans that they have taken are typically from

that they have taken are typically from

that they have taken are typically from individuals or loan sharks and borrowing

individuals or loan sharks and borrowing

individuals or loan sharks and borrowing money from these and repayment of these

money from these and repayment of these

money from these and repayment of these loans do not make that entries into

loans do not make that entries into

loans do not make that entries into those credit bureaus as a result they do

those credit bureaus as a result they do

those credit bureaus as a result they do not get access to the financial services

not get access to the financial services

not get access to the financial services that we normally take for granted when

that we normally take for granted when

that we normally take for granted when we realize that that was the crux of the

we realize that that was the crux of the

we realize that that was the crux of the problem we hit upon a very simple idea

problem we hit upon a very simple idea

problem we hit upon a very simple idea if we could mimic those corporate best

if we could mimic those corporate best

if we could mimic those corporate best practices in the informal sector then

practices in the informal sector then

practices in the informal sector then people in the informal sector could be

people in the informal sector could be

people in the informal sector could be brought into the financial inclusion

brought into the financial inclusion

brought into the financial inclusion agenda of this country the

agenda of this country the

agenda of this country the infrastructure required to build systems

infrastructure required to build systems

infrastructure required to build systems like these was already starting

like these was already starting

like these was already starting to fall in place through the Jan Trinity

to fall in place through the Jan Trinity

to fall in place through the Jan Trinity the Jonathan yogena account allows

the Jonathan yogena account allows

the Jonathan yogena account allows everybody to have a bank account through

everybody to have a bank account through

everybody to have a bank account through which you could make payments digitally

which you could make payments digitally

which you could make payments digitally into those accounts number two add her

into those accounts number two add her

into those accounts number two add her which is allowed us to establish an

which is allowed us to establish an

which is allowed us to establish an identity for a person and minimize fraud

identity for a person and minimize fraud

identity for a person and minimize fraud and the third element is the mobile

and the third element is the mobile

and the third element is the mobile phone every household has one there is

phone every household has one there is

phone every household has one there is at least one digital literate in every

at least one digital literate in every

at least one digital literate in every household that means apps can be built

household that means apps can be built

household that means apps can be built for people that work in the informal

for people that work in the informal

for people that work in the informal sector to allow for self-service to

sector to allow for self-service to

sector to allow for self-service to happen as well as using the mobile phone

happen as well as using the mobile phone

happen as well as using the mobile phone was starting to get cheaper and cheaper

was starting to get cheaper and cheaper

was starting to get cheaper and cheaper by the day

by the day

by the day that was when we decided to start a

that was when we decided to start a

that was when we decided to start a company named served that would bring

company named served that would bring

company named served that would bring financial services and eventually

financial services and eventually

financial services and eventually respect dignity and ambition to people

respect dignity and ambition to people

respect dignity and ambition to people that have been largely invisible and

that have been largely invisible and

that have been largely invisible and hence subconsciously ignored by all of

hence subconsciously ignored by all of

hence subconsciously ignored by all of us sir looks at people working in the

us sir looks at people working in the

us sir looks at people working in the informal sector as individual

informal sector as individual

informal sector as individual entrepreneurs and refers to them as

entrepreneurs and refers to them as

entrepreneurs and refers to them as service providers and people that

service providers and people that

service providers and people that consume their services as service

consume their services as service

consume their services as service consumers so as an example the housewife

consumers so as an example the housewife

consumers so as an example the housewife in a household context is the service

in a household context is the service

in a household context is the service consumer and the maid is a service

consumer and the maid is a service

consumer and the maid is a service provider similarly in the small to

provider similarly in the small to

provider similarly in the small to medium business context the beauty

medium business context the beauty

medium business context the beauty parlor owner is the service consumer and

parlor owner is the service consumer and

parlor owner is the service consumer and the beautician is the service provider

the beautician is the service provider

the beautician is the service provider by using terminology such a service

by using terminology such a service

by using terminology such a service provider and service consumer we level

provider and service consumer we level

provider and service consumer we level the playing field and establish the two

the playing field and establish the two

the playing field and establish the two parties as business entities that want

parties as business entities that want

parties as business entities that want to transact business together

to transact business together

to transact business together the second step in any of such

the second step in any of such

the second step in any of such transactions is the establishment of a

transactions is the establishment of a

transactions is the establishment of a contract or the terms of engagement

contract or the terms of engagement

contract or the terms of engagement which establishes what is one party

which establishes what is one party

which establishes what is one party going to do in return for what that

going to do in return for what that

going to do in return for what that contract or those terms of engagement

contract or those terms of engagement

contract or those terms of engagement become the governing framework for

become the governing framework for

become the governing framework for financial transactions that arise from

financial transactions that arise from

financial transactions that arise from the business transactions of services

the business transactions of services

the business transactions of services being given to service consumers the

being given to service consumers the

being given to service consumers the terms of engagement do not have to be

terms of engagement do not have to be

terms of engagement do not have to be onerous they can be as simple as let’s

onerous they can be as simple as let’s

onerous they can be as simple as let’s say say we were trying to set up a

say say we were trying to set up a

say say we were trying to set up a contract for the driver the terms of

contract for the driver the terms of

contract for the driver the terms of engagement would simply say that the

engagement would simply say that the

engagement would simply say that the driver works for eight hours a day six

driver works for eight hours a day six

driver works for eight hours a day six days a week and gets a salary of fifteen

days a week and gets a salary of fifteen

days a week and gets a salary of fifteen thousand rupees

thousand rupees

thousand rupees in addition we may want to call out

in addition we may want to call out

in addition we may want to call out certain perk visits like maybe we

certain perk visits like maybe we

certain perk visits like maybe we reimburse the school fees for the

reimburse the school fees for the

reimburse the school fees for the drivers kids or we get them clothes or

drivers kids or we get them clothes or

drivers kids or we get them clothes or gifts during Diwali it can be as simple

gifts during Diwali it can be as simple

gifts during Diwali it can be as simple as that we could also include other

as that we could also include other

as that we could also include other terms like health insurance it is our

terms like health insurance it is our

terms like health insurance it is our belief that we must provide health

belief that we must provide health

belief that we must provide health insurance to people that work in our

insurance to people that work in our

insurance to people that work in our household simply because these are

household simply because these are

household simply because these are unspoken expectations from the service

unspoken expectations from the service

unspoken expectations from the service provider in any case even if you did not

provider in any case even if you did not

provider in any case even if you did not agree explicitly to give the driver

agree explicitly to give the driver

agree explicitly to give the driver health insurance when someone in the

health insurance when someone in the

health insurance when someone in the family falls ill the drivers first

family falls ill the drivers first

family falls ill the drivers first choice is to go to the people he works

choice is to go to the people he works

choice is to go to the people he works for with an expectation that they would

for with an expectation that they would

for with an expectation that they would pick up the hospital bill this sometimes

pick up the hospital bill this sometimes

pick up the hospital bill this sometimes as a source of friction between a

as a source of friction between a

as a source of friction between a service consumer and a service provider

service consumer and a service provider

service consumer and a service provider because these types of terms are never

because these types of terms are never

because these types of terms are never discussed when the engagement begins

discussed when the engagement begins

discussed when the engagement begins once the contract has been established

once the contract has been established

once the contract has been established the system generates invoices for

the system generates invoices for

the system generates invoices for services provided based on the billing

services provided based on the billing

services provided based on the billing terms that you have agreed upon so

terms that you have agreed upon so

terms that you have agreed upon so perhaps on the first of every month and

perhaps on the first of every month and

perhaps on the first of every month and invoice gets generated by the system

invoice gets generated by the system

invoice gets generated by the system from the driver and sent to the service

from the driver and sent to the service

from the driver and sent to the service consumer the money is then paid

consumer the money is then paid

consumer the money is then paid electronically using any of the payment

electronically using any of the payment

electronically using any of the payment systems of your choice the service

systems of your choice the service

systems of your choice the service consumers choice credit card debit card

consumers choice credit card debit card

consumers choice credit card debit card UPI

UPI

UPI net banking but the money always makes

net banking but the money always makes

net banking but the money always makes it directly into the bank account of the

it directly into the bank account of the

it directly into the bank account of the particular service provider the system

particular service provider the system

particular service provider the system then generates a receipt and sends it

then generates a receipt and sends it

then generates a receipt and sends it out to both parties this very simple act

out to both parties this very simple act

out to both parties this very simple act of generating invoices and receipts and

of generating invoices and receipts and

of generating invoices and receipts and putting the money digitally into the

putting the money digitally into the

putting the money digitally into the bank account of the service consumer

bank account of the service consumer

bank account of the service consumer changes everything for them when you see

changes everything for them when you see

changes everything for them when you see the simple act repeated over time things

the simple act repeated over time things

the simple act repeated over time things change dramatically for the service

change dramatically for the service

change dramatically for the service provider the direct deposit in the bank

provider the direct deposit in the bank

provider the direct deposit in the bank with three pieces of documentation

with three pieces of documentation

with three pieces of documentation supporting the transaction an invoice a

supporting the transaction an invoice a

supporting the transaction an invoice a receipt and the contract establishes the

receipt and the contract establishes the

receipt and the contract establishes the legitimacy of the transaction this gives

legitimacy of the transaction this gives

legitimacy of the transaction this gives the bank intelligence into the

the bank intelligence into the

the bank intelligence into the financials of the service provider it’s

financials of the service provider it’s

financials of the service provider it’s the beginning of the future balance

the beginning of the future balance

the beginning of the future balance sheet that will allow the service

sheet that will allow the service

sheet that will allow the service providers to take loans at a reasonable

providers to take loans at a reasonable

providers to take loans at a reasonable price

price

price this will also establish an employment

this will also establish an employment

this will also establish an employment history over time for the service

history over time for the service

history over time for the service provider served uses a mobile platform

provider served uses a mobile platform

provider served uses a mobile platform to allow all these interactions to

to allow all these interactions to

to allow all these interactions to happen between the service provider and

happen between the service provider and

happen between the service provider and the service consumer and help them

the service consumer and help them

the service consumer and help them secure their future despite the direct

secure their future despite the direct

secure their future despite the direct deposits the service providers may not

deposits the service providers may not

deposits the service providers may not be eligible for a loan because of a

be eligible for a loan because of a

be eligible for a loan because of a critical missing record the credit score

critical missing record the credit score

critical missing record the credit score the record of current liabilities and

the record of current liabilities and

the record of current liabilities and previous loan repayments that

previous loan repayments that

previous loan repayments that establishes them as responsible

establishes them as responsible

establishes them as responsible borrowers in a credit bureau to solve

borrowers in a credit bureau to solve

borrowers in a credit bureau to solve that problem we need to educate about

that problem we need to educate about

that problem we need to educate about how credit works

how credit works

how credit works followed by disbursements of small loans

followed by disbursements of small loans

followed by disbursements of small loans that we help them repay back and start

that we help them repay back and start

that we help them repay back and start to build records in the credit bureau

to build records in the credit bureau

to build records in the credit bureau over a period of time loans and

over a period of time loans and

over a period of time loans and successful repayments of them to

successful repayments of them to

successful repayments of them to individuals or to loan sharks do nothing

individuals or to loan sharks do nothing

individuals or to loan sharks do nothing for the borrower’s ability simply

for the borrower’s ability simply

for the borrower’s ability simply because those repayment do not get

because those repayment do not get

because those repayment do not get captured in a formal credit bureau the

captured in a formal credit bureau the

captured in a formal credit bureau the third part of the equation is preventing

third part of the equation is preventing

third part of the equation is preventing people from the informal sector from

people from the informal sector from

people from the informal sector from getting caught in that loan spiral

getting caught in that loan spiral

getting caught in that loan spiral several times the reason for them taking

several times the reason for them taking

several times the reason for them taking loans has to do with the health issue

loans has to do with the health issue

loans has to do with the health issue for themselves or someone that they love

for themselves or someone that they love

for themselves or someone that they love in the family this can be avoided by

in the family this can be avoided by

in the family this can be avoided by getting them private health insurance

getting them private health insurance

getting them private health insurance well there are several government

well there are several government

well there are several government schemes that offer cheap insurance they

schemes that offer cheap insurance they

schemes that offer cheap insurance they do not always have the best services and

do not always have the best services and

do not always have the best services and the service providers do not understand

the service providers do not understand

the service providers do not understand the need for insurance nor do they trust

the need for insurance nor do they trust

the need for insurance nor do they trust the government hospitals as we found out

the government hospitals as we found out

the government hospitals as we found out in the case of Asha insurance companies

in the case of Asha insurance companies

in the case of Asha insurance companies – do not want to insure people that are

– do not want to insure people that are

– do not want to insure people that are working in the informal sector they do

working in the informal sector they do

working in the informal sector they do not find it profitable for three reasons

not find it profitable for three reasons

not find it profitable for three reasons one they believe that there is too much

one they believe that there is too much

one they believe that there is too much fraud in the system number two they have

fraud in the system number two they have

fraud in the system number two they have a question on the ability or the will to

a question on the ability or the will to

a question on the ability or the will to pay premiums and number three there is a

pay premiums and number three there is a

pay premiums and number three there is a significant belief that people that work

significant belief that people that work

significant belief that people that work in the informal sector tend to live in

in the informal sector tend to live in

in the informal sector tend to live in conditions that make them fall ill a lot

conditions that make them fall ill a lot

conditions that make them fall ill a lot more hence the claim ratio is pretty

more hence the claim ratio is pretty

more hence the claim ratio is pretty high we should worry too much about the

high we should worry too much about the

high we should worry too much about the premiums because just like corporates we

premiums because just like corporates we

premiums because just like corporates we believe that the service consumers must

believe that the service consumers must

believe that the service consumers must pay the premiums for the service

pay the premiums for the service

pay the premiums for the service providers it isn’t that best interest to

providers it isn’t that best interest to

providers it isn’t that best interest to do so because there is this unset

do so because there is this unset

do so because there is this unset expectation from

expectation from

expectation from service provider that the service

service provider that the service

service provider that the service consumer will take care of them and

consumer will take care of them and

consumer will take care of them and their families in times of need as far

their families in times of need as far

their families in times of need as far as fraud is concerned there is no data

as fraud is concerned there is no data

as fraud is concerned there is no data that supports that more fraud exists in

that supports that more fraud exists in

that supports that more fraud exists in people that work in the informal sector

people that work in the informal sector

people that work in the informal sector than people that work in the formal

than people that work in the formal

than people that work in the formal sector case in point

sector case in point

sector case in point microfinance it perhaps has the least

microfinance it perhaps has the least

microfinance it perhaps has the least rate of defaults compared to other loans

rate of defaults compared to other loans

rate of defaults compared to other loans from traditional financial institutions

from traditional financial institutions

from traditional financial institutions they know the value of the service

they know the value of the service

they know the value of the service because the service going away means the

because the service going away means the

because the service going away means the reversal in the life ambitions finally

reversal in the life ambitions finally

reversal in the life ambitions finally most of the people in the informal

most of the people in the informal

most of the people in the informal sector tend to work right till the end

sector tend to work right till the end

sector tend to work right till the end because they do not have any retirement

because they do not have any retirement

because they do not have any retirement plans or savings they tend to think of

plans or savings they tend to think of

plans or savings they tend to think of the children as insurance for that old

the children as insurance for that old

the children as insurance for that old age which does not always pan out the

age which does not always pan out the

age which does not always pan out the way they imagined it to be and that is

way they imagined it to be and that is

way they imagined it to be and that is where a significant amount of respect

where a significant amount of respect

where a significant amount of respect and dignity issues come into play in the

and dignity issues come into play in the

and dignity issues come into play in the informal sector it is very likely that

informal sector it is very likely that

informal sector it is very likely that we will have a serious shortage of

we will have a serious shortage of

we will have a serious shortage of service staff in a decade from now

service staff in a decade from now

service staff in a decade from now unless we make this a choice just like

unless we make this a choice just like

unless we make this a choice just like corporates provide gratuity benefits or

corporates provide gratuity benefits or

corporates provide gratuity benefits or retirement benefits it is incumbent upon

retirement benefits it is incumbent upon

retirement benefits it is incumbent upon us to enroll service providers in

us to enroll service providers in

us to enroll service providers in schemes that secure the golden years it

schemes that secure the golden years it

schemes that secure the golden years it is heartening for us to see several

is heartening for us to see several

is heartening for us to see several not-for-profits and government

not-for-profits and government

not-for-profits and government initiatives come together to deal with

initiatives come together to deal with

initiatives come together to deal with this problem such as perhaps gift a

this problem such as perhaps gift a

this problem such as perhaps gift a pension which is an NGO working towards

pension which is an NGO working towards

pension which is an NGO working towards that cause I want to sum up my

that cause I want to sum up my

that cause I want to sum up my presentation by acknowledging the winds

presentation by acknowledging the winds

presentation by acknowledging the winds of change the government NGOs and social

of change the government NGOs and social

of change the government NGOs and social impact companies are working together

impact companies are working together

impact companies are working together for financial inclusion of the

for financial inclusion of the

for financial inclusion of the underserved but it takes two to tango

underserved but it takes two to tango

underserved but it takes two to tango without participation of people these

without participation of people these

without participation of people these initiatives are likely to fail a

initiatives are likely to fail a

initiatives are likely to fail a contract cannot be created between the

contract cannot be created between the

contract cannot be created between the service provider and the service

service provider and the service

service provider and the service consumer with interest only from one

consumer with interest only from one

consumer with interest only from one party we must rise from what’s in it for

party we must rise from what’s in it for

party we must rise from what’s in it for me attitude and giving only at charity

me attitude and giving only at charity

me attitude and giving only at charity balls charity begins at home change

balls charity begins at home change

balls charity begins at home change begins at home

begins at home

begins at home change begins with us change begins with

change begins with us change begins with

change begins with us change begins with people around us change begins with

people around us change begins with

people around us change begins with serving the under

serving the under

serving the under served let’s do our bit to bring people

served let’s do our bit to bring people

served let’s do our bit to bring people like Asha into the financial inclusion

like Asha into the financial inclusion

like Asha into the financial inclusion agenda of this great nation with that

agenda of this great nation with that

agenda of this great nation with that I’m going to sum up my speech thank you

I’m going to sum up my speech thank you

I’m going to sum up my speech thank you for your time and attention this is

for your time and attention this is

for your time and attention this is Tarun Sharma signing off from TEDx a

Tarun Sharma signing off from TEDx a

Tarun Sharma signing off from TEDx a civil

civil

civil [Applause]

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