one of the greatest goals in my life as a fish nerd was to learn and take what I
a fish nerd was to learn and take what I
a fish nerd was to learn and take what I learned from university and try and save
learned from university and try and save
learned from university and try and save the world’s oceans I’m pretty optimistic
the world’s oceans I’m pretty optimistic
the world’s oceans I’m pretty optimistic but my first job in Gabon had nothing to
but my first job in Gabon had nothing to
but my first job in Gabon had nothing to do with being a fish nerd
do with being a fish nerd
do with being a fish nerd how’s the skipper on board a patrol
how’s the skipper on board a patrol
how’s the skipper on board a patrol vessel and confronting illegal fisheries
vessel and confronting illegal fisheries
vessel and confronting illegal fisheries every single day and absolute there’s
every single day and absolute there’s
every single day and absolute there’s more condition these poor fishermen
more condition these poor fishermen
more condition these poor fishermen living on his business I started to
living on his business I started to
living on his business I started to question what the science I was doing
question what the science I was doing
question what the science I was doing and believing in really meant and I
and believing in really meant and I
and believing in really meant and I started grappling with the idea of like
started grappling with the idea of like
started grappling with the idea of like trying to conceptualize what these guys
trying to conceptualize what these guys
trying to conceptualize what these guys were going through and I started
were going through and I started
were going through and I started thinking more and more about illegal
thinking more and more about illegal
thinking more and more about illegal fishing and how it impacts everything
fishing and how it impacts everything
fishing and how it impacts everything and my whole life I’ve been taught what
and my whole life I’ve been taught what
and my whole life I’ve been taught what defines a fish when maybe I should be
defines a fish when maybe I should be
defines a fish when maybe I should be understanding what a fish represents
understanding what a fish represents
understanding what a fish represents hopes dreams cutters livelihoods and the
hopes dreams cutters livelihoods and the
hopes dreams cutters livelihoods and the very reason these guys are living in
very reason these guys are living in
very reason these guys are living in horrific conditions on these fishing
horrific conditions on these fishing
horrific conditions on these fishing vessels and then I started to think to
vessels and then I started to think to
vessels and then I started to think to myself if I got out to measure another
myself if I got out to measure another
myself if I got out to measure another little fishy has that really got to make
little fishy has that really got to make
little fishy has that really got to make a contribution to saving the world’s
a contribution to saving the world’s
a contribution to saving the world’s oceans from some of today’s challenges
oceans from some of today’s challenges
oceans from some of today’s challenges and I don’t think so
and I don’t think so
and I don’t think so so as a fish nerd what was that doing in
so as a fish nerd what was that doing in
so as a fish nerd what was that doing in Tanzania on the shores of East Africa
Tanzania on the shores of East Africa
Tanzania on the shores of East Africa chasing bum fisherman’s criminal
chasing bum fisherman’s criminal
chasing bum fisherman’s criminal syndicates doing undercover operations
syndicates doing undercover operations
syndicates doing undercover operations and to find out more and to understand
and to find out more and to understand
and to find out more and to understand that we have to understand what blast
that we have to understand what blast
that we have to understand what blast fishing really is so fishermen construct
fishing really is so fishermen construct
fishing really is so fishermen construct their own explosives they use urea which
their own explosives they use urea which
their own explosives they use urea which is ammonium nitrate and they mix it with
is ammonium nitrate and they mix it with
is ammonium nitrate and they mix it with fuel diesel oil and they put it in a
fuel diesel oil and they put it in a
fuel diesel oil and they put it in a plastic container like you see then this
plastic container like you see then this
plastic container like you see then this is a pretty harmless mixture as is so to
is a pretty harmless mixture as is so to
is a pretty harmless mixture as is so to make it explode you need a high
make it explode you need a high
make it explode you need a high accelerant explosive and the fisherman
accelerant explosive and the fisherman
accelerant explosive and the fisherman had access to explodes lv6 explosives
had access to explodes lv6 explosives
had access to explodes lv6 explosives now this is a mining explosive so what
now this is a mining explosive so what
now this is a mining explosive so what the fishermen would do is they would
the fishermen would do is they would
the fishermen would do is they would grab a fuse place it inside a detonator
grab a fuse place it inside a detonator
grab a fuse place it inside a detonator and place the detonator inside the
and place the detonator inside the
and place the detonator inside the bottleneck of the explosive the
bottleneck of the explosive the
bottleneck of the explosive the they’ll strap a rock to it and throw it
they’ll strap a rock to it and throw it
they’ll strap a rock to it and throw it overboard and wait it’ll sink down to
overboard and wait it’ll sink down to
overboard and wait it’ll sink down to the reef a few seconds huge explosion
the reef a few seconds huge explosion
the reef a few seconds huge explosion and that explosion absolutely destroys
and that explosion absolutely destroys
and that explosion absolutely destroys the natural coral reef in every single
the natural coral reef in every single
the natural coral reef in every single way it does so it actually lays waste to
way it does so it actually lays waste to
way it does so it actually lays waste to the coral reef which is the lifeline to
the coral reef which is the lifeline to
the coral reef which is the lifeline to the coastal communities of Tanzania it
the coastal communities of Tanzania it
the coastal communities of Tanzania it literally creates a rubber field with no
literally creates a rubber field with no
literally creates a rubber field with no natural recourse of recovery and
natural recourse of recovery and
natural recourse of recovery and certainly not in my lifestyle
certainly not in my lifestyle
certainly not in my lifestyle the fishermen then jump overboard nests
the fishermen then jump overboard nests
the fishermen then jump overboard nests swim down or they get some scuba gear
swim down or they get some scuba gear
swim down or they get some scuba gear mesh they jump in the water and they go
mesh they jump in the water and they go
mesh they jump in the water and they go and collect their dead fish the problem
and collect their dead fish the problem
and collect their dead fish the problem is a lot of the fishermen injure
is a lot of the fishermen injure
is a lot of the fishermen injure themselves because they don’t know how
themselves because they don’t know how
themselves because they don’t know how to handle the dodgy detonators that
to handle the dodgy detonators that
to handle the dodgy detonators that they’re using they blow their arms off
they’re using they blow their arms off
they’re using they blow their arms off they blow themselves up and even when
they blow themselves up and even when
they blow themselves up and even when scuba diving they don’t understand the
scuba diving they don’t understand the
scuba diving they don’t understand the relationship between pressure and depth
relationship between pressure and depth
relationship between pressure and depth so the guy on the bottom side of the
so the guy on the bottom side of the
so the guy on the bottom side of the screen is actually got decompression
screen is actually got decompression
screen is actually got decompression sickness and I’m not sure if he’s alive
sickness and I’m not sure if he’s alive
sickness and I’m not sure if he’s alive today I really don’t know and that is
today I really don’t know and that is
today I really don’t know and that is the problem these guys are killing
the problem these guys are killing
the problem these guys are killing themselves using these explosives and
themselves using these explosives and
themselves using these explosives and there’s not just one bomb the hydrophone
there’s not just one bomb the hydrophone
there’s not just one bomb the hydrophone data from WWF showed 438 explosives in
data from WWF showed 438 explosives in
data from WWF showed 438 explosives in 46 days that’s to seagoing days in
46 days that’s to seagoing days in
46 days that’s to seagoing days in Darussalam area alone and then the
Darussalam area alone and then the
Darussalam area alone and then the Wildlife Conservation Society of the
Wildlife Conservation Society of the
Wildlife Conservation Society of the Tanzania program they took a ship and
Tanzania program they took a ship and
Tanzania program they took a ship and dragged a hydrophone along the length of
dragged a hydrophone along the length of
dragged a hydrophone along the length of the coastline to record whale songs how
the coastline to record whale songs how
the coastline to record whale songs how beautiful and what do they get hundreds
beautiful and what do they get hundreds
beautiful and what do they get hundreds of explosions off along the entire
of explosions off along the entire
of explosions off along the entire coastline of Tanzania then we have
coastline of Tanzania then we have
coastline of Tanzania then we have climate change illegal fishing pollution
climate change illegal fishing pollution
climate change illegal fishing pollution these are all having detrimental effects
these are all having detrimental effects
these are all having detrimental effects to the coral reef as we know it and
to the coral reef as we know it and
to the coral reef as we know it and there will be a point some time and I
there will be a point some time and I
there will be a point some time and I think we’ve almost reaching it where the
think we’ve almost reaching it where the
think we’ve almost reaching it where the coral reef is not going to support the
coral reef is not going to support the
coral reef is not going to support the growing poor and resource dependent
growing poor and resource dependent
growing poor and resource dependent population of Tanzania and that’s a
population of Tanzania and that’s a
population of Tanzania and that’s a pretty scary thought so Jesse cutter an
pretty scary thought so Jesse cutter an
pretty scary thought so Jesse cutter an international investigation expert an
international investigation expert an
international investigation expert an ex-policeman from South Africa and
ex-policeman from South Africa and
ex-policeman from South Africa and myself a fish net were asked by the
myself a fish net were asked by the
myself a fish net were asked by the Indian Ocean Commission from the smart
Indian Ocean Commission from the smart
Indian Ocean Commission from the smart fish program to go and investigate blast
fish program to go and investigate blast
fish program to go and investigate blast fishing in Tanzania and try and reduce
fishing in Tanzania and try and reduce
fishing in Tanzania and try and reduce it or
it or
it or and that was a mandate it is not easy to
and that was a mandate it is not easy to
and that was a mandate it is not easy to catch a bomb fishermen so we were to the
catch a bomb fishermen so we were to the
catch a bomb fishermen so we were to the Ministry of Fisheries and we set up some
Ministry of Fisheries and we set up some
Ministry of Fisheries and we set up some strategic surveillance operations and
strategic surveillance operations and
strategic surveillance operations and Tangra in the north of Tanzania and our
Tangra in the north of Tanzania and our
Tangra in the north of Tanzania and our results were were less than convincing
results were were less than convincing
results were were less than convincing we spend more time stuck in a tree on a
we spend more time stuck in a tree on a
we spend more time stuck in a tree on a random island been harassed by mosquitos
random island been harassed by mosquitos
random island been harassed by mosquitos predawn not a single fisherman rocking
predawn not a single fisherman rocking
predawn not a single fisherman rocking up then we decided to do Reds on
up then we decided to do Reds on
up then we decided to do Reds on fisherman’s houses at night two o’clock
fisherman’s houses at night two o’clock
fisherman’s houses at night two o’clock in the morning we went to the village
in the morning we went to the village
in the morning we went to the village elders they pointed out where these bomb
elders they pointed out where these bomb
elders they pointed out where these bomb fishing houses were and winter road and
fishing houses were and winter road and
fishing houses were and winter road and arrest the guys nothing they had gone
arrest the guys nothing they had gone
arrest the guys nothing they had gone even their furniture had gone they know
even their furniture had gone they know
even their furniture had gone they know we were coming they knew that we then
we were coming they knew that we then
we were coming they knew that we then went to the fish markets and we did we
went to the fish markets and we did we
went to the fish markets and we did we did a lot of operations in the fish
did a lot of operations in the fish
did a lot of operations in the fish markets and we were thrown with rocks
markets and we were thrown with rocks
markets and we were thrown with rocks and stones and abuse and threatened and
and stones and abuse and threatened and
and stones and abuse and threatened and this is a really difficult environment
this is a really difficult environment
this is a really difficult environment to try and combat blast fishing so he
to try and combat blast fishing so he
to try and combat blast fishing so he changed our strategy let’s go and
changed our strategy let’s go and
changed our strategy let’s go and capture all the illegal fishing gear and
capture all the illegal fishing gear and
capture all the illegal fishing gear and destroy it including the boats we had
destroy it including the boats we had
destroy it including the boats we had undercover officers in the villages
undercover officers in the villages
undercover officers in the villages marking the boats that are indicated as
marking the boats that are indicated as
marking the boats that are indicated as blast fishing boats so we were just go
blast fishing boats so we were just go
blast fishing boats so we were just go and clean them up and then we’ll burn
and clean them up and then we’ll burn
and clean them up and then we’ll burn and destroy their legal fishing gear and
and destroy their legal fishing gear and
and destroy their legal fishing gear and that was one of the the challenges were
that was one of the the challenges were
that was one of the the challenges were facing but after two years we had
facing but after two years we had
facing but after two years we had literally no success so said they were a
literally no success so said they were a
literally no success so said they were a cold beer with JD and I said listen what
cold beer with JD and I said listen what
cold beer with JD and I said listen what are we not getting what are we missing
are we not getting what are we missing
are we not getting what are we missing something’s wrong here because quite
something’s wrong here because quite
something’s wrong here because quite frankly we look like a bunch of Muppets
frankly we look like a bunch of Muppets
frankly we look like a bunch of Muppets not achieving about two months later we
not achieving about two months later we
not achieving about two months later we had our break we set up an operation in
had our break we set up an operation in
had our break we set up an operation in mataró but first we set up an operation
mataró but first we set up an operation
mataró but first we set up an operation in daraa so long and we leaked the
in daraa so long and we leaked the
in daraa so long and we leaked the information about what we were about to
information about what we were about to
information about what we were about to do fake news it works right we told the
do fake news it works right we told the
do fake news it works right we told the fishermen exactly what they wanted to
fishermen exactly what they wanted to
fishermen exactly what they wanted to hear so the patrol went out Nathalie we
hear so the patrol went out Nathalie we
hear so the patrol went out Nathalie we then snuck into a car and drove 700
then snuck into a car and drove 700
then snuck into a car and drove 700 kilometers south to muara right and then
kilometers south to muara right and then
kilometers south to muara right and then we got into a little patrol boat
we got into a little patrol boat
we got into a little patrol boat pre-dawn through the mangroves through
pre-dawn through the mangroves through
pre-dawn through the mangroves through the coral channel and went to the deep
the coral channel and went to the deep
the coral channel and went to the deep sea and waited for the blast fishermen
sea and waited for the blast fishermen
sea and waited for the blast fishermen to come there’s a
to come there’s a
to come there’s a thirty-six hour day but we are managed
thirty-six hour day but we are managed
thirty-six hour day but we are managed to rest three blast fisherman’s with
to rest three blast fisherman’s with
to rest three blast fisherman’s with nine kgs of explosives on their boat
nine kgs of explosives on their boat
nine kgs of explosives on their boat from the information we obtain from them
from the information we obtain from them
from the information we obtain from them we managed a two o’clock that Sunday
we managed a two o’clock that Sunday
we managed a two o’clock that Sunday morning to go and pick the explosives
morning to go and pick the explosives
morning to go and pick the explosives trader the dealer out of the village and
trader the dealer out of the village and
trader the dealer out of the village and arrest him as well so for the first time
arrest him as well so for the first time
arrest him as well so for the first time we had first-hand information and
we had first-hand information and
we had first-hand information and evidence of what was going on up until
evidence of what was going on up until
evidence of what was going on up until this point all our operations were based
this point all our operations were based
this point all our operations were based on two key assumptions the first is the
on two key assumptions the first is the
on two key assumptions the first is the bombs were made locally used locally and
bombs were made locally used locally and
bombs were made locally used locally and traded locally amongst fishermen and the
traded locally amongst fishermen and the
traded locally amongst fishermen and the second was the sale of the fish from
second was the sale of the fish from
second was the sale of the fish from brass fishing incentivized blast fishing
brass fishing incentivized blast fishing
brass fishing incentivized blast fishing to continue so does the profit margin
to continue so does the profit margin
to continue so does the profit margin what we understood from the information
what we understood from the information
what we understood from the information from these gentlemen that we arrested
from these gentlemen that we arrested
from these gentlemen that we arrested was that real completely wrong so the
was that real completely wrong so the
was that real completely wrong so the first assumption the fishermen make the
first assumption the fishermen make the
first assumption the fishermen make the bombs is partly correct but the urea
bombs is partly correct but the urea
bombs is partly correct but the urea explosive you saw earlier is just to add
explosive you saw earlier is just to add
explosive you saw earlier is just to add more bang to your bomb and what really
more bang to your bomb and what really
more bang to your bomb and what really is interesting is that it’s the trade in
is interesting is that it’s the trade in
is interesting is that it’s the trade in explodes lv6 that is driven by organized
explodes lv6 that is driven by organized
explodes lv6 that is driven by organized crime and mafia type syndicates we had
crime and mafia type syndicates we had
crime and mafia type syndicates we had completely overlooked the criminal
completely overlooked the criminal
completely overlooked the criminal aspect of what was happening in this
aspect of what was happening in this
aspect of what was happening in this trade and by doing so we were not
trade and by doing so we were not
trade and by doing so we were not climbing up that ladder to be able to
climbing up that ladder to be able to
climbing up that ladder to be able to stop blast fishing the second assumption
stop blast fishing the second assumption
stop blast fishing the second assumption about the selling of the fish being
about the selling of the fish being
about the selling of the fish being profitable was completely false as well
profitable was completely false as well
profitable was completely false as well it’s actually the trade the value of the
it’s actually the trade the value of the
it’s actually the trade the value of the trade and explosives along the chain
trade and explosives along the chain
trade and explosives along the chain that has the value what we realized when
that has the value what we realized when
that has the value what we realized when I had a beer with JD and I really like
I had a beer with JD and I really like
I had a beer with JD and I really like what would be missing what what do we
what would be missing what what do we
what would be missing what what do we not understand is that we weren’t
not understand is that we weren’t
not understand is that we weren’t looking at the bucket of fish the
looking at the bucket of fish the
looking at the bucket of fish the fishermen were bringing in from fishing
fishermen were bringing in from fishing
fishermen were bringing in from fishing it’s literally worthless a fisherman
it’s literally worthless a fisherman
it’s literally worthless a fisherman throwing a bomb is a measure of
throwing a bomb is a measure of
throwing a bomb is a measure of desperation and he’s been manipulated by
desperation and he’s been manipulated by
desperation and he’s been manipulated by the low-level syndicate leaders the boat
the low-level syndicate leaders the boat
the low-level syndicate leaders the boat owners the local businessman and the
owners the local businessman and the
owners the local businessman and the local politicians at that level so we
local politicians at that level so we
local politicians at that level so we had to revise our operations
had to revise our operations
had to revise our operations quadratically
quadratically
quadratically we had touched a nerve in daraa salon
we had touched a nerve in daraa salon
we had touched a nerve in daraa salon and we wanted to hand some of this
and we wanted to hand some of this
and we wanted to hand some of this information over to international media
information over to international media
information over to international media to try and create some publicity about
to try and create some publicity about
to try and create some publicity about it
it
it little did JD and I know that we were
little did JD and I know that we were
little did JD and I know that we were about to be arrested so a bit of fortune
about to be arrested so a bit of fortune
about to be arrested so a bit of fortune and we’ll have foresight from the
and we’ll have foresight from the
and we’ll have foresight from the Ministry of Fisheries instead of getting
Ministry of Fisheries instead of getting
Ministry of Fisheries instead of getting arrested we had a meeting with Inspector
arrested we had a meeting with Inspector
arrested we had a meeting with Inspector General of Police of Tanzania and we
General of Police of Tanzania and we
General of Police of Tanzania and we showed him our case look what we found
showed him our case look what we found
showed him our case look what we found look what we’ve uncovered you’ve got a
look what we’ve uncovered you’ve got a
look what we’ve uncovered you’ve got a criminal network dealing in explosives
criminal network dealing in explosives
criminal network dealing in explosives in your country he immediately said to
in your country he immediately said to
in your country he immediately said to us carry on but used this team of
us carry on but used this team of
us carry on but used this team of officers that I’ll give you led by mr.
officers that I’ll give you led by mr.
officers that I’ll give you led by mr. Duma Mahara and go back and help and
Duma Mahara and go back and help and
Duma Mahara and go back and help and work on the investigation to preview new
work on the investigation to preview new
work on the investigation to preview new assumptions and these new assumptions
assumptions and these new assumptions
assumptions and these new assumptions was very simple the trade and Xplode lv6
was very simple the trade and Xplode lv6
was very simple the trade and Xplode lv6 has to come from a black market and we
has to come from a black market and we
has to come from a black market and we assumed that black market originates in
assumed that black market originates in
assumed that black market originates in Mara Rani mining district which is a
Mara Rani mining district which is a
Mara Rani mining district which is a tanzanite mines in Tanzania the second
tanzanite mines in Tanzania the second
tanzanite mines in Tanzania the second assumption is super dealers are being
assumption is super dealers are being
assumption is super dealers are being used to trade the explosives up and down
used to trade the explosives up and down
used to trade the explosives up and down the coastline
the coastline
the coastline now when you poke in the dark into
now when you poke in the dark into
now when you poke in the dark into something illegal and lucrative
something illegal and lucrative
something illegal and lucrative eventually something pokes back and what
eventually something pokes back and what
eventually something pokes back and what we found is that we were getting a lot
we found is that we were getting a lot
we found is that we were getting a lot of threats we had to watch our back on
of threats we had to watch our back on
of threats we had to watch our back on most of our operations
most of our operations
most of our operations there were times where we were very
there were times where we were very
there were times where we were very worried about our safety and that was
worried about our safety and that was
worried about our safety and that was just sort of part of the norm of what we
just sort of part of the norm of what we
just sort of part of the norm of what we were experiencing and for me coming from
were experiencing and for me coming from
were experiencing and for me coming from a world of scientists and are working in
a world of scientists and are working in
a world of scientists and are working in a world of fish crime there’s quite a
a world of fish crime there’s quite a
a world of fish crime there’s quite a lot to to process and get through you
lot to to process and get through you
lot to to process and get through you know intimidation fear not only for me
know intimidation fear not only for me
know intimidation fear not only for me but my family as well
but my family as well
but my family as well my wife would fire hey what are you
my wife would fire hey what are you
my wife would fire hey what are you doing in 10 0 at the moment working with
doing in 10 0 at the moment working with
doing in 10 0 at the moment working with Nemo and some measurings of fish not
Nemo and some measurings of fish not
Nemo and some measurings of fish not nothing to do with bombs and mines and
nothing to do with bombs and mines and
nothing to do with bombs and mines and explosives I promise everything’s fine
explosives I promise everything’s fine
explosives I promise everything’s fine and we had to work through that together
and we had to work through that together
and we had to work through that together as a team because it was intimidating
as a team because it was intimidating
as a team because it was intimidating and we had to carry on because we needed
and we had to carry on because we needed
and we had to carry on because we needed to find the super diva so we headed to
to find the super diva so we headed to
to find the super diva so we headed to the mines the tanzanite mines that’s our
the mines the tanzanite mines that’s our
the mines the tanzanite mines that’s our team going down and some sort of bucket
team going down and some sort of bucket
team going down and some sort of bucket like thing into the depths of the mine
like thing into the depths of the mine
like thing into the depths of the mine you know so we started doing random line
you know so we started doing random line
you know so we started doing random line inspections so that the miners wouldn’t
inspections so that the miners wouldn’t
inspections so that the miners wouldn’t gets worried that there’s an additional
gets worried that there’s an additional
gets worried that there’s an additional police force in the mining area and what
police force in the mining area and what
police force in the mining area and what we found after about four or five days
we found after about four or five days
we found after about four or five days of the hottest windiest dustiest lesson
of the hottest windiest dustiest lesson
of the hottest windiest dustiest lesson in Africa was inside one mine a little
in Africa was inside one mine a little
in Africa was inside one mine a little piece of paper handwritten receipt for
piece of paper handwritten receipt for
piece of paper handwritten receipt for the selling over the sale of explosives
the selling over the sale of explosives
the selling over the sale of explosives from a non-registered dealer uh-huh
from a non-registered dealer uh-huh
from a non-registered dealer uh-huh maybe this was the source of the black
maybe this was the source of the black
maybe this was the source of the black market and that’s something we had to
market and that’s something we had to
market and that’s something we had to investigate so we’ve got two undercover
investigate so we’ve got two undercover
investigate so we’ve got two undercover officers and we set up a sting operation
officers and we set up a sting operation
officers and we set up a sting operation immediately and the guys went in to this
immediately and the guys went in to this
immediately and the guys went in to this dealer and pretended to be fishermen
dealer and pretended to be fishermen
dealer and pretended to be fishermen from at whare trying to extend their
from at whare trying to extend their
from at whare trying to extend their business opportunities and they managed
business opportunities and they managed
business opportunities and they managed to buy 750 sticks of exploded lv6
to buy 750 sticks of exploded lv6
to buy 750 sticks of exploded lv6 from this guy one stick can be broken
from this guy one stick can be broken
from this guy one stick can be broken down to make five kilograms of urea bomb
down to make five kilograms of urea bomb
down to make five kilograms of urea bomb so theoretically we stopped three and a
so theoretically we stopped three and a
so theoretically we stopped three and a half to three point seven tons of
half to three point seven tons of
half to three point seven tons of explosives entering the coral reef by
explosives entering the coral reef by
explosives entering the coral reef by doing this purchase
doing this purchase
doing this purchase we also learned from this guy how to
we also learned from this guy how to
we also learned from this guy how to maneuver the explosives on the road down
maneuver the explosives on the road down
maneuver the explosives on the road down to daru-salam as to avoid police stops
to daru-salam as to avoid police stops
to daru-salam as to avoid police stops and roadblocks and how to get it to a
and roadblocks and how to get it to a
and roadblocks and how to get it to a super dealer so we right narrow ronnie
super dealer so we right narrow ronnie
super dealer so we right narrow ronnie was a vision of the black market all
was a vision of the black market all
was a vision of the black market all right and super dealers were around in
right and super dealers were around in
right and super dealers were around in Daraa Salaam so we were we were correct
Daraa Salaam so we were we were correct
Daraa Salaam so we were we were correct in assumptions for the last three years
in assumptions for the last three years
in assumptions for the last three years we’d be working with the Ministry of
we’d be working with the Ministry of
we’d be working with the Ministry of Fisheries at this real low level of
Fisheries at this real low level of
Fisheries at this real low level of criminal activity level one level two
criminal activity level one level two
criminal activity level one level two the local bomb fishermen and the local
the local bomb fishermen and the local
the local bomb fishermen and the local dealers if you want to stop on fishing
dealers if you want to stop on fishing
dealers if you want to stop on fishing you can’t work there you’re not gonna
you can’t work there you’re not gonna
you can’t work there you’re not gonna have any success it’s like putting a
have any success it’s like putting a
have any success it’s like putting a bandaid on a ruptured artery it’s just
bandaid on a ruptured artery it’s just
bandaid on a ruptured artery it’s just not gonna work but after a year of
not gonna work but after a year of
not gonna work but after a year of working with a small little unit with
working with a small little unit with
working with a small little unit with investigative powers and two criminal
investigative powers and two criminal
investigative powers and two criminal activities in Tanzania we started
activities in Tanzania we started
activities in Tanzania we started unraveling level three level four even
unraveling level three level four even
unraveling level three level four even level five transnational criminal
level five transnational criminal
level five transnational criminal syndicates not only linked with
syndicates not only linked with
syndicates not only linked with explosives with wildlife crime as well
explosives with wildlife crime as well
explosives with wildlife crime as well and based on the success that we had
and based on the success that we had
and based on the success that we had uncovered and
uncovered and
uncovered and what we had shown the Minister of Home
what we had shown the Minister of Home
what we had shown the Minister of Home Affairs in the government of Tanzania
Affairs in the government of Tanzania
Affairs in the government of Tanzania officially ratified and signed into a
officially ratified and signed into a
officially ratified and signed into a force the National Tosti the matter
force the National Tosti the matter
force the National Tosti the matter multi-agency task team of Tanzania and
multi-agency task team of Tanzania and
multi-agency task team of Tanzania and we were ready proud and our duty was to
we were ready proud and our duty was to
we were ready proud and our duty was to investigate organized wildlife crime of
investigate organized wildlife crime of
investigate organized wildlife crime of which fish crime was part of it so here
which fish crime was part of it so here
which fish crime was part of it so here we are we started a new agency in the
we are we started a new agency in the
we are we started a new agency in the police force with the Tanzanian
police force with the Tanzanian
police force with the Tanzanian government and we have a blueprint on
government and we have a blueprint on
government and we have a blueprint on how to move forward and fight organized
how to move forward and fight organized
how to move forward and fight organized wildlife crime the key success to the
wildlife crime the key success to the
wildlife crime the key success to the formation of the mat political wolf and
formation of the mat political wolf and
formation of the mat political wolf and in Tanzania we have it so now we needed
in Tanzania we have it so now we needed
in Tanzania we have it so now we needed to get the intelligence on the super
to get the intelligence on the super
to get the intelligence on the super dealer so we infiltrated the darussalam
dealer so we infiltrated the darussalam
dealer so we infiltrated the darussalam very fish market with lots of undercover
very fish market with lots of undercover
very fish market with lots of undercover agents and all the surrounding villages
agents and all the surrounding villages
agents and all the surrounding villages as well and while we were doing that we
as well and while we were doing that we
as well and while we were doing that we were running operations in tanker in the
were running operations in tanker in the
were running operations in tanker in the north as well as muara in the south and
north as well as muara in the south and
north as well as muara in the south and doing these operations we managed to
doing these operations we managed to
doing these operations we managed to arrest more bomb fishers and more
arrest more bomb fishers and more
arrest more bomb fishers and more dealers in the torah and from them we
dealers in the torah and from them we
dealers in the torah and from them we managed to ascertain that the super deal
managed to ascertain that the super deal
managed to ascertain that the super deal in dar Salam had alias j4 okay j4 was
in dar Salam had alias j4 okay j4 was
in dar Salam had alias j4 okay j4 was now on our radar when we corroborated
now on our radar when we corroborated
now on our radar when we corroborated that information with our telogen
that information with our telogen
that information with our telogen officers saying names started coming up
officers saying names started coming up
officers saying names started coming up j4 so now we have to find j4 so what we
j4 so now we have to find j4 so what we
j4 so now we have to find j4 so what we did is has set up a number of sting
did is has set up a number of sting
did is has set up a number of sting operations and we went to buy more and
operations and we went to buy more and
operations and we went to buy more and more and more explosives bigger
more and more explosives bigger
more and more explosives bigger quantities every single time the simple
quantities every single time the simple
quantities every single time the simple reason we did this in the area where j4
reason we did this in the area where j4
reason we did this in the area where j4 was working is we were buying legitimacy
was working is we were buying legitimacy
was working is we were buying legitimacy without lower end dealers that he
without lower end dealers that he
without lower end dealers that he obviously controls and with dangling
obviously controls and with dangling
obviously controls and with dangling this money carrot there’s more and more
this money carrot there’s more and more
this money carrot there’s more and more money available hoping he would come out
money available hoping he would come out
money available hoping he would come out of the woodwork and present himself and
of the woodwork and present himself and
of the woodwork and present himself and deal straight up with us and it happened
deal straight up with us and it happened
deal straight up with us and it happened our agents were there with a cameras on
our agents were there with a cameras on
our agents were there with a cameras on and they’re buying some explosives in
and they’re buying some explosives in
and they’re buying some explosives in the air comes as gosh it’s j4 we’ve got
the air comes as gosh it’s j4 we’ve got
the air comes as gosh it’s j4 we’ve got him on camera Nath he then said to our
him on camera Nath he then said to our
him on camera Nath he then said to our agents listen you deal with me directly
agents listen you deal with me directly
agents listen you deal with me directly I don’t trust these guys out of me
I don’t trust these guys out of me
I don’t trust these guys out of me they’re stealing my money
they’re stealing my money
they’re stealing my money she said j4 no problem we’ll deal with
she said j4 no problem we’ll deal with
she said j4 no problem we’ll deal with you we will do all our dealings with you
you we will do all our dealings with you
you we will do all our dealings with you % so this was our first opportunity to
% so this was our first opportunity to
% so this was our first opportunity to catch the super dealer so we set up
catch the super dealer so we set up
catch the super dealer so we set up another sting operation we wanted to buy
another sting operation we wanted to buy
another sting operation we wanted to buy a thousand sticks of exploded lv6
a thousand sticks of exploded lv6
a thousand sticks of exploded lv6 and 50 kilograms of a urea explosives so
and 50 kilograms of a urea explosives so
and 50 kilograms of a urea explosives so we’ve got our undercover agents ready we
we’ve got our undercover agents ready we
we’ve got our undercover agents ready we put all the money in their bag and then
put all the money in their bag and then
put all the money in their bag and then we go to iPhone and put that I lost my
we go to iPhone and put that I lost my
we go to iPhone and put that I lost my iPhone function on threw it in his bag
iPhone function on threw it in his bag
iPhone function on threw it in his bag as well because the deal was going to go
as well because the deal was going to go
as well because the deal was going to go down in the townships and the outskirts
down in the townships and the outskirts
down in the townships and the outskirts of dar Aslam they’re derelict roads and
of dar Aslam they’re derelict roads and
of dar Aslam they’re derelict roads and sort of tattered houses and it’s very
sort of tattered houses and it’s very
sort of tattered houses and it’s very difficult to find a way we certainly
difficult to find a way we certainly
difficult to find a way we certainly didn’t know we infiltrated the area with
didn’t know we infiltrated the area with
didn’t know we infiltrated the area with plain clothed police officers and case
plain clothed police officers and case
plain clothed police officers and case as a security risk that went down and we
as a security risk that went down and we
as a security risk that went down and we had a arrest vehicle on standby in close
had a arrest vehicle on standby in close
had a arrest vehicle on standby in close proximity of where our iPhone was
proximity of where our iPhone was
proximity of where our iPhone was telling us things were happening and
telling us things were happening and
telling us things were happening and that’s how we did it that’s the tools
that’s how we did it that’s the tools
that’s how we did it that’s the tools that we had so we’ve got to the area of
that we had so we’ve got to the area of
that we had so we’ve got to the area of the number of location changes obviously
the number of location changes obviously
the number of location changes obviously they’re starting to see who’s following
they’re starting to see who’s following
they’re starting to see who’s following us and they made j4 in a location and a
us and they made j4 in a location and a
us and they made j4 in a location and a pretty tight end part and the cargo has
pretty tight end part and the cargo has
pretty tight end part and the cargo has been loaded in her agent car but had
been loaded in her agent car but had
been loaded in her agent car but had that exact point are a risk vehicle
that exact point are a risk vehicle
that exact point are a risk vehicle couldn’t get to them lose j4 what do we
couldn’t get to them lose j4 what do we
couldn’t get to them lose j4 what do we do
do
do and at that moment the agent undercover
and at that moment the agent undercover
and at that moment the agent undercover agent had a brilliant idea
agent had a brilliant idea
agent had a brilliant idea he’s like oh I’m suddenly suffering from
he’s like oh I’m suddenly suffering from
he’s like oh I’m suddenly suffering from a severe case of diarrhea you know that
a severe case of diarrhea you know that
a severe case of diarrhea you know that that that plastic excuse mark does the
that that plastic excuse mark does the
that that plastic excuse mark does the chicken again well that’s what he did
chicken again well that’s what he did
chicken again well that’s what he did and Jeff Falls I caught with his a total
and Jeff Falls I caught with his a total
and Jeff Falls I caught with his a total over here around the art house and as
over here around the art house and as
over here around the art house and as the agent got into the toilet he bent
the agent got into the toilet he bent
the agent got into the toilet he bent down and phoned our race vehicle who was
down and phoned our race vehicle who was
down and phoned our race vehicle who was close by and because he memorized the
close by and because he memorized the
close by and because he memorized the way in a way the pile was got happen he
way in a way the pile was got happen he
way in a way the pile was got happen he managed to guide the car in a short
managed to guide the car in a short
managed to guide the car in a short chase ensued as a bit intense
chase ensued as a bit intense
chase ensued as a bit intense and finally j4 was arrested we’ve got
and finally j4 was arrested we’ve got
and finally j4 was arrested we’ve got the super dealer in Daraa Salaam now the
the super dealer in Daraa Salaam now the
the super dealer in Daraa Salaam now the network doesn’t finish there we continue
network doesn’t finish there we continue
network doesn’t finish there we continue following up leads on other dealers and
following up leads on other dealers and
following up leads on other dealers and harvest links to international
harvest links to international
harvest links to international syndicates and hard links to wildlife
syndicates and hard links to wildlife
syndicates and hard links to wildlife crime but the key part is to be
crime but the key part is to be
crime but the key part is to be prosecution driven investigations where
prosecution driven investigations where
prosecution driven investigations where the measure of success should be
the measure of success should be
the measure of success should be convictions and in this case the
convictions and in this case the
convictions and in this case the Tanzanian government
Tanzanian government
Tanzanian government own that success if we want the
own that success if we want the
own that success if we want the political world to fight wildlife crime
political world to fight wildlife crime
political world to fight wildlife crime so we continue and for me as a fish nerd
so we continue and for me as a fish nerd
so we continue and for me as a fish nerd I never ever thought I’d be working with
I never ever thought I’d be working with
I never ever thought I’d be working with a multi-agency task team on multiple
a multi-agency task team on multiple
a multi-agency task team on multiple levels and scales of fish crime but I
levels and scales of fish crime but I
levels and scales of fish crime but I always lint in my life to look beyond my
always lint in my life to look beyond my
always lint in my life to look beyond my level of expertise and to share that
level of expertise and to share that
level of expertise and to share that knowledge openly and freely and in the
knowledge openly and freely and in the
knowledge openly and freely and in the case of blast fishing we had to look
case of blast fishing we had to look
case of blast fishing we had to look beyond the fact that it’s illegal
beyond the fact that it’s illegal
beyond the fact that it’s illegal fishing beyond the facade and we had to
fishing beyond the facade and we had to
fishing beyond the facade and we had to uncover that criminal element of
uncover that criminal element of
uncover that criminal element of criminal network because that is fish
criminal network because that is fish
criminal network because that is fish crime and fish crime is wildlife crime
crime and fish crime is wildlife crime
crime and fish crime is wildlife crime and only way to fight this is through a
and only way to fight this is through a
and only way to fight this is through a multi-agency task team format it works
multi-agency task team format it works
multi-agency task team format it works its international best practice in the
its international best practice in the
its international best practice in the fight against fish crime and wildlife
fight against fish crime and wildlife
fight against fish crime and wildlife crime time is our limiting factor not
crime time is our limiting factor not
crime time is our limiting factor not the potential of our collective
the potential of our collective
the potential of our collective resources thank you
resources thank you
resources thank you [Applause]
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