Tech finds its way into so many parts of our lives looking at my life it
our lives looking at my life it
our lives looking at my life it transforms the way I do things I found
transforms the way I do things I found
transforms the way I do things I found my current job on LinkedIn actually they
my current job on LinkedIn actually they
my current job on LinkedIn actually they found me when I’m trying to find a place
found me when I’m trying to find a place
found me when I’m trying to find a place that I haven’t been to before I look on
that I haven’t been to before I look on
that I haven’t been to before I look on Google Maps I went on a date with
Google Maps I went on a date with
Google Maps I went on a date with somebody from bumble a dating app and it
somebody from bumble a dating app and it
somebody from bumble a dating app and it worked out but he taught me how to use
worked out but he taught me how to use
worked out but he taught me how to use Instagram and right now I’m taking a
Instagram and right now I’m taking a
Instagram and right now I’m taking a course my spare time on systems impact
course my spare time on systems impact
course my spare time on systems impact online course so I have all of these
online course so I have all of these
online course so I have all of these demands and these needs for different
demands and these needs for different
demands and these needs for different kinds of Technology there are tools of
kinds of Technology there are tools of
kinds of Technology there are tools of technology that can do so many things
technology that can do so many things
technology that can do so many things things that we can see the technology
things that we can see the technology
things that we can see the technology already doing and there are new ways to
already doing and there are new ways to
already doing and there are new ways to use technology that are always coming up
use technology that are always coming up
use technology that are always coming up and so I am a development economist and
and so I am a development economist and
and so I am a development economist and I say wow there are so many ways that we
I say wow there are so many ways that we
I say wow there are so many ways that we can connect these new tools to people
can connect these new tools to people
can connect these new tools to people that have profound needs there are ways
that have profound needs there are ways
that have profound needs there are ways that we’re using technologies in the
that we’re using technologies in the
that we’re using technologies in the developed world that could have a direct
developed world that could have a direct
developed world that could have a direct application to developing world we have
application to developing world we have
application to developing world we have technologies that we use that could be
technologies that we use that could be
technologies that we use that could be used totally different means for
used totally different means for
used totally different means for developing world right now I am CEO of
developing world right now I am CEO of
developing world right now I am CEO of the how their foundation and we also
the how their foundation and we also
the how their foundation and we also have an app for farmers so tech is
have an app for farmers so tech is
have an app for farmers so tech is actually a big part of our service
actually a big part of our service
actually a big part of our service delivery a few months ago I was out in
delivery a few months ago I was out in
delivery a few months ago I was out in Kenya where we have a lot of our
Kenya where we have a lot of our
Kenya where we have a lot of our projects and we build dams Wells and Luz
projects and we build dams Wells and Luz
projects and we build dams Wells and Luz and with the purpose of teaching farmers
and with the purpose of teaching farmers
and with the purpose of teaching farmers to farm so teaching the ultra poor how
to farm so teaching the ultra poor how
to farm so teaching the ultra poor how to leave up the ladder and maybe become
to leave up the ladder and maybe become
to leave up the ladder and maybe become the what they call the viable poor who
the what they call the viable poor who
the what they call the viable poor who everybody else wants to work with like
everybody else wants to work with like
everybody else wants to work with like the Gates Foundation and one of our
the Gates Foundation and one of our
the Gates Foundation and one of our farmers it’s very clever lady she was
farmers it’s very clever lady she was
farmers it’s very clever lady she was entrepreneurial she had gone into a big
entrepreneurial she had gone into a big
entrepreneurial she had gone into a big market and bought a big bag of peanuts
market and bought a big bag of peanuts
market and bought a big bag of peanuts and she divided them in lots of little
and she divided them in lots of little
and she divided them in lots of little tiny bags of peanuts and she was selling
tiny bags of peanuts and she was selling
tiny bags of peanuts and she was selling them and they were an affordable price
them and they were an affordable price
them and they were an affordable price point and my colleague said oh yeah I’ll
point and my colleague said oh yeah I’ll
point and my colleague said oh yeah I’ll buy some of those peanuts as she asked
buy some of those peanuts as she asked
buy some of those peanuts as she asked for a couple of bags and I just took out
for a couple of bags and I just took out
for a couple of bags and I just took out some cash and it was a bigger bill and
some cash and it was a bigger bill and
some cash and it was a bigger bill and the lady’s like no no no I don’t have
the lady’s like no no no I don’t have
the lady’s like no no no I don’t have change
change
change she’s like you pay me by and payza which
she’s like you pay me by and payza which
she’s like you pay me by and payza which is a mobile money transfer you can use
is a mobile money transfer you can use
is a mobile money transfer you can use buy smart or feature
buy smart or feature
buy smart or feature I might call it a little bitch either
I might call it a little bitch either
I might call it a little bitch either but I’m sorry we don’t have him paisa
but I’m sorry we don’t have him paisa
but I’m sorry we don’t have him paisa and she looked us like we were idiots
and she looked us like we were idiots
and she looked us like we were idiots oh oh okay Wow it’s coming back a little
oh oh okay Wow it’s coming back a little
oh oh okay Wow it’s coming back a little bit um I said I’m a development
bit um I said I’m a development
bit um I said I’m a development economist what does that mean what is
economist what does that mean what is
economist what does that mean what is development to me development it’s not
development to me development it’s not
development to me development it’s not about people in societies having more
about people in societies having more
about people in societies having more money it’s about people and societies
money it’s about people and societies
money it’s about people and societies having more choice at that point of view
having more choice at that point of view
having more choice at that point of view is founded in the capabilities framework
is founded in the capabilities framework
is founded in the capabilities framework so which is developed by March SN and
so which is developed by March SN and
so which is developed by March SN and the capabilities approach is about what
the capabilities approach is about what
the capabilities approach is about what you are able to do your capabilities are
you are able to do your capabilities are
you are able to do your capabilities are built from things like roads health
built from things like roads health
built from things like roads health safety having friends having knowledge
safety having friends having knowledge
safety having friends having knowledge access to the Internet all the things
access to the Internet all the things
access to the Internet all the things that together allow us to make choices
that together allow us to make choices
that together allow us to make choices about what today looks like and what
about what today looks like and what
about what today looks like and what tomorrow could look like so that’s the
tomorrow could look like so that’s the
tomorrow could look like so that’s the theory of development and I did of
theory of development and I did of
theory of development and I did of course our masters here at Cambridge
course our masters here at Cambridge
course our masters here at Cambridge about 10 years ago and since then I’ve
about 10 years ago and since then I’ve
about 10 years ago and since then I’ve been working in international
been working in international
been working in international development and social enterprise and
development and social enterprise and
development and social enterprise and warmer sleet at for good and I worked on
warmer sleet at for good and I worked on
warmer sleet at for good and I worked on the ground in Kenya in Malawi in
the ground in Kenya in Malawi in
the ground in Kenya in Malawi in southwestern China and Bhutan Vietnam
southwestern China and Bhutan Vietnam
southwestern China and Bhutan Vietnam and India and one of the things that is
and India and one of the things that is
and India and one of the things that is resoundingly true from the projects that
resoundingly true from the projects that
resoundingly true from the projects that I experienced on the ground is that they
I experienced on the ground is that they
I experienced on the ground is that they work better they succeed when people
work better they succeed when people
work better they succeed when people actually want them so to illustrate from
actually want them so to illustrate from
actually want them so to illustrate from personal experience I had a beekeeping
personal experience I had a beekeeping
personal experience I had a beekeeping training project in shangri-la which is
training project in shangri-la which is
training project in shangri-la which is in Himalayan Plateau and we wanted to do
in Himalayan Plateau and we wanted to do
in Himalayan Plateau and we wanted to do beekeeping for livelihood as we know
beekeeping for livelihood as we know
beekeeping for livelihood as we know it’s a good way for people with very few
it’s a good way for people with very few
it’s a good way for people with very few resources to be able to have a cash
resources to be able to have a cash
resources to be able to have a cash income it’s not great and there was this
income it’s not great and there was this
income it’s not great and there was this beautiful place and this community we
beautiful place and this community we
beautiful place and this community we knew well and it was surrounded by
knew well and it was surrounded by
knew well and it was surrounded by mountains looks like Switzerland and
mountains looks like Switzerland and
mountains looks like Switzerland and Switzerland you can make very nice honey
Switzerland you can make very nice honey
Switzerland you can make very nice honey so into the communities that would you
so into the communities that would you
so into the communities that would you like to keep bees and they’re like oh
like to keep bees and they’re like oh
like to keep bees and they’re like oh yeah okay we can keep bees and so we
yeah okay we can keep bees and so we
yeah okay we can keep bees and so we follow the best practice that I knew
follow the best practice that I knew
follow the best practice that I knew about at the time and the community
about at the time and the community
about at the time and the community leaders selected the five poorest
leaders selected the five poorest
leaders selected the five poorest families and they were each going to
families and they were each going to
families and they were each going to receive four hives and we found a
receive four hives and we found a
receive four hives and we found a beekeeping professor from Beijing that
beekeeping professor from Beijing that
beekeeping professor from Beijing that was gonna come and teach them how to
was gonna come and teach them how to
was gonna come and teach them how to keep these and fast forward one year no
keep these and fast forward one year no
keep these and fast forward one year no bee eyes left total failure you’re like
bee eyes left total failure you’re like
bee eyes left total failure you’re like uh you know sorry to investigate what
uh you know sorry to investigate what
uh you know sorry to investigate what had happened and so the first problem we
had happened and so the first problem we
had happened and so the first problem we identified was that actually the
identified was that actually the
identified was that actually the he’s came by truck the 20 hives and one
he’s came by truck the 20 hives and one
he’s came by truck the 20 hives and one of the beehives had fallen over in
of the beehives had fallen over in
of the beehives had fallen over in transit and the bees had flown away
transit and the bees had flown away
transit and the bees had flown away swarmed so there were 19 hives left and
swarmed so there were 19 hives left and
swarmed so there were 19 hives left and the community sat down thought you know
the community sat down thought you know
the community sat down thought you know how do you equitably distribute 19 hives
how do you equitably distribute 19 hives
how do you equitably distribute 19 hives don’t you hold them all in common so I
don’t you hold them all in common so I
don’t you hold them all in common so I mean we can all think about what the
mean we can all think about what the
mean we can all think about what the problems of everyone owning and not
problems of everyone owning and not
problems of everyone owning and not owning these hives and there were a
owning these hives and there were a
owning these hives and there were a number of problems like that we went
number of problems like that we went
number of problems like that we went through them one by one we worked out
through them one by one we worked out
through them one by one we worked out what all the solutions could be and then
what all the solutions could be and then
what all the solutions could be and then we went back to the community we said hi
we went back to the community we said hi
we went back to the community we said hi would you like to try beekeeping again
would you like to try beekeeping again
would you like to try beekeeping again we think we’re better at this now he
we think we’re better at this now he
we think we’re better at this now he said yeah you know that that could be
said yeah you know that that could be
said yeah you know that that could be okay but we’d really like to keep ducks
okay but we’d really like to keep ducks
okay but we’d really like to keep ducks and so development projects work when
and so development projects work when
and so development projects work when people want that when we ask an open
people want that when we ask an open
people want that when we ask an open question rather than would you like
question rather than would you like
question rather than would you like through this specific thing we happen to
through this specific thing we happen to
through this specific thing we happen to want to teach you I think that same
want to teach you I think that same
want to teach you I think that same logic applies to tech and innovation you
logic applies to tech and innovation you
logic applies to tech and innovation you know it does other people no it does how
know it does other people no it does how
know it does other people no it does how do we get innovation right for
do we get innovation right for
do we get innovation right for development is it about the having a
development is it about the having a
development is it about the having a vision you know a Steve Jobs memory you
vision you know a Steve Jobs memory you
vision you know a Steve Jobs memory you you can see a product in the future
you can see a product in the future
you can see a product in the future people will want and then you can tell
people will want and then you can tell
people will want and then you can tell them what it is and then they’ll know
them what it is and then they’ll know
them what it is and then they’ll know they want it no needed forever you know
they want it no needed forever you know
they want it no needed forever you know or is it you map out all the things that
or is it you map out all the things that
or is it you map out all the things that people seem to need that seem to be
people seem to need that seem to be
people seem to need that seem to be missing in their lives and you try to
missing in their lives and you try to
missing in their lives and you try to build one of those things or is it some
build one of those things or is it some
build one of those things or is it some combination I think a very interesting
combination I think a very interesting
combination I think a very interesting example sort of walk through this
example sort of walk through this
example sort of walk through this process is looking at and Peyser
process is looking at and Peyser
process is looking at and Peyser what the lady wanted us to use to pay
what the lady wanted us to use to pay
what the lady wanted us to use to pay for those peanuts in 2015 43 percent of
for those peanuts in 2015 43 percent of
for those peanuts in 2015 43 percent of the Kenyan GDP flowed through and paisa
the Kenyan GDP flowed through and paisa
the Kenyan GDP flowed through and paisa a resounding success
a resounding success
a resounding success you know hugely and transformative and
you know hugely and transformative and
you know hugely and transformative and important almost replaces banking makes
important almost replaces banking makes
important almost replaces banking makes banking where there is bank no banking
banking where there is bank no banking
banking where there is bank no banking for poor people and pace that was
for poor people and pace that was
for poor people and pace that was originally incubated by differed the
originally incubated by differed the
originally incubated by differed the Department for International Development
Department for International Development
Department for International Development of the UK and different funded
of the UK and different funded
of the UK and different funded researcher who noticed that Kenyans were
researcher who noticed that Kenyans were
researcher who noticed that Kenyans were giving each other mobile airtime credit
giving each other mobile airtime credit
giving each other mobile airtime credit as a proxy for money and that got them
as a proxy for money and that got them
as a proxy for money and that got them thinking about what was possible and I
thinking about what was possible and I
thinking about what was possible and I started talking to Vodafone who was
started talking to Vodafone who was
started talking to Vodafone who was already working on a microfinance
already working on a microfinance
already working on a microfinance product because they wanted to give
product because they wanted to give
product because they wanted to give access to the poor people but also have
access to the poor people but also have
access to the poor people but also have more customers eventually and build
more customers eventually and build
more customers eventually and build build people up and together these two
build people up and together these two
build people up and together these two organizations incubated this amazing
organizations incubated this amazing
organizations incubated this amazing service that actually
service that actually
service that actually captured what people were looking for
captured what people were looking for
captured what people were looking for and as such filled their needs there are
and as such filled their needs there are
and as such filled their needs there are huge opportunities the cost of
huge opportunities the cost of
huge opportunities the cost of connectivity is plummeting people have
connectivity is plummeting people have
connectivity is plummeting people have access to information education they
access to information education they
access to information education they have not had access before and in 2020
have not had access before and in 2020
have not had access before and in 2020 it’s estimated that seven point six
it’s estimated that seven point six
it’s estimated that seven point six billion people will be online there’s a
billion people will be online there’s a
billion people will be online there’s a lot of people and then on the side of it
lot of people and then on the side of it
lot of people and then on the side of it you know we can envision the feature
you know we can envision the feature
you know we can envision the feature phones and pay so things that we can
phones and pay so things that we can
phones and pay so things that we can already see work well yes yes yes now
already see work well yes yes yes now
already see work well yes yes yes now it’s obvious that works so well but
it’s obvious that works so well but
it’s obvious that works so well but there’s robotics
there’s robotics
there’s robotics there’s artificial intelligence there’s
there’s artificial intelligence there’s
there’s artificial intelligence there’s 3d printing
3d printing
3d printing there’s augmented reality there might be
there’s augmented reality there might be
there’s augmented reality there might be things from these tools that will have
things from these tools that will have
things from these tools that will have amazing and transformative application
amazing and transformative application
amazing and transformative application for the problems the developing world
for the problems the developing world
for the problems the developing world and allowing them to leapfrog things
and allowing them to leapfrog things
and allowing them to leapfrog things that have taken a very long cumbersome
that have taken a very long cumbersome
that have taken a very long cumbersome process for us to get to for instance
process for us to get to for instance
process for us to get to for instance having a grid very cool companies are
having a grid very cool companies are
having a grid very cool companies are m-kopa and cello they’re a little bit
m-kopa and cello they’re a little bit
m-kopa and cello they’re a little bit similar a little bit different I think
similar a little bit different I think
similar a little bit different I think more will pop up around this area but
more will pop up around this area but
more will pop up around this area but basically with cello you get a TV you
basically with cello you get a TV you
basically with cello you get a TV you get a TV that is so they’re charged but
get a TV that is so they’re charged but
get a TV that is so they’re charged but it’s connected to stations but you don’t
it’s connected to stations but you don’t
it’s connected to stations but you don’t pay for it you pay per play of programs
pay for it you pay per play of programs
pay for it you pay per play of programs you wanted to watch so this person
you wanted to watch so this person
you wanted to watch so this person didn’t have to buy a TV set they didn’t
didn’t have to buy a TV set they didn’t
didn’t have to buy a TV set they didn’t have to have any connection to an
have to have any connection to an
have to have any connection to an electrical grid they just need to be
electrical grid they just need to be
electrical grid they just need to be able to afford to watch a program and
able to afford to watch a program and
able to afford to watch a program and people demand entertainment you know
people demand entertainment you know
people demand entertainment you know it’s an aspiration to have this consumer
it’s an aspiration to have this consumer
it’s an aspiration to have this consumer good and this access to what people are
good and this access to what people are
good and this access to what people are up to
up to
up to another example that I really like is
another example that I really like is
another example that I really like is how their foundation has a prize for a
how their foundation has a prize for a
how their foundation has a prize for a development journalist and the call this
development journalist and the call this
development journalist and the call this year was about how is digital technology
year was about how is digital technology
year was about how is digital technology transforming development and one of my
transforming development and one of my
transforming development and one of my favorite articles was about town in
favorite articles was about town in
favorite articles was about town in Zimbabwe where there is a big whatsapp
Zimbabwe where there is a big whatsapp
Zimbabwe where there is a big whatsapp group and the mayor is on it and lots of
group and the mayor is on it and lots of
group and the mayor is on it and lots of concerned citizens are on it and so when
concerned citizens are on it and so when
concerned citizens are on it and so when something goes wrong so there’s a
something goes wrong so there’s a
something goes wrong so there’s a pothole or the pipe is broken they start
pothole or the pipe is broken they start
pothole or the pipe is broken they start what sapping away on this group and they
what sapping away on this group and they
what sapping away on this group and they know he can see he knows they know he
know he can see he knows they know he
know he can see he knows they know he can see and so he fixes things in real
can see and so he fixes things in real
can see and so he fixes things in real time because there’s no longer a middle
time because there’s no longer a middle
time because there’s no longer a middle president between the two so thinking
president between the two so thinking
president between the two so thinking back to what what we’re trying to do now
back to what what we’re trying to do now
back to what what we’re trying to do now with
with
with our focus is on sustainable locally
our focus is on sustainable locally
our focus is on sustainable locally viable agriculture so what the poorest
viable agriculture so what the poorest
viable agriculture so what the poorest the poor can do with the resources they
the poor can do with the resources they
the poor can do with the resources they have that it’s also good husbandry with
have that it’s also good husbandry with
have that it’s also good husbandry with the land they have protecting and
the land they have protecting and
the land they have protecting and restoring topsoil we have an app for
restoring topsoil we have an app for
restoring topsoil we have an app for farmers and when this job of communicate
farmers and when this job of communicate
farmers and when this job of communicate of was so excited it was all the things
of was so excited it was all the things
of was so excited it was all the things that I wanted to do and I got it and
that I wanted to do and I got it and
that I wanted to do and I got it and then the board is like okay and we have
then the board is like okay and we have
then the board is like okay and we have a goal to take our app to five million
a goal to take our app to five million
a goal to take our app to five million small holders by 2020 okay because
small holders by 2020 okay because
small holders by 2020 okay because there’s this thing about what people
there’s this thing about what people
there’s this thing about what people want an expressed demand and also what
want an expressed demand and also what
want an expressed demand and also what we think is useful and it’s not like
we think is useful and it’s not like
we think is useful and it’s not like we’re actually selling you know
we’re actually selling you know
we’re actually selling you know information about Kim Kardashian or
information about Kim Kardashian or
information about Kim Kardashian or Beyonce’s baby with a football you know
Beyonce’s baby with a football you know
Beyonce’s baby with a football you know people definitely want that you know you
people definitely want that you know you
people definitely want that you know you know people really want to know about
know people really want to know about
know people really want to know about sustainable ways to farm and resourceful
sustainable ways to farm and resourceful
sustainable ways to farm and resourceful methods someone does so thinking back to
methods someone does so thinking back to
methods someone does so thinking back to what I know I’m doing this course online
what I know I’m doing this course online
what I know I’m doing this course online and why do I do it and why will I keep
and why do I do it and why will I keep
and why do I do it and why will I keep doing it I’m doing with a group of
doing it I’m doing with a group of
doing it I’m doing with a group of people offline so I told them I was
people offline so I told them I was
people offline so I told them I was going to do it and we start at the same
going to do it and we start at the same
going to do it and we start at the same time and we have to meet and so I feel
time and we have to meet and so I feel
time and we have to meet and so I feel really bad disappointing them so I’ll
really bad disappointing them so I’ll
really bad disappointing them so I’ll definitely keep doing it and also if I
definitely keep doing it and also if I
definitely keep doing it and also if I don’t know how to do something hopefully
don’t know how to do something hopefully
don’t know how to do something hopefully they can explain it and then the course
they can explain it and then the course
they can explain it and then the course would progress through stages and so I
would progress through stages and so I
would progress through stages and so I feel successful for having learned
feel successful for having learned
feel successful for having learned something and also I think that this is
something and also I think that this is
something and also I think that this is something will help me do my job better
something will help me do my job better
something will help me do my job better I believe that this information will be
I believe that this information will be
I believe that this information will be somehow useful to what I’m actually
somehow useful to what I’m actually
somehow useful to what I’m actually trying to do so these three reasons make
trying to do so these three reasons make
trying to do so these three reasons make me want to take this course and will
me want to take this course and will
me want to take this course and will keep me in it so thinking about as a
keep me in it so thinking about as a
keep me in it so thinking about as a farmer in Kenya most of the farmers
farmer in Kenya most of the farmers
farmer in Kenya most of the farmers regrets are women so let’s think about
regrets are women so let’s think about
regrets are women so let’s think about this this lady ultra poor farmer in
this this lady ultra poor farmer in
this this lady ultra poor farmer in Kenya what we know about her we know
Kenya what we know about her we know
Kenya what we know about her we know that she learns through storytelling
that she learns through storytelling
that she learns through storytelling it’s a storytelling culture she may or
it’s a storytelling culture she may or
it’s a storytelling culture she may or may not be in a generation where people
may not be in a generation where people
may not be in a generation where people are educated and are fully literate but
are educated and are fully literate but
are educated and are fully literate but she’s an amazing memory because she
she’s an amazing memory because she
she’s an amazing memory because she tells these full stories and she
tells these full stories and she
tells these full stories and she remembers these full stories also I know
remembers these full stories also I know
remembers these full stories also I know there are challenges and confidence and
there are challenges and confidence and
there are challenges and confidence and aversion to wrists so she’s very likely
aversion to wrists so she’s very likely
aversion to wrists so she’s very likely to want to plant what she planted last
to want to plant what she planted last
to want to plant what she planted last year because she more or less knows
year because she more or less knows
year because she more or less knows what’s going to happen whether side if
what’s going to happen whether side if
what’s going to happen whether side if she changes and it doesn’t go well you
she changes and it doesn’t go well you
she changes and it doesn’t go well you know there’s no food so the risks are
know there’s no food so the risks are
know there’s no food so the risks are huge we also know that these women want
huge we also know that these women want
huge we also know that these women want to improve the lives of themselves and
to improve the lives of themselves and
to improve the lives of themselves and their families they want their kids to
their families they want their kids to
their families they want their kids to be able to go to school it will afford
be able to go to school it will afford
be able to go to school it will afford the books their kids need to go to
the books their kids need to go to
the books their kids need to go to school in the uniforms they need to go
school in the uniforms they need to go
school in the uniforms they need to go to school so we know there is some
to school so we know there is some
to school so we know there is some interest there well I think is very
interest there well I think is very
interest there well I think is very important is that development and
important is that development and
important is that development and tech4good and projects all of these
tech4good and projects all of these
tech4good and projects all of these well-meaning things that we’re trying to
well-meaning things that we’re trying to
well-meaning things that we’re trying to do with other people have to be centered
do with other people have to be centered
do with other people have to be centered in pull versus push they’re not pushing
in pull versus push they’re not pushing
in pull versus push they’re not pushing what we think is useful but working out
what we think is useful but working out
what we think is useful but working out what we wish to do and then looking
what we wish to do and then looking
what we wish to do and then looking around to see what do people actually
around to see what do people actually
around to see what do people actually need what are they already doing that
need what are they already doing that
need what are they already doing that could be adapted or the resources that
could be adapted or the resources that
could be adapted or the resources that we have could make their lives a little
we have could make their lives a little
we have could make their lives a little bit easier in their journey do that
bit easier in their journey do that
bit easier in their journey do that thing going back to n paisa and paisa
thing going back to n paisa and paisa
thing going back to n paisa and paisa obviously works is the idea that we
obviously works is the idea that we
obviously works is the idea that we should recreate it you know development
should recreate it you know development
should recreate it you know development we’re like god it’s a great success the
we’re like god it’s a great success the
we’re like god it’s a great success the case study let’s do that again that’s
case study let’s do that again that’s
case study let’s do that again that’s somewhere else it hasn’t worked that
somewhere else it hasn’t worked that
somewhere else it hasn’t worked that well they’re places or is it to think
well they’re places or is it to think
well they’re places or is it to think about what it is that we do and to find
about what it is that we do and to find
about what it is that we do and to find someone who actually wants that and that
someone who actually wants that and that
someone who actually wants that and that group of people those people they will
group of people those people they will
group of people those people they will know if the way that we’re developing
know if the way that we’re developing
know if the way that we’re developing the service is actually useful or not
the service is actually useful or not
the service is actually useful or not and they can tell us those beekeeping
and they can tell us those beekeeping
and they can tell us those beekeeping training projects when we finally found
training projects when we finally found
training projects when we finally found communities that were just desperate to
communities that were just desperate to
communities that were just desperate to have better methods for keeping bees it
have better methods for keeping bees it
have better methods for keeping bees it was so much easier work too cheap and
was so much easier work too cheap and
was so much easier work too cheap and equally we know that there are ladies
equally we know that there are ladies
equally we know that there are ladies that we work with directly who want to
that we work with directly who want to
that we work with directly who want to improve their livelihoods and
improve their livelihoods and
improve their livelihoods and agriculture is the way it is the means
agriculture is the way it is the means
agriculture is the way it is the means they have available to them isn’t and
they have available to them isn’t and
they have available to them isn’t and they moderately know how to do you know
they moderately know how to do you know
they moderately know how to do you know thing this conference is jumping off the
thing this conference is jumping off the
thing this conference is jumping off the shoulders of giants let’s say em pace as
shoulders of giants let’s say em pace as
shoulders of giants let’s say em pace as a giant and we can learn from how they
a giant and we can learn from how they
a giant and we can learn from how they did what they did not what they did in
did what they did not what they did in
did what they did not what they did in that sense I think the call is really to
that sense I think the call is really to
that sense I think the call is really to have a passion and find a problem thank
have a passion and find a problem thank
have a passion and find a problem thank you
you
you [Applause]
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