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[Applause] hello everybody

hello everybody

hello everybody today I’ll be actually sharing with you

today I’ll be actually sharing with you

today I’ll be actually sharing with you a story that started 5000 years ago yes

a story that started 5000 years ago yes

a story that started 5000 years ago yes it is the story of metal casting in

it is the story of metal casting in

it is the story of metal casting in India this little figurine this little

India this little figurine this little

India this little figurine this little figurine that you’re seeing in my hand

figurine that you’re seeing in my hand

figurine that you’re seeing in my hand this is a copy of the dancing girl the

this is a copy of the dancing girl the

this is a copy of the dancing girl the bronze figurine which was found in the

bronze figurine which was found in the

bronze figurine which was found in the excavations of mohenjo-daro and that

excavations of mohenjo-daro and that

excavations of mohenjo-daro and that goes back 3,000 years BCE so this was as

goes back 3,000 years BCE so this was as

goes back 3,000 years BCE so this was as cited as the first example of metal

cited as the first example of metal

cited as the first example of metal casting using the lost wax technique

casting using the lost wax technique

casting using the lost wax technique lost-wax technique to tell you simply is

lost-wax technique to tell you simply is

lost-wax technique to tell you simply is you know first you create the thing in

you know first you create the thing in

you know first you create the thing in wax then you cover it with two layers of

wax then you cover it with two layers of

wax then you cover it with two layers of clay you allow it to dry then you fire

clay you allow it to dry then you fire

clay you allow it to dry then you fire it so the wax melts hence the name the

it so the wax melts hence the name the

it so the wax melts hence the name the lost wax technique then you pour molten

lost wax technique then you pour molten

lost wax technique then you pour molten brass into it within minutes it

brass into it within minutes it

brass into it within minutes it solidifies and you break open the mold

solidifies and you break open the mold

solidifies and you break open the mold so by definition each piece is unique

so by definition each piece is unique

so by definition each piece is unique because you have broken open the mold

because you have broken open the mold

because you have broken open the mold what is amazing is that this ancient

what is amazing is that this ancient

what is amazing is that this ancient technique is still practiced today in

technique is still practiced today in

technique is still practiced today in many parts of our country and not much

many parts of our country and not much

many parts of our country and not much has changed today what I’m going to talk

has changed today what I’m going to talk

has changed today what I’m going to talk to you about is how we have evolved this

to you about is how we have evolved this

to you about is how we have evolved this now when you talk of evolving tradition

now when you talk of evolving tradition

now when you talk of evolving tradition it seems a bit contradictory because

it seems a bit contradictory because

it seems a bit contradictory because tradition is something that continues

tradition is something that continues

tradition is something that continues from the past something that we cherish

from the past something that we cherish

from the past something that we cherish almost against the onslaught of the

almost against the onslaught of the

almost against the onslaught of the modern so it seems like an oxymoron when

modern so it seems like an oxymoron when

modern so it seems like an oxymoron when I say that you know what is evolving

I say that you know what is evolving

I say that you know what is evolving today

today

today but I realized that ours is a living

but I realized that ours is a living

but I realized that ours is a living tradition and if you you cannot preserve

tradition and if you you cannot preserve

tradition and if you you cannot preserve it like a museum piece

it like a museum piece

it like a museum piece you cannot preserve it like a fossil

you cannot preserve it like a fossil

you cannot preserve it like a fossil like a mummy from Egypt more than

like a mummy from Egypt more than

like a mummy from Egypt more than preserving it has to be nurtured and

preserving it has to be nurtured and

preserving it has to be nurtured and this is what then you know if I were to

this is what then you know if I were to

this is what then you know if I were to join now my story to this five thousand

join now my story to this five thousand

join now my story to this five thousand years of tradition it begins only 20

years of tradition it begins only 20

years of tradition it begins only 20 years back when we came from Mumbai to

years back when we came from Mumbai to

years back when we came from Mumbai to punch Guinea lock stock and barrel

punch Guinea lock stock and barrel

punch Guinea lock stock and barrel with the two kids I mean has been

with the two kids I mean has been

with the two kids I mean has been talking about they were very tiny then

talking about they were very tiny then

talking about they were very tiny then and it was in fact I started my work

and it was in fact I started my work

and it was in fact I started my work with a diverse ee artists only ten years

with a diverse ee artists only ten years

with a diverse ee artists only ten years back and it was under this tree under

back and it was under this tree under

back and it was under this tree under this tree that the work started when I

this tree that the work started when I

this tree that the work started when I met Suresh Bugatti and I reversed the

met Suresh Bugatti and I reversed the

met Suresh Bugatti and I reversed the artists teacher in one of the schools

artists teacher in one of the schools

artists teacher in one of the schools here and soon we started growing and

here and soon we started growing and

here and soon we started growing and next picture I’d show you this is our

next picture I’d show you this is our

next picture I’d show you this is our first group of apprentices in fact who

first group of apprentices in fact who

first group of apprentices in fact who are now master craftsmen who are living

are now master craftsmen who are living

are now master craftsmen who are living here in Panch Guinea in fact two of them

here in Panch Guinea in fact two of them

here in Panch Guinea in fact two of them have also got married and now we are

have also got married and now we are

have also got married and now we are actually growing like the community you

actually growing like the community you

actually growing like the community you know one day what happened I noticed a

know one day what happened I noticed a

know one day what happened I noticed a lot of whispers and some secretive thing

lot of whispers and some secretive thing

lot of whispers and some secretive thing going on between the craftsmen the

going on between the craftsmen the

going on between the craftsmen the apprentices and when I asked them they

apprentices and when I asked them they

apprentices and when I asked them they showed me this they were making it as a

showed me this they were making it as a

showed me this they were making it as a birthday present for Teresa another

birthday present for Teresa another

birthday present for Teresa another irony you know I tell the story of the

irony you know I tell the story of the

irony you know I tell the story of the riot village with this because the irony

riot village with this because the irony

riot village with this because the irony is that that if this boy hadn’t

is that that if this boy hadn’t

is that that if this boy hadn’t commander you know hadn’t come to us he

commander you know hadn’t come to us he

commander you know hadn’t come to us he could have been recruited by the

could have been recruited by the

could have been recruited by the Naxalites and could have been using a

Naxalites and could have been using a

Naxalites and could have been using a real gun

real gun

real gun so one realize that if you’re thinking

so one realize that if you’re thinking

so one realize that if you’re thinking of sustaining art you have to think of

of sustaining art you have to think of

of sustaining art you have to think of the artist cut bit in the crossfire

the artist cut bit in the crossfire

the artist cut bit in the crossfire between the Naxalites and the police the

between the Naxalites and the police the

between the Naxalites and the police the state without any marketing facilities

state without any marketing facilities

state without any marketing facilities yes very little choice left this is how

yes very little choice left this is how

yes very little choice left this is how we began and so then one had to think

we began and so then one had to think

we began and so then one had to think about how to make it into a living for

about how to make it into a living for

about how to make it into a living for them so can you see this gun now this is

them so can you see this gun now this is

them so can you see this gun now this is stone and this is brass now this fusion

stone and this is brass now this fusion

stone and this is brass now this fusion of stone and brass this technique was

of stone and brass this technique was

of stone and brass this technique was never tried in the five

never tried in the five

never tried in the five thousand-year-old history of this art

thousand-year-old history of this art

thousand-year-old history of this art form which is now known as doe Kragh so

form which is now known as doe Kragh so

form which is now known as doe Kragh so it’d be kinda the very simple desire in

it’d be kinda the very simple desire in

it’d be kinda the very simple desire in my mind I had seen statues made in metal

my mind I had seen statues made in metal

my mind I had seen statues made in metal and satyrs made and stone could we put

and satyrs made and stone could we put

and satyrs made and stone could we put it together and integrate it into one

it together and integrate it into one

it together and integrate it into one hole

hole

hole so with two years of experimentation and

so with two years of experimentation and

so with two years of experimentation and a lot of hard work we finally cracked it

a lot of hard work we finally cracked it

a lot of hard work we finally cracked it so this was a first piece nature goddess

so this was a first piece nature goddess

so this was a first piece nature goddess once this was a success then of course

once this was a success then of course

once this was a success then of course we started flying as if so just to

we started flying as if so just to

we started flying as if so just to compare it with traditional Tokra craft

compare it with traditional Tokra craft

compare it with traditional Tokra craft I’ll show you now this is traditional

I’ll show you now this is traditional

I’ll show you now this is traditional Tokra craft and so here there is a basic

Tokra craft and so here there is a basic

Tokra craft and so here there is a basic core of clay and they do it but it’s so

core of clay and they do it but it’s so

core of clay and they do it but it’s so sad to think that today in Chattisgarh

sad to think that today in Chattisgarh

sad to think that today in Chattisgarh often I hear when these craftsmen come

often I hear when these craftsmen come

often I hear when these craftsmen come there art pieces are sold by the kilo so

there art pieces are sold by the kilo so

there art pieces are sold by the kilo so this is the condition why because it has

this is the condition why because it has

this is the condition why because it has lost its vitality if you keep on

lost its vitality if you keep on

lost its vitality if you keep on repeating the same thing it loses its

repeating the same thing it loses its

repeating the same thing it loses its energy and how many of the same thing

energy and how many of the same thing

energy and how many of the same thing can you expect to sell so something had

can you expect to sell so something had

can you expect to sell so something had to be done so that’s

to be done so that’s

to be done so that’s what one thought of evolving tradition

what one thought of evolving tradition

what one thought of evolving tradition when I talk of evolving tradition like

when I talk of evolving tradition like

when I talk of evolving tradition like Beauty said that the constant is there

Beauty said that the constant is there

Beauty said that the constant is there is you know you have to retain the

is you know you have to retain the

is you know you have to retain the essential spirit yet it has to be

essential spirit yet it has to be

essential spirit yet it has to be contemporary and appeal to a wider

contemporary and appeal to a wider

contemporary and appeal to a wider audience

audience

audience so now see what we have done to the same

so now see what we have done to the same

so now see what we have done to the same thing this is the rock and brass fusion

thing this is the rock and brass fusion

thing this is the rock and brass fusion once we started of course bigger pieces

once we started of course bigger pieces

once we started of course bigger pieces using two stones chameleon pigs flying

using two stones chameleon pigs flying

using two stones chameleon pigs flying peacock in our garden which is installed

peacock in our garden which is installed

peacock in our garden which is installed there and now this was a very big thing

there and now this was a very big thing

there and now this was a very big thing which we did last year this 12-foot

which we did last year this 12-foot

which we did last year this 12-foot statue of the winged human taking off

statue of the winged human taking off

statue of the winged human taking off from a pile of moose this was installed

from a pile of moose this was installed

from a pile of moose this was installed in Delhi University Hindu college and

in Delhi University Hindu college and

in Delhi University Hindu college and you can see the wing why I am showing

you can see the wing why I am showing

you can see the wing why I am showing you this is that this wing was made with

you this is that this wing was made with

you this is that this wing was made with about thousand feathers of Maidan wax

about thousand feathers of Maidan wax

about thousand feathers of Maidan wax and lost-wax technique of metal casting

and lost-wax technique of metal casting

and lost-wax technique of metal casting has this its inherent risks because when

has this its inherent risks because when

has this its inherent risks because when you’re pouring brass into it molten

you’re pouring brass into it molten

you’re pouring brass into it molten brass it need not reached the end so

brass it need not reached the end so

brass it need not reached the end so when it was being broken open we had our

when it was being broken open we had our

when it was being broken open we had our hearts in our hands is the brass reach

hearts in our hands is the brass reach

hearts in our hands is the brass reach the end

the end

the end luckily it had otherwise we would have

luckily it had otherwise we would have

luckily it had otherwise we would have had to do the whole process and bigger

had to do the whole process and bigger

had to do the whole process and bigger than this challenge was of course this

than this challenge was of course this

than this challenge was of course this Nandi weighing 900 kilos now when you

Nandi weighing 900 kilos now when you

Nandi weighing 900 kilos now when you scale it up casting or small thing is

scale it up casting or small thing is

scale it up casting or small thing is easy but imagine 900 kilos of hot Nandi

easy but imagine 900 kilos of hot Nandi

easy but imagine 900 kilos of hot Nandi the mold red-hot and pouring 300 kilos

the mold red-hot and pouring 300 kilos

the mold red-hot and pouring 300 kilos of molten brass into it yeah and you

of molten brass into it yeah and you

of molten brass into it yeah and you have to do it fast because it can

have to do it fast because it can

have to do it fast because it can solidify after three failures finally

solidify after three failures finally

solidify after three failures finally this is ready and this is also installed

this is ready and this is also installed

this is ready and this is also installed in Delhi University I will show you a

in Delhi University I will show you a

in Delhi University I will show you a little process video to give you an idea

little process video to give you an idea

little process video to give you an idea how from stone till the end what goes

how from stone till the end what goes

how from stone till the end what goes into it

so tradition is really like a tree the

so tradition is really like a tree the more deeper you go the more the branches

more deeper you go the more the branches

more deeper you go the more the branches spread and you get fruits now we have

spread and you get fruits now we have

spread and you get fruits now we have even started sculpting stone slightly

even started sculpting stone slightly

even started sculpting stone slightly the stone has to be very hard so it’s

the stone has to be very hard so it’s

the stone has to be very hard so it’s very difficult to sculpt basalt but now

very difficult to sculpt basalt but now

very difficult to sculpt basalt but now this is added a different dimension and

this is added a different dimension and

this is added a different dimension and you know after all this one it was Asif

you know after all this one it was Asif

you know after all this one it was Asif one had tasted blood and we began with

one had tasted blood and we began with

one had tasted blood and we began with other kinds of experimentation

other kinds of experimentation

other kinds of experimentation terracotta so terracotta and brass

terracotta so terracotta and brass

terracotta so terracotta and brass fusion I have a piece here too so this

fusion I have a piece here too so this

fusion I have a piece here too so this is on terracotta we do the wax work like

is on terracotta we do the wax work like

is on terracotta we do the wax work like this and then it is cast this flask I’d

this and then it is cast this flask I’d

this and then it is cast this flask I’d got from Rajasthan it’s got transformed

got from Rajasthan it’s got transformed

got from Rajasthan it’s got transformed into a lamp shade again broken pieces of

into a lamp shade again broken pieces of

into a lamp shade again broken pieces of pottery they get transformed into

pendants we’ve even broken pieces of

pendants we’ve even broken pieces of cutlery this was the tea mug which is no

cutlery this was the tea mug which is no

cutlery this was the tea mug which is no part of jewellery

part of jewellery

part of jewellery so this is what I want to tell you what

so this is what I want to tell you what

so this is what I want to tell you what evolving tradition it means for me now

evolving tradition it means for me now

evolving tradition it means for me now look at this this is a very simple toy I

look at this this is a very simple toy I

look at this this is a very simple toy I mean it’s made in Buster bitter not and

mean it’s made in Buster bitter not and

mean it’s made in Buster bitter not and using the principle of balancing not not

using the principle of balancing not not

using the principle of balancing not not much has changed now it does this really

much has changed now it does this really

much has changed now it does this really do the same thing what we have done here

do the same thing what we have done here

do the same thing what we have done here is actually look at this so this is what

is actually look at this so this is what

is actually look at this so this is what evolving tradition is for me

evolving tradition is for me

evolving tradition is for me [Applause]

again taking inspiration from nature

again taking inspiration from nature Bohemia branch we were almost the middle

Bohemia branch we were almost the middle

Bohemia branch we were almost the middle botanical series so now you know the

botanical series so now you know the

botanical series so now you know the traditional way of doing things is you

traditional way of doing things is you

traditional way of doing things is you have a traditional motive of a tree year

have a traditional motive of a tree year

have a traditional motive of a tree year or a bird we are actually copying actual

or a bird we are actually copying actual

or a bird we are actually copying actual birds so I have other things with real

birds so I have other things with real

birds so I have other things with real birds but of paradise with its long tail

birds but of paradise with its long tail

birds but of paradise with its long tail and monkeys on the moon bottle openers

and monkeys on the moon bottle openers

and monkeys on the moon bottle openers after this now we became more bold and

after this now we became more bold and

after this now we became more bold and I’m going to start with something else

I’m going to start with something else

I’m going to start with something else which we started doing can you see this

which we started doing can you see this

which we started doing can you see this baby monkey skull this has got to by our

baby monkey skull this has got to by our

baby monkey skull this has got to by our dog in fact and we just covered it with

dog in fact and we just covered it with

dog in fact and we just covered it with clay and casted the original skull is

clay and casted the original skull is

clay and casted the original skull is burnt out and now it is brass so this is

burnt out and now it is brass so this is

burnt out and now it is brass so this is what you know what I’m going to be

what you know what I’m going to be

what you know what I’m going to be talking about is organic casting what we

talking about is organic casting what we

talking about is organic casting what we call now

call now

call now so branches creepers turn into

so branches creepers turn into

so branches creepers turn into door-handles antlers of the stag are

door-handles antlers of the stag are

door-handles antlers of the stag are made with branches and that’s how it

made with branches and that’s how it

made with branches and that’s how it looked later meat cheese leave that this

looked later meat cheese leave that this

looked later meat cheese leave that this kind of texture no human hand can

kind of texture no human hand can

kind of texture no human hand can possibly replicate one thing I realized

possibly replicate one thing I realized

possibly replicate one thing I realized was that art is a powerful medium to

was that art is a powerful medium to

was that art is a powerful medium to commune with nature and when we have

commune with nature and when we have

commune with nature and when we have this is something which are actually the

this is something which are actually the

this is something which are actually the modern world is losing out we are all

modern world is losing out we are all

modern world is losing out we are all suffering from what they say nature

suffering from what they say nature

suffering from what they say nature deficit disorder and I found an art of

deficit disorder and I found an art of

deficit disorder and I found an art of Airy powerful medium of connecting the

Airy powerful medium of connecting the

Airy powerful medium of connecting the youth and also sensitizing them to the

youth and also sensitizing them to the

youth and also sensitizing them to the needs for conservation and so when we

needs for conservation and so when we

needs for conservation and so when we have groups of children and youth and

have groups of children and youth and

have groups of children and youth and architects and interns we first thing we

architects and interns we first thing we

architects and interns we first thing we asked them to do is observe nature and

asked them to do is observe nature and

asked them to do is observe nature and that’s where they get their ideas of

that’s where they get their ideas of

that’s where they get their ideas of desire

desire

desire all from and this is in fact made by

all from and this is in fact made by

all from and this is in fact made by those who have come for the workshop to

those who have come for the workshop to

those who have come for the workshop to learn and it’s not that you are living

learn and it’s not that you are living

learn and it’s not that you are living tradition but you are taking it to a

tradition but you are taking it to a

tradition but you are taking it to a different dimension so the fireball the

different dimension so the fireball the

different dimension so the fireball the iron man I see children their eyes

iron man I see children their eyes

iron man I see children their eyes lighting up with delight when they come

lighting up with delight when they come

lighting up with delight when they come to when they see this so we are trying

to when they see this so we are trying

to when they see this so we are trying to create become a bridge between

to create become a bridge between

to create become a bridge between metropolitan cities and these far-flung

metropolitan cities and these far-flung

metropolitan cities and these far-flung tribal areas between the indigenous and

tribal areas between the indigenous and

tribal areas between the indigenous and the modern between mohenjo-daro and

the modern between mohenjo-daro and

the modern between mohenjo-daro and Mumbai and that is what is required if

Mumbai and that is what is required if

Mumbai and that is what is required if we want to keep the tradition alive so

we want to keep the tradition alive so

we want to keep the tradition alive so to end it all it’s not just about art

to end it all it’s not just about art

to end it all it’s not just about art that I’m talking it applies to

that I’m talking it applies to

that I’m talking it applies to everything any living thing that has a

everything any living thing that has a

everything any living thing that has a past whether it is a culture a community

past whether it is a culture a community

past whether it is a culture a community a country a religion if we kind of just

a country a religion if we kind of just

a country a religion if we kind of just be limited with our tradition and past

be limited with our tradition and past

be limited with our tradition and past then there’s no growth you’re the past

then there’s no growth you’re the past

then there’s no growth you’re the past tradition is nothing but a springboard I

tradition is nothing but a springboard I

tradition is nothing but a springboard I would like to leave with this something

would like to leave with this something

would like to leave with this something that I wrote because it resonates with

that I wrote because it resonates with

that I wrote because it resonates with this the same thing what I’ve been

this the same thing what I’ve been

this the same thing what I’ve been talking about the same meaning it’s

talking about the same meaning it’s

talking about the same meaning it’s about the weight of time in the

about the weight of time in the

about the weight of time in the hourglass of a lifetime the bottom seems

hourglass of a lifetime the bottom seems

hourglass of a lifetime the bottom seems almost full yet to feel that one is

almost full yet to feel that one is

almost full yet to feel that one is varying a mask of old age that could be

varying a mask of old age that could be

varying a mask of old age that could be flung aside and become a child of five

flung aside and become a child of five

flung aside and become a child of five discovering the earth and the sky I’m

discovering the earth and the sky I’m

discovering the earth and the sky I’m heavy with experience it’s time to turn

heavy with experience it’s time to turn

heavy with experience it’s time to turn the hourglass upside down

ladies and gentlemen thank you so much

ladies and gentlemen thank you so much for taking time out and coming and

for taking time out and coming and

for taking time out and coming and listening to this story I’ll just like

listening to this story I’ll just like

listening to this story I’ll just like to leave y’all with this thought how

to leave y’all with this thought how

to leave y’all with this thought how many hourglasses of your life are you

many hourglasses of your life are you

many hourglasses of your life are you willing to turn over thank you

willing to turn over thank you

willing to turn over thank you [Applause]

[Applause]

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