hi everybody my name’s crowd covey I’m a gay activist that
crowd covey I’m a gay activist that
crowd covey I’m a gay activist that means I’m a homosexual
means I’m a homosexual
means I’m a homosexual and basically I’ve come here not really
and basically I’ve come here not really
and basically I’ve come here not really to talk about homosexuality in general
to talk about homosexuality in general
to talk about homosexuality in general but I’m broadening out the subject and
but I’m broadening out the subject and
but I’m broadening out the subject and looking at patriarchy as a prison and
looking at patriarchy as a prison and
looking at patriarchy as a prison and how we homosexuals are equal prisoners
how we homosexuals are equal prisoners
how we homosexuals are equal prisoners of it how we transcend some of these
of it how we transcend some of these
of it how we transcend some of these barriers that patriarchy has put where
barriers that patriarchy has put where
barriers that patriarchy has put where does it come from and I’m trying to look
does it come from and I’m trying to look
does it come from and I’m trying to look at issues where homosexuality or
at issues where homosexuality or
at issues where homosexuality or homosexuals become pioneers in attacking
homosexuals become pioneers in attacking
homosexuals become pioneers in attacking some of the last barriers in the
some of the last barriers in the
some of the last barriers in the Constitution where the articles on
Constitution where the articles on
Constitution where the articles on equality before the law liberty freedom
equality before the law liberty freedom
equality before the law liberty freedom of expression are fully expressed and
of expression are fully expressed and
of expression are fully expressed and procured for the citizens of this
procured for the citizens of this
procured for the citizens of this country so that’s my contention before I
country so that’s my contention before I
country so that’s my contention before I start I must tell you
start I must tell you
start I must tell you incident in my life 30 years ago and I
incident in my life 30 years ago and I
incident in my life 30 years ago and I well I became a street councillor for my
well I became a street councillor for my
well I became a street councillor for my organization call the hands of a trust
organization call the hands of a trust
organization call the hands of a trust which is India’s oldest gay organization
which is India’s oldest gay organization
which is India’s oldest gay organization it works with the government of India
it works with the government of India
it works with the government of India with the Union Health Ministry but the
with the Union Health Ministry but the
with the Union Health Ministry but the interesting part is that as a street
interesting part is that as a street
interesting part is that as a street councilor we are we were on the street
councilor we are we were on the street
councilor we are we were on the street and we used to meet up people who had
and we used to meet up people who had
and we used to meet up people who had issues about their sexuality and I was
issues about their sexuality and I was
issues about their sexuality and I was usually one of the four or five Street
usually one of the four or five Street
usually one of the four or five Street councilors trained by with their
councilors trained by with their
councilors trained by with their Subramanyam to go out we were not
Subramanyam to go out we were not
Subramanyam to go out we were not allowed to meet them in any private
allowed to meet them in any private
allowed to meet them in any private space we could meet them on park benches
space we could meet them on park benches
space we could meet them on park benches or in say hotels they would sit on a cup
or in say hotels they would sit on a cup
or in say hotels they would sit on a cup of tea and advice people and I met this
of tea and advice people and I met this
of tea and advice people and I met this guy who said he had a problem so I said
guy who said he had a problem so I said
guy who said he had a problem so I said okay we’ll meet and we met interestingly
okay we’ll meet and we met interestingly
okay we’ll meet and we met interestingly in a small choice op outside the other
in a small choice op outside the other
in a small choice op outside the other station and he said I want to tell you
station and he said I want to tell you
station and he said I want to tell you that I’m heterosexual and married and I
that I’m heterosexual and married and I
that I’m heterosexual and married and I have two children so I was wondering
have two children so I was wondering
have two children so I was wondering what’s the problem he seemed happy so I
what’s the problem he seemed happy so I
what’s the problem he seemed happy so I said yeah so so what so he said we sat
said yeah so so what so he said we sat
said yeah so so what so he said we sat down the tea started again he repeated
down the tea started again he repeated
down the tea started again he repeated the same thing he said I am a married
the same thing he said I am a married
the same thing he said I am a married man and I love my wife I’ve got two
man and I love my wife I’ve got two
man and I love my wife I’ve got two children but Sir I want to tell you that
children but Sir I want to tell you that
children but Sir I want to tell you that whenever every day I I go for a shower
whenever every day I I go for a shower
whenever every day I I go for a shower and come out
and come out
and come out and I dry myself and I look at myself in
and I dry myself and I look at myself in
and I dry myself and I look at myself in the mirror and I look at my butt and I
the mirror and I look at my butt and I
the mirror and I look at my butt and I said what a beautiful but you have I
said what a beautiful but you have I
said what a beautiful but you have I didn’t know I thought I thought that was
didn’t know I thought I thought that was
didn’t know I thought I thought that was a interesting line to take you know I
a interesting line to take you know I
a interesting line to take you know I mean but what I wanted to that set me
mean but what I wanted to that set me
mean but what I wanted to that set me off a lot of things because there was a
off a lot of things because there was a
off a lot of things because there was a total disconnect in his mind between his
total disconnect in his mind between his
total disconnect in his mind between his orientation he was obviously a man who
orientation he was obviously a man who
orientation he was obviously a man who was oriented towards homosexual you know
was oriented towards homosexual you know
was oriented towards homosexual you know orientation but he was totally just
orientation but he was totally just
orientation but he was totally just disconnected from his his identity was
disconnected from his his identity was
disconnected from his his identity was homosexual but his behavior was
homosexual but his behavior was
homosexual but his behavior was perfectly heterosexual he was happy with
perfectly heterosexual he was happy with
perfectly heterosexual he was happy with his wife he had no issues he said that
his wife he had no issues he said that
his wife he had no issues he said that everything was perfect he had children
everything was perfect he had children
everything was perfect he had children but soon after about three years after
but soon after about three years after
but soon after about three years after that he did come to me and says I think
that he did come to me and says I think
that he did come to me and says I think I’m done with my married life do you
I’m done with my married life do you
I’m done with my married life do you think I could get a male partner so
think I could get a male partner so
think I could get a male partner so obviously people progress now I’m giving
obviously people progress now I’m giving
obviously people progress now I’m giving with the story to tell you the journey
with the story to tell you the journey
with the story to tell you the journey that I made over thirty five years in
that I made over thirty five years in
that I made over thirty five years in the community and I have tried to
the community and I have tried to
the community and I have tried to connect theory and practice and our
connect theory and practice and our
connect theory and practice and our experiences on the street to come up
experiences on the street to come up
experiences on the street to come up with certain ideas about where we are
with certain ideas about where we are
with certain ideas about where we are heading you know as far as men in this
heading you know as far as men in this
heading you know as far as men in this in this country are concerned if you
in this country are concerned if you
in this country are concerned if you look around you’re you’re you must be
look around you’re you’re you must be
look around you’re you’re you must be seeing and reading the papers and it’s
seeing and reading the papers and it’s
seeing and reading the papers and it’s pretty bad the rapes formulated by our
pretty bad the rapes formulated by our
pretty bad the rapes formulated by our downwards
downwards
downwards a month ago we had two boys sodomized in
a month ago we had two boys sodomized in
a month ago we had two boys sodomized in Hawaii they committed suicide so this
Hawaii they committed suicide so this
Hawaii they committed suicide so this this sort of violence that the male is
this sort of violence that the male is
this sort of violence that the male is indulging in I feel is a crisis in
indulging in I feel is a crisis in
indulging in I feel is a crisis in patriarchy I’m not saying it’s happening
patriarchy I’m not saying it’s happening
patriarchy I’m not saying it’s happening particularly in India it’s a crowded
particularly in India it’s a crowded
particularly in India it’s a crowded country but it’s happening all over the
country but it’s happening all over the
country but it’s happening all over the world if you go into the streets of
world if you go into the streets of
world if you go into the streets of London you see the same type of sexual
London you see the same type of sexual
London you see the same type of sexual violence if you see what’s happening in
violence if you see what’s happening in
violence if you see what’s happening in Europe with or without them migrants
Europe with or without them migrants
Europe with or without them migrants it’s happening there too so there is a
it’s happening there too so there is a
it’s happening there too so there is a crisis in patriarchy throughout the
crisis in patriarchy throughout the
crisis in patriarchy throughout the globe
globe
globe all over the planet where man has
all over the planet where man has
all over the planet where man has practically spread his wings and taken
practically spread his wings and taken
practically spread his wings and taken up every ecological niche there is we
up every ecological niche there is we
up every ecological niche there is we must understand look back a little bit
must understand look back a little bit
must understand look back a little bit into evolution III want to run through
into evolution III want to run through
into evolution III want to run through this very quickly because these notes
this very quickly because these notes
this very quickly because these notes are very extensive anyway
are very extensive anyway
are very extensive anyway I want to tell you that the whole
I want to tell you that the whole
I want to tell you that the whole business of when you look at the Homo
business of when you look at the Homo
business of when you look at the Homo Sapien as this incredible primate among
Sapien as this incredible primate among
Sapien as this incredible primate among all the simians that you have around us
all the simians that you have around us
all the simians that you have around us this primate is the only animal that has
this primate is the only animal that has
this primate is the only animal that has sex in private if you look in the animal
sex in private if you look in the animal
sex in private if you look in the animal kingdom you will not see this obsession
kingdom you will not see this obsession
kingdom you will not see this obsession for privacy and private space and you
for privacy and private space and you
for privacy and private space and you can see that obsession running it’s
can see that obsession running it’s
can see that obsession running it’s happening in the Supreme Court right in
happening in the Supreme Court right in
happening in the Supreme Court right in front of us today or the last ones eat
front of us today or the last ones eat
front of us today or the last ones eat this obsession with privacy the very
this obsession with privacy the very
this obsession with privacy the very fact that you have a smartphone your
fact that you have a smartphone your
fact that you have a smartphone your privacy is gone but looking at the way
privacy is gone but looking at the way
privacy is gone but looking at the way they are talking about biometrics and I
they are talking about biometrics and I
they are talking about biometrics and I mean we had a huge fight in the
mean we had a huge fight in the
mean we had a huge fight in the transgender community which was invited
transgender community which was invited
transgender community which was invited to the u.s. consulate for a workshop and
to the u.s. consulate for a workshop and
to the u.s. consulate for a workshop and most of the transgender refused to show
most of the transgender refused to show
most of the transgender refused to show the ID because they have different ID in
the ID because they have different ID in
the ID because they have different ID in the private lives on the street and they
the private lives on the street and they
the private lives on the street and they have a different ID according to the
have a different ID according to the
have a different ID according to the other car so one of the jobs of humsafar
other car so one of the jobs of humsafar
other car so one of the jobs of humsafar trust is to get them other card in the
trust is to get them other card in the
trust is to get them other card in the name of their transgendered identity
name of their transgendered identity
name of their transgendered identity which means them if I’m Ashok on the
which means them if I’m Ashok on the
which means them if I’m Ashok on the streets and Kalasha they want they want
streets and Kalasha they want they want
streets and Kalasha they want they want to add her card in the name of Asha you
to add her card in the name of Asha you
to add her card in the name of Asha you can see the sort of mess going on
can see the sort of mess going on
can see the sort of mess going on between identities sexual orientations
between identities sexual orientations
between identities sexual orientations and sexual desire I’m going to
and sexual desire I’m going to
and sexual desire I’m going to concentrate on these four issues okay
concentrate on these four issues okay
concentrate on these four issues okay let’s see I want to say that I have come
let’s see I want to say that I have come
let’s see I want to say that I have come down from privacy and according to me
down from privacy and according to me
down from privacy and according to me privacy required certain amount of
privacy required certain amount of
privacy required certain amount of spaces that’s why today we are spread
spaces that’s why today we are spread
spaces that’s why today we are spread all of the planet
all of the planet
all of the planet due to all types of expansion wars
due to all types of expansion wars
due to all types of expansion wars famines displacement man has spread all
famines displacement man has spread all
famines displacement man has spread all over the planet and it’s not just for
over the planet and it’s not just for
over the planet and it’s not just for space and for you know living that he’s
space and for you know living that he’s
space and for you know living that he’s got there he’s got that because of
got there he’s got that because of
got there he’s got that because of privacy needs privacy for himself for
privacy needs privacy for himself for
privacy needs privacy for himself for his sexual practices and these sexual
his sexual practices and these sexual
his sexual practices and these sexual practices are very interesting because
practices are very interesting because
practices are very interesting because the more you look at sexual practices
the more you look at sexual practices
the more you look at sexual practices right from Kinsey onwards to what we are
right from Kinsey onwards to what we are
right from Kinsey onwards to what we are doing in in India you’ll be surprised at
doing in in India you’ll be surprised at
doing in in India you’ll be surprised at the number of kings that human beings
the number of kings that human beings
the number of kings that human beings have you know what is it due to frankly
have you know what is it due to frankly
have you know what is it due to frankly looking at sexual desire by itself you
looking at sexual desire by itself you
looking at sexual desire by itself you know very well that
know very well that
know very well that something that this simian has your I
something that this simian has your I
something that this simian has your I think the you homo sapien is the only
think the you homo sapien is the only
think the you homo sapien is the only animal that breathes throughout the
animal that breathes throughout the
animal that breathes throughout the earth there’s no such thing as a time
earth there’s no such thing as a time
earth there’s no such thing as a time when there’s a breeding period or
when there’s a breeding period or
when there’s a breeding period or anything like that we breed throughout
anything like that we breed throughout
anything like that we breed throughout the earth we have out bread every other
the earth we have out bread every other
the earth we have out bread every other species on this planet and this sexual
species on this planet and this sexual
species on this planet and this sexual desire comes out in various ways now I
desire comes out in various ways now I
desire comes out in various ways now I had to go back to a person called Michel
had to go back to a person called Michel
had to go back to a person called Michel Foucault who is the father of the
Foucault who is the father of the
Foucault who is the father of the history of sexuality
history of sexuality
history of sexuality he was a French gay man who died of AIDS
he was a French gay man who died of AIDS
he was a French gay man who died of AIDS much before ERT ever came in but if you
much before ERT ever came in but if you
much before ERT ever came in but if you read his three books on the history of
read his three books on the history of
read his three books on the history of human sexuality you get to know really
human sexuality you get to know really
human sexuality you get to know really what is happening even today in India
what is happening even today in India
what is happening even today in India you know he introduced something called
you know he introduced something called
you know he introduced something called bio power and that’s interesting bio
bio power and that’s interesting bio
bio power and that’s interesting bio power he defines as a power that is
power he defines as a power that is
power he defines as a power that is within each human being that has you
within each human being that has you
within each human being that has you know has a tendency to self discipline
know has a tendency to self discipline
know has a tendency to self discipline the animal and understand its linkages
the animal and understand its linkages
the animal and understand its linkages to the rest of society
to the rest of society
to the rest of society now bio power according to me see
now bio power according to me see
now bio power according to me see sexual desire has to play out in the in
sexual desire has to play out in the in
sexual desire has to play out in the in society and from that to get sexual
society and from that to get sexual
society and from that to get sexual behavior but sexual behavior called
behavior but sexual behavior called
behavior but sexual behavior called according to Foucault has these two you
according to Foucault has these two you
according to Foucault has these two you know arms and one is called sexual
know arms and one is called sexual
know arms and one is called sexual orientation and that means who you’re
orientation and that means who you’re
orientation and that means who you’re attracted to
attracted to
attracted to it’s an outward centrifugal force and
it’s an outward centrifugal force and
it’s an outward centrifugal force and then there is a sexual identity Who am I
then there is a sexual identity Who am I
then there is a sexual identity Who am I it’s exactly not the story I told you
it’s exactly not the story I told you
it’s exactly not the story I told you about this guy was counseling his
about this guy was counseling his
about this guy was counseling his orientation was clearly homosexual but
orientation was clearly homosexual but
orientation was clearly homosexual but his identity was heterosexual and if
his identity was heterosexual and if
his identity was heterosexual and if they don’t match that’s where mental
they don’t match that’s where mental
they don’t match that’s where mental science has come in and that’s the issue
science has come in and that’s the issue
science has come in and that’s the issue that is happening today as far not just
that is happening today as far not just
that is happening today as far not just with the homosexual community but I find
with the homosexual community but I find
with the homosexual community but I find even among heterosexuals that there is
even among heterosexuals that there is
even among heterosexuals that there is an issue in the sense after they
an issue in the sense after they
an issue in the sense after they finished with certain practices I don’t
finished with certain practices I don’t
finished with certain practices I don’t think my married life really exists in
think my married life really exists in
think my married life really exists in India beyond a couple of years at least
India beyond a couple of years at least
India beyond a couple of years at least most of my friends who were in class
most of my friends who were in class
most of my friends who were in class with me are either divorced or separated
with me are either divorced or separated
with me are either divorced or separated and whenever I ask them they say this
and whenever I ask them they say this
and whenever I ask them they say this sparks gone out of their lives what does
sparks gone out of their lives what does
sparks gone out of their lives what does that mean
that mean
that mean there is no sex anymore so obviously the
there is no sex anymore so obviously the
there is no sex anymore so obviously the sexual drive has ended up with sexual
sexual drive has ended up with sexual
sexual drive has ended up with sexual behavior it’s played itself out or
behavior it’s played itself out or
behavior it’s played itself out or orientation
orientation
orientation is the direction in which you attracted
is the direction in which you attracted
is the direction in which you attracted to another human being that may be as
to another human being that may be as
to another human being that may be as powerful as possible but the identity is
powerful as possible but the identity is
powerful as possible but the identity is an issue I didn’t know for example that
an issue I didn’t know for example that
an issue I didn’t know for example that in India 8% of males are sexually
in India 8% of males are sexually
in India 8% of males are sexually attracted to animals it’s constant
attracted to animals it’s constant
attracted to animals it’s constant throughout the country that’s amazing
throughout the country that’s amazing
throughout the country that’s amazing if we look at the homosexual orientation
if we look at the homosexual orientation
if we look at the homosexual orientation for example the surveys that were done
for example the surveys that were done
for example the surveys that were done in Chennai talked about six to seven
in Chennai talked about six to seven
in Chennai talked about six to seven percent of the sexually active men who
percent of the sexually active men who
percent of the sexually active men who permanent practicing homosexuals but if
permanent practicing homosexuals but if
permanent practicing homosexuals but if you went across into say Rajasthan there
you went across into say Rajasthan there
you went across into say Rajasthan there was another study done by dean dona and
was another study done by dean dona and
was another study done by dean dona and ravi varma which put the number of men
ravi varma which put the number of men
ravi varma which put the number of men having sex with other men at between 11
having sex with other men at between 11
having sex with other men at between 11 and 18 percent that’s a hell of a lot
and 18 percent that’s a hell of a lot
and 18 percent that’s a hell of a lot where is this coming from when we try to
where is this coming from when we try to
where is this coming from when we try to find out for example the questionnaires
find out for example the questionnaires
find out for example the questionnaires that were there in public hospitals in
that were there in public hospitals in
that were there in public hospitals in Bombay there was asking question like
Bombay there was asking question like
Bombay there was asking question like are you a homosexual
are you a homosexual
are you a homosexual have you had homosexual relations the
have you had homosexual relations the
have you had homosexual relations the answer is no but if you divide it or
answer is no but if you divide it or
answer is no but if you divide it or tried it them up into three separate
tried it them up into three separate
tried it them up into three separate questions you know do you
questions you know do you
questions you know do you there are many societies where men have
there are many societies where men have
there are many societies where men have sex with other men do you know such men
sex with other men do you know such men
sex with other men do you know such men answer was yes are there any such men
answer was yes are there any such men
answer was yes are there any such men close to you yes has any such man made a
close to you yes has any such man made a
close to you yes has any such man made a pass at you because of Indian men are
pass at you because of Indian men are
pass at you because of Indian men are very nice you see in films you’ll see
very nice you see in films you’ll see
very nice you see in films you’ll see only the women women not tempting them
only the women women not tempting them
only the women women not tempting them otherwise they’re wonderful and pure so
otherwise they’re wonderful and pure so
otherwise they’re wonderful and pure so the question has to be put the other way
the question has to be put the other way
the question has to be put the other way he is a vestal virgin did anybody make a
he is a vestal virgin did anybody make a
he is a vestal virgin did anybody make a pass at you answer was yes that answer
pass at you answer was yes that answer
pass at you answer was yes that answer that question air came out with 22% in
that question air came out with 22% in
that question air came out with 22% in sign hospital
sign hospital
sign hospital 22% of attendees in sexually transmitted
22% of attendees in sexually transmitted
22% of attendees in sexually transmitted infections were having sex with other
infections were having sex with other
infections were having sex with other men and not talking about it it’s a zone
men and not talking about it it’s a zone
men and not talking about it it’s a zone of so much silence that one of the
of so much silence that one of the
of so much silence that one of the chapters that I have written for a book
chapters that I have written for a book
chapters that I have written for a book called Johanna which is the gay
called Johanna which is the gay
called Johanna which is the gay anthology in India brought or Beth
anthology in India brought or Beth
anthology in India brought or Beth Angwin it’s called the contract of
Angwin it’s called the contract of
Angwin it’s called the contract of silence what I wanted to say was that
silence what I wanted to say was that
silence what I wanted to say was that throughout you will see this type of
throughout you will see this type of
throughout you will see this type of stuff going on in all around us nobody
stuff going on in all around us nobody
stuff going on in all around us nobody wants to talk about sexual practices
wants to talk about sexual practices
wants to talk about sexual practices that are very
that are very
that are very are going on right under our noses are
are going on right under our noses are
are going on right under our noses are criminalized marginalized kept out of
criminalized marginalized kept out of
criminalized marginalized kept out of the realm of public discourse and are
the realm of public discourse and are
the realm of public discourse and are not being looked into for the simple
not being looked into for the simple
not being looked into for the simple reason a people will not talk about it
reason a people will not talk about it
reason a people will not talk about it because they do not want to see it now
because they do not want to see it now
because they do not want to see it now what I wanted to say was that this type
what I wanted to say was that this type
what I wanted to say was that this type of rampant aggressive masculinity seems
of rampant aggressive masculinity seems
of rampant aggressive masculinity seems to be to appropriate surpluses resources
to be to appropriate surpluses resources
to be to appropriate surpluses resources corner them turf wars and this is what
corner them turf wars and this is what
corner them turf wars and this is what is finally leading to my contention that
is finally leading to my contention that
is finally leading to my contention that we gay men are actually subversives in
we gay men are actually subversives in
we gay men are actually subversives in this system we are equal prisoners a lot
this system we are equal prisoners a lot
this system we are equal prisoners a lot of women think that whenever in India
of women think that whenever in India
of women think that whenever in India you talk of gender it’s always women and
you talk of gender it’s always women and
you talk of gender it’s always women and children nobody talks of men also is a
children nobody talks of men also is a
children nobody talks of men also is a gender males also a gender and males are
gender males also a gender and males are
gender males also a gender and males are also prisoners of patriarchy do not
also prisoners of patriarchy do not
also prisoners of patriarchy do not think that they are always the dominant
think that they are always the dominant
think that they are always the dominant sex and deeming gee I mean when I say
sex and deeming gee I mean when I say
sex and deeming gee I mean when I say gay men it includes a huge spectrum and
gay men it includes a huge spectrum and
gay men it includes a huge spectrum and that’s why they are called a rainbow
that’s why they are called a rainbow
that’s why they are called a rainbow spectrum there in the rainbow community
spectrum there in the rainbow community
spectrum there in the rainbow community it means men having sex with men
it means men having sex with men
it means men having sex with men bisexual men I’m going to take you to
bisexual men I’m going to take you to
bisexual men I’m going to take you to that this was a diagram which I drew for
that this was a diagram which I drew for
that this was a diagram which I drew for the Ministry of Health I had to show
the Ministry of Health I had to show
the Ministry of Health I had to show that it is gay men within patriarchy who
that it is gay men within patriarchy who
that it is gay men within patriarchy who are doing the transmissions the latest
are doing the transmissions the latest
are doing the transmissions the latest now if you see what’s happening in the
now if you see what’s happening in the
now if you see what’s happening in the Supreme Court and how we are taking the
Supreme Court and how we are taking the
Supreme Court and how we are taking the Delhi High Court judgement forward we
Delhi High Court judgement forward we
Delhi High Court judgement forward we are asking for certain laws to be framed
are asking for certain laws to be framed
are asking for certain laws to be framed to protect even privacy for example
to protect even privacy for example
to protect even privacy for example privacy of a woman if you read the Delhi
privacy of a woman if you read the Delhi
privacy of a woman if you read the Delhi High Court judgement you’ll find that
High Court judgement you’ll find that
High Court judgement you’ll find that privacy is defined in a completely new
privacy is defined in a completely new
privacy is defined in a completely new way if a woman sits in a path all the
way if a woman sits in a path all the
way if a woman sits in a path all the space around her is a private space so
space around her is a private space so
space around her is a private space so there’s a new definitions of privacy
there’s a new definitions of privacy
there’s a new definitions of privacy coming up now this is what the
coming up now this is what the
coming up now this is what the homosexual community is fighting for
homosexual community is fighting for
homosexual community is fighting for equality before the law the moment you
equality before the law the moment you
equality before the law the moment you demand equality before the law a whole
demand equality before the law a whole
demand equality before the law a whole lot of other laws goes out of the window
lot of other laws goes out of the window
lot of other laws goes out of the window section 377 goes out of the window it
section 377 goes out of the window it
section 377 goes out of the window it has created a second-class citizen by
has created a second-class citizen by
has created a second-class citizen by the very nature of Who I am
the very nature of Who I am
the very nature of Who I am so it definitely attacks constitutional
so it definitely attacks constitutional
so it definitely attacks constitutional laws equality before the law doesn’t
laws equality before the law doesn’t
laws equality before the law doesn’t stand because there is some the
stand because there is some the
stand because there is some the Scheduled Tribes and cast act which was
Scheduled Tribes and cast act which was
Scheduled Tribes and cast act which was actually removed in 1952 said if you
actually removed in 1952 said if you
actually removed in 1952 said if you were born into a particular caste like
were born into a particular caste like
were born into a particular caste like say the gypsies the word eras although
say the gypsies the word eras although
say the gypsies the word eras although there are several criminal tribes and
there are several criminal tribes and
there are several criminal tribes and castes who the british had termed as
castes who the british had termed as
castes who the british had termed as criminal from the very day they were
criminal from the very day they were
criminal from the very day they were born that had to be thrown out by
born that had to be thrown out by
born that had to be thrown out by parliament in 1952 very closely attached
parliament in 1952 very closely attached
parliament in 1952 very closely attached to that was sick section 377 we’ve had a
to that was sick section 377 we’ve had a
to that was sick section 377 we’ve had a huge issues just the hump suffered trust
huge issues just the hump suffered trust
huge issues just the hump suffered trust just to pay their employees has to have
just to pay their employees has to have
just to pay their employees has to have a fight every day with banks so you can
a fight every day with banks so you can
a fight every day with banks so you can imagine when this is what gay men are
imagine when this is what gay men are
imagine when this is what gay men are fighting for equality before the law how
fighting for equality before the law how
fighting for equality before the law how can you keep a hashida out of say a
can you keep a hashida out of say a
can you keep a hashida out of say a hospital they are not allowed even into
hospital they are not allowed even into
hospital they are not allowed even into hospital gates and they happen to be the
hospital gates and they happen to be the
hospital gates and they happen to be the most visible sexual minority in this
most visible sexual minority in this
most visible sexual minority in this country if you see what was happening
country if you see what was happening
country if you see what was happening when the the transgender bill is about
when the the transgender bill is about
when the the transgender bill is about to be passed this this month and it is
to be passed this this month and it is
to be passed this this month and it is the most ridiculous bill there’s going
the most ridiculous bill there’s going
the most ridiculous bill there’s going to be a screening committee where before
to be a screening committee where before
to be a screening committee where before which you have to go and they’re going
which you have to go and they’re going
which you have to go and they’re going to physically examine you and find out
to physically examine you and find out
to physically examine you and find out whether you’re a hit or not or a
whether you’re a hit or not or a
whether you’re a hit or not or a transgender which is insulting who the
transgender which is insulting who the
transgender which is insulting who the hell is anybody in government or in a
hell is anybody in government or in a
hell is anybody in government or in a court to try and certify whether I am
court to try and certify whether I am
court to try and certify whether I am something or the other I am a citizen of
something or the other I am a citizen of
something or the other I am a citizen of this country whether I pay income tax or
this country whether I pay income tax or
this country whether I pay income tax or not I am a citizen of this country have
not I am a citizen of this country have
not I am a citizen of this country have to be treated equal before the law
to be treated equal before the law
to be treated equal before the law according to me only gay men will be
according to me only gay men will be
according to me only gay men will be able to fight this out this is the last
able to fight this out this is the last
able to fight this out this is the last frontier I don’t see other human rights
frontier I don’t see other human rights
frontier I don’t see other human rights activists even interested even the
activists even interested even the
activists even interested even the feminists I must tell you the failure
feminists I must tell you the failure
feminists I must tell you the failure the Justice were my Committee which met
the Justice were my Committee which met
the Justice were my Committee which met after the nearby our case we made a
after the nearby our case we made a
after the nearby our case we made a deputation to Justice Verma that there
deputation to Justice Verma that there
deputation to Justice Verma that there should be male I mean rape should be
should be male I mean rape should be
should be male I mean rape should be gender-neutral and you’ll be surprised
gender-neutral and you’ll be surprised
gender-neutral and you’ll be surprised the feminist groups attacked us and said
the feminist groups attacked us and said
the feminist groups attacked us and said in a patriarchal society men can never
in a patriarchal society men can never
in a patriarchal society men can never get raped now you and I know that it is
get raped now you and I know that it is
get raped now you and I know that it is happening it’s happening in jails it’s
happening it’s happening in jails it’s
happening it’s happening in jails it’s happening in the crowded places any homo
happening in the crowded places any homo
happening in the crowded places any homo social place where more men are there
social place where more men are there
social place where more men are there there is bullying of men there
there is bullying of men there
there is bullying of men there sexual abuse of men that has not been
sexual abuse of men that has not been
sexual abuse of men that has not been taken into consideration doesn’t require
taken into consideration doesn’t require
taken into consideration doesn’t require a gay man to point this out that is
a gay man to point this out that is
a gay man to point this out that is something that is so obvious though
something that is so obvious though
something that is so obvious though again I wanted to say coming back to
again I wanted to say coming back to
again I wanted to say coming back to this and this is the great MSM circle
this and this is the great MSM circle
this and this is the great MSM circle that hamsa fortress has created for the
that hamsa fortress has created for the
that hamsa fortress has created for the Ministry of Health and it will it was
Ministry of Health and it will it was
Ministry of Health and it will it was basically done to see that it’s not a
basically done to see that it’s not a
basically done to see that it’s not a monolith that it’s a very pluralistic
monolith that it’s a very pluralistic
monolith that it’s a very pluralistic world and from this comes my little
world and from this comes my little
world and from this comes my little motto that because it is such a
motto that because it is such a
motto that because it is such a pluralistic and diverse world it’s a
pluralistic and diverse world it’s a
pluralistic and diverse world it’s a very shadowy world how many of you know
very shadowy world how many of you know
very shadowy world how many of you know that how many homosexuals there are in
that how many homosexuals there are in
that how many homosexuals there are in this country according to me the
this country according to me the
this country according to me the estimate is between 28 and 32 million
estimate is between 28 and 32 million
estimate is between 28 and 32 million adults and that’s not a small number now
adults and that’s not a small number now
adults and that’s not a small number now if if they are there they’re definitely
if if they are there they’re definitely
if if they are there they’re definitely all within this circle you’ll observe
all within this circle you’ll observe
all within this circle you’ll observe large parts of this yellow circle are
large parts of this yellow circle are
large parts of this yellow circle are not populated because we don’t know what
not populated because we don’t know what
not populated because we don’t know what types of men are there who have sex with
types of men are there who have sex with
types of men are there who have sex with other men but we know some sort of
other men but we know some sort of
other men but we know some sort of topography of this the ones on top are
topography of this the ones on top are
topography of this the ones on top are all males whose gender is different from
all males whose gender is different from
all males whose gender is different from in which they were born
in which they were born
in which they were born these are male born sexual minorities
these are male born sexual minorities
these are male born sexual minorities who feel they’re women or females all
who feel they’re women or females all
who feel they’re women or females all the others at the bottom you’ll see
the others at the bottom you’ll see
the others at the bottom you’ll see cotys panties gay identified these are
cotys panties gay identified these are
cotys panties gay identified these are means who’s not whose identity is based
means who’s not whose identity is based
means who’s not whose identity is based on behavior say someone like me I don’t
on behavior say someone like me I don’t
on behavior say someone like me I don’t look like a woman I don’t behave like a
look like a woman I don’t behave like a
look like a woman I don’t behave like a woman but I am attracted to other men
woman but I am attracted to other men
woman but I am attracted to other men and I have sex with other men so these
and I have sex with other men so these
and I have sex with other men so these are the ones below there are subdivision
are the ones below there are subdivision
are the ones below there are subdivision there but don’t bother with it I’ll tell
there but don’t bother with it I’ll tell
there but don’t bother with it I’ll tell you later on outside when I meet you on
you later on outside when I meet you on
you later on outside when I meet you on this side are men whose vulnerability
this side are men whose vulnerability
this side are men whose vulnerability comes because of their workplace into
comes because of their workplace into
comes because of their workplace into end you know in the sense say cleaners
end you know in the sense say cleaners
end you know in the sense say cleaners of lorries film extras so I exploit it
of lorries film extras so I exploit it
of lorries film extras so I exploit it just like the women you know then there
just like the women you know then there
just like the women you know then there are every big city in India has Monsieur
are every big city in India has Monsieur
are every big city in India has Monsieur Zoot launches of a massage they also
Zoot launches of a massage they also
Zoot launches of a massage they also have sex and boys in dancing bars do we
have sex and boys in dancing bars do we
have sex and boys in dancing bars do we know that in the dance bars in bombay 20
know that in the dance bars in bombay 20
know that in the dance bars in bombay 20 percent of the girls actually
percent of the girls actually
percent of the girls actually cross-dressing boys who dance very well
cross-dressing boys who dance very well
cross-dressing boys who dance very well indeed as women so we on this side we’re
indeed as women so we on this side we’re
indeed as women so we on this side we’re prison population bisexual who may be
prison population bisexual who may be
prison population bisexual who may be behaviorally bisexual or they might be
behaviorally bisexual or they might be
behaviorally bisexual or they might be identity as a bisexual and then right
identity as a bisexual and then right
identity as a bisexual and then right down the center you have a bridge where
down the center you have a bridge where
down the center you have a bridge where effeminate males in traditional Indian
effeminate males in traditional Indian
effeminate males in traditional Indian society usually travelled towards Hydra
society usually travelled towards Hydra
society usually travelled towards Hydra cultures in the Hydra cultures itself
cultures in the Hydra cultures itself
cultures in the Hydra cultures itself these are all male born do not think
these are all male born do not think
these are all male born do not think hydras 80% of hydras have got their male
hydras 80% of hydras have got their male
hydras 80% of hydras have got their male organs are functional males who can have
organs are functional males who can have
organs are functional males who can have sex with women but they cross dress and
sex with women but they cross dress and
sex with women but they cross dress and do not gender identify as males that’s a
do not gender identify as males that’s a
do not gender identify as males that’s a different cup of tea altogether now this
different cup of tea altogether now this
different cup of tea altogether now this whole bridge is in the old days was used
whole bridge is in the old days was used
whole bridge is in the old days was used by feminine men to travel into Hydra
by feminine men to travel into Hydra
by feminine men to travel into Hydra cultures they were never kidnapped they
cultures they were never kidnapped they
cultures they were never kidnapped they went there and I could tell you story
went there and I could tell you story
went there and I could tell you story there’s no time so I would like to tell
there’s no time so I would like to tell
there’s no time so I would like to tell you that these are the types of men who
you that these are the types of men who
you that these are the types of men who are now fighting battles for the last
are now fighting battles for the last
are now fighting battles for the last frontier what we have to achieve in the
frontier what we have to achieve in the
frontier what we have to achieve in the Constitution thank you
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