(Applause)
Hello.
I put my pants up for my mother, I think she must be in it.
I tell you hi not just to put a little closeness, intimacy,
rather than good evening.
Hi because I would like to be in the privacy anyway,
in the confidence,
because I’m going to tell you something.
This is a confidence that may seem anecdotal, we do not care.
But it seemed important to tell you,
this confidence is that I adore my troll.
I do not know if you know …
In fact you know what it is, because we all have one in life.
There are people who have more trolls than others
but everyone has a troll if you are looking good on the internet.
The troll is this strange creature that emerges from the depths of the Internet
and who is there, often under pseudonym, to rot you,
to burst you, to say that you are extremely bad,
wicked, stupid, dreadful.
The troll wants to kill you.
But I love my troll.
It’s like that, I love my troll.
I will tell you why obviously.
Already, I call him my troll, I do not know if it’s a man or a woman,
it’s always masculine.
Do not you dare to say my troll,
because then, it’s a disaster.
You will be very expensive on the Internet.
It happened to me, I often paid the price.
So, I call it my troll actually.
My troll.
Me, I think it’s a woman, this troll.
I tell you that …
I will not tell you the relationship I have with,
because it’s a relationship that’s still intimate,
even if it’s a public relation.
I think it’s a woman because it pops up
every time I interview a woman artist,
it’s still my job.
He is there all the time.
To give you examples, little flashback:
not so long ago, April 2016.
“Augustin Trapenard. So you support the rape. “
There it was 9:40 am, I was leaving my show.
I turn on the Internet, I turn on Twitter:
“So you support the rape. “
you will agree that there are other more pleasant mornings.
I’ll explain why,
I checked, I had invited that morning,
the filmmaker Roman Polanski in a cultural show,
it seemed interesting to hear this filmmaker of Chinatown, Moon of Fiel,
Filmmaker who has a past you know,
but hey, I might not have invited him.
But I have an old story with my troll
since a year and a half earlier, he was already there.
He was already there.
Here, like 9:40,
I leave the radio, I turn on my computer,
I go on the Internet, on Twitter.
“Presently suffering Augustin Trapenard’s happiness
just to hear the smile in Jessica Chastain’s voice. “
Beaufitude …
What happened :
I had the misfortune to mention the hair color
from my guest of that day,
actress Jessica Chastain, who is redheaded.
I told myself how we are on the radio,
it’s good to remind people who it is.
It is true that she is red.
I regretted, I should not have done it.
I did it.
More recently, September,
in September, my troll was still there.
“Say Augustin Trapenard,
possible to talk about something other than the little face
when you talk about Audrey Tautou,
a woman “
with a capital F.
Actually, I describe my guest in the morning,
it’s radio, it’s not filmed.
I had the misfortune to use this term.
I might not have had to.
I regretted it immediately.
She is excessive.
Well, he’s excessive, my troll.
Very excessive and I really love it.
I love this troll actually because he’s right.
He’s right, it’s absurd to talk about Audrey Tautou’s mignonnerie,
on the radio during an interview.
And I do contrition,
it’s not interesting.
It’s not necessary to mention that Jessica Chastain is red-haired.
We know it,
it is not necessary to say it.
As for Roman Polanski, as good as he is, huge filmmaker,
there are people, listeners, listeners,
men and women,
only to hear his name, to hear him speak,
it hurts them.
It’s something to respect.
That’s not why he’s right.
He is right because he asks me a question.
He asks me questions, he forces me to question, all the time.
What questions does he ask me?
Where is sexism in my job?
What place do I give to women in my show,
whether on the radio or on television?
How do I talk about women,
How do I talk to women when I am a man?
Is it possible when one is a man
to question a woman,
– you have seen, I say interrogate, not cook, otherwise my troll comes back –
to question a woman without appearing macho.
I’ll tell you, it’s easy, every morning I do a program.
That is to say that I work at the invitation of five guests a week.
So it’s very complicated because you have to vary the arts.
I can not have a comedian on Mondays and a comedian on Tuesdays.
You have to vary the arts, the genres, the tones.
You have to vary a lot of things, you need a little diversity.
Obviously, there is need for parity, diversity, equality.
Needless to say, this programming is a nightmare,
it’s a puzzle.
Every day I try, I work,
I am fighting for good programming.
obviously,
I do not know if you noticed
but the most complicated, in fact, is equality.
On the radio as on TV,
we always hear more men than women.
It sounds like a cliché, but it’s true.
This is all the more true and interesting in the field of culture
where there are a lot of readers, spectators,
much more than readers, listeners, spectators.
There are a lot of women artists, probably more than male artists.
But at equal celebrity level,
we always invite a man first rather than a woman.
So you have to resist.
Even I who is constantly resisting – because I’m doing a fight,
I will tell you after –
I get caught in the trap.
I remember, not so long ago, this autumn,
I build my programming, I have an exclusively female week.
That is to say, on Monday, I have actress Virginie Efira.
On Tuesday, a novelist: Céline Ménard.
Wednesday, Sophie Marceau, I was very happy.
Thursday, Brigitte Fontaine, very happy too,
after the show a little less …
Friday…
To the question: “What is a feminist? “
She said, “Someone who is not a Quebecer. “
I did not understand.
(Laughter)
And on Friday, I had this huge American intellectual
called Siri Hustvedt.
And I boasted about this programming:
“Great, an all-female week. “
It is a scandal. I should never have bragged about it.
It should be normal.
First mistake.
Second mistake, in my opinion even more serious,
I said a stupid bullshit:
– I thought that Siri Hustvedt is not very well known,
while she is everywhere.
But in France a little less.
I was trying to catch up.
I said, “I am very happy to receive Siri Hustvedt
because I invited her rather than her husband Paul Auster. “
Very clumsy.
We should not do that. I should not have done it.
I do contrition.
Here again,
the slightest of things when you want a mix of programming,
that’s exactly it.
It is precisely not to boast of it, not to insist.
But, that’s nothing, programming.
Because often, my troll tells me:
“The problem is not the subject,
nor the people you invite,
whether you’re talking about feminism or not,
it’s the words you use. “
It’s true that this language that you all know,
we all use,
it is a very often very masculine language.
It’s a macho language.
It is a language that has in him the memory of patriarchy.
It’s impressive.
It can be a question.
When you put it to a woman, suddenly it becomes extremely hard.
He is asked to justify himself.
It can be a cliché about beauty,
a word we use,
suddenly the whole editorial line changes.
I remember, I received Marion Cotillard.
It was 3 weeks ago, at the moment, we should not talk about it,
where, in full divorce of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie,
an American site told us that
Marion Cotillard was undoubtedly responsible.
All told me, “Are you going to ask him the question? “
I did not do it,
it does not interest me.
But that’s the limit, you can tell
that there are listeners that it could interest. He could ask the question.
It’s a first thing.
Then I thought, “It’s going to hurt her. “
You will tell me :
“We’re not here to serve him the soup.
She can still answer.
It’s okay ! “
But it’s not for that reason.
I did not do it
because if I had asked a man,
it would have been funny.
When I ask a woman, it’s not funny, it’s insulting.
This question carries with it the memory of a submission.
She carries in her, she carries, she vehicle
terrible shots,
against whom we are constantly fighting,
and that’s the least of things when you do my job.
I am a feminist.
(Applause)
So, I say it.
I say, “I am a feminist. “
I am a feminist, I tell men, my brothers.
I say it to the machos, to my brothers.
I tell women.
I say to feminists, not necessarily easy,
because you know, there are some feminists
who tell me, “You are not a feminist.
At best, you are an ally of feminism.
But you’re not a feminist,
because feminism is by and for women. “
I’ll tell you, in addition to programming
that I would like more mixed,
in addition to a language that I watch, so that it does not hurt,
I have a third challenge,
it’s about being feminist and saying it loud and clear.
This is the reason why
I am a signatory and ambassador of the #HeForShe campaign
we talked about earlier,
that you know because it was founded by UN Women,
and worn by this great British comedian Emma Watson,
which is a campaign
who fights stereotypes
but above all that engages men and boys
to fight against these stereotypes.
It’s a campaign that I love, that I sign and that I will resign
because it engages us,
because it invites us to share,
because it is, in my opinion, central.
And I invite you to become a signatory of #HeForShe
because you are,
if you are a feminist,
you have the right to say it.
And I’m surprised that my troll did not reappear
because when you say “I’m a feminist”, it reappears.
Well here he is ! He hates being told …
I can not see it anymore, actually.
I love it but I can not see it anymore because …
What I would like,
he’s silent once,
that he disappears, that he is no longer there,
let him go.
Once, or when he gives me a compliment.
Not that he knows I’m a feminist,
that, I know, I do not need him.
But for him to say that there is a tiny possibility
so that the question does not arise anymore.
Thank you.
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