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Election Polling: 1936, 1948, and 2016 | Robert Shapiro | TEDxEdgemontSchool


[Applause]

[Applause] thank you

thank you

thank you I’m collided to be speaking here today

I’m collided to be speaking here today

I’m collided to be speaking here today I’m going to talk about election polling

I’m going to talk about election polling

I’m going to talk about election polling in the 2016 election and my first

in the 2016 election and my first

in the 2016 election and my first thought about this is well what extent

thought about this is well what extent

thought about this is well what extent you you all want to hear about the 2016

you you all want to hear about the 2016

you you all want to hear about the 2016 election again an opinion polling and

election again an opinion polling and

election again an opinion polling and all the missed predictions and so forth

all the missed predictions and so forth

all the missed predictions and so forth on the other hand Donald Trump seems to

on the other hand Donald Trump seems to

on the other hand Donald Trump seems to like to talk about this continually even

like to talk about this continually even

like to talk about this continually even though the election has has long past so

though the election has has long past so

though the election has has long past so what happened in 2016 2016 arguably was

what happened in 2016 2016 arguably was

what happened in 2016 2016 arguably was the biggest debacle of predictions of

the biggest debacle of predictions of

the biggest debacle of predictions of elections of all time in the United

elections of all time in the United

elections of all time in the United States it harkens back to the 1948

States it harkens back to the 1948

States it harkens back to the 1948 election where there was this famous

election where there was this famous

election where there was this famous photo which you’ll see further in a

photo which you’ll see further in a

photo which you’ll see further in a second of the Chicago Tribune reporting

second of the Chicago Tribune reporting

second of the Chicago Tribune reporting that Dewey defeats Truman that is

that Dewey defeats Truman that is

that Dewey defeats Truman that is Republican Thomas Dewey defeated Harry

Republican Thomas Dewey defeated Harry

Republican Thomas Dewey defeated Harry Truman in the 1948 election based on

Truman in the 1948 election based on

Truman in the 1948 election based on pre-election polling and predictions and

pre-election polling and predictions and

pre-election polling and predictions and it’s useful to think back historically

it’s useful to think back historically

it’s useful to think back historically on this in particular I think the best

on this in particular I think the best

on this in particular I think the best analysts of this is the legendary

analysts of this is the legendary

analysts of this is the legendary baseball player and language master Yogi

baseball player and language master Yogi

baseball player and language master Yogi Berra I think he had it right and the

Berra I think he had it right and the

Berra I think he had it right and the terms that his phrases that apply here

terms that his phrases that apply here

terms that his phrases that apply here or in 2016 compared to 1948 was deja vu

or in 2016 compared to 1948 was deja vu

or in 2016 compared to 1948 was deja vu all over again but the similarities are

all over again but the similarities are

all over again but the similarities are different and of course the old

different and of course the old

different and of course the old all-encompassing fallback is hard to

all-encompassing fallback is hard to

all-encompassing fallback is hard to predict especially about the future now

predict especially about the future now

predict especially about the future now to put this in broader historical

to put this in broader historical

to put this in broader historical context I want to go back to 1936 which

context I want to go back to 1936 which

context I want to go back to 1936 which before 1948 was a polling debacle of a

before 1948 was a polling debacle of a

before 1948 was a polling debacle of a particular sort that’s worth reflecting

particular sort that’s worth reflecting

particular sort that’s worth reflecting further on from 1916 to 1936 the

further on from 1916 to 1936 the

further on from 1916 to 1936 the literary digest did public did what they

literary digest did public did what they

literary digest did public did what they called straw polls on presidential

called straw polls on presidential

called straw polls on presidential elections these were polls based on

elections these were polls based on

elections these were polls based on mailing out cards to Ted to basically 10

mailing out cards to Ted to basically 10

mailing out cards to Ted to basically 10 million or more people the people were

million or more people the people were

million or more people the people were selected by their subscriber list

selected by their subscriber list

selected by their subscriber list by automobile registration telephone

by automobile registration telephone

by automobile registration telephone directories and off and also voter lists

directories and off and also voter lists

directories and off and also voter lists now these constituted by current

now these constituted by current

now these constituted by current standards bias samples in the sense that

standards bias samples in the sense that

standards bias samples in the sense that they just sent out cards to as many

they just sent out cards to as many

they just sent out cards to as many people as possible and let people

people as possible and let people

people as possible and let people self-select whether to send in their

self-select whether to send in their

self-select whether to send in their cards and despite that self-selected

cards and despite that self-selected

cards and despite that self-selected kind of sample which arguably was more

kind of sample which arguably was more

kind of sample which arguably was more of an upscale scale sample that is

of an upscale scale sample that is

of an upscale scale sample that is people had telephones people has cars

people had telephones people has cars

people had telephones people has cars and so forth you would think that would

and so forth you would think that would

and so forth you would think that would introduce certain kinds of biases and

introduce certain kinds of biases and

introduce certain kinds of biases and biases of the sort that comport to the

biases of the sort that comport to the

biases of the sort that comport to the stereotype of Republican voters who were

stereotype of Republican voters who were

stereotype of Republican voters who were more at least in those days more of

more at least in those days more of

more at least in those days more of middle middle class and upscale so there

middle middle class and upscale so there

middle middle class and upscale so there were apparent potential biases there but

were apparent potential biases there but

were apparent potential biases there but from 1916 to 1932 the literary digest

from 1916 to 1932 the literary digest

from 1916 to 1932 the literary digest correctly predicted the results of

correctly predicted the results of

correctly predicted the results of national elections so in 1933 when

national elections so in 1933 when

national elections so in 1933 when Roosevelt took off Franklin Roosevelt

Roosevelt took off Franklin Roosevelt

Roosevelt took off Franklin Roosevelt took office he’s on the front page of

took office he’s on the front page of

took office he’s on the front page of the literary digest they got it right

the literary digest they got it right

the literary digest they got it right come 1936 they’re doing their poll once

come 1936 they’re doing their poll once

come 1936 they’re doing their poll once more but but what happens there they

more but but what happens there they

more but but what happens there they predict that Alfred Landon would win the

predict that Alfred Landon would win the

predict that Alfred Landon would win the election

election

election however the upstart George Gallup began

however the upstart George Gallup began

however the upstart George Gallup began doing what he called scientific polling

doing what he called scientific polling

doing what he called scientific polling based on sampling of geographic

based on sampling of geographic

based on sampling of geographic locations and sending interviewers out

locations and sending interviewers out

locations and sending interviewers out to those locations to fill certain kinds

to those locations to fill certain kinds

to those locations to fill certain kinds of demographic quotas based on age and

of demographic quotas based on age and

of demographic quotas based on age and gender and other characteristics and

gender and other characteristics and

gender and other characteristics and Gallup argued that his method was more

Gallup argued that his method was more

Gallup argued that his method was more scientific and that he would his for

scientific and that he would his for

scientific and that he would his for prediction of the election would be

prediction of the election would be

prediction of the election would be right compared to the literary digest

right compared to the literary digest

right compared to the literary digest and he predicted based on his

and he predicted based on his

and he predicted based on his pre-election polling that Roosevelt

pre-election polling that Roosevelt

pre-election polling that Roosevelt would win the election and not not

would win the election and not not

would win the election and not not landed and he consistently had Roosevelt

landed and he consistently had Roosevelt

landed and he consistently had Roosevelt the head head in the polls as she as you

the head head in the polls as she as you

the head head in the polls as she as you see as you see in the chart and at the

see as you see in the chart and at the

see as you see in the chart and at the same time other legendary pollsters

same time other legendary pollsters

same time other legendary pollsters Archibald Crosley and Elmo Roper were

Archibald Crosley and Elmo Roper were

Archibald Crosley and Elmo Roper were entering the polling game using methods

entering the polling game using methods

entering the polling game using methods similar to Gallup and we’re making the

similar to Gallup and we’re making the

similar to Gallup and we’re making the same kinds of predictions what happened

same kinds of predictions what happened

same kinds of predictions what happened as a result of the election George

as a result of the election George

as a result of the election George Gallup became famous he got the election

Gallup became famous he got the election

Gallup became famous he got the election right the literary digest got it wrong

right the literary digest got it wrong

right the literary digest got it wrong what happened afterwards with was that

what happened afterwards with was that

what happened afterwards with was that the literary digest went under in 1938

the literary digest went under in 1938

the literary digest went under in 1938 scientific polling with with the word

scientific polling with with the word

scientific polling with with the word scientific in quotes established Gallup

scientific in quotes established Gallup

scientific in quotes established Gallup as a major figure in public affairs and

as a major figure in public affairs and

as a major figure in public affairs and in polling and so forth but there was

in polling and so forth but there was

in polling and so forth but there was that but the question is well why the

that but the question is well why the

that but the question is well why the deliberate was that was literary digest

deliberate was that was literary digest

deliberate was that was literary digest wrong in 1936 and not earlier and what

wrong in 1936 and not earlier and what

wrong in 1936 and not earlier and what happened was there was a major political

happened was there was a major political

happened was there was a major political realignment such that the kinds of

realignment such that the kinds of

realignment such that the kinds of biases that existed in the polls were

biases that existed in the polls were

biases that existed in the polls were correlated with how people voted and so

correlated with how people voted and so

correlated with how people voted and so what happened was literary digest

what happened was literary digest

what happened was literary digest overestimated the Republican vote what

overestimated the Republican vote what

overestimated the Republican vote what also happened that that that people

also happened that that that people

also happened that that that people don’t fully appreciate is that Gallup

don’t fully appreciate is that Gallup

don’t fully appreciate is that Gallup underestimated Roosevelt’s support by

underestimated Roosevelt’s support by

underestimated Roosevelt’s support by fully five points in the graph that you

fully five points in the graph that you

fully five points in the graph that you saw he was actually five point five

saw he was actually five point five

saw he was actually five point five point short so galip’s poll had those

point short so galip’s poll had those

point short so galip’s poll had those actually similar kinds of biases but he

actually similar kinds of biases but he

actually similar kinds of biases but he got the winner right and he got the

got the winner right and he got the

got the winner right and he got the winner right in 1940 and 1944 but again

winner right in 1940 and 1944 but again

winner right in 1940 and 1944 but again underestimated Roosevelt’s support so

underestimated Roosevelt’s support so

underestimated Roosevelt’s support so there were problems in the polls that

there were problems in the polls that

there were problems in the polls that then came home to roost in 1948 in 1948

then came home to roost in 1948 in 1948

then came home to roost in 1948 in 1948 prior to prior to the election the

prior to prior to the election the

prior to prior to the election the gallop gallop polls had predicted that

gallop gallop polls had predicted that

gallop gallop polls had predicted that Dewey would win by somewhere around five

Dewey would win by somewhere around five

Dewey would win by somewhere around five points in the election and other

points in the election and other

points in the election and other pollsters were getting the same kinds of

pollsters were getting the same kinds of

pollsters were getting the same kinds of results in including academic posters

results in including academic posters

results in including academic posters who were analyzing the election as well

who were analyzing the election as well

who were analyzing the election as well and what happened there was there are

and what happened there was there are

and what happened there was there are obviously problems in the Gallup poll

obviously problems in the Gallup poll

obviously problems in the Gallup poll the uproar was so great there were Wars

the uproar was so great there were Wars

the uproar was so great there were Wars in government there were up growers all

in government there were up growers all

in government there were up growers all throughout Society and it prompted the

throughout Society and it prompted the

throughout Society and it prompted the Social Science Research Council to put

Social Science Research Council to put

Social Science Research Council to put together a committee to investigate the

together a committee to investigate the

together a committee to investigate the pre-election polls of nineteen forty

pre-election polls of nineteen forty

pre-election polls of nineteen forty eight headed by a famous statistician

eight headed by a famous statistician

eight headed by a famous statistician named Frederick Mosteller

named Frederick Mosteller

named Frederick Mosteller so the big question is what did the what

so the big question is what did the what

so the big question is what did the what are the one of the SSRC report find well

are the one of the SSRC report find well

are the one of the SSRC report find well they found that the following things

they found that the following things

they found that the following things the biggest thing problem they found was

the biggest thing problem they found was

the biggest thing problem they found was what they argue were biases in the polls

what they argue were biases in the polls

what they argue were biases in the polls that led to Gallup and others

that led to Gallup and others

that led to Gallup and others interviewing upscale voters more than

interviewing upscale voters more than

interviewing upscale voters more than downscale voters introducing the same

downscale voters introducing the same

downscale voters introducing the same kinds of biases that we we had seen all

kinds of biases that we we had seen all

kinds of biases that we we had seen all along through nineteen nineteen forty

along through nineteen nineteen forty

along through nineteen nineteen forty four and the bias came in not because of

four and the bias came in not because of

four and the bias came in not because of the selection of geographic locations

the selection of geographic locations

the selection of geographic locations but because the interviewers had

but because the interviewers had

but because the interviewers had discretion with regard to what people

discretion with regard to what people

discretion with regard to what people they would interview and talk to and the

they would interview and talk to and the

they would interview and talk to and the more interview friendly looking people

more interview friendly looking people

more interview friendly looking people tended to be more middle-class and

tended to be more middle-class and

tended to be more middle-class and upscale and the interviewers would

upscale and the interviewers would

upscale and the interviewers would gravitate toward those people so that

gravitate toward those people so that

gravitate toward those people so that was the first problem the other problem

was the first problem the other problem

was the first problem the other problem and this

and this

and this thanks to what I call the people like

thanks to what I call the people like

thanks to what I call the people like the lack of humility or to be less

the lack of humility or to be less

the lack of humility or to be less polite the arrogance of the pollsters

polite the arrogance of the pollsters

polite the arrogance of the pollsters and predictors of because of the

and predictors of because of the

and predictors of because of the confidence that they had in their

confidence that they had in their

confidence that they had in their polling methods and the fact that you’ve

polling methods and the fact that you’ve

polling methods and the fact that you’ve gotten prior elections right and the

gotten prior elections right and the

gotten prior elections right and the arrogance was such that they stopped

arrogance was such that they stopped

arrogance was such that they stopped polling two weeks before the election

polling two weeks before the election

polling two weeks before the election and it turned out there was a lot going

and it turned out there was a lot going

and it turned out there was a lot going on in those two weeks in terms of the

on in those two weeks in terms of the

on in those two weeks in terms of the campaign Truman was actively campaigning

campaign Truman was actively campaigning

campaign Truman was actively campaigning there was a sense that the tide was

there was a sense that the tide was

there was a sense that the tide was turning may sound a little familiar to

turning may sound a little familiar to

turning may sound a little familiar to what happened in 2016 but we’ll get

what happened in 2016 but we’ll get

what happened in 2016 but we’ll get there in a second and so the fact that

there in a second and so the fact that

there in a second and so the fact that they stopped polling earlier early that

they stopped polling earlier early that

they stopped polling earlier early that was considered a problem as well further

was considered a problem as well further

was considered a problem as well further there’s always the problem and how to

there’s always the problem and how to

there’s always the problem and how to allocate undecided voters that was a

allocate undecided voters that was a

allocate undecided voters that was a possible major problem and we’ll come

possible major problem and we’ll come

possible major problem and we’ll come back to that today and in addition to

back to that today and in addition to

back to that today and in addition to that it’s always difficult and this

that it’s always difficult and this

that it’s always difficult and this speaks to Leo G barrows comment about

speaks to Leo G barrows comment about

speaks to Leo G barrows comment about its being difficult to predict

its being difficult to predict

its being difficult to predict especially about the future it’s

especially about the future it’s

especially about the future it’s difficult to predict what the electorate

difficult to predict what the electorate

difficult to predict what the electorate on election day is going to look like in

on election day is going to look like in

on election day is going to look like in based on pre-election polls so there was

based on pre-election polls so there was

based on pre-election polls so there was at this time this exaggerated impression

at this time this exaggerated impression

at this time this exaggerated impression of the accuracy of polls and that led to

of the accuracy of polls and that led to

of the accuracy of polls and that led to the reporting and projecting of the

the reporting and projecting of the

the reporting and projecting of the polls and the election to turnout in a

polls and the election to turnout in a

polls and the election to turnout in a certain way and it didn’t so there was a

certain way and it didn’t so there was a

certain way and it didn’t so there was a major problem there Gallup thereafter

major problem there Gallup thereafter

major problem there Gallup thereafter corrected his methods and in subsequent

corrected his methods and in subsequent

corrected his methods and in subsequent years was able to better predict the

years was able to better predict the

years was able to better predict the polls in in the 1958 election he was

polls in in the 1958 election he was

polls in in the 1958 election he was within the Gallup polls were within one

within the Gallup polls were within one

within the Gallup polls were within one point of Dwight Eisenhower’s victory

point of Dwight Eisenhower’s victory

point of Dwight Eisenhower’s victory over at least Stevenson following that

over at least Stevenson following that

over at least Stevenson following that there were advanced further advances in

there were advanced further advances in

there were advanced further advances in Survey Research leading to the

Survey Research leading to the

Survey Research leading to the proliferation of polling the shifting

proliferation of polling the shifting

proliferation of polling the shifting from in-person interviews to telephone

from in-person interviews to telephone

from in-person interviews to telephone surveys the use of random digit dialing

surveys the use of random digit dialing

surveys the use of random digit dialing computer assisted interviewing and so

computer assisted interviewing and so

computer assisted interviewing and so forth and up until a point there were

forth and up until a point there were

forth and up until a point there were sufficiently high response rates so that

sufficiently high response rates so that

sufficiently high response rates so that the quality of polls was good but what

the quality of polls was good but what

the quality of polls was good but what happened afterwards was that because of

happened afterwards was that because of

happened afterwards was that because of the proliferation of polling through the

the proliferation of polling through the

the proliferation of polling through the proliferation of solicitation calls and

proliferation of solicitation calls and

proliferation of solicitation calls and other kinds of calls that people get

other kinds of calls that people get

other kinds of calls that people get there’s been a decline over the years

there’s been a decline over the years

there’s been a decline over the years and response rates to surveys especially

and response rates to surveys especially

and response rates to surveys especially in the modern day with the proliferation

in the modern day with the proliferation

in the modern day with the proliferation of cell phones cell phones in the United

of cell phones cell phones in the United

of cell phones cell phones in the United States today there are more than 50% of

States today there are more than 50% of

States today there are more than 50% of the households in the United States that

the households in the United States that

the households in the United States that are that are cell phone only so that the

are that are cell phone only so that the

are that are cell phone only so that the pollsters had to start calling with

pollsters had to start calling with

pollsters had to start calling with people on cell phones

people on cell phones

people on cell phones people were less likely to talk to

people were less likely to talk to

people were less likely to talk to pollsters on cellphones there other

pollsters on cellphones there other

pollsters on cellphones there other issues involved in cell phones as well

issues involved in cell phones as well

issues involved in cell phones as well so that the response rates began to

so that the response rates began to

so that the response rates began to decline and there were worries about

decline and there were worries about

decline and there were worries about increasing errors in surveys and these

increasing errors in surveys and these

increasing errors in surveys and these were compounded in the 2016 election by

were compounded in the 2016 election by

were compounded in the 2016 election by other factors including especially the

other factors including especially the

other factors including especially the ability of the pollsters to identify

ability of the pollsters to identify

ability of the pollsters to identify that the nature the composition of the

that the nature the composition of the

that the nature the composition of the electorate in the 2016 election the

electorate in the 2016 election the

electorate in the 2016 election the other complication in the 2016 election

other complication in the 2016 election

other complication in the 2016 election was the for lack of a better term again

was the for lack of a better term again

was the for lack of a better term again arrogance associated with projections

arrogance associated with projections

arrogance associated with projections about how the election would occur

about how the election would occur

about how the election would occur because of what was referred to as the

because of what was referred to as the

because of what was referred to as the blue wall that the Democrats had now

blue wall that the Democrats had now

blue wall that the Democrats had now Obama was able to win substantial

Obama was able to win substantial

Obama was able to win substantial electoral college majorities in 2008 and

electoral college majorities in 2008 and

electoral college majorities in 2008 and 2012 he was able to win the state the

2012 he was able to win the state the

2012 he was able to win the state the key states of Ohio and Florida and in

key states of Ohio and Florida and in

key states of Ohio and Florida and in addition he won North Carolina and

addition he won North Carolina and

addition he won North Carolina and Indiana in the 2008 election and so that

Indiana in the 2008 election and so that

Indiana in the 2008 election and so that in the electoral map that you see

in the electoral map that you see

in the electoral map that you see there’s a lot of blue there and the blue

there’s a lot of blue there and the blue

there’s a lot of blue there and the blue there is such that it basically gave

there is such that it basically gave

there is such that it basically gave Obama the Democrats many different ways

Obama the Democrats many different ways

Obama the Democrats many different ways of winning the electoral college if you

of winning the electoral college if you

of winning the electoral college if you go back to the two thousand election

go back to the two thousand election

go back to the two thousand election everybody there’s a big uproar about

everybody there’s a big uproar about

everybody there’s a big uproar about what happened in Florida and have had al

what happened in Florida and have had al

what happened in Florida and have had al gore won Florida he would have won the

gore won Florida he would have won the

gore won Florida he would have won the election but what people forget is that

election but what people forget is that

election but what people forget is that Gore could have won the election without

Gore could have won the election without

Gore could have won the election without Florida if he had taken his home state

Florida if he had taken his home state

Florida if he had taken his home state of Tennessee or if he had taken the

of Tennessee or if he had taken the

of Tennessee or if he had taken the state of New Hampshire

state of New Hampshire

state of New Hampshire so they fast forward to the 2016

so they fast forward to the 2016

so they fast forward to the 2016 election there were great many ways that

election there were great many ways that

election there were great many ways that Hillary Clinton could win the election

Hillary Clinton could win the election

Hillary Clinton could win the election in the blue that you see in in the in

in the blue that you see in in the in

in the blue that you see in in the in the map in front of you you see a lot of

the map in front of you you see a lot of

the map in front of you you see a lot of blue there but if we if we eliminate the

blue there but if we if we eliminate the

blue there but if we if we eliminate the states of Florida Ohio North Carolina

states of Florida Ohio North Carolina

states of Florida Ohio North Carolina and Iowa Hillary Clinton could have

and Iowa Hillary Clinton could have

and Iowa Hillary Clinton could have could have could have still won the one

could have could have still won the one

could have could have still won the one the election the key things being the

the election the key things being the

the election the key things being the key difference between to that the 2000

key difference between to that the 2000

key difference between to that the 2000 election is that the states of Colorado

election is that the states of Colorado

election is that the states of Colorado and Virginia have become democratic

and Virginia have become democratic

and Virginia have become democratic states it was always assumed because of

states it was always assumed because of

states it was always assumed because of decades of election results that

decades of election results that

decades of election results that Michigan Wisconsin and Pennsylvania

Michigan Wisconsin and Pennsylvania

Michigan Wisconsin and Pennsylvania could never go Republican that what that

could never go Republican that what that

could never go Republican that what that was assumed and so the worst-case

was assumed and so the worst-case

was assumed and so the worst-case scenario would be if she if she lost

scenario would be if she if she lost

scenario would be if she if she lost North Carolina floor

North Carolina floor

North Carolina floor and Ohio but as long as she took the

and Ohio but as long as she took the

and Ohio but as long as she took the states and Iowa as long as she took the

states and Iowa as long as she took the

states and Iowa as long as she took the states of New Mexico Nevada and New

states of New Mexico Nevada and New

states of New Mexico Nevada and New Hampshire she could win she could win

Hampshire she could win she could win

Hampshire she could win she could win the election and if you look at what

the election and if you look at what

the election and if you look at what happened in the 2016 election she in

happened in the 2016 election she in

happened in the 2016 election she in fact lost North Carolina Florida Ohio

fact lost North Carolina Florida Ohio

fact lost North Carolina Florida Ohio she won Nevada and New Hampshire and

she won Nevada and New Hampshire and

she won Nevada and New Hampshire and would have won the election except for

would have won the election except for

would have won the election except for one small detail

one small detail

one small detail she lost Pennsylvania Wisconsin in

she lost Pennsylvania Wisconsin in

she lost Pennsylvania Wisconsin in Michigan and that’s that that’s what no

Michigan and that’s that that’s what no

Michigan and that’s that that’s what no one saw coming

one saw coming

one saw coming so what happened in the 2016 election

so what happened in the 2016 election

so what happened in the 2016 election there were all these wild predictions of

there were all these wild predictions of

there were all these wild predictions of the probability of Hillary Clinton

the probability of Hillary Clinton

the probability of Hillary Clinton winning ranging from 71 percent to 99

winning ranging from 71 percent to 99

winning ranging from 71 percent to 99 percent based on simulations of

percent based on simulations of

percent based on simulations of electoral college results based on the

electoral college results based on the

electoral college results based on the pre-election polling the problem was

pre-election polling the problem was

pre-election polling the problem was that the polling in key states was error

that the polling in key states was error

that the polling in key states was error ridden you remember the uproar that was

ridden you remember the uproar that was

ridden you remember the uproar that was that the that the election caused that

that the that the election caused that

that the that the election caused that led of course to a report that was just

led of course to a report that was just

led of course to a report that was just completed by the American Association

completed by the American Association

completed by the American Association for public opinion research a poor had

for public opinion research a poor had

for public opinion research a poor had actually put together a task force to do

actually put together a task force to do

actually put together a task force to do a report on pre on the 2016 election

a report on pre on the 2016 election

a report on pre on the 2016 election polling not expecting any you know

polling not expecting any you know

polling not expecting any you know surprising results but they were

surprising results but they were

surprising results but they were confronted with a major surprise so it

confronted with a major surprise so it

confronted with a major surprise so it basically shifted the focus of the

basically shifted the focus of the

basically shifted the focus of the report that was done by a blue-ribbon

report that was done by a blue-ribbon

report that was done by a blue-ribbon committee of the American Association

committee of the American Association

committee of the American Association for public opinion research as you see

for public opinion research as you see

for public opinion research as you see as you see listed here and the big

as you see listed here and the big

as you see listed here and the big question is what did they find

question is what did they find

question is what did they find well what they found first and foremost

well what they found first and foremost

well what they found first and foremost was that the national polls were

was that the national polls were

was that the national polls were generally generally accurate by

generally generally accurate by

generally generally accurate by historical standards that is Hillary

historical standards that is Hillary

historical standards that is Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by two

Clinton won the popular vote by two

Clinton won the popular vote by two percentage points and the polls had her

percentage points and the polls had her

percentage points and the polls had her winning by three or four points and that

winning by three or four points and that

winning by three or four points and that two point difference was similar to

two point difference was similar to

two point difference was similar to historical averages and actually the

historical averages and actually the

historical averages and actually the polls in 2016 were better than the polls

polls in 2016 were better than the polls

polls in 2016 were better than the polls in 2012 and that and that’s something

in 2012 and that and that’s something

in 2012 and that and that’s something that that got lost in the shuffle the

that that got lost in the shuffle the

that that got lost in the shuffle the problem was is that the states had a bad

problem was is that the states had a bad

problem was is that the states had a bad year and in particular there was a bad

year and in particular there was a bad

year and in particular there was a bad year in the key states of Michigan

year in the key states of Michigan

year in the key states of Michigan Wisconsin and in Pennsylvania now the

Wisconsin and in Pennsylvania now the

Wisconsin and in Pennsylvania now the problems with the polls

particular slide basically shows that

particular slide basically shows that the poles had her winning by an average

the poles had her winning by an average

the poles had her winning by an average of two points based on polls by

of two points based on polls by

of two points based on polls by different by different polling

different by different polling

different by different polling organizations the the error that was

organizations the the error that was

organizations the the error that was found in the polls with the magnitude of

found in the polls with the magnitude of

found in the polls with the magnitude of the error was basically about 2.2

the error was basically about 2.2

the error was basically about 2.2 percentage points with the bias in favor

percentage points with the bias in favor

percentage points with the bias in favor of Hillary Hillary Clinton in the graph

of Hillary Hillary Clinton in the graph

of Hillary Hillary Clinton in the graph that you see that the orange line

that you see that the orange line

that you see that the orange line represents the magnitude of the of the

represents the magnitude of the of the

represents the magnitude of the of the error and the blue bars represent the

error and the blue bars represent the

error and the blue bars represent the bias the direction so was there was an

bias the direction so was there was an

bias the direction so was there was an overestimate of the Hillary Clinton vote

overestimate of the Hillary Clinton vote

overestimate of the Hillary Clinton vote if you go back and look at 1936 by the

if you go back and look at 1936 by the

if you go back and look at 1936 by the way there was a huge underestimate

way there was a huge underestimate

way there was a huge underestimate underestimate of the Democratic vote

underestimate of the Democratic vote

underestimate of the Democratic vote even though in 1936 1940 in 1944 the

even though in 1936 1940 in 1944 the

even though in 1936 1940 in 1944 the Gallup poll got the winner right but got

Gallup poll got the winner right but got

Gallup poll got the winner right but got the winner right but by high margins

the winner right but by high margins

the winner right but by high margins that were that were substantially

that were that were substantially

that were that were substantially substantially off in the states the

substantially off in the states the

substantially off in the states the result the results were different the

result the results were different the

result the results were different the magnitudes were on the order of five

magnitudes were on the order of five

magnitudes were on the order of five percentage points which is a lot and

percentage points which is a lot and

percentage points which is a lot and that’s an average in some states it was

that’s an average in some states it was

that’s an average in some states it was bigger in some states it was smaller and

bigger in some states it was smaller and

bigger in some states it was smaller and the bias was in the direction of of the

the bias was in the direction of of the

the bias was in the direction of of the Democrats that is they underestimated

Democrats that is they underestimated

Democrats that is they underestimated Donald Trump spoke and the problem that

Donald Trump spoke and the problem that

Donald Trump spoke and the problem that occurred has to do with the quality of

occurred has to do with the quality of

occurred has to do with the quality of the polls which for me

the polls which for me

the polls which for me and this isn’t cited in the report is

and this isn’t cited in the report is

and this isn’t cited in the report is indicated by the fact that in the last

indicated by the fact that in the last

indicated by the fact that in the last two days before the election there were

two days before the election there were

two days before the election there were about a there were 11 high quality

about a there were 11 high quality

about a there were 11 high quality public opinion polls that were done

public opinion polls that were done

public opinion polls that were done nationally in contrast in the states in

nationally in contrast in the states in

nationally in contrast in the states in the last week before the election in

the last week before the election in

the last week before the election in Wisconsin Michigan in Pennsylvania there

Wisconsin Michigan in Pennsylvania there

Wisconsin Michigan in Pennsylvania there were just a handful of polls and the

were just a handful of polls and the

were just a handful of polls and the quality of those polls the a poor report

quality of those polls the a poor report

quality of those polls the a poor report called in called into question what what

called in called into question what what

called in called into question what what had happened in the election well there

had happened in the election well there

had happened in the election well there were a lot there were a lot of things at

were a lot there were a lot of things at

were a lot there were a lot of things at the a poor report sites one is voters

the a poor report sites one is voters

the a poor report sites one is voters broke in the last day of week of the

broke in the last day of week of the

broke in the last day of week of the election more toward Donald Trump than

election more toward Donald Trump than

election more toward Donald Trump than Hillary Clinton based on the exit polls

Hillary Clinton based on the exit polls

Hillary Clinton based on the exit polls people who decided late in Wisconsin

people who decided late in Wisconsin

people who decided late in Wisconsin Michigan and Pennsylvania

Michigan and Pennsylvania

Michigan and Pennsylvania disproportionately voted for Donald

disproportionately voted for Donald

disproportionately voted for Donald Trump in addition in addition there was

Trump in addition in addition there was

Trump in addition in addition there was a question of what happened with regard

a question of what happened with regard

a question of what happened with regard to voter turnout in the state and the

to voter turnout in the state and the

to voter turnout in the state and the representativeness of the samples what

representativeness of the samples what

representativeness of the samples what they did find is that one problem in the

they did find is that one problem in the

they did find is that one problem in the polls is that the polls in the states in

polls is that the polls in the states in

polls is that the polls in the states in many cases did not weight the weight and

many cases did not weight the weight and

many cases did not weight the weight and or adjust their data statistically for

or adjust their data statistically for

or adjust their data statistically for education that is white voters without a

education that is white voters without a

education that is white voters without a college degree voted disproportionately

college degree voted disproportionately

college degree voted disproportionately for Trump and

for Trump and

for Trump and and the there their non-response the

and the there their non-response the

and the there their non-response the polls was not compensated for by by any

polls was not compensated for by by any

polls was not compensated for by by any waiting in addition and this isn’t in

waiting in addition and this isn’t in

waiting in addition and this isn’t in the report but based on the latest

the report but based on the latest

the report but based on the latest census data we know that voter turnout

census data we know that voter turnout

census data we know that voter turnout among african-american voters was less

among african-american voters was less

among african-american voters was less and we also know from the exit polls is

and we also know from the exit polls is

and we also know from the exit polls is that African American voters supported

that African American voters supported

that African American voters supported Hillary Clinton at slightly lower rates

Hillary Clinton at slightly lower rates

Hillary Clinton at slightly lower rates and they had supported Barack Obama and

and they had supported Barack Obama and

and they had supported Barack Obama and the same team same thing for Latino

the same team same thing for Latino

the same team same thing for Latino voters and in addition with the aiport

voters and in addition with the aiport

voters and in addition with the aiport cited in some states there were called

cited in some states there were called

cited in some states there were called ballot order effects that is that is

ballot order effects that is that is

ballot order effects that is that is that isn’t there were states in which

that isn’t there were states in which

that isn’t there were states in which Trump was disproportionately listed

Trump was disproportionately listed

Trump was disproportionately listed first on the ballot and that may have

first on the ballot and that may have

first on the ballot and that may have led to some slight biases and then last

led to some slight biases and then last

led to some slight biases and then last but not least the report talks about

but not least the report talks about

but not least the report talks about this but I think under states it the big

this but I think under states it the big

this but I think under states it the big problem was not so much in the polls

problem was not so much in the polls

problem was not so much in the polls themselves but in the reporting and in

themselves but in the reporting and in

themselves but in the reporting and in the exaggerating were the perceived

the exaggerating were the perceived

the exaggerating were the perceived exaggerating of the likelihood that

exaggerating of the likelihood that

exaggerating of the likelihood that Hillary Clinton would win the election

Hillary Clinton would win the election

Hillary Clinton would win the election and the fact that the that people did

and the fact that the that people did

and the fact that the that people did not fully appreciate sampling

not fully appreciate sampling

not fully appreciate sampling variability and probabilities in the

variability and probabilities in the

variability and probabilities in the 1948 report the Mosteller report they

1948 report the Mosteller report they

1948 report the Mosteller report they talked also about the lack of

talked also about the lack of

talked also about the lack of appreciation of variability and survey

appreciation of variability and survey

appreciation of variability and survey error particularly among the reporters

error particularly among the reporters

error particularly among the reporters and predictors of the poll results 71%

and predictors of the poll results 71%

and predictors of the poll results 71% it’s not a prediction that Hillary

it’s not a prediction that Hillary

it’s not a prediction that Hillary Clinton when it would win is not a slam

Clinton when it would win is not a slam

Clinton when it would win is not a slam dunk but if you repeat 71 percent enough

dunk but if you repeat 71 percent enough

dunk but if you repeat 71 percent enough online and on network news and on cable

online and on network news and on cable

online and on network news and on cable news people get the impression that she

news people get the impression that she

news people get the impression that she got the impression that she was a

got the impression that she was a

got the impression that she was a shoo-in and now and that that perception

shoo-in and now and that that perception

shoo-in and now and that that perception was a big part I would say the most

was a big part I would say the most

was a big part I would say the most significant part of the debacle that

significant part of the debacle that

significant part of the debacle that occurred and the final conclusion of the

occurred and the final conclusion of the

occurred and the final conclusion of the a poor report is that election polls are

a poor report is that election polls are

a poor report is that election polls are not all polls what the pollsters all

not all polls what the pollsters all

not all polls what the pollsters all worried about is that when they when

worried about is that when they when

worried about is that when they when they failed to predict elections right

they failed to predict elections right

they failed to predict elections right people lose faith in polling in this in

people lose faith in polling in this in

people lose faith in polling in this in this in this in this election the

this in this in this election the

this in this in this election the national polls were reasonably accurate

national polls were reasonably accurate

national polls were reasonably accurate but more importantly election polls are

but more importantly election polls are

but more importantly election polls are different from all polls in the sense

different from all polls in the sense

different from all polls in the sense they you’re trying to make predictions

they you’re trying to make predictions

they you’re trying to make predictions and wait or adjust your data to an

and wait or adjust your data to an

and wait or adjust your data to an electorate that you don’t know where as

electorate that you don’t know where as

electorate that you don’t know where as normal public opinion polls that are

normal public opinion polls that are

normal public opinion polls that are done between elections and don’t focus

done between elections and don’t focus

done between elections and don’t focus on elections are samples of the adult

on elections are samples of the adult

on elections are samples of the adult population for which we have census data

population for which we have census data

population for which we have census data at the benchmark what

at the benchmark what

at the benchmark what the composition of the public is so

the composition of the public is so

the composition of the public is so there should be much less error in

there should be much less error in

there should be much less error in polling overall compared to election

polling overall compared to election

polling overall compared to election polls what what are predictions about

polls what what are predictions about

polls what what are predictions about the future quality of survey is giving

the future quality of survey is giving

the future quality of survey is giving the even declining response rates and

the even declining response rates and

the even declining response rates and other issues in polling that’s a topic

other issues in polling that’s a topic

other issues in polling that’s a topic for another occasion if you want to read

for another occasion if you want to read

for another occasion if you want to read about this further you should see the

about this further you should see the

about this further you should see the latest Pew Research Center report

latest Pew Research Center report

latest Pew Research Center report entitled what low response rates mean

entitled what low response rates mean

entitled what low response rates mean for telephone surveys the basic finding

for telephone surveys the basic finding

for telephone surveys the basic finding of that study is that for the most part

of that study is that for the most part

of that study is that for the most part good high-quality Poland could be done

good high-quality Poland could be done

good high-quality Poland could be done but there’s certain kinds of problems

but there’s certain kinds of problems

but there’s certain kinds of problems that we need to be cognizant about thank

that we need to be cognizant about thank

that we need to be cognizant about thank [Applause]

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