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Editing memories while you sleep | Daniela Dudysová | TEDxYouth@ISPrague


imagine you could keep only one memory

imagine you could keep only one memory which one would it be your graduation

which one would it be your graduation

which one would it be your graduation day your wedding day or perhaps or some

day your wedding day or perhaps or some

day your wedding day or perhaps or some that one fine day when your favorite

that one fine day when your favorite

that one fine day when your favorite football team finally wins the league on

football team finally wins the league on

football team finally wins the league on the other hand if you could erase one

the other hand if you could erase one

the other hand if you could erase one memory which one would it be a bad

memory which one would it be a bad

memory which one would it be a bad breakup or some awfully embarrassing

breakup or some awfully embarrassing

breakup or some awfully embarrassing situation such as throwing up on your

situation such as throwing up on your

situation such as throwing up on your boyfriend after first meeting his

boyfriend after first meeting his

boyfriend after first meeting his parents for a dinner as in my case

well these and other memories define us

well these and other memories define us they give us sense of who we are in the

they give us sense of who we are in the

they give us sense of who we are in the world they give us our past as well as

world they give us our past as well as

world they give us our past as well as the future yet numerous neuropsychiatric

the future yet numerous neuropsychiatric

the future yet numerous neuropsychiatric disorders have been linked to some form

disorders have been linked to some form

disorders have been linked to some form of memory impairments such as amnesia

of memory impairments such as amnesia

of memory impairments such as amnesia Alzheimer’s disease schizophrenia

Alzheimer’s disease schizophrenia

Alzheimer’s disease schizophrenia depression post-traumatic stress

depression post-traumatic stress

depression post-traumatic stress disorder and many others it is therefore

disorder and many others it is therefore

disorder and many others it is therefore essential to study the ways in which we

essential to study the ways in which we

essential to study the ways in which we can improve these memory deficits

can improve these memory deficits

can improve these memory deficits associated with these conditions but can

associated with these conditions but can

associated with these conditions but can we can we somehow enhance the wanted

we can we somehow enhance the wanted

we can we somehow enhance the wanted memories and perhaps delete the ones we

memories and perhaps delete the ones we

memories and perhaps delete the ones we don’t actually want well in science

don’t actually want well in science

don’t actually want well in science fiction we can in the Matrix movie the

fiction we can in the Matrix movie the

fiction we can in the Matrix movie the main protagonist proclaimed I know

main protagonist proclaimed I know

main protagonist proclaimed I know cumaru after a brief session of a lot of

cumaru after a brief session of a lot of

cumaru after a brief session of a lot of uploading the martial art skills onto

uploading the martial art skills onto

uploading the martial art skills onto his brain in another movie Eternal

his brain in another movie Eternal

his brain in another movie Eternal Sunshine of the spotless mind the main

Sunshine of the spotless mind the main

Sunshine of the spotless mind the main protagonists decided to completely erase

protagonists decided to completely erase

protagonists decided to completely erase the memory of their ex-partner it is a

the memory of their ex-partner it is a

the memory of their ex-partner it is a very exciting idea to think that we will

very exciting idea to think that we will

very exciting idea to think that we will be able to manipulate our memories in

be able to manipulate our memories in

be able to manipulate our memories in the future in such a way but can we is

the future in such a way but can we is

the future in such a way but can we is our science as good can we as does the

our science as good can we as does the

our science as good can we as does the knowledge of our brain reach so far as

knowledge of our brain reach so far as

knowledge of our brain reach so far as to being able to identify a specific

to being able to identify a specific

to being able to identify a specific memory and then edited according to how

memory and then edited according to how

memory and then edited according to how we want it well

we want it well

we want it well some scientists including me believe

some scientists including me believe

some scientists including me believe that something as commonplace as sleep

that something as commonplace as sleep

that something as commonplace as sleep could be the key to enhancing our memory

could be the key to enhancing our memory

could be the key to enhancing our memory and that’s because sleep has been shown

and that’s because sleep has been shown

and that’s because sleep has been shown to play an important role in the

to play an important role in the

to play an important role in the consolidation or saving of our memories

consolidation or saving of our memories

consolidation or saving of our memories an especially slow wave sleep has been

an especially slow wave sleep has been

an especially slow wave sleep has been shown to play an important role in this

shown to play an important role in this

shown to play an important role in this process but before I move on to tell you

process but before I move on to tell you

process but before I move on to tell you more about slow-wave sleep and

more about slow-wave sleep and

more about slow-wave sleep and consolidation and how we can use these

consolidation and how we can use these

consolidation and how we can use these to enhance and change our memories

to enhance and change our memories

to enhance and change our memories I’ll just firstly tell you what we

I’ll just firstly tell you what we

I’ll just firstly tell you what we actually how we actually get information

actually how we actually get information

actually how we actually get information about our sleep we are interested in

about our sleep we are interested in

about our sleep we are interested in brain activity electrical brain activity

brain activity electrical brain activity

brain activity electrical brain activity and we study this we find out

and we study this we find out

and we study this we find out information about our brains activity by

information about our brains activity by

information about our brains activity by placing electrodes on our scalp as you

placing electrodes on our scalp as you

placing electrodes on our scalp as you can see me on the picture of Ed my work

can see me on the picture of Ed my work

can see me on the picture of Ed my work actually and brain activity during the

actually and brain activity during the

actually and brain activity during the sleep and during wake there are very two

sleep and during wake there are very two

sleep and during wake there are very two different things really in the waking

different things really in the waking

different things really in the waking State our brains are very active and the

State our brains are very active and the

State our brains are very active and the whole and the activity is kind of

whole and the activity is kind of

whole and the activity is kind of chaotic and all over the place but then

chaotic and all over the place but then

chaotic and all over the place but then during sleep everything just kind of

during sleep everything just kind of

during sleep everything just kind of slows down and the whole rein plays the

slows down and the whole rein plays the

slows down and the whole rein plays the same slow tune and during this slow wave

same slow tune and during this slow wave

same slow tune and during this slow wave sleep the consolidation happens and and

sleep the consolidation happens and and

sleep the consolidation happens and and the consolidation is important because

the consolidation is important because

the consolidation is important because it allows for transfer of memories from

it allows for transfer of memories from

it allows for transfer of memories from the short-term stores in the brain into

the short-term stores in the brain into

the short-term stores in the brain into the long-term stores of the brain and to

the long-term stores of the brain and to

the long-term stores of the brain and to better explain the process of the memory

better explain the process of the memory

better explain the process of the memory transfer from one area of the brain to

transfer from one area of the brain to

transfer from one area of the brain to another I’ll give you an example a

another I’ll give you an example a

another I’ll give you an example a metaphor sort of consider your post

metaphor sort of consider your post

metaphor sort of consider your post office in order for you to receive a

office in order for you to receive a

office in order for you to receive a letter from your post office the post

letter from your post office the post

letter from your post office the post will firstly temporarily hold your

will firstly temporarily hold your

will firstly temporarily hold your letter in some kind of temporary storage

letter in some kind of temporary storage

letter in some kind of temporary storage facility and in parallel in our brains

facility and in parallel in our brains

facility and in parallel in our brains this temporary storage facility is an

this temporary storage facility is an

this temporary storage facility is an area called hippocampus it’s a

area called hippocampus it’s a

area called hippocampus it’s a Tinie see your shape structure essential

Tinie see your shape structure essential

Tinie see your shape structure essential for the memory processes and their your

for the memory processes and their your

for the memory processes and their your letter is received selected and sent

letter is received selected and sent

letter is received selected and sent somewhere to your home address in the

somewhere to your home address in the

somewhere to your home address in the wider brain where the information is

wider brain where the information is

wider brain where the information is stored for long term use interestingly

stored for long term use interestingly

stored for long term use interestingly this process of memory transfer from one

this process of memory transfer from one

this process of memory transfer from one area to another it’s easier during your

area to another it’s easier during your

area to another it’s easier during your sleep there’s less traffic on the

sleep there’s less traffic on the

sleep there’s less traffic on the streets of your brain and the post

streets of your brain and the post

streets of your brain and the post office does not receive any new

office does not receive any new

office does not receive any new information in this time point and

information in this time point and

information in this time point and interestingly in the last 10 years or so

interestingly in the last 10 years or so

interestingly in the last 10 years or so researchers managed to actually tap onto

researchers managed to actually tap onto

researchers managed to actually tap onto this process of memory transfer from one

this process of memory transfer from one

this process of memory transfer from one area to another they were able to change

area to another they were able to change

area to another they were able to change the mode of transportation of this post

the mode of transportation of this post

the mode of transportation of this post from the regular mode and make it more

from the regular mode and make it more

from the regular mode and make it more into a Ferrari like process to make the

into a Ferrari like process to make the

into a Ferrari like process to make the process more efficient and they do this

process more efficient and they do this

process more efficient and they do this using several techniques such as

using several techniques such as

using several techniques such as acoustic stimulation or or factory

acoustic stimulation or or factory

acoustic stimulation or or factory stimulation and now let’s finish with

stimulation and now let’s finish with

stimulation and now let’s finish with the post office metaphor and I’ll tell

the post office metaphor and I’ll tell

the post office metaphor and I’ll tell you more about these two techniques my

you more about these two techniques my

you more about these two techniques my favorite part so first let’s start with

favorite part so first let’s start with

favorite part so first let’s start with the first one olfactory stimulation just

the first one olfactory stimulation just

the first one olfactory stimulation just imagine you are visiting the sleep

imagine you are visiting the sleep

imagine you are visiting the sleep laboratory for an experiment as a

laboratory for an experiment as a

laboratory for an experiment as a volunteer the researcher will give you a

volunteer the researcher will give you a

volunteer the researcher will give you a task testing our memory such as Lister

task testing our memory such as Lister

task testing our memory such as Lister you’ll have to memorize a list of words

you’ll have to memorize a list of words

you’ll have to memorize a list of words and after during then during some parts

and after during then during some parts

and after during then during some parts of the task during some trials you will

of the task during some trials you will

of the task during some trials you will be presented with a certain fragrance

be presented with a certain fragrance

be presented with a certain fragrance such as smell of rose and after you’re

such as smell of rose and after you’re

such as smell of rose and after you’re finished with this learning part you’re

finished with this learning part you’re

finished with this learning part you’re just loved to go to bed and sleep and

just loved to go to bed and sleep and

just loved to go to bed and sleep and then at some point during the night

then at some point during the night

then at some point during the night you’ll be presented with the same smell

you’ll be presented with the same smell

you’ll be presented with the same smell again and this effectively causes your

again and this effectively causes your

again and this effectively causes your brain to react in a way which replace

brain to react in a way which replace

brain to react in a way which replace the same activation patterns which it

the same activation patterns which it

the same activation patterns which it had during the previous learning session

had during the previous learning session

had during the previous learning session and in the morning you’re more likely to

and in the morning you’re more likely to

and in the morning you’re more likely to remember more information than if the

remember more information than if the

remember more information than if the if the smell was not presented to you at

if the smell was not presented to you at

if the smell was not presented to you at night and this type of technique is

night and this type of technique is

night and this type of technique is termed as targeted memory reactivation

termed as targeted memory reactivation

termed as targeted memory reactivation because your memories are artificially

because your memories are artificially

because your memories are artificially reactivated by these cues or factory

reactivated by these cues or factory

reactivated by these cues or factory cues during the night and the second

cues during the night and the second

cues during the night and the second type of technique works very very much

type of technique works very very much

type of technique works very very much on the same principle except now the

on the same principle except now the

on the same principle except now the olfactory cues are substituted with the

olfactory cues are substituted with the

olfactory cues are substituted with the sound cues such as this one and in more

sound cues such as this one and in more

sound cues such as this one and in more recent years scientists advanced this

recent years scientists advanced this

recent years scientists advanced this technique even further and they show

technique even further and they show

technique even further and they show that we actually don’t need to use any

that we actually don’t need to use any

that we actually don’t need to use any cues during the learning part it’s

cues during the learning part it’s

cues during the learning part it’s enough if we use cues such as this one

in exactly two moments of the slow-wave

in exactly two moments of the slow-wave sleep and if we do this effectively this

sleep and if we do this effectively this

sleep and if we do this effectively this causes your brainwaves to be more

causes your brainwaves to be more

causes your brainwaves to be more efficient again and overall in the

efficient again and overall in the

efficient again and overall in the morning you’re more likely to remember

morning you’re more likely to remember

morning you’re more likely to remember about 10% more information and

about 10% more information and

about 10% more information and interestingly this was shown to work

interestingly this was shown to work

interestingly this was shown to work even in older population where people

even in older population where people

even in older population where people are more likely to remember about 26%

are more likely to remember about 26%

are more likely to remember about 26% more words then if the sons were not

more words then if the sons were not

more words then if the sons were not presented to them this is very

presented to them this is very

presented to them this is very encouraging news because many of us will

encouraging news because many of us will

encouraging news because many of us will experience some form of memory loss as

experience some form of memory loss as

experience some form of memory loss as we age and so this form of sleeping

we age and so this form of sleeping

we age and so this form of sleeping therapy might be just what our brains

therapy might be just what our brains

therapy might be just what our brains need to keep those memories alive so

need to keep those memories alive so

need to keep those memories alive so this acoustic stimulation and olfactory

this acoustic stimulation and olfactory

this acoustic stimulation and olfactory stimulation they work on our memories in

stimulation they work on our memories in

stimulation they work on our memories in general they enhance our memory in

general they enhance our memory in

general they enhance our memory in general and actually we’re still quite

general and actually we’re still quite

general and actually we’re still quite far from being able to identify a

far from being able to identify a

far from being able to identify a specific memory in our brain and then be

specific memory in our brain and then be

specific memory in our brain and then be able to edit it and part of the problem

able to edit it and part of the problem

able to edit it and part of the problem is that we actually don’t know where

is that we actually don’t know where

is that we actually don’t know where these memories are localized exactly

these memories are localized exactly

these memories are localized exactly they are probably distributed across the

they are probably distributed across the

they are probably distributed across the whole brain but in animal research we

whole brain but in animal research we

whole brain but in animal research we see some advances already for example in

see some advances already for example in

see some advances already for example in genetically modified mice

genetically modified mice

genetically modified mice using light beam researchers were able

using light beam researchers were able

using light beam researchers were able to effectively turn on and off a mouse’s

to effectively turn on and off a mouse’s

to effectively turn on and off a mouse’s fear memory at their will and of course

fear memory at their will and of course

fear memory at their will and of course this research is valuable and intriguing

this research is valuable and intriguing

this research is valuable and intriguing but we cannot directly apply it to

but we cannot directly apply it to

but we cannot directly apply it to humans it would be kind of difficult to

humans it would be kind of difficult to

humans it would be kind of difficult to genetically modify them and then change

genetically modify them and then change

genetically modify them and then change their memories so we will have to come

their memories so we will have to come

their memories so we will have to come up with new and different techniques of

up with new and different techniques of

up with new and different techniques of how we can actually attain this but even

how we can actually attain this but even

how we can actually attain this but even if we reach this goal and I able to

if we reach this goal and I able to

if we reach this goal and I able to select that one memory which we want to

select that one memory which we want to

select that one memory which we want to raise or improve should we try to do it

when I put my researcher side away for a

when I put my researcher side away for a moment I must I must admit that I’m

moment I must I must admit that I’m

moment I must I must admit that I’m actually a little afraid of this

actually a little afraid of this

actually a little afraid of this technology because inevitably it brings

technology because inevitably it brings

technology because inevitably it brings important ethical considerations as we

important ethical considerations as we

important ethical considerations as we humans are very good at misusing the

humans are very good at misusing the

humans are very good at misusing the potential of new technologies should we

potential of new technologies should we

potential of new technologies should we even try to attain it and a good example

even try to attain it and a good example

even try to attain it and a good example of how the memory manipulation

of how the memory manipulation

of how the memory manipulation technology can be misused was shown in

technology can be misused was shown in

technology can be misused was shown in another movie in Total Recall there the

another movie in Total Recall there the

another movie in Total Recall there the protagonist had his memory completely

protagonist had his memory completely

protagonist had his memory completely replaced was given a new name but the

replaced was given a new name but the

replaced was given a new name but the changes in his memory that took total

changes in his memory that took total

changes in his memory that took total confusion of himself in the end he

confusion of himself in the end he

confusion of himself in the end he simply did not know who he was so does

simply did not know who he was so does

simply did not know who he was so does that mean that we should give up on this

that mean that we should give up on this

that mean that we should give up on this technology completely well I don’t think

technology completely well I don’t think

technology completely well I don’t think so

so

so despite the possible risks I still

despite the possible risks I still

despite the possible risks I still believe that the benefits may outweigh

believe that the benefits may outweigh

believe that the benefits may outweigh the costs especially if we can create a

the costs especially if we can create a

the costs especially if we can create a set of clear ethical boundaries of this

set of clear ethical boundaries of this

set of clear ethical boundaries of this technology I envision a future where

technology I envision a future where

technology I envision a future where you’ll be may able to make an

you’ll be may able to make an

you’ll be may able to make an appointment at sleep and memory clinic

appointment at sleep and memory clinic

appointment at sleep and memory clinic and for example if you might decide

and for example if you might decide

and for example if you might decide never to forget a face of a deceased

never to forget a face of a deceased

never to forget a face of a deceased loved one if you are a war veteran or a

loved one if you are a war veteran or a

loved one if you are a war veteran or a rape victim you might decide to forget

rape victim you might decide to forget

rape victim you might decide to forget your horrible experience

your horrible experience

your horrible experience and erase the trauma completely or if

and erase the trauma completely or if

and erase the trauma completely or if you are recently diagnosed with

you are recently diagnosed with

you are recently diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease you may wish to

Alzheimer’s disease you may wish to

Alzheimer’s disease you may wish to update your memories repeatedly to delay

update your memories repeatedly to delay

update your memories repeatedly to delay the progression of the disorder in order

the progression of the disorder in order

the progression of the disorder in order to keep your past to keep yourself so

to keep your past to keep yourself so

to keep your past to keep yourself so the goal of this talk was to introduce

the goal of this talk was to introduce

the goal of this talk was to introduce you to the idea that science is slowly

you to the idea that science is slowly

you to the idea that science is slowly converging with science fiction India in

converging with science fiction India in

converging with science fiction India in the area of manipulate memory

the area of manipulate memory

the area of manipulate memory manipulations and I sincerely hope that

manipulations and I sincerely hope that

manipulations and I sincerely hope that our signs will eventually catch up with

our signs will eventually catch up with

our signs will eventually catch up with science fiction and that our lives and

science fiction and that our lives and

science fiction and that our lives and memories will be improved by our

memories will be improved by our

memories will be improved by our favorite thing sleep

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