today I am NOT the hero it is not about me knowing who I will be speaking up on
me knowing who I will be speaking up on
me knowing who I will be speaking up on behalf of a hero he is quite sick today
behalf of a hero he is quite sick today
behalf of a hero he is quite sick today he has a fever we all know him he is not
he has a fever we all know him he is not
he has a fever we all know him he is not a hero of tomorrow not only the hero of
a hero of tomorrow not only the hero of
a hero of tomorrow not only the hero of tomorrow he was the hero of yesterday he
tomorrow he was the hero of yesterday he
tomorrow he was the hero of yesterday he is the hero of now he is the earth the
is the hero of now he is the earth the
is the hero of now he is the earth the unsung hero
before I begin I would like to ask for
before I begin I would like to ask for his permission whether I could speak on
his permission whether I could speak on
his permission whether I could speak on the behalf of him let me hear from him
the behalf of him let me hear from him
the behalf of him let me hear from him verse
he said yes I can speak on behalf of him
he said yes I can speak on behalf of him but he has a gender reminders to all the
but he has a gender reminders to all the
but he has a gender reminders to all the audience first he say please sit
audience first he say please sit
audience first he say please sit straight
take a deep breath and stay alert
take a deep breath and stay alert because he said this because lies to
because he said this because lies to
because he said this because lies to make people think as the speaker
make people think as the speaker
make people think as the speaker unfortunately I have to say it is ladies
unfortunately I have to say it is ladies
unfortunately I have to say it is ladies and gentlemen what define success think
and gentlemen what define success think
and gentlemen what define success think about it today our success is defined
about it today our success is defined
about it today our success is defined economically a country success is
economically a country success is
economically a country success is defined by its gross domestic product
defined by its gross domestic product
defined by its gross domestic product GDP and gross national income G and I
GDP and gross national income G and I
GDP and gross national income G and I the World Bank classifies countries
the World Bank classifies countries
the World Bank classifies countries classify a country as high-income nation
classify a country as high-income nation
classify a country as high-income nation middle-income nation or low income
middle-income nation or low income
middle-income nation or low income nation according to it is G and I that
nation according to it is G and I that
nation according to it is G and I that is why today we go and chase after the
is why today we go and chase after the
is why today we go and chase after the numbers the growth in numbers but we
numbers the growth in numbers but we
numbers the growth in numbers but we ever stop and ask ourselves what is the
ever stop and ask ourselves what is the
ever stop and ask ourselves what is the limit to growth
you might be thinking is there a limit
you might be thinking is there a limit maybe yes maybe no Mohamed Gandhi once
maybe yes maybe no Mohamed Gandhi once
maybe yes maybe no Mohamed Gandhi once said this the world has enough for
said this the world has enough for
said this the world has enough for everyone needs but not enough for
everyone needs but not enough for
everyone needs but not enough for everyone’s need great think about it
everyone’s need great think about it
everyone’s need great think about it what do we need clean air clean water no
what do we need clean air clean water no
what do we need clean air clean water no food a safe shelter because the right
food a safe shelter because the right
food a safe shelter because the right do you agree but today we want more than
do you agree but today we want more than
do you agree but today we want more than that we want more profit more profit
that we want more profit more profit
that we want more profit more profit means more production more productions
means more production more productions
means more production more productions means more consumptions and that is why
means more consumptions and that is why
means more consumptions and that is why today let me see every year the demand
today let me see every year the demand
today let me see every year the demand for the fossil fuels on the increase but
for the fossil fuels on the increase but
for the fossil fuels on the increase but never decrease when there is more
never decrease when there is more
never decrease when there is more consumption of the natural resources
consumption of the natural resources
consumption of the natural resources means there’s more taking from the
means there’s more taking from the
means there’s more taking from the nature now doesn’t mean that we have to
nature now doesn’t mean that we have to
nature now doesn’t mean that we have to stop growing
when it comes to the questions what is
when it comes to the questions what is the limited growth the nature has a
the limited growth the nature has a
the limited growth the nature has a limit one day the natural resources that
limit one day the natural resources that
limit one day the natural resources that we are exploiting who come through
we are exploiting who come through
we are exploiting who come through depletions but it is also the natures
depletions but it is also the natures
depletions but it is also the natures has something to teach us the nature
has something to teach us the nature
has something to teach us the nature work as an ecosystem in this ecosystems
work as an ecosystem in this ecosystems
work as an ecosystem in this ecosystems it shows how an organisms interact with
it shows how an organisms interact with
it shows how an organisms interact with its environment in which it is a system
its environment in which it is a system
its environment in which it is a system how a is influencing B and you see how B
how a is influencing B and you see how B
how a is influencing B and you see how B is influencing C and D then C in terms
is influencing C and D then C in terms
is influencing C and D then C in terms it is influencing D and how D is
it is influencing D and how D is
it is influencing D and how D is influenced think back to be through a
let us look at an example a very simple
let us look at an example a very simple footpath we take a look at the most the
footpath we take a look at the most the
footpath we take a look at the most the bottom most food chain we have the
bottom most food chain we have the
bottom most food chain we have the producer the green plant the green plant
producer the green plant the green plant
producer the green plant the green plant is consumed by the mouse and then mouse
is consumed by the mouse and then mouse
is consumed by the mouse and then mouse is consumed by snake ow
is consumed by snake ow
is consumed by snake ow well cats rabbits then the snake will
well cats rabbits then the snake will
well cats rabbits then the snake will then be consumed by kite now imagine one
then be consumed by kite now imagine one
then be consumed by kite now imagine one day the family use the pesticide and
day the family use the pesticide and
day the family use the pesticide and kills all the mouths what will happen to
kills all the mouths what will happen to
kills all the mouths what will happen to this food web view the populations of
this food web view the populations of
this food web view the populations of snake increase or decrease of cause a
snake increase or decrease of cause a
snake increase or decrease of cause a decrease
decrease
decrease he has no mouth to hunt for as food what
he has no mouth to hunt for as food what
he has no mouth to hunt for as food what about the number the populations of owl
about the number the populations of owl
about the number the populations of owl will increase or decrease
decrease it is the same case and what
decrease it is the same case and what about the number of Wildcats which has
about the number of Wildcats which has
about the number of Wildcats which has been consuming the mouse as well we
been consuming the mouse as well we
been consuming the mouse as well we increase or decrease now it is a bit
increase or decrease now it is a bit
increase or decrease now it is a bit tricky because of our cat can conceive
tricky because of our cat can conceive
tricky because of our cat can conceive on a rabbit as well so the impact that’s
on a rabbit as well so the impact that’s
on a rabbit as well so the impact that’s influencing the population of the worker
influencing the population of the worker
influencing the population of the worker is not as serious as to the owl and
is not as serious as to the owl and
is not as serious as to the owl and snake and eventually when the mouse
snake and eventually when the mouse
snake and eventually when the mouse disappeared the only food to devour cat
disappeared the only food to devour cat
disappeared the only food to devour cat will be the rabbit so the population of
will be the rabbit so the population of
will be the rabbit so the population of the rabbit eventually decrease and this
the rabbit eventually decrease and this
the rabbit eventually decrease and this is what in nature is teaching us that
is what in nature is teaching us that
is what in nature is teaching us that they work in a system a system that each
they work in a system a system that each
they work in a system a system that each element is relying on each other sorry I
element is relying on each other sorry I
element is relying on each other sorry I saw that eat the nature we have to work
saw that eat the nature we have to work
saw that eat the nature we have to work in a system if you reverse the nature if
in a system if you reverse the nature if
in a system if you reverse the nature if you be disaster so in 1970s the first
you be disaster so in 1970s the first
you be disaster so in 1970s the first model that is considering how the
model that is considering how the
model that is considering how the concentrations of carbon dioxide in the
concentrations of carbon dioxide in the
concentrations of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is stimulating the rise in
atmosphere is stimulating the rise in
atmosphere is stimulating the rise in temperature was developed it was the
temperature was developed it was the
temperature was developed it was the very first one and in this model it was
very first one and in this model it was
very first one and in this model it was predicted that by the year of 2013 it is
predicted that by the year of 2013 it is
predicted that by the year of 2013 it is it was expected that the carbon dioxide
it was expected that the carbon dioxide
it was expected that the carbon dioxide concentration will rise to 400 ppm parts
concentration will rise to 400 ppm parts
concentration will rise to 400 ppm parts per million and that will induce an
per million and that will induce an
per million and that will induce an increase in temperature by 0.8 degrees
increase in temperature by 0.8 degrees
increase in temperature by 0.8 degrees Celsius today we are feeling it is true
even pretty that is we continue with the
even pretty that is we continue with the case of the consumptions 2% increase in
case of the consumptions 2% increase in
case of the consumptions 2% increase in the consumption of fossil fuels every
the consumption of fossil fuels every
the consumption of fossil fuels every year the temperature is going to rise up
year the temperature is going to rise up
year the temperature is going to rise up to 4.2 degrees Celsius by the end of
to 4.2 degrees Celsius by the end of
to 4.2 degrees Celsius by the end of this century and later on a few years
this century and later on a few years
this century and later on a few years later with the more advanced in
later with the more advanced in
later with the more advanced in technology a more complex model was also
technology a more complex model was also
technology a more complex model was also developed they also show similar result
developed they also show similar result
developed they also show similar result to what was predicted in this model and
to what was predicted in this model and
to what was predicted in this model and in 2015 the orders of this book
in 2015 the orders of this book
in 2015 the orders of this book flourishing within limits to growth this
flourishing within limits to growth this
flourishing within limits to growth this group of scientists they develop a model
group of scientists they develop a model
group of scientists they develop a model and now this model it runs on different
and now this model it runs on different
and now this model it runs on different scenarios and it tells one peek at what
scenarios and it tells one peek at what
scenarios and it tells one peek at what can we do in this century before the
can we do in this century before the
can we do in this century before the temperature rise up to four points who
temperature rise up to four points who
temperature rise up to four points who degree Celsius how can we slow down the
degree Celsius how can we slow down the
degree Celsius how can we slow down the rise in temperature he came to the
rise in temperature he came to the
rise in temperature he came to the conclusion that as long as we are able
conclusion that as long as we are able
conclusion that as long as we are able to start investing stop using the
to start investing stop using the
to start investing stop using the renewable energy at 2020 and have this
renewable energy at 2020 and have this
renewable energy at 2020 and have this fully replaced have it has the fossil
fully replaced have it has the fossil
fully replaced have it has the fossil fuel fully replaced by the renewable
fuel fully replaced by the renewable
fuel fully replaced by the renewable energy by the end of 2016 we will be
energy by the end of 2016 we will be
energy by the end of 2016 we will be able to maintain it hamper a surprise to
able to maintain it hamper a surprise to
able to maintain it hamper a surprise to between 2.5 to 3 degrees Celsius by the
between 2.5 to 3 degrees Celsius by the
between 2.5 to 3 degrees Celsius by the end of the century I have to tell you
end of the century I have to tell you
end of the century I have to tell you that 1 degree Celsius is everyone’s
that 1 degree Celsius is everyone’s
that 1 degree Celsius is everyone’s nightmare and if you would have realized
nightmare and if you would have realized
nightmare and if you would have realized we are probably the last generation to
we are probably the last generation to
we are probably the last generation to act on it coming to the end of this
act on it coming to the end of this
act on it coming to the end of this century 2000 hundred we
century 2000 hundred we
century 2000 hundred we most of us here maybe in our 80s or 90s
most of us here maybe in our 80s or 90s
most of us here maybe in our 80s or 90s we are the last generation to act on it
my second question to you why
my second question to you why development but not grooved when I was
development but not grooved when I was
development but not grooved when I was preparing through this talk I talked to
preparing through this talk I talked to
preparing through this talk I talked to a number of people one of them was the
a number of people one of them was the
a number of people one of them was the author of the book flourishing within
author of the book flourishing within
author of the book flourishing within the limits to growth so I told him prof
the limits to growth so I told him prof
the limits to growth so I told him prof this is the situation I have a talk I
this is the situation I have a talk I
this is the situation I have a talk I wish to talk about the ecosystem I wish
wish to talk about the ecosystem I wish
wish to talk about the ecosystem I wish to talk about climate change and how it
to talk about climate change and how it
to talk about climate change and how it is based on the system thinking we can
is based on the system thinking we can
is based on the system thinking we can do something about it and I say my topic
do something about it and I say my topic
do something about it and I say my topic my proposed topic is modeling two words
my proposed topic is modeling two words
my proposed topic is modeling two words sustainable growth we came to these
sustainable growth we came to these
sustainable growth we came to these discussions that the prof asked me then
discussions that the prof asked me then
discussions that the prof asked me then you find it it is very contradicting to
you find it it is very contradicting to
you find it it is very contradicting to say sustainable growth because we know
say sustainable growth because we know
say sustainable growth because we know that growth is referring to quantitative
that growth is referring to quantitative
that growth is referring to quantitative increment in fact we know that the earth
increment in fact we know that the earth
increment in fact we know that the earth has limited resources to offer us we can
has limited resources to offer us we can
has limited resources to offer us we can be always taking from the earth forever
be always taking from the earth forever
be always taking from the earth forever if it comes through depletion that is
if it comes through depletion that is
if it comes through depletion that is why
why
why the United Nations use the words
the United Nations use the words
the United Nations use the words development instead of growth the words
development instead of growth the words
development instead of growth the words development it is referring to the
development it is referring to the
development it is referring to the improvement in terms of quality and now
improvement in terms of quality and now
improvement in terms of quality and now when I say in terms of quality is
when I say in terms of quality is
when I say in terms of quality is referring to our well-being our
referring to our well-being our
referring to our well-being our happiness our health education or even
happiness our health education or even
happiness our health education or even love and if you look at this SDG
love and if you look at this SDG
love and if you look at this SDG affordable and clean energy is on the
affordable and clean energy is on the
affordable and clean energy is on the seventh agenda and here if you bring to
seventh agenda and here if you bring to
seventh agenda and here if you bring to my last question to you what is the
my last question to you what is the
my last question to you what is the trade off if we go hundred percent
trade off if we go hundred percent
trade off if we go hundred percent renewable yes going to renewable we
renewable yes going to renewable we
renewable yes going to renewable we could delay the rising temperature but
could delay the rising temperature but
could delay the rising temperature but what is the trade off everything come
what is the trade off everything come
what is the trade off everything come with a trade-off according to the United
with a trade-off according to the United
with a trade-off according to the United Nations in order for us to fully replace
Nations in order for us to fully replace
Nations in order for us to fully replace fossil fuels by the renewable energy the
fossil fuels by the renewable energy the
fossil fuels by the renewable energy the investment that we are investing into
investment that we are investing into
investment that we are investing into renewable made energy right now has to
renewable made energy right now has to
renewable made energy right now has to be tripled which means it has to be
be tripled which means it has to be
be tripled which means it has to be increased from 400 millions USD per year
increased from 400 millions USD per year
increased from 400 millions USD per year right now to 1.25 trillions USD per year
right now to 1.25 trillions USD per year
right now to 1.25 trillions USD per year before 2030 we have a limited time frame
before 2030 we have a limited time frame
before 2030 we have a limited time frame let’s take the case in Malaysia see now
let’s take the case in Malaysia see now
let’s take the case in Malaysia see now here in Malaysia we want to go hundred
here in Malaysia we want to go hundred
here in Malaysia we want to go hundred percent renewable and we found that the
percent renewable and we found that the
percent renewable and we found that the hydropower is the cheapest to invest in
hydropower is the cheapest to invest in
hydropower is the cheapest to invest in should we go hundred percent with
should we go hundred percent with
should we go hundred percent with hydropower no why going hundred thousand
hydropower no why going hundred thousand
hydropower no why going hundred thousand hydropower in is cutting down more trees
hydropower in is cutting down more trees
hydropower in is cutting down more trees the dams it is deforestation taking
the dams it is deforestation taking
the dams it is deforestation taking another case we found that there is a
another case we found that there is a
another case we found that there is a very fast way of growing crops and then
very fast way of growing crops and then
very fast way of growing crops and then converted into a recipe
converted into a recipe
converted into a recipe should we go all-out for biomass energy
should we go all-out for biomass energy
should we go all-out for biomass energy no growing crops means yeah we have to
no growing crops means yeah we have to
no growing crops means yeah we have to consider we need land and water to grow
consider we need land and water to grow
consider we need land and water to grow food for our own consumption as well
food for our own consumption as well
food for our own consumption as well which is our basic needs and now this is
which is our basic needs and now this is
which is our basic needs and now this is what most of the energy planning
what most of the energy planning
what most of the energy planning researchers are working on the research
researchers are working on the research
researchers are working on the research questions that we are trying to answer
questions that we are trying to answer
questions that we are trying to answer what would be that optimal combinations
what would be that optimal combinations
what would be that optimal combinations of renewable energy we can implement in
of renewable energy we can implement in
of renewable energy we can implement in different trees in different scenarios
the researchers one of them is right now
the researchers one of them is right now standing in front of you and it brings
standing in front of you and it brings
standing in front of you and it brings to the last things that I want to share
to the last things that I want to share
to the last things that I want to share why am I here if you realize the things
why am I here if you realize the things
why am I here if you realize the things the question the thought that I have
the question the thought that I have
the question the thought that I have been sharing a field in the past 15
been sharing a field in the past 15
been sharing a field in the past 15 minutes they are it is not something
minutes they are it is not something
minutes they are it is not something that you can see when sharing is a
that you can see when sharing is a
that you can see when sharing is a thought structure why I’m offering to
thought structure why I’m offering to
thought structure why I’m offering to you is an idea a structure a thinking
you is an idea a structure a thinking
you is an idea a structure a thinking logic most of the time if you go through
logic most of the time if you go through
logic most of the time if you go through a researchers who is working on modeling
a researchers who is working on modeling
a researchers who is working on modeling he or she won’t come to you and say hey
he or she won’t come to you and say hey
he or she won’t come to you and say hey this is my product however they do see
this is my product however they do see
this is my product however they do see the value of how they are working how
the value of how they are working how
the value of how they are working how their model is helping the policy makers
their model is helping the policy makers
their model is helping the policy makers the decisions makers to make more
the decisions makers to make more
the decisions makers to make more precise decisions when it comes to a
precise decisions when it comes to a
precise decisions when it comes to a very complex problem solving it doesn’t
very complex problem solving it doesn’t
very complex problem solving it doesn’t mean that they don’t appreciate
mean that they don’t appreciate
mean that they don’t appreciate something invention product
well of a scientific research the value
well of a scientific research the value of this scientific research should go to
of this scientific research should go to
of this scientific research should go to the society I have been in front and
the society I have been in front and
the society I have been in front and before I have been working on the ground
before I have been working on the ground
before I have been working on the ground well before I organize conference of ok
well before I organize conference of ok
well before I organize conference of ok the environmental sustainability raising
the environmental sustainability raising
the environmental sustainability raising awareness among the high school students
awareness among the high school students
awareness among the high school students I also go to the ground and contest the
I also go to the ground and contest the
I also go to the ground and contest the race to the rural community should
race to the rural community should
race to the rural community should science to society project as I abandon
science to society project as I abandon
science to society project as I abandon slurry such journey I thought that I’m
slurry such journey I thought that I’m
slurry such journey I thought that I’m getting more distance away from the
getting more distance away from the
getting more distance away from the reality something that’s when you do you
reality something that’s when you do you
reality something that’s when you do you see the impact directly that’s why today
see the impact directly that’s why today
see the impact directly that’s why today I decided to stand up here and speak to
I decided to stand up here and speak to
I decided to stand up here and speak to you how how the thought process that
you how how the thought process that
you how how the thought process that during the journey of research I’m here
during the journey of research I’m here
during the journey of research I’m here standing to share it with you and lastly
standing to share it with you and lastly
standing to share it with you and lastly I hope at least by the end of this talk
I hope at least by the end of this talk
I hope at least by the end of this talk if bring use it brings you three thought
if bring use it brings you three thought
if bring use it brings you three thought the first one what is the limit to
the first one what is the limit to
the first one what is the limit to growth
why development but not growth what is
why development but not growth what is the trade-off if we go hundred percent
the trade-off if we go hundred percent
the trade-off if we go hundred percent renewable thank you
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