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Do Engineers Really Need a Liberal Arts Education ? | Adham Moustafa | TEDxRITDubai


I’d like to discuss to you today a topic

I’d like to discuss to you today a topic that I frequently hear in the halls my

that I frequently hear in the halls my

that I frequently hear in the halls my university do engineers really need a

university do engineers really need a

university do engineers really need a liberal arts education often I find

liberal arts education often I find

liberal arts education often I find myself involved with many students who

myself involved with many students who

myself involved with many students who are struggling with certain subjects

are struggling with certain subjects

are struggling with certain subjects philosophy history languages and often

philosophy history languages and often

philosophy history languages and often these are students who have strong

these are students who have strong

these are students who have strong passion for science for engineering this

passion for science for engineering this

passion for science for engineering this anecdote plays a very strong role in my

anecdote plays a very strong role in my

anecdote plays a very strong role in my life

life

life often in common jargon we are put we put

often in common jargon we are put we put

often in common jargon we are put we put ourselves in different dichotomies this

ourselves in different dichotomies this

ourselves in different dichotomies this is a science person or artistic person

is a science person or artistic person

is a science person or artistic person and even within Sciences but we are

and even within Sciences but we are

and even within Sciences but we are either right-brained or left-brained and

either right-brained or left-brained and

either right-brained or left-brained and often in the conversation what is lost

often in the conversation what is lost

often in the conversation what is lost is how these two work together the right

is how these two work together the right

is how these two work together the right brain the left brain does not operate in

brain the left brain does not operate in

brain the left brain does not operate in a vacuum they operate with an exchange

a vacuum they operate with an exchange

a vacuum they operate with an exchange with one another and to help analyze the

with one another and to help analyze the

with one another and to help analyze the question why why do we need to have a

question why why do we need to have a

question why why do we need to have a liberal arts education as engineers as

liberal arts education as engineers as

liberal arts education as engineers as scientists

scientists

scientists I’ll tell you my story I was born in the

I’ll tell you my story I was born in the

I’ll tell you my story I was born in the United States to Syrian students who

United States to Syrian students who

United States to Syrian students who came from a very different cultural

came from a very different cultural

came from a very different cultural background to help explore their own

background to help explore their own

background to help explore their own horizons to experience new things to

horizons to experience new things to

horizons to experience new things to learn to hear other stories to share

learn to hear other stories to share

learn to hear other stories to share their own story and this was a tenant of

their own story and this was a tenant of

their own story and this was a tenant of my life that continued with me spending

my life that continued with me spending

my life that continued with me spending half of my childhood there he moved to

half of my childhood there he moved to

half of my childhood there he moved to Dubai because my parents wanted to offer

Dubai because my parents wanted to offer

Dubai because my parents wanted to offer me and my older sister a new attentive

me and my older sister a new attentive

me and my older sister a new attentive experienced new way of learning about

experienced new way of learning about

experienced new way of learning about the worlds I learned Arabic by living

the worlds I learned Arabic by living

the worlds I learned Arabic by living here I learned about different cultures

here I learned about different cultures

here I learned about different cultures Dubai’s a beautifully diverse city but I

Dubai’s a beautifully diverse city but I

Dubai’s a beautifully diverse city but I also learned a lot about myself going

also learned a lot about myself going

also learned a lot about myself going through through middle school and high

through through middle school and high

through through middle school and high school I loved what I was studying I

school I loved what I was studying I

school I loved what I was studying I loved all of what I was studying math

loved all of what I was studying math

loved all of what I was studying math and history philosophy and language

and history philosophy and language

and history philosophy and language science biology chemistry physics and I

science biology chemistry physics and I

science biology chemistry physics and I decided I needed something else I needed

decided I needed something else I needed

decided I needed something else I needed something new I need something to

something new I need something to

something new I need something to challenge me more

challenge me more

challenge me more and so I decided to apply and I got

and so I decided to apply and I got

and so I decided to apply and I got accepted to Phillips Academy in Andover

accepted to Phillips Academy in Andover

accepted to Phillips Academy in Andover Massachusetts my school the oldest

Massachusetts my school the oldest

Massachusetts my school the oldest private school in United States was a

private school in United States was a

private school in United States was a great place for me to row as an

great place for me to row as an

great place for me to row as an individual for me to experience a truly

individual for me to experience a truly

individual for me to experience a truly liberal arts curriculum I was a kid in

liberal arts curriculum I was a kid in

liberal arts curriculum I was a kid in the candy store there were so many

the candy store there were so many

the candy store there were so many things I wanted to enroll in there were

things I wanted to enroll in there were

things I wanted to enroll in there were so many classes I wanted to take but too

so many classes I wanted to take but too

so many classes I wanted to take but too little time there were so many clubs I

little time there were so many clubs I

little time there were so many clubs I wanted to join but again I had so many

wanted to join but again I had so many

wanted to join but again I had so many limitations because of that I was part

limitations because of that I was part

limitations because of that I was part of the phylum a themed society the

of the phylum a themed society the

of the phylum a themed society the oldest debate Club in the United States

oldest debate Club in the United States

oldest debate Club in the United States but I was also a part of the science

but I was also a part of the science

but I was also a part of the science club I was active in Model UN and

club I was active in Model UN and

club I was active in Model UN and student government but I was also really

student government but I was also really

student government but I was also really interested in the motor sports club and

interested in the motor sports club and

interested in the motor sports club and this way of thinking this way of how I

this way of thinking this way of how I

this way of thinking this way of how I interacted with my community and with my

interacted with my community and with my

interacted with my community and with my intellectual pursuits continued to the

intellectual pursuits continued to the

intellectual pursuits continued to the point where people asked me who are you

point where people asked me who are you

point where people asked me who are you who are you this question was was so

who are you this question was was so

who are you this question was was so important to me that I and over we had a

important to me that I and over we had a

important to me that I and over we had a beautiful excuse me we had a beautiful

beautiful excuse me we had a beautiful

beautiful excuse me we had a beautiful dining hall it had four identical halls

dining hall it had four identical halls

dining hall it had four identical halls but each had a totally different

but each had a totally different

but each had a totally different personality because of those who sat in

personality because of those who sat in

personality because of those who sat in each home

each home

each home we had the lower-left who had all the

we had the lower-left who had all the

we had the lower-left who had all the creative geeks you had you know the

creative geeks you had you know the

creative geeks you had you know the drama theater and drama theater people

drama theater and drama theater people

drama theater and drama theater people and you had lower-right who had all of

and you had lower-right who had all of

and you had lower-right who had all of the athletes and jocks and popular

the athletes and jocks and popular

the athletes and jocks and popular people you had upper-left where the

people you had upper-left where the

people you had upper-left where the faculty set and the teachers pets and

faculty set and the teachers pets and

faculty set and the teachers pets and the Nerds and you had the upper right

the Nerds and you had the upper right

the Nerds and you had the upper right where you had all the lower classmen

where you had all the lower classmen

where you had all the lower classmen honestly I never found myself sitting in

honestly I never found myself sitting in

honestly I never found myself sitting in the same dining hall twice in a row I

the same dining hall twice in a row I

the same dining hall twice in a row I always changed the the hall I chose to

always changed the the hall I chose to

always changed the the hall I chose to dine in I always changed the people i

dine in I always changed the people i

dine in I always changed the people i sat with the people who I chose to

sat with the people who I chose to

sat with the people who I chose to associate with to hear their stories and

associate with to hear their stories and

associate with to hear their stories and share my story because learning is not

share my story because learning is not

share my story because learning is not only in the classroom this sense of

only in the classroom this sense of

only in the classroom this sense of identity this question that was that

identity this question that was that

identity this question that was that came to me Who am I continued through my

came to me Who am I continued through my

came to me Who am I continued through my college admissions process I didn’t know

college admissions process I didn’t know

college admissions process I didn’t know if I wanted to go into the sciences

if I wanted to go into the sciences

if I wanted to go into the sciences or into the humanities and this is a

or into the humanities and this is a

or into the humanities and this is a question that I decided to go through

question that I decided to go through

question that I decided to go through for the Humanities I decided to go to at

for the Humanities I decided to go to at

for the Humanities I decided to go to at the American University in Washington DC

the American University in Washington DC

the American University in Washington DC I decided to go for diplomacy this is

I decided to go for diplomacy this is

I decided to go for diplomacy this is the beautiful College the School of

the beautiful College the School of

the beautiful College the School of International Service it’s fantastic and

International Service it’s fantastic and

International Service it’s fantastic and I loved being there I studied there for

I loved being there I studied there for

I loved being there I studied there for year-and-a-half we studied history and

year-and-a-half we studied history and

year-and-a-half we studied history and philosophy languages so many important

philosophy languages so many important

philosophy languages so many important things to know to be able to analyze the

things to know to be able to analyze the

things to know to be able to analyze the world and understand ourselves more

world and understand ourselves more

world and understand ourselves more deeply but funnily enough I found myself

deeply but funnily enough I found myself

deeply but funnily enough I found myself limited I found myself limited within

limited I found myself limited within

limited I found myself limited within the humanities which is often cited as

the humanities which is often cited as

the humanities which is often cited as the gray area while science is the black

the gray area while science is the black

the gray area while science is the black and the white and the correct and the

and the white and the correct and the

and the white and the correct and the incorrect one or zero but I found myself

incorrect one or zero but I found myself

incorrect one or zero but I found myself limited in the humanities I had some

limited in the humanities I had some

limited in the humanities I had some hunger for in craving for science for

hunger for in craving for science for

hunger for in craving for science for physics to understand how things work

physics to understand how things work

physics to understand how things work not why things work how they work so I

not why things work how they work so I

not why things work how they work so I shifted my orientation to studying

shifted my orientation to studying

shifted my orientation to studying engineering and this is where I am today

engineering and this is where I am today

engineering and this is where I am today I have no regrets I absolutely love

I have no regrets I absolutely love

I have no regrets I absolutely love studying engineering but I also spend a

studying engineering but I also spend a

studying engineering but I also spend a lot of my time reading and learning

lot of my time reading and learning

lot of my time reading and learning about how we as a society operate on the

about how we as a society operate on the

about how we as a society operate on the human level and I realized that it

human level and I realized that it

human level and I realized that it wasn’t always this way education was not

wasn’t always this way education was not

wasn’t always this way education was not always about this or that it was about

always about this or that it was about

always about this or that it was about it was about both an end historically to

it was about both an end historically to

it was about both an end historically to be considered an educated person a

be considered an educated person a

be considered an educated person a learned person you have to have a lot of

learned person you have to have a lot of

learned person you have to have a lot of knowledge about a lot of subjects today

knowledge about a lot of subjects today

knowledge about a lot of subjects today many people have a lot of knowledge

many people have a lot of knowledge

many people have a lot of knowledge about a very small number of subjects on

about a very small number of subjects on

about a very small number of subjects on the far right um far left for you

the far right um far left for you

the far right um far left for you we have Leonardo da Vinci he pioneered

we have Leonardo da Vinci he pioneered

we have Leonardo da Vinci he pioneered so many different subjects including art

so many different subjects including art

so many different subjects including art and philosophy engineering math he was a

and philosophy engineering math he was a

and philosophy engineering math he was a Renaissance man someone who was a

Renaissance man someone who was a

Renaissance man someone who was a jack-of-all-trades who knew so much

jack-of-all-trades who knew so much

jack-of-all-trades who knew so much about so many things in life and it was

about so many things in life and it was

about so many things in life and it was so curious we have Thomas Jefferson

so curious we have Thomas Jefferson

so curious we have Thomas Jefferson Enlightenment thinker one of the

Enlightenment thinker one of the

Enlightenment thinker one of the America’s statesmen one of the first

America’s statesmen one of the first

America’s statesmen one of the first presidents of the United States and

presidents of the United States and

presidents of the United States and that’s often how how what he is

that’s often how how what he is

that’s often how how what he is remembered for he was also an architect

remembered for he was also an architect

remembered for he was also an architect a surveyor a lawyer a philosopher

a surveyor a lawyer a philosopher

a surveyor a lawyer a philosopher a musician he was the first secretary of

a musician he was the first secretary of

a musician he was the first secretary of states of the United States of America

states of the United States of America

states of the United States of America and a testament to that was that in his

and a testament to that was that in his

and a testament to that was that in his later years they learned that he was

later years they learned that he was

later years they learned that he was studying Arabic Arabic in the years 1778

studying Arabic Arabic in the years 1778

studying Arabic Arabic in the years 1778 America was the first country to

America was the first country to

America was the first country to recognize the United States of America

recognize the United States of America

recognize the United States of America and he realized it was important to be

and he realized it was important to be

and he realized it was important to be able to understand the other tongue to

able to understand the other tongue to

able to understand the other tongue to the other sense of language in order to

the other sense of language in order to

the other sense of language in order to be a more human leader and finally we

be a more human leader and finally we

be a more human leader and finally we have John Jacques Rousseau a central

have John Jacques Rousseau a central

have John Jacques Rousseau a central figure in the French Revolution he too

figure in the French Revolution he too

figure in the French Revolution he too was a composer not just a philosopher so

was a composer not just a philosopher so

was a composer not just a philosopher so you get the trend people who were

you get the trend people who were

you get the trend people who were educated used to be passionate about so

educated used to be passionate about so

educated used to be passionate about so many things and used to to be considered

many things and used to to be considered

many things and used to to be considered an intellectual person you had to have a

an intellectual person you had to have a

an intellectual person you had to have a scope that was wide an eclectic so when

scope that was wide an eclectic so when

scope that was wide an eclectic so when did this occur when did this sense of

did this occur when did this sense of

did this occur when did this sense of pigeonholing an individual to one or the

pigeonholing an individual to one or the

pigeonholing an individual to one or the other

other

other begin well it starts in the Industrial

begin well it starts in the Industrial

begin well it starts in the Industrial Revolution of Europe for the sake of

Revolution of Europe for the sake of

Revolution of Europe for the sake of optimization and this vast and rapid

optimization and this vast and rapid

optimization and this vast and rapid social change is occurring in Europe

social change is occurring in Europe

social change is occurring in Europe socially technologically and nationally

socially technologically and nationally

socially technologically and nationally that people decided that they would have

that people decided that they would have

that people decided that they would have to choose their education for their

to choose their education for their

to choose their education for their career that was it was there was a

career that was it was there was a

career that was it was there was a commercial value to education as opposed

commercial value to education as opposed

commercial value to education as opposed to having an intellectual and personal

to having an intellectual and personal

to having an intellectual and personal drive to learn to experience this is

drive to learn to experience this is

drive to learn to experience this is when this period the nineteenth century

when this period the nineteenth century

when this period the nineteenth century is when the engineering departments and

is when the engineering departments and

is when the engineering departments and faculties around the world started

faculties around the world started

faculties around the world started springing up

springing up

springing up you had MIT established in this century

you had MIT established in this century

you had MIT established in this century for example but there this sense of

for example but there this sense of

for example but there this sense of specialization we’ve lost a lot of what

specialization we’ve lost a lot of what

specialization we’ve lost a lot of what makes us human

makes us human

makes us human [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] and at the individual level you had

and at the individual level you had

and at the individual level you had people who are striving for nature to go

people who are striving for nature to go

people who are striving for nature to go back to our roots

back to our roots

back to our roots this is testament to the Romantic period

this is testament to the Romantic period

this is testament to the Romantic period which is the artistic and literary

which is the artistic and literary

which is the artistic and literary period that overlapped with the

period that overlapped with the

period that overlapped with the Industrial Revolution so a great it’s a

Industrial Revolution so a great it’s a

Industrial Revolution so a great it’s a perfect case study of this you know

perfect case study of this you know

perfect case study of this you know often often difficult question of are we

often often difficult question of are we

often often difficult question of are we machine or man are we supposed to do

machine or man are we supposed to do

machine or man are we supposed to do things thinking of industrialization

things thinking of industrialization

things thinking of industrialization first or are we supposed to think of

first or are we supposed to think of

first or are we supposed to think of what makes us human first New York City

what makes us human first New York City

what makes us human first New York City is one of the most dynamic cities on the

is one of the most dynamic cities on the

is one of the most dynamic cities on the planet and they have this beautiful Park

planet and they have this beautiful Park

planet and they have this beautiful Park Central Park very famous but to the city

Central Park very famous but to the city

Central Park very famous but to the city officials who were against using this

officials who were against using this

officials who were against using this prime real estate for a public park that

prime real estate for a public park that

prime real estate for a public park that was a daunting task eventually they

was a daunting task eventually they

was a daunting task eventually they decided that they must use this this

decided that they must use this this

decided that they must use this this prime real estate space for the good of

prime real estate space for the good of

prime real estate space for the good of the public to make a public park and the

the public to make a public park and the

the public to make a public park and the person may chose to do it Fred Law

person may chose to do it Fred Law

person may chose to do it Fred Law Olmsted believed that the park must be a

Olmsted believed that the park must be a

Olmsted believed that the park must be a public must be a public good for all

public must be a public good for all

public must be a public good for all individuals all people who were part of

individuals all people who were part of

individuals all people who were part of the city to use and enjoy and while he

the city to use and enjoy and while he

the city to use and enjoy and while he was an architect by profession he was a

was an architect by profession he was a

was an architect by profession he was a social activist by passion after they

social activist by passion after they

social activist by passion after they decided to make the park and after they

decided to make the park and after they

decided to make the park and after they you know they grew all the trees and

you know they grew all the trees and

you know they grew all the trees and then they set up the park he spent his

then they set up the park he spent his

then they set up the park he spent his life tirelessly being an advocate to

life tirelessly being an advocate to

life tirelessly being an advocate to keep the park public to keep the park

keep the park public to keep the park

keep the park public to keep the park accessible to all so while an architect

accessible to all so while an architect

accessible to all so while an architect he was also a social activist so today

he was also a social activist so today

he was also a social activist so today how does this relate to our world today

how does this relate to our world today

how does this relate to our world today often in our engineering instruction

often in our engineering instruction

often in our engineering instruction you’re we’re taught to consider three

you’re we’re taught to consider three

you’re we’re taught to consider three major pillars when trying to attempt to

major pillars when trying to attempt to

major pillars when trying to attempt to answer a question to solve a problem to

answer a question to solve a problem to

answer a question to solve a problem to give an answer the first one is how can

give an answer the first one is how can

give an answer the first one is how can he make the design efficient how could

he make the design efficient how could

he make the design efficient how could he make the design efficient

he make the design efficient

he make the design efficient now the second one is how can you make

now the second one is how can you make

now the second one is how can you make it affordable how can you make it

it affordable how can you make it

it affordable how can you make it economically feasible how can you make

economically feasible how can you make

economically feasible how can you make it a cadet economically accessible and

it a cadet economically accessible and

it a cadet economically accessible and third the most recent addition to this

third the most recent addition to this

third the most recent addition to this structure of of problem solving for an

structure of of problem solving for an

structure of of problem solving for an engineering perspective is how can you

engineering perspective is how can you

engineering perspective is how can you make it sustainable how can you make it

make it sustainable how can you make it

make it sustainable how can you make it sustainable so I want all of us to

sustainable so I want all of us to

sustainable so I want all of us to participate in the following so I hope

participate in the following so I hope

participate in the following so I hope you guys are ready imagine we are tasked

you guys are ready imagine we are tasked

you guys are ready imagine we are tasked with making a public park in a city we

with making a public park in a city we

with making a public park in a city we love for example Dubai Mumbai

love for example Dubai Mumbai

love for example Dubai Mumbai Damascus Syria anywhere that comes to

Damascus Syria anywhere that comes to

Damascus Syria anywhere that comes to mind anywhere often the engineer will

mind anywhere often the engineer will

mind anywhere often the engineer will ask what questions what questions come

ask what questions what questions come

ask what questions what questions come to mind does anyone have anything how

to mind does anyone have anything how

to mind does anyone have anything how big is the park any other questions that

big is the park any other questions that

big is the park any other questions that an engineer would quickly ask first or

an engineer would quickly ask first or

an engineer would quickly ask first or consider is land readily available how

consider is land readily available how

consider is land readily available how much that’s a very good point

much that’s a very good point

much that’s a very good point absolutely often engineers also consider

absolutely often engineers also consider

absolutely often engineers also consider hmm

hmm

hmm how can you make the water system

how can you make the water system

how can you make the water system efficient how can you make the

efficient how can you make the

efficient how can you make the maintenance affordable and how can we

maintenance affordable and how can we

maintenance affordable and how can we make the carbon footprints of this

make the carbon footprints of this

make the carbon footprints of this endeavor minimal but there are so many

endeavor minimal but there are so many

endeavor minimal but there are so many questions that come to mind that

questions that come to mind that

questions that come to mind that engineers often overlook or are often

engineers often overlook or are often

engineers often overlook or are often not given the tools to assess who is the

not given the tools to assess who is the

not given the tools to assess who is the park mentor is it going to be in the

park mentor is it going to be in the

park mentor is it going to be in the very wealthy part of the town or is it

very wealthy part of the town or is it

very wealthy part of the town or is it going to be accessible for the working

going to be accessible for the working

going to be accessible for the working class another question that is often

class another question that is often

class another question that is often ignored is who is designed with who is

ignored is who is designed with who is

ignored is who is designed with who is tasked with designing this park is it

tasked with designing this park is it

tasked with designing this park is it going to be the local community is it

going to be the local community is it

going to be the local community is it going to be a decision made by the

going to be a decision made by the

going to be a decision made by the people of that city who will enjoy that

people of that city who will enjoy that

people of that city who will enjoy that park or is it going to be a top-down

park or is it going to be a top-down

park or is it going to be a top-down sense of an international firm will be

sense of an international firm will be

sense of an international firm will be hired and they’ll design the park and

hired and they’ll design the park and

hired and they’ll design the park and that’s what you’ll get is it going to be

that’s what you’ll get is it going to be

that’s what you’ll get is it going to be is it going to be maintained by

is it going to be maintained by

is it going to be maintained by mom-and-pops gardening company or is it

mom-and-pops gardening company or is it

mom-and-pops gardening company or is it going to be run by an international

going to be run by an international

going to be run by an international conglomerate these are just a scenario

conglomerate these are just a scenario

conglomerate these are just a scenario scope of how many questions arise with

scope of how many questions arise with

scope of how many questions arise with what seems to be a very wonderful task

what seems to be a very wonderful task

what seems to be a very wonderful task everyone loves the park everyone loves

everyone loves the park everyone loves

everyone loves the park everyone loves to be able to be part of nature within

to be able to be part of nature within

to be able to be part of nature within the city so alt

the city so alt

the city so alt my take-home message is this how can we

my take-home message is this how can we

my take-home message is this how can we humanize engineering how can we follow

humanize engineering how can we follow

humanize engineering how can we follow our obligation and our responsibility as

our obligation and our responsibility as

our obligation and our responsibility as engineers to be able to assess a very

engineers to be able to assess a very

engineers to be able to assess a very wide variety of implications that our

wide variety of implications that our

wide variety of implications that our decisions have we have a lot a huge

decisions have we have a lot a huge

decisions have we have a lot a huge responsibility on our shoulders

responsibility on our shoulders

responsibility on our shoulders decisions we make have far-reaching

decisions we make have far-reaching

decisions we make have far-reaching consequences and in order to be able to

consequences and in order to be able to

consequences and in order to be able to better understand the community we’re

better understand the community we’re

better understand the community we’re supposed to serve we have to have a

supposed to serve we have to have a

supposed to serve we have to have a strong liberal arts education foundation

strong liberal arts education foundation

strong liberal arts education foundation we must be able to you know take that

we must be able to you know take that

we must be able to you know take that French class in high school and even if

French class in high school and even if

French class in high school and even if we fail it we have to be able to

we fail it we have to be able to

we fail it we have to be able to understand the way the certain language

understand the way the certain language

understand the way the certain language works we have to understand that to take

works we have to understand that to take

works we have to understand that to take a philosophy class has far-reaching

a philosophy class has far-reaching

a philosophy class has far-reaching implications to understand the history

implications to understand the history

implications to understand the history of a place that the history of a people

of a place that the history of a people

of a place that the history of a people is important to understand how we can

is important to understand how we can

is important to understand how we can solve problems and how we can solve

solve problems and how we can solve

solve problems and how we can solve problems that make a difference to all

problems that make a difference to all

problems that make a difference to all of us so I finally like to leave you on

of us so I finally like to leave you on

of us so I finally like to leave you on this image science can help us build a

this image science can help us build a

this image science can help us build a robot companion and the humanities can

robot companion and the humanities can

robot companion and the humanities can help us understand why that’s not a very

help us understand why that’s not a very

help us understand why that’s not a very good idea

good idea

good idea in other words science helps us

in other words science helps us

in other words science helps us understand how our world works

understand how our world works

understand how our world works while humanities empowers us to improve

while humanities empowers us to improve

while humanities empowers us to improve it and finally thank you thank you all

it and finally thank you thank you all

it and finally thank you thank you all for taking the time on on a Saturday to

for taking the time on on a Saturday to

for taking the time on on a Saturday to be here to listen to different

be here to listen to different

be here to listen to different perspectives to help be an active

perspectives to help be an active

perspectives to help be an active participant in the community and to be

participant in the community and to be

participant in the community and to be able to take a little bit of what all of

able to take a little bit of what all of

able to take a little bit of what all of our experiences are and consider it for

our experiences are and consider it for

our experiences are and consider it for when you make your own decisions in

when you make your own decisions in

when you make your own decisions in their life be it engineering or

their life be it engineering or

their life be it engineering or otherwise so thank you

otherwise so thank you

otherwise so thank you [Applause]

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