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pretty much everyone donates to charity

pretty much everyone donates to charity okay if there are a couple more people

okay if there are a couple more people

okay if there are a couple more people in here about 12,000 pounds a year or 60

in here about 12,000 pounds a year or 60

in here about 12,000 pounds a year or 60 quid a head now would you mind closing

quid a head now would you mind closing

quid a head now would you mind closing your eyes for me promise not to do

your eyes for me promise not to do

your eyes for me promise not to do anything weird with your personal

anything weird with your personal

anything weird with your personal belongings because you’re too far from

belongings because you’re too far from

belongings because you’re too far from the stage right with your eyes closed

the stage right with your eyes closed

the stage right with your eyes closed think about a charity any charity okay

think about a charity any charity okay

think about a charity any charity okay open your eyes

open your eyes

open your eyes good so hands up who saw a logo or a

good so hands up who saw a logo or a

good so hands up who saw a logo or a mark with a panda on it oh yeah I can’t

mark with a panda on it oh yeah I can’t

mark with a panda on it oh yeah I can’t see okay uh Wibbly green jellyfish thing

see okay uh Wibbly green jellyfish thing

see okay uh Wibbly green jellyfish thing none Wibbly drawing the heart one okay

none Wibbly drawing the heart one okay

none Wibbly drawing the heart one okay Red Cross there we go good daffodil

Red Cross there we go good daffodil

Red Cross there we go good daffodil okay donkey

okay donkey

okay donkey okay well look for the curious amongst

okay well look for the curious amongst

okay well look for the curious amongst you that little lot billion pounds in

you that little lot billion pounds in

you that little lot billion pounds in turnover five six you’ve included donkey

turnover five six you’ve included donkey

turnover five six you’ve included donkey charity anyway they have high street

charity anyway they have high street

charity anyway they have high street presences they take out TV ads they have

presences they take out TV ads they have

presences they take out TV ads they have mobile apps they do big experiential

mobile apps they do big experiential

mobile apps they do big experiential things they’re about as omnipresent as a

things they’re about as omnipresent as a

things they’re about as omnipresent as a brand can be and we’re pretty good at

brand can be and we’re pretty good at

brand can be and we’re pretty good at brand recognition is kind of baked into

brand recognition is kind of baked into

brand recognition is kind of baked into it so that’s when a logo or strap line

it so that’s when a logo or strap line

it so that’s when a logo or strap line or event or campaign help us recall a

or event or campaign help us recall a

or event or campaign help us recall a product or service they have it sewn up

product or service they have it sewn up

product or service they have it sewn up they have budgets what I want to dig in

they have budgets what I want to dig in

they have budgets what I want to dig in today are the small ones more often than

today are the small ones more often than

today are the small ones more often than not this is sort of the 50,000 a year

not this is sort of the 50,000 a year

not this is sort of the 50,000 a year and below and there are a lot of them

and below and there are a lot of them

and below and there are a lot of them out there a lot 119 thousand four

out there a lot 119 thousand four

out there a lot 119 thousand four hundred and seventy six of them out of

hundred and seventy six of them out of

hundred and seventy six of them out of something like a hundred and eighty

something like a hundred and eighty

something like a hundred and eighty thousand charities they need your help

thousand charities they need your help

thousand charities they need your help not just your money or your time and

not just your money or your time and

not just your money or your time and possibly your skills too and that’s

possibly your skills too and that’s

possibly your skills too and that’s where pro bono rears its sort of

where pro bono rears its sort of

where pro bono rears its sort of misunderstood head and these are the

misunderstood head and these are the

misunderstood head and these are the ones that run clubs and support

ones that run clubs and support

ones that run clubs and support facilities and groups and sometimes

facilities and groups and sometimes

facilities and groups and sometimes provides a critical on-the-ground

provides a critical on-the-ground

provides a critical on-the-ground services that support maybe local

services that support maybe local

services that support maybe local authorities when they disappear there

authorities when they disappear there

authorities when they disappear there isn’t a great big song and dance but on

isn’t a great big song and dance but on

isn’t a great big song and dance but on the ground there is a massive impact but

the ground there is a massive impact but

the ground there is a massive impact but you wouldn’t notice it from where you’re

you wouldn’t notice it from where you’re

you wouldn’t notice it from where you’re set with the people that feel it to

set with the people that feel it to

set with the people that feel it to school community usually without those

school community usually without those

school community usually without those hundred and twenty or thousand the world

hundred and twenty or thousand the world

hundred and twenty or thousand the world would be a far less than Evelyn place

would be a far less than Evelyn place

would be a far less than Evelyn place imagine what would happen with those

imagine what would happen with those

imagine what would happen with those thousands of organizations if we

thousands of organizations if we

thousands of organizations if we introduced the time and skills of

introduced the time and skills of

introduced the time and skills of designers that’s Big D design that’s

designers that’s Big D design that’s

designers that’s Big D design that’s graphic design illustration web design

graphic design illustration web design

graphic design illustration web design service design product design design

service design product design design

service design product design design illustration whatever you might be

illustration whatever you might be

illustration whatever you might be whatever nom de plume they’ve chosen for

whatever nom de plume they’ve chosen for

whatever nom de plume they’ve chosen for themselves this week and hands up again

themselves this week and hands up again

themselves this week and hands up again sorry it’s give me a couple of these

sorry it’s give me a couple of these

sorry it’s give me a couple of these anyone a designer or think that one

anyone a designer or think that one

anyone a designer or think that one point or another they may have been a

point or another they may have been a

point or another they may have been a designer or knows a designer yeah okay

designer or knows a designer yeah okay

designer or knows a designer yeah okay great well look at a very high level we

great well look at a very high level we

great well look at a very high level we are in the business of visual

are in the business of visual

are in the business of visual communication and problem solving well

communication and problem solving well

communication and problem solving well that’s what I like to think of we do on

that’s what I like to think of we do on

that’s what I like to think of we do on the whole we’re it was it who is a

the whole we’re it was it who is a

the whole we’re it was it who is a designer right we’re pretty empathetic

designer right we’re pretty empathetic

designer right we’re pretty empathetic aren’t we yeah great and as such working

aren’t we yeah great and as such working

aren’t we yeah great and as such working pro bono should be a sort of remarkable

pro bono should be a sort of remarkable

pro bono should be a sort of remarkable experience for everyone concerned can be

experience for everyone concerned can be

experience for everyone concerned can be should be and it must be I’m sure most

should be and it must be I’m sure most

should be and it must be I’m sure most of you heard the term before pro bono

of you heard the term before pro bono

of you heard the term before pro bono publico for the public good it’s

publico for the public good it’s

publico for the public good it’s professional work undertaken for free so

professional work undertaken for free so

professional work undertaken for free so no charge and it’s well known and

no charge and it’s well known and

no charge and it’s well known and practiced in the legal profession if you

practiced in the legal profession if you

practiced in the legal profession if you are interested not just the designers

are interested not just the designers

are interested not just the designers but everyone go to the Law Society

but everyone go to the Law Society

but everyone go to the Law Society website and they have these fantastic

website and they have these fantastic

website and they have these fantastic resources really fantastic resources now

resources really fantastic resources now

resources really fantastic resources now most designers most designers a modest

most designers most designers a modest

most designers most designers a modest enough to sort of recognize their

enough to sort of recognize their

enough to sort of recognize their efforts maybe won’t have the same kind

efforts maybe won’t have the same kind

efforts maybe won’t have the same kind of impact as let’s say legal support but

of impact as let’s say legal support but

of impact as let’s say legal support but it’s worth considering what great design

it’s worth considering what great design

it’s worth considering what great design has the ability to achieve

has the ability to achieve

has the ability to achieve it can facilitate volunteering time

it can facilitate volunteering time

it can facilitate volunteering time donations fundraising it can raise

donations fundraising it can raise

donations fundraising it can raise awareness these are all critical things

awareness these are all critical things

awareness these are all critical things for organizations of any size and

for organizations of any size and

for organizations of any size and currently on the whole there are a bunch

currently on the whole there are a bunch

currently on the whole there are a bunch of reasons why this kind of isn’t

of reasons why this kind of isn’t

of reasons why this kind of isn’t happening creative industry so I’m going

happening creative industry so I’m going

happening creative industry so I’m going to point at creative industry more

to point at creative industry more

to point at creative industry more broadly because they’ve been dining out

broadly because they’ve been dining out

broadly because they’ve been dining out on pro bono for decades forever

on pro bono for decades forever

on pro bono for decades forever this is paying interns no money

this is paying interns no money

this is paying interns no money anyone interning somewhere this summer

anyone interning somewhere this summer

anyone interning somewhere this summer not necessarily creative agency yeah

not necessarily creative agency yeah

not necessarily creative agency yeah no ever three there we go

no ever three there we go

no ever three there we go okay basically it’s all the stuff that

okay basically it’s all the stuff that

okay basically it’s all the stuff that no one else wants to do and it’s for

no one else wants to do and it’s for

no one else wants to do and it’s for free and this works all the way up this

free and this works all the way up this

free and this works all the way up this sort of pattern works all the way up to

sort of pattern works all the way up to

sort of pattern works all the way up to seasoned professionals you know lured in

seasoned professionals you know lured in

seasoned professionals you know lured in on the promise that if you do this thing

on the promise that if you do this thing

on the promise that if you do this thing for us today there may be some money

for us today there may be some money

for us today there may be some money further down the line so you know if

further down the line so you know if

further down the line so you know if you’ve ever heard this term it’s a great

you’ve ever heard this term it’s a great

you’ve ever heard this term it’s a great opportunity it will be fantastic for

opportunity it will be fantastic for

opportunity it will be fantastic for your portfolio students take note and

your portfolio students take note and

your portfolio students take note and from its assets a weird damaging

from its assets a weird damaging

from its assets a weird damaging precedent when an entire industry says

precedent when an entire industry says

precedent when an entire industry says that this is OK you know why pay when

that this is OK you know why pay when

that this is OK you know why pay when there’s always someone there to do it

there’s always someone there to do it

there’s always someone there to do it for free and when it’s seen as

for free and when it’s seen as

for free and when it’s seen as sanctioned it does terrible things to

sanctioned it does terrible things to

sanctioned it does terrible things to the rest of the world and so we’ve got

the rest of the world and so we’ve got

the rest of the world and so we’ve got the terminology and comprehension of pro

the terminology and comprehension of pro

the terminology and comprehension of pro bono it’s completely bent out of shape

bono it’s completely bent out of shape

bono it’s completely bent out of shape you’ve got these two distinct versions

you’ve got these two distinct versions

you’ve got these two distinct versions on the one hand you’ve got the pure play

on the one hand you’ve got the pure play

on the one hand you’ve got the pure play for the public good on the other hand

for the public good on the other hand

for the public good on the other hand you’ve got this shyster deviant version

you’ve got this shyster deviant version

you’ve got this shyster deviant version which is working for business and

which is working for business and

which is working for business and working for free and gratifying someone

working for free and gratifying someone

working for free and gratifying someone else on a promise of great reward and

else on a promise of great reward and

else on a promise of great reward and let’s not kid ourselves this this

let’s not kid ourselves this this

let’s not kid ourselves this this version this bastard ID version of pro

version this bastard ID version of pro

version this bastard ID version of pro bono is unethical it’s wrong it’s a

bono is unethical it’s wrong it’s a

bono is unethical it’s wrong it’s a smear on what pro bono exists for so

smear on what pro bono exists for so

smear on what pro bono exists for so it’s caveat and this is a big one the

it’s caveat and this is a big one the

it’s caveat and this is a big one the organization’s being provided with pro

organization’s being provided with pro

organization’s being provided with pro bono knowingly or otherwise are

bono knowingly or otherwise are

bono knowingly or otherwise are complicit in the root

complicit in the root

complicit in the root so the Lloyds Bank digital index shows

so the Lloyds Bank digital index shows

so the Lloyds Bank digital index shows that something like 50% of charities

that something like 50% of charities

that something like 50% of charities lack digital skills 50% and over half

lack digital skills 50% and over half

lack digital skills 50% and over half believe that not having a website isn’t

believe that not having a website isn’t

believe that not having a website isn’t going to impact how they fundraise so

going to impact how they fundraise so

going to impact how they fundraise so from our little tiny cohort of 120,000

from our little tiny cohort of 120,000

from our little tiny cohort of 120,000 odd at 60,000 charities it’s also noted

odd at 60,000 charities it’s also noted

odd at 60,000 charities it’s also noted that the more digitally minded are able

that the more digitally minded are able

that the more digitally minded are able to fundraise up to 28% more effectively

to fundraise up to 28% more effectively

to fundraise up to 28% more effectively which is nuts sorry about the numbers so

which is nuts sorry about the numbers so

which is nuts sorry about the numbers so we don’t just provide the service we do

we don’t just provide the service we do

we don’t just provide the service we do the hand-holding in the education all

the hand-holding in the education all

the hand-holding in the education all the way through the production process

the way through the production process

the way through the production process you know they’re not just set the drift

you know they’re not just set the drift

you know they’re not just set the drift with a shiny thing that we created then

with a shiny thing that we created then

with a shiny thing that we created then remember to Philip green is he still a

remember to Philip green is he still a

remember to Philip green is he still a sir yeah anyway so when he was pressed

sir yeah anyway so when he was pressed

sir yeah anyway so when he was pressed on whether it was sensible to sell a 90

on whether it was sensible to sell a 90

on whether it was sensible to sell a 90 year old business with tens of thousands

year old business with tens of thousands

year old business with tens of thousands of employees to a multiplet bankrupt

of employees to a multiplet bankrupt

of employees to a multiplet bankrupt chap who’s never run a business before

chap who’s never run a business before

chap who’s never run a business before you know certainly like a yachting

you know certainly like a yachting

you know certainly like a yachting business that’s kind of thing isn’t it

business that’s kind of thing isn’t it

business that’s kind of thing isn’t it was it a sound business decision and his

was it a sound business decision and his

was it a sound business decision and his answer was if I give you my plane right

answer was if I give you my plane right

answer was if I give you my plane right and you tell me you’re a great driver

and you tell me you’re a great driver

and you tell me you’re a great driver and then you crash it into the first

and then you crash it into the first

and then you crash it into the first Mountain is that my fault yes yes and

Mountain is that my fault yes yes and

Mountain is that my fault yes yes and the thing is it’s not just you on this

the thing is it’s not just you on this

the thing is it’s not just you on this little plane BHS had 11,000 employees

little plane BHS had 11,000 employees

little plane BHS had 11,000 employees you just sorted on if I give you this

you just sorted on if I give you this

you just sorted on if I give you this website and you claim you understand how

website and you claim you understand how

website and you claim you understand how the internet works or how it works and

the internet works or how it works and

the internet works or how it works and you fail to maintain it and I go off my

you fail to maintain it and I go off my

you fail to maintain it and I go off my merry way is that my fault

there’s a supply of any kind of service

there’s a supply of any kind of service you need to be mindful to see that

you need to be mindful to see that

you need to be mindful to see that scenario may be taking place down the

scenario may be taking place down the

scenario may be taking place down the line and more often than not these fine

line and more often than not these fine

line and more often than not these fine wonderful people don’t have a full

wonderful people don’t have a full

wonderful people don’t have a full enough grasp of what it is we’re

enough grasp of what it is we’re

enough grasp of what it is we’re providing

providing

providing or how works under the hood every client

or how works under the hood every client

or how works under the hood every client has the potential to be challenging and

has the potential to be challenging and

has the potential to be challenging and I have over the years when I had longer

I have over the years when I had longer

I have over the years when I had longer hair

hair

hair so I’ve had to try and de idiot myself

so I’ve had to try and de idiot myself

so I’ve had to try and de idiot myself it’s very easy to be sort of

it’s very easy to be sort of

it’s very easy to be sort of condescending and supercilious and

condescending and supercilious and

condescending and supercilious and diagnose of people because the thing is

diagnose of people because the thing is

diagnose of people because the thing is mountain to everywhere and it’s not that

mountain to everywhere and it’s not that

mountain to everywhere and it’s not that hard to crash this sort of metaphorical

hard to crash this sort of metaphorical

hard to crash this sort of metaphorical plane if you’ve never flown one before

plane if you’ve never flown one before

plane if you’ve never flown one before so the work isn’t just the idea and

so the work isn’t just the idea and

so the work isn’t just the idea and production it’s the education and the

production it’s the education and the

production it’s the education and the wonderful thing about the beyond profit

wonderful thing about the beyond profit

wonderful thing about the beyond profit community is they’re quite good at

community is they’re quite good at

community is they’re quite good at sharing it’s still a bit but they’re

sharing it’s still a bit but they’re

sharing it’s still a bit but they’re pretty good at sharing and it’s not an

pretty good at sharing and it’s not an

pretty good at sharing and it’s not an outrageous notion to say if I give you

outrageous notion to say if I give you

outrageous notion to say if I give you this and some education you’re probably

this and some education you’re probably

this and some education you’re probably going to tell other people about it and

going to tell other people about it and

going to tell other people about it and the education as well this talk for

the education as well this talk for

the education as well this talk for instance it started in an email with a

instance it started in an email with a

instance it started in an email with a prospective client and they’ve been the

prospective client and they’ve been the

prospective client and they’ve been the victim of some pretty upsetting ly

victim of some pretty upsetting ly

victim of some pretty upsetting ly shoddy pro bono network and it fueled

shoddy pro bono network and it fueled

shoddy pro bono network and it fueled many conversations eventually it turned

many conversations eventually it turned

many conversations eventually it turned into a way way way way too long article

into a way way way way too long article

into a way way way way too long article that I popped on the internet and now

that I popped on the internet and now

that I popped on the internet and now the guts of it sit across everything my

the guts of it sit across everything my

the guts of it sit across everything my studio does day-to-day it’s the stuff

studio does day-to-day it’s the stuff

studio does day-to-day it’s the stuff that we avoid doings the stuff that

that we avoid doings the stuff that

that we avoid doings the stuff that we’re wary or and pro bono is this

we’re wary or and pro bono is this

we’re wary or and pro bono is this little conversation starter it’s not the

little conversation starter it’s not the

little conversation starter it’s not the full discussion the broader discussion

full discussion the broader discussion

full discussion the broader discussion is how do we teach how do we pass on

is how do we teach how do we pass on

is how do we teach how do we pass on specialist knowledge and from a digital

specialist knowledge and from a digital

specialist knowledge and from a digital perspective websites I’ve seen over the

perspective websites I’ve seen over the

perspective websites I’ve seen over the past few years that have suffered from

past few years that have suffered from

past few years that have suffered from sort of laksa data called Roberto have

sort of laksa data called Roberto have

sort of laksa data called Roberto have all launched satisfactorily under the

all launched satisfactorily under the

all launched satisfactorily under the hood you get into the guts of the thing

hood you get into the guts of the thing

hood you get into the guts of the thing they’re really leaky they’re not

they’re really leaky they’re not

they’re really leaky they’re not seaworthy and they’re unsupported when

seaworthy and they’re unsupported when

seaworthy and they’re unsupported when organizations are left in charge of them

organizations are left in charge of them

organizations are left in charge of them without so much of a clue as to what to

without so much of a clue as to what to

without so much of a clue as to what to do and they often sink under a thing

do and they often sink under a thing

do and they often sink under a thing called technical debt a really simple

called technical debt a really simple

called technical debt a really simple way of explaining technical debt is that

way of explaining technical debt is that

way of explaining technical debt is that by taking a shortcut today that will

by taking a shortcut today that will

by taking a shortcut today that will accumulate over time my desktop has two

accumulate over time my desktop has two

accumulate over time my desktop has two folders on it one is the last time

folders on it one is the last time

folders on it one is the last time okay and one is today who wants to see

okay and one is today who wants to see

okay and one is today who wants to see inside one of those folders okay that

inside one of those folders okay that

inside one of those folders okay that remember there’s another one of those in

remember there’s another one of those in

remember there’s another one of those in there not another one of these because

there not another one of these because

there not another one of these because that’s today but there are those in

that’s today but there are those in

that’s today but there are those in there and it’s going to take it I’m

there and it’s going to take it I’m

there and it’s going to take it I’m never going to fix it because I know

never going to fix it because I know

never going to fix it because I know that I’m busy and I have a life with all

that I’m busy and I have a life with all

that I’m busy and I have a life with all that kind of stuff

that kind of stuff

that kind of stuff and I want to do the housekeeping um so

and I want to do the housekeeping um so

and I want to do the housekeeping um so about 18 years ago as I said lots more

about 18 years ago as I said lots more

about 18 years ago as I said lots more hair I started designing stuff and I

hair I started designing stuff and I

hair I started designing stuff and I worked for anybody

worked for anybody

worked for anybody I loved designing still do but I was so

I loved designing still do but I was so

I loved designing still do but I was so passionate about it it was my it was the

passionate about it it was my it was the

passionate about it it was my it was the air I breathed it was I wanted to I was

air I breathed it was I wanted to I was

air I breathed it was I wanted to I was excited by everything design could offer

excited by everything design could offer

excited by everything design could offer the world and I worked all sorts of

the world and I worked all sorts of

the world and I worked all sorts of people I worked on swinging websites I

people I worked on swinging websites I

people I worked on swinging websites I worked on fast food brands and at some

worked on fast food brands and at some

worked on fast food brands and at some point I went no no no no no I can’t keep

point I went no no no no no I can’t keep

point I went no no no no no I can’t keep doing this this is not this is not what

doing this this is not this is not what

doing this this is not this is not what I set out on this journey to do um so I

I set out on this journey to do um so I

I set out on this journey to do um so I stopped doing that but it was still

stopped doing that but it was still

stopped doing that but it was still about the money and after a couple of

about the money and after a couple of

about the money and after a couple of years I kind of got a whiff after

years I kind of got a whiff after

years I kind of got a whiff after talking to people of what my true value

talking to people of what my true value

talking to people of what my true value might have been I got a bit greedy and I

might have been I got a bit greedy and I

might have been I got a bit greedy and I got frustrated with clients who couldn’t

got frustrated with clients who couldn’t

got frustrated with clients who couldn’t afford what I wanted and when I’ve asked

afford what I wanted and when I’ve asked

afford what I wanted and when I’ve asked freelancers and agencies all over the

freelancers and agencies all over the

freelancers and agencies all over the world if clients have enough money to do

world if clients have enough money to do

world if clients have enough money to do what they want to do the resounding

what they want to do the resounding

what they want to do the resounding answer isn’t oh now it’s either that

answer isn’t oh now it’s either that

answer isn’t oh now it’s either that we’re too expensive or that our clients

we’re too expensive or that our clients

we’re too expensive or that our clients don’t really have an understanding of

don’t really have an understanding of

don’t really have an understanding of what we do how we do it and what the

what we do how we do it and what the

what we do how we do it and what the value is now my wonderful brother-in-law

value is now my wonderful brother-in-law

value is now my wonderful brother-in-law is a engineer slash plumber I’ve only

is a engineer slash plumber I’ve only

is a engineer slash plumber I’ve only ever asked him to do me one favor and I

ever asked him to do me one favor and I

ever asked him to do me one favor and I bought a sink in a sail with some taps

bought a sink in a sail with some taps

bought a sink in a sail with some taps it’s nice anyway he came over we spent a

it’s nice anyway he came over we spent a

it’s nice anyway he came over we spent a couple of hours doing it I cooked lunch

couple of hours doing it I cooked lunch

couple of hours doing it I cooked lunch for both sides of the family and we had

for both sides of the family and we had

for both sides of the family and we had some wine and all that kind of stuff and

some wine and all that kind of stuff and

some wine and all that kind of stuff and it’s been awful ever since and it’s not

it’s been awful ever since and it’s not

it’s been awful ever since and it’s not his fault you know he’s super busy he

his fault you know he’s super busy he

his fault you know he’s super busy he works in one of the biggest hospitals in

works in one of the biggest hospitals in

works in one of the biggest hospitals in Southeast he works shifts so it’s

Southeast he works shifts so it’s

Southeast he works shifts so it’s painful painful painful for him to you

painful painful painful for him to you

painful painful painful for him to you know come away you know an hour

know come away you know an hour

know come away you know an hour of where he lives – where I live and sit

of where he lives – where I live and sit

of where he lives – where I live and sit and look at my plumbing it sounds a bit

and look at my plumbing it sounds a bit

and look at my plumbing it sounds a bit weird it’s a huge time-suck to deal with

weird it’s a huge time-suck to deal with

weird it’s a huge time-suck to deal with that so I had to go you know because I’m

that so I had to go you know because I’m

that so I had to go you know because I’m a plumber and a designer the leaking

a plumber and a designer the leaking

a plumber and a designer the leaking stopped the taps were rubbish but you

stopped the taps were rubbish but you

stopped the taps were rubbish but you know the leaking stopped and I just

know the leaking stopped and I just

know the leaking stopped and I just thought well this is great and then this

thought well this is great and then this

thought well this is great and then this happened

happened

happened yeah I mean I didn’t talk about it so

yeah I mean I didn’t talk about it so

yeah I mean I didn’t talk about it so the house nearly burned down and and I

the house nearly burned down and and I

the house nearly burned down and and I got someone in and that was great it

got someone in and that was great it

got someone in and that was great it didn’t cost that much but these are the

didn’t cost that much but these are the

didn’t cost that much but these are the kind of patterns we see day to day with

kind of patterns we see day to day with

kind of patterns we see day to day with lots of organisations and have limited

lots of organisations and have limited

lots of organisations and have limited budget have limited time and they have

budget have limited time and they have

budget have limited time and they have unlimited ambition huge ambition

unlimited ambition huge ambition

unlimited ambition huge ambition commonality across all sectors

commonality across all sectors

commonality across all sectors especially in the beyond profit space

especially in the beyond profit space

especially in the beyond profit space and every one of these organisations has

and every one of these organisations has

and every one of these organisations has made some kind of remarkable

made some kind of remarkable

made some kind of remarkable contribution to social good but anything

contribution to social good but anything

contribution to social good but anything you contribute needs to be well

you contribute needs to be well

you contribute needs to be well considered and robust designers have the

considered and robust designers have the

considered and robust designers have the ability to kind of create a much

ability to kind of create a much

ability to kind of create a much brighter future then wonder who this guy

brighter future then wonder who this guy

brighter future then wonder who this guy is

is

is please this is Philippe Starck right he

please this is Philippe Starck right he

please this is Philippe Starck right he makes kettles that burn you and lemon

makes kettles that burn you and lemon

makes kettles that burn you and lemon juices that fall over but he’s also done

juices that fall over but he’s also done

juices that fall over but he’s also done some amazing work so let’s not kick him

some amazing work so let’s not kick him

some amazing work so let’s not kick him too hard I’ve spent a lot of my speaking

too hard I’ve spent a lot of my speaking

too hard I’ve spent a lot of my speaking career digging a philippe starck but

career digging a philippe starck but

career digging a philippe starck but he’s made incredible wind turbines he’s

he’s made incredible wind turbines he’s

he’s made incredible wind turbines he’s worked on electric vehicles all of this

worked on electric vehicles all of this

worked on electric vehicles all of this fantastic stuff so you know that over

fantastic stuff so you know that over

fantastic stuff so you know that over there and then the fluffy nonsense over

there and then the fluffy nonsense over

there and then the fluffy nonsense over here and if you are going to do that

here and if you are going to do that

here and if you are going to do that fluffy stuff that doesn’t really work

fluffy stuff that doesn’t really work

fluffy stuff that doesn’t really work and you’re designing for yourself

and you’re designing for yourself

and you’re designing for yourself do it on your own time can’t serve it up

do it on your own time can’t serve it up

do it on your own time can’t serve it up pro bono

pro bono

pro bono you know only works if we’re willing to

you know only works if we’re willing to

you know only works if we’re willing to develop a relationship you know a few

develop a relationship you know a few

develop a relationship you know a few months in someone’s going to want

months in someone’s going to want

months in someone’s going to want something else you need to set

something else you need to set

something else you need to set expectations this is a challenge if

expectations this is a challenge if

expectations this is a challenge if you’re doing it in downtime because

you’re doing it in downtime because

you’re doing it in downtime because downtime disappears you know I’m not

downtime disappears you know I’m not

downtime disappears you know I’m not saying work together forever but set

saying work together forever but set

saying work together forever but set some kind of you know metric behind the

some kind of you know metric behind the

some kind of you know metric behind the relationship you know it’s so much

relationship you know it’s so much

relationship you know it’s so much better for everyone concerned if we open

better for everyone concerned if we open

better for everyone concerned if we open a

a

a pro-bono relationship candidly and

pro-bono relationship candidly and

pro-bono relationship candidly and openly with well articulated goals and

openly with well articulated goals and

openly with well articulated goals and outcomes the risk of it turning south is

outcomes the risk of it turning south is

outcomes the risk of it turning south is going to be massively reduced it’s a

going to be massively reduced it’s a

going to be massively reduced it’s a nice opportunity for you to do your sort

nice opportunity for you to do your sort

nice opportunity for you to do your sort of philanthropic thing which is great

of philanthropic thing which is great

of philanthropic thing which is great beautiful a woman snuggly in your meaty

beautiful a woman snuggly in your meaty

beautiful a woman snuggly in your meaty bits and it’s really important not to

bits and it’s really important not to

bits and it’s really important not to turn this into your magic sandbox this

turn this into your magic sandbox this

turn this into your magic sandbox this is not where you explore all of the

is not where you explore all of the

is not where you explore all of the shiny things you’ve always wanted to do

shiny things you’ve always wanted to do

shiny things you’ve always wanted to do do not break things and move fast you

do not break things and move fast you

do not break things and move fast you can’t do that can’t you have to consider

can’t do that can’t you have to consider

can’t do that can’t you have to consider the outcomes if you don’t disaster it’s

the outcomes if you don’t disaster it’s

the outcomes if you don’t disaster it’s bad enough when you see this with full

bad enough when you see this with full

bad enough when you see this with full profits you know that’s that’s upsetting

profits you know that’s that’s upsetting

profits you know that’s that’s upsetting when you see it happening to an

when you see it happening to an

when you see it happening to an organization that helps kids avoid

organization that helps kids avoid

organization that helps kids avoid getting HIV in sub-saharan Africa it

getting HIV in sub-saharan Africa it

getting HIV in sub-saharan Africa it breaks your heart you know this is money

breaks your heart you know this is money

breaks your heart you know this is money taken away from helping people and it

taken away from helping people and it

taken away from helping people and it makes me very very angry now the thing

makes me very very angry now the thing

makes me very very angry now the thing is sorting out the website is usually

is sorting out the website is usually

is sorting out the website is usually bottom of the list it’s not they’re very

bottom of the list it’s not they’re very

bottom of the list it’s not they’re very very busy charities and beyond profits

very busy charities and beyond profits

very busy charities and beyond profits so if you think you’re going to do it

so if you think you’re going to do it

so if you think you’re going to do it take a moment to think how the

take a moment to think how the

take a moment to think how the relationships going to work now it’s at

relationships going to work now it’s at

relationships going to work now it’s at one minute and 25 seconds left can

one minute and 25 seconds left can

one minute and 25 seconds left can someone do the maths anyway however many

someone do the maths anyway however many

someone do the maths anyway however many minutes we are into this thing you

minutes we are into this thing you

minutes we are into this thing you probably got the impression that I’m not

probably got the impression that I’m not

probably got the impression that I’m not terribly convinced that it works you

terribly convinced that it works you

terribly convinced that it works you know time where organizations are

know time where organizations are

know time where organizations are squeezed they probably won’t have a line

squeezed they probably won’t have a line

squeezed they probably won’t have a line item but a digital or design or anything

item but a digital or design or anything

item but a digital or design or anything like that so if we don’t tell them about

like that so if we don’t tell them about

like that so if we don’t tell them about it they are going to fail massively and

it they are going to fail massively and

it they are going to fail massively and we are failing them which is wrong there

we are failing them which is wrong there

we are failing them which is wrong there needs to be a much broader understanding

needs to be a much broader understanding

needs to be a much broader understanding of design and digital both the benefits

of design and digital both the benefits

of design and digital both the benefits and the pitfalls within the beyond

and the pitfalls within the beyond

and the pitfalls within the beyond profit sector and we need to do much

profit sector and we need to do much

profit sector and we need to do much much more work to educate and inform and

much more work to educate and inform and

much more work to educate and inform and keep them abreast of industry best

keep them abreast of industry best

keep them abreast of industry best practice pro bono is not going to go

practice pro bono is not going to go

practice pro bono is not going to go away is it will continue happening which

away is it will continue happening which

away is it will continue happening which is kind of a good thing sometimes not so

is kind of a good thing sometimes not so

is kind of a good thing sometimes not so much a good thing so long as we’re

much a good thing so long as we’re

much a good thing so long as we’re delivering something meaningful within a

delivering something meaningful within a

delivering something meaningful within a reasonable time

reasonable time

reasonable time frame with skilled professionals who

frame with skilled professionals who

frame with skilled professionals who were able to take organizations on a

were able to take organizations on a

were able to take organizations on a positive and fulfilling journey that’s

positive and fulfilling journey that’s

positive and fulfilling journey that’s amazing

amazing

amazing certainly one it isn’t going to suck

certainly one it isn’t going to suck

certainly one it isn’t going to suck quite so much thank you

quite so much thank you

quite so much thank you [Applause]

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