good afternoon everyone is the truth
that the pleasure to finally know was going to
see the faces and well I also
like my colleagues is both the
that preceded me as those who
they will come later
I’m here from the other side
in my case because I come from the neighbor
city of parana that surely many
of you know or almost all should
know what is in front of you and to get there
up here therefore I had to cross
this through the subfluvial tunnel
Hernando of the subfluvial tunnel
I do not know I do not know for sure how it
call at this time but the tunnel
subfluvial
I had to cross this huge river and
wonderful river that separate us and that
It also unites us and good as you already know
much better than me
this year’s tea is just about
that of joining borders and this experience
of ears
It is a wonderful experience and
surely they will continue to corroborate
what’s left of the afternoon but I think that’s
also a more difficult experience
difficult of what we can create why
because to join banks you have to travel
you have to travel and to travel you have to
overcome resistance both externally and
internal
let’s see if I can explain a bit to see if
you agree with my way
to see the trip and the trip that is the
trip if you travel if I ask
this surely you would tell me that
traveling is basically moving to another
place
I do not know the city at all the house of
a friend a friend to the bakery the
back where he has moved to some
place not agree with that
answer but I would add something and that is
to travel is to move somewhere
but in such a way that the realization
of this movement transforms us is
to say we are no longer once the
same person that we were before
do it because if it really is
emotion of the people is that no
we travel, that is, we did not move
place where we were standing and we
we moved physically geographically
outwardly but in reality we do not
we moved and using a word a little
sophisticated existentially say no
we alter our way of perceiving the
things in our way of feeling the
things and this seems to me to be the most
important
with which it is perfectly possible that
travel many kilometers visit
very distant cities and that have not
traveled at all and at the same time
it is also perfectly possible that
we are all the time in our chair
as in the case of you during this
late and that nevertheless we made a
true transforming journey in my
profession as he already announced my
colleagues of this presenter in my
profession my job with which I earn
the life of a few years ago
I’m going to say how much to not finish
reveal life in the end but twentieth
consists of this is to travel
sitting and inviting other people who
share that trip with me because good
as the doctor anticipated the philosophy
completely
I’m a teacher in this area, I’m a teacher
philosophy with which my activity
daily consists of visiting and
interview people that many cases
bye to not say if no longer living
but it’s not there anymore because if they’re
alive and there are people who offer us the
possibility of peering into new worlds
that is, the way of interpreting the
reality that maybe for ourselves
we would not have taken into account and you’re
new ways of interpreting the
reality move
own reality that’s why so the
dear text people and invited very
generously this year not so much for being
of parana or not only because of parana and
in that sense I would like to
in this opportunity to share the
last trip that I made not only for being
the last
if actually because it was the trip that to
me more meant to me vitally and the one that
more deeply moved my world gives
I share with you certain certainties and I ask you
accompany me on this trip on this trip
what did i do
I decided to visit a very refined gentleman a
sir with a lot of class but at the same
time a man with enough
sensitivity enough greatness like
to see beyond the narrow circle
of those in your social class to
understand the concerns and
situation and the sufferings of the people
more common simpler as surely
most of us and that man is
called tomás moro and we have it there and the
punched boy no eh well I decided
to visit tomás moro for which I
I had to go nothing more, nothing less than
the city of london where this man
lives from more or less ends of the century
15 beginning of the 16th century since
five centuries is implanted in its
london natal good and daughters
I arrived I got off the airport and I
I went to the place where he has it with these
luxurious offices are in the center
from the beautiful city of london still
standing the door
I asked for an interview with him the
granted
and once inside
well he received me very kindly a
Mr. very polite English and I raised him
a single question that interested me
know only one thing
to know what it was that him most
worried that they would lose sleep to
Don Tomás Moro, I asked him what they take from him
he thought and he tells me what else
what worries me the most is the
world around me says I got to
see around
we actually got the only thing that I saw
They were very luxurious and
comfortably arranged so
they have not had an answer
I asked him what do you see
moro that you so terrible and he tells me
of other things in the first place
I see a lot of people who work hard and
has very little
secondly I see very few people who
works very little and that nevertheless
has almost everything and in third place and this
what hurt him most
I see a lot of people who do not even have the
opportunity to work is to say people
unoccupied
In short, what he saw was and
justice and unhappiness
the two things together a cause of the
another because it seems to be the
happiness of some people that prevents
happiness other people the truth that
It’s broken I was surprised and it hurt
because I realized that his world of
16th century was too similar to
our
maybe this resemblance was not casual
he realized that I was very
silent and I was very
sorry sorry and for
cheering me up with my face turned on told me
young young banal leave poetic what
we can give for your love for me for good
young man tells me do not get me wrong I do not know
discourage because there is solution sought the
solution and has found clear what it
had done is in that same place in that
same chair that I was sitting on
attending to me he had thought
how a world should be organized
so that it did not happen could happen to me
all these things that happened
that is, he had begun to think which
would be the bases that would make a
fair world and happy eyes always both
things together and never the first chill
out in the second
good let’s start with the first thing
We do or galindo for the most pleasing
Happiness asked him good what he does
lack for us to have a happy world and
he answered me bluntly
doctor so that we have a happy world
we need like a channel or the teacher
of English people did what they could with me
said Lord of course comfort proof of
do not try the neighborhood we tell you with
it is of course
and I certainly like it a lot more
the black pancakes from the bakery
here to the turn whose name I can not
reveal but good as the British
he referred to his loved ones with the
people need food and then the
food needs other things but always
about work needs health needs
old age need to book
always on the basis of good food
we see is the whole world
eat that everyone has access to
the food according to your needs and already
we will have a perfect happy world already
we have happy world
and this is the moment in which the
perfect talk I would distribute the comes
between the assistant people thing that does not
we can do
on the one hand because it does not give us the
pemex budget but
fundamentally because of what is
try at this moment is to think of
project what this world would be like
have not materialized with which to
the debris we will have to wait and
width of the happy world
now I’m in that fair also because
I have still not fair is not even
viable because as everyone knows
the stands do not come down from the sky but
you have to produce it
you have to work to produce it and there
we have the recipe for the injured com
we need people who work the land
to produce
the wheat to start from there do the
bread and the same with the your way to the
milk or eggs etc
we need people who work the great
question that the template is good for
that this is just who are going to
work and he told me with absolute
security where absolutely everything is
everyone without privileges without
exceptions
everyone has to work and I
he said how much time he could
Miss no need to work better
more notice if we compare it with the
mean of work today five centuries
then he considered that in this way
it was going to be enough for everyone
had sufficiently planned
we already have happy world
we have a fair world because we have
people here producing you eat and people
here enjoying what we need
now and this is the best bet
important of Moro is the bridge between
these two poles will have to ensure that
what is done here I arrived whole until
he tells me the only way to guarantee
this is to prevent anyone from
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reserve that nobody can be left without
that nothing and no one can appropriate
exclusive mode of that that was produced is
say you will have to eliminate the property
private and now that replace it with a
common property I was surprised I was
eyes wide open back in
the seat because here naturally nobody
wants to pay for his and until now of the
private property and he explained to me that in
actually what is what it was about
was that nobody lose anything but that
everyone can have absolute
access equal access to all good already
Now we happy and just world
the one that we all want to live
date excited naturally
this interview to this world cart other
a detail not unimportant as the
called in this world he loved news
because the highway because I have not
there was nowhere
existed only in his head and the
head of us
that they were thinking together with
he does not exist this world never existed
but it does not mean that it can not exist
the condition for it to exist will be that
let’s make the decision to build it
well there I am
after leaving the interview with
this gentleman with happy birthday
happier than dog with two tails or
who disputed with two mothers the joke of
river people tell you because I said it
in the trial and it worked to veiga that no
it will be too much to take it too
happy but the following days
while some doubts in some
played but that he alone I stayed
ruminating and I started thinking two things
first that I was not sure that what
that Don Tomás Moor proposed
feasible that it was possible for
I could do and what would happen if this
world could not be built because the
reality from day to fact devil
first doubt and second doubt that I had
it was already once it will be possible to fulfill this
world but it did not guarantee happiness
of the people in a pasture the remedy
it ended up being worse than the disease
I stayed helping until I found out
the existence of another character also
of the 16th century to whom don tomás moro
probably did not even know that it is
this gentleman in red who is next to
moor and that is hoisting there the
utopia flag that is called Basque of
quiroga this gentleman to a espanyol that
he crossed the ocean he went to mexico and
decided to build a village on
model that I had designed not to say
following e street and extremely the recipe
of don tomás moro on my trip
obviously he had to continue on his own
stop we are not going to mexico
we cross it, we do not interview each other
Basque gift of Quiroga as well as before
we had interviewed tomás mora and
this gentleman explained me very serene and peace
just like the on the basis of the
elimination of private property and the
substitution of private property by
collective property had been built
dining rooms farm factories homes
schools and everything that is needed to
that people live happily and live in
freedom that is not a minor matter
that is, he had built utopia and its
confusion would have worked and it worked
for many centuries you know what name
he put the autopsy done to me
I was very surprised to learn about this
because he gave as nothing more name
nothing less than holy faith a beautiful
coincidence of your story had
crown my trip knowing santa fe
I got on the road and this time I could not
get to this last part of the trip not
it was possible to specify why because
prevented a route cut made by
a group of peasants claiming no longer
I remember what because in reality
needs are so many that one the truth
loses the account and the truth
well this saddened me a lot but I
started thinking and realized that
in a pasture spee this possibility is
this obstacle had a meaning like
channels to what fate what the
life is or how to call it I was
saying is that holy faith was not behind
that is to say holy faith as the autopsy
performed was not back but for
forward that is to say it was a reality but
it’s a reality that I could convert
in love in the task of building a
world seated on absolutely bases
different from the atrocious world for my taste
in which we live and good at that time
I decided to put to work and embargo
Carmen this task and start working
in this direction and in that we are
since we finished traveling and that’s what we’re doing
that he continues traveling, so if
you think it makes sense when
least consider the possibility of a
world with these characteristics or all
otherwise I will ask you to send me
a private facebook that they send
messages whatsapp or follow them
chatting the cut I think
thank you very much
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