
I’m Dave Evans and I help with this guy named bill Burnett my partner in crime
named bill Burnett my partner in crime
named bill Burnett my partner in crime bill can’t be here today but the bill be
bill can’t be here today but the bill be
bill can’t be here today but the bill be staying there and ten years ago we
staying there and ten years ago we
staying there and ten years ago we founded this thing called the Stanford
founded this thing called the Stanford
founded this thing called the Stanford Life design lab so what do we do at the
Life design lab so what do we do at the
Life design lab so what do we do at the Stanford Life design level of course we
Stanford Life design level of course we
Stanford Life design level of course we teach classes we teach classes to a
teach classes we teach classes to a
teach classes we teach classes to a whole bunch of people just designing
whole bunch of people just designing
whole bunch of people just designing your life two juniors and seniors we
your life two juniors and seniors we
your life two juniors and seniors we teach designing your Stanford to
teach designing your Stanford to
teach designing your Stanford to freshmen and sophomores we teach
freshmen and sophomores we teach
freshmen and sophomores we teach designing the professional to master’s
designing the professional to master’s
designing the professional to master’s and PhD students and postdocs we teach
and PhD students and postdocs we teach
and PhD students and postdocs we teach everybody we teach about 15 20 % of all
everybody we teach about 15 20 % of all
everybody we teach about 15 20 % of all the students at Stanford now these are
the students at Stanford now these are
the students at Stanford now these are smart people what do they need to take
smart people what do they need to take
smart people what do they need to take this class work ethic you figure this
this class work ethic you figure this
this class work ethic you figure this thing out
thing out
thing out well let’s see what they have to say
well let’s see what they have to say
well let’s see what they have to say about that what do students actually
about that what do students actually
about that what do students actually think about this question so we asked
think about this question so we asked
think about this question so we asked some we went to a career fair you know
some we went to a career fair you know
some we went to a career fair you know why are they taking this stuff so we
why are they taking this stuff so we
why are they taking this stuff so we asked them the question what are you
asked them the question what are you
asked them the question what are you gonna do with your life after you
gonna do with your life after you
gonna do with your life after you graduate kind of curious what they would
graduate kind of curious what they would
graduate kind of curious what they would think about that interesting answers to
think about that interesting answers to
think about that interesting answers to that question sounds like this
that question sounds like this
that question sounds like this interesting I was gonna go to med school
interesting I was gonna go to med school
interesting I was gonna go to med school but some grades change that I think I’m
but some grades change that I think I’m
but some grades change that I think I’m gonna go to law school my personal
gonna go to law school my personal
gonna go to law school my personal favorite right there I have no idea
favorite right there I have no idea
favorite right there I have no idea okay what’s going on here now we did not
okay what’s going on here now we did not
okay what’s going on here now we did not wait all day along for these seven
wait all day along for these seven
wait all day along for these seven clueless Stanford students to make them
clueless Stanford students to make them
clueless Stanford students to make them look bad okay this is very easy material
look bad okay this is very easy material
look bad okay this is very easy material together don’t forget they were at a
together don’t forget they were at a
together don’t forget they were at a career fair seriously hello in fact you
career fair seriously hello in fact you
career fair seriously hello in fact you know my name’s and I’m desperately
know my name’s and I’m desperately
know my name’s and I’m desperately unemployed please save me you know
unemployed please save me you know
unemployed please save me you know that’s you know that’s what’s going on
that’s you know that’s what’s going on
that’s you know that’s what’s going on and these are the answers we’re getting
and these are the answers we’re getting
and these are the answers we’re getting well smart does not mean clear well
well smart does not mean clear well
well smart does not mean clear well educated it does not mean focused or
educated it does not mean focused or
educated it does not mean focused or well-intentioned so we’ve got this
well-intentioned so we’ve got this
well-intentioned so we’ve got this question so again we form the life
question so again we form the life
question so again we form the life design mission a life design lab on our
design mission a life design lab on our
design mission a life design lab on our mission is to apply the innovation
mission is to apply the innovation
mission is to apply the innovation principles of design thinking to the
principles of design thinking to the
principles of design thinking to the wicked problem of designing your life at
wicked problem of designing your life at
wicked problem of designing your life at and after college now the colored words
and after college now the colored words
and after college now the colored words if we click on them and give you a white
if we click on them and give you a white
if we click on them and give you a white paper is very educational stuff
paper is very educational stuff
paper is very educational stuff pedagogically deep material you know and
pedagogically deep material you know and
pedagogically deep material you know and so that’s very interesting but kind of
so that’s very interesting but kind of
so that’s very interesting but kind of jargony answered a what do you really
jargony answered a what do you really
jargony answered a what do you really mean well what we really mean is this we
mean well what we really mean is this we
mean well what we really mean is this we mean we’re the guys who teach the
mean we’re the guys who teach the
mean we’re the guys who teach the classes to help you figure out what you
classes to help you figure out what you
classes to help you figure out what you want to be when you grow up and
want to be when you grow up and
want to be when you grow up and everybody goes ooh
everybody goes ooh
everybody goes ooh can I take the class everybody says
can I take the class everybody says
can I take the class everybody says never let just everybody says that we’ve
never let just everybody says that we’ve
never let just everybody says that we’ve been hearing there for like ten years
been hearing there for like ten years
been hearing there for like ten years thousands of people say can I take the
thousands of people say can I take the
thousands of people say can I take the class so that’s why we wrote the book
class so that’s why we wrote the book
class so that’s why we wrote the book that’s how why we’re here today cuz
that’s how why we’re here today cuz
that’s how why we’re here today cuz everybody has this question now by the
everybody has this question now by the
everybody has this question now by the way even the way we frame it here is
way even the way we frame it here is
way even the way we frame it here is kind of allows you where to say it
kind of allows you where to say it
kind of allows you where to say it because I don’t know about you guys but
because I don’t know about you guys but
because I don’t know about you guys but I personally have no intention of ever
I personally have no intention of ever
I personally have no intention of ever being done growing up how many of you
being done growing up how many of you
being done growing up how many of you want to be done growing up how many I
want to be done growing up how many I
want to be done growing up how many I want to keep growing
want to keep growing
want to keep growing okay that’s a trick question right so
okay that’s a trick question right so
okay that’s a trick question right so maybe we should reframe this a little
maybe we should reframe this a little
maybe we should reframe this a little bit maybe one of the guys to teach
bit maybe one of the guys to teach
bit maybe one of the guys to teach classes to help you keep figuring out
classes to help you keep figuring out
classes to help you keep figuring out what you want to be next that’s a better
what you want to be next that’s a better
what you want to be next that’s a better way to put it but even so the question
way to put it but even so the question
way to put it but even so the question still remains an important question why
still remains an important question why
still remains an important question why why are so many people asking this
why are so many people asking this
why are so many people asking this question why is this such a hard thing
question why is this such a hard thing
question why is this such a hard thing to do well there are a lot of reasons
to do well there are a lot of reasons
to do well there are a lot of reasons but one of them is people are stuck
people shocked is there in a bad place
people shocked is there in a bad place hard to get out of there what are you
hard to get out of there what are you
hard to get out of there what are you gonna do you know unless another
gonna do you know unless another
gonna do you know unless another friendly cow comes along and one of the
friendly cow comes along and one of the
friendly cow comes along and one of the big causes of this is what we call
big causes of this is what we call
big causes of this is what we call dysfunctional beliefs dysfunctional
dysfunctional beliefs dysfunctional
dysfunctional beliefs dysfunctional believes which are very popular ideas
believes which are very popular ideas
believes which are very popular ideas but they’re not particularly true
but they’re not particularly true
but they’re not particularly true they’re certainly not helpful and is
they’re certainly not helpful and is
they’re certainly not helpful and is marked my father they’re not generative
marked my father they’re not generative
marked my father they’re not generative a couple of examples for instance a very
a couple of examples for instance a very
a couple of examples for instance a very very common very popular question I bet
very common very popular question I bet
very common very popular question I bet you’ve even heard it recently hey what’s
you’ve even heard it recently hey what’s
you’ve even heard it recently hey what’s your passion properly friends what’s
your passion properly friends what’s
your passion properly friends what’s your passion what is your best
your passion what is your best
your passion what is your best are you following up how do you know
are you following up how do you know
are you following up how do you know you’re passionate who knows your passion
you’re passionate who knows your passion
you’re passionate who knows your passion are you doing your passion are you are
are you doing your passion are you are
are you doing your passion are you are you are you here’s the problem why is
you are you here’s the problem why is
you are you here’s the problem why is the dysfunctional babe well because it
the dysfunctional babe well because it
the dysfunctional babe well because it turns does according to the resource
turns does according to the resource
turns does according to the resource some of our colleagues at Stanford bill
some of our colleagues at Stanford bill
some of our colleagues at Stanford bill Damon has discovered about eight out of
Damon has discovered about eight out of
Damon has discovered about eight out of ten people answer the question what’s
ten people answer the question what’s
ten people answer the question what’s your passion with either I don’t know or
your passion with either I don’t know or
your passion with either I don’t know or which one did you want to hear about
which one did you want to hear about
which one did you want to hear about first either of those answers means what
first either of those answers means what
first either of those answers means what your passion is not a good organizing
your passion is not a good organizing
your passion is not a good organizing principle for figuring out what the rest
principle for figuring out what the rest
principle for figuring out what the rest of your life is all about let’s not
of your life is all about let’s not
of your life is all about let’s not start with a question that leaves eight
start with a question that leaves eight
start with a question that leaves eight out of ten people in a remedial case
out of ten people in a remedial case
out of ten people in a remedial case when all they’re being is normal
when all they’re being is normal
when all they’re being is normal dysfunctional bleep bad idea let’s try
dysfunctional bleep bad idea let’s try
dysfunctional bleep bad idea let’s try another one very common idea hey are you
another one very common idea hey are you
another one very common idea hey are you being the best version of you are you
being the best version of you are you
being the best version of you are you are you really being the best you are
are you really being the best you are
are you really being the best you are you sure this life you’re living is this
you sure this life you’re living is this
you sure this life you’re living is this really it are you sure is this it and
really it are you sure is this it and
really it are you sure is this it and was it that you’re not missing it oh my
was it that you’re not missing it oh my
was it that you’re not missing it oh my god you’re not settling are you are you
god you’re not settling are you are you
god you’re not settling are you are you settling I mean we’re in San Francisco
settling I mean we’re in San Francisco
settling I mean we’re in San Francisco we don’t saddle here here’s the problem
we don’t saddle here here’s the problem
we don’t saddle here here’s the problem if there’s an old business fridge you
if there’s an old business fridge you
if there’s an old business fridge you know the good is the enemy of the better
know the good is the enemy of the better
know the good is the enemy of the better and the better is the enemy of the best
and the better is the enemy of the best
and the better is the enemy of the best are you peeing your best or are you are
are you peeing your best or are you are
are you peeing your best or are you are you being our best
you being our best
you being our best it was great halftime talk but here’s
it was great halftime talk but here’s
it was great halftime talk but here’s the problem what we have noticed is
the problem what we have noticed is
the problem what we have noticed is everybody contains more aliveness than
everybody contains more aliveness than
everybody contains more aliveness than one lifetime permits them to live ie
one lifetime permits them to live ie
one lifetime permits them to live ie there’s more than one of you in there
there’s more than one of you in there
there’s more than one of you in there now I’m on my fifth career but I’m old
now I’m on my fifth career but I’m old
now I’m on my fifth career but I’m old I’m 64 I’ve got four point seven
I’m 64 I’ve got four point seven
I’m 64 I’ve got four point seven grandchildren one doing November
grandchildren one doing November
grandchildren one doing November and you know I’ve been lots of different
and you know I’ve been lots of different
and you know I’ve been lots of different things and how do you compare his best
things and how do you compare his best
things and how do you compare his best hey best something means a singular
hey best something means a singular
hey best something means a singular exclusive optimization that you know
exclusive optimization that you know
exclusive optimization that you know beyond a shadow of a doubt is better
beyond a shadow of a doubt is better
beyond a shadow of a doubt is better than all the alternatives to pull that
than all the alternatives to pull that
than all the alternatives to pull that off only one set of criteria can you be
off only one set of criteria can you be
off only one set of criteria can you be used to fairly judge all the different
used to fairly judge all the different
used to fairly judge all the different possibilities does that really work with
possibilities does that really work with
possibilities does that really work with your life no it doesn’t work
your life no it doesn’t work
your life no it doesn’t work I miss my grandfather self better than
I miss my grandfather self better than
I miss my grandfather self better than my author self it’s my other self better
my author self it’s my other self better
my author self it’s my other self better than my start up self or my educator
than my start up self or my educator
than my start up self or my educator self it’s a dumb question you can’t
self it’s a dumb question you can’t
self it’s a dumb question you can’t compare them they’re entirely different
compare them they’re entirely different
compare them they’re entirely different so the rest of that soliloquy ought to
so the rest of that soliloquy ought to
so the rest of that soliloquy ought to be and the false best is the enemy of
be and the false best is the enemy of
be and the false best is the enemy of available better here’s the problem have
available better here’s the problem have
available better here’s the problem have you signed up for this idea you’ve
you signed up for this idea you’ve
you signed up for this idea you’ve decided you have to be your best self
decided you have to be your best self
decided you have to be your best self and there isn’t one best you you just
and there isn’t one best you you just
and there isn’t one best you you just decided to be unhappy for the rest of
decided to be unhappy for the rest of
decided to be unhappy for the rest of your life don’t go there
your life don’t go there
your life don’t go there let’s don’t go there it’s a bad idea let
let’s don’t go there it’s a bad idea let
let’s don’t go there it’s a bad idea let me demonstrate how this actually works
me demonstrate how this actually works
me demonstrate how this actually works because what I want to do is actually
because what I want to do is actually
because what I want to do is actually ask your question would find out now who
ask your question would find out now who
ask your question would find out now who do this all the time how many lives are
do this all the time how many lives are
do this all the time how many lives are you perhaps Nations explain the question
you perhaps Nations explain the question
you perhaps Nations explain the question we’re gonna do a little experiment now
we’re gonna do a little experiment now
we’re gonna do a little experiment now it’s called a Gedanken experiment that’s
it’s called a Gedanken experiment that’s
it’s called a Gedanken experiment that’s the technical name for a thought
the technical name for a thought
the technical name for a thought experiment and in German and sometimes
experiment and in German and sometimes
experiment and in German and sometimes you do them in your head because you
you do them in your head because you
you do them in your head because you can’t do them anywhere else you have to
can’t do them anywhere else you have to
can’t do them anywhere else you have to do them imagine aliso let’s imagine that
do them imagine aliso let’s imagine that
do them imagine aliso let’s imagine that in fact we’ve now proven indeed it’s a
in fact we’ve now proven indeed it’s a
in fact we’ve now proven indeed it’s a multiverse there are infinite parallel
multiverse there are infinite parallel
multiverse there are infinite parallel universes out there in the cosmos
universes out there in the cosmos
universes out there in the cosmos angstroms apart in the nineteenth
angstroms apart in the nineteenth
angstroms apart in the nineteenth dimension if we but knew how to measure
dimension if we but knew how to measure
dimension if we but knew how to measure it but they’re out there trust me thing
it but they’re out there trust me thing
it but they’re out there trust me thing too we’ve figured out that we can do
too we’ve figured out that we can do
too we’ve figured out that we can do concurrent consciousness by deploying
concurrent consciousness by deploying
concurrent consciousness by deploying wormholes and string theory so there are
wormholes and string theory so there are
wormholes and string theory so there are infinite universes and you’re present
infinite universes and you’re present
infinite universes and you’re present and all of them and you can be
and all of them and you can be
and all of them and you can be consciously aware of all of you at the
consciously aware of all of you at the
consciously aware of all of you at the same time how cool is that
same time how cool is that
same time how cool is that but there’s one really strange thing
but there’s one really strange thing
but there’s one really strange thing about the multiverse you have to reserve
about the multiverse you have to reserve
about the multiverse you have to reserve a place in advance it’s kind of like
a place in advance it’s kind of like
a place in advance it’s kind of like open table you know we got a call ahead
open table you know we got a call ahead
open table you know we got a call ahead so to get into the multiverse we just
so to get into the multiverse we just
so to get into the multiverse we just need to know how many of you you’d like
need to know how many of you you’d like
need to know how many of you you’d like you can have as many as you want all the
you can have as many as you want all the
you can have as many as you want all the different versions of you and isn’t that
different versions of you and isn’t that
different versions of you and isn’t that like Wolverine who gets older and
like Wolverine who gets older and
like Wolverine who gets older and everybody dies the autumn we have to
everybody dies the autumn we have to
everybody dies the autumn we have to start over over and again note
start over over and again note
start over over and again note everybody’s there it’s all fine you’re
everybody’s there it’s all fine you’re
everybody’s there it’s all fine you’re healthy everything you need is there you
healthy everything you need is there you
healthy everything you need is there you can even repeat the thing
can even repeat the thing
can even repeat the thing else had the life they’re in now you
else had the life they’re in now you
else had the life they’re in now you love you do it again if you could find
love you do it again if you could find
love you do it again if you could find you can have as many do-overs this you
you can have as many do-overs this you
you can have as many do-overs this you want first time we took her to
want first time we took her to
want first time we took her to Disneyland my lovely daughter Lisa
Disneyland my lovely daughter Lisa
Disneyland my lovely daughter Lisa decided a good way to spend an entire
decided a good way to spend an entire
decided a good way to spend an entire day was to ride Dumbo 42 times after 38
day was to ride Dumbo 42 times after 38
day was to ride Dumbo 42 times after 38 honey want to do it again yes okay so
honey want to do it again yes okay so
honey want to do it again yes okay so let’s keep doing w under 42 Dumbo’s you
let’s keep doing w under 42 Dumbo’s you
let’s keep doing w under 42 Dumbo’s you got that but I want you now to think of
got that but I want you now to think of
got that but I want you now to think of all the different lives you could
all the different lives you could
all the different lives you could possibly have and one more you’d finally
possibly have and one more you’d finally
possibly have and one more you’d finally say I just don’t know what I’d do with
say I just don’t know what I’d do with
say I just don’t know what I’d do with that one so pick a number in your head
that one so pick a number in your head
that one so pick a number in your head how many lives might you be in the
how many lives might you be in the
how many lives might you be in the multiverse I’m gonna go one two three
multiverse I’m gonna go one two three
multiverse I’m gonna go one two three one what I said four shout your number
one what I said four shout your number
one what I said four shout your number you break out a number your head
you break out a number your head
you break out a number your head participative experience here here we go
participative experience here here we go
participative experience here here we go 1 2 3 very 10 7 and 18 ok median 12.2
1 2 3 very 10 7 and 18 ok median 12.2
1 2 3 very 10 7 and 18 ok median 12.2 which means look the numbers bigger than
which means look the numbers bigger than
which means look the numbers bigger than 1 right there’s more than one of you and
1 right there’s more than one of you and
1 right there’s more than one of you and we all know this
we all know this
we all know this so the reframe is really simple look
so the reframe is really simple look
so the reframe is really simple look there are lots of great use you know and
there are lots of great use you know and
there are lots of great use you know and so in fact they’re the center fees
so in fact they’re the center fees
so in fact they’re the center fees exercise we do in our courses in our
exercise we do in our courses in our
exercise we do in our courses in our book we call the Odyssey plan the
book we call the Odyssey plan the
book we call the Odyssey plan the odyssey plan is three different versions
odyssey plan is three different versions
odyssey plan is three different versions of the next 5 years of you’ll have
of the next 5 years of you’ll have
of the next 5 years of you’ll have completely different versions you know
completely different versions you know
completely different versions you know because of course there’s more than one
because of course there’s more than one
because of course there’s more than one of you can’t have an idea about your
of you can’t have an idea about your
of you can’t have an idea about your future have to have some ideas about
future have to have some ideas about
future have to have some ideas about your future because there’s so many of
your future because there’s so many of
your future because there’s so many of you and it’s never too late is it really
you and it’s never too late is it really
you and it’s never too late is it really never too late is it really never too
never too late is it really never too
never too late is it really never too late yes it is really never too late by
late yes it is really never too late by
late yes it is really never too late by the way because we’re doing this stuff
the way because we’re doing this stuff
the way because we’re doing this stuff and we did the book and the Stanford
and we did the book and the Stanford
and we did the book and the Stanford sent us to 16 cities and all this stuff
sent us to 16 cities and all this stuff
sent us to 16 cities and all this stuff people suddenly say well gosh you guys
people suddenly say well gosh you guys
people suddenly say well gosh you guys hang out with young people a lot you you
hang out with young people a lot you you
hang out with young people a lot you you talk to college students on a lot of
talk to college students on a lot of
talk to college students on a lot of Millennials you know don’t you really
Millennials you know don’t you really
Millennials you know don’t you really find this is a young prisons question
find this is a young prisons question
find this is a young prisons question that what’s really true is you know
that what’s really true is you know
that what’s really true is you know there’s a certain point fence which this
there’s a certain point fence which this
there’s a certain point fence which this is not the question anymore let me
is not the question anymore let me
is not the question anymore let me reframe what you just asked me Dave you
reframe what you just asked me Dave you
reframe what you just asked me Dave you and Bill been on the road a lot have you
and Bill been on the road a lot have you
and Bill been on the road a lot have you noticed there’s an age passed which most
noticed there’s an age passed which most
noticed there’s an age passed which most people really don’t care anymore and
people really don’t care anymore and
people really don’t care anymore and they’re just waiting to die and there’s
they’re just waiting to die and there’s
they’re just waiting to die and there’s no we have not noticed that and the
no we have not noticed that and the
no we have not noticed that and the first big meeting we had 40 people in
first big meeting we had 40 people in
first big meeting we had 40 people in New York come out to talk about stuff
New York come out to talk about stuff
New York come out to talk about stuff just like we’re talking here right in
just like we’re talking here right in
just like we’re talking here right in the middle in the center from the class
the middle in the center from the class
the middle in the center from the class of 1953 there’s our Stanford alumni you
of 1953 there’s our Stanford alumni you
of 1953 there’s our Stanford alumni you know is Connie and Connie is 87 years
know is Connie and Connie is 87 years
know is Connie and Connie is 87 years old and we do this exercise we do this
old and we do this exercise we do this
old and we do this exercise we do this exercise
exercise
exercise in the room with the three versions of
in the room with the three versions of
in the room with the three versions of your future and of course immediately I
your future and of course immediately I
your future and of course immediately I can see she’s stuck
can see she’s stuck
can see she’s stuck well she’s 87 you know how come dear can
well she’s 87 you know how come dear can
well she’s 87 you know how come dear can I can I help you
I can I help you
I can I help you oh yes could you please I just have so
oh yes could you please I just have so
oh yes could you please I just have so many ideas I don’t know where to start
many ideas I don’t know where to start
many ideas I don’t know where to start oh oh that’s the problem you got you
oh oh that’s the problem you got you
oh oh that’s the problem you got you really want to be Connie when you grow
really want to be Connie when you grow
really want to be Connie when you grow up trust me when I do that little
up trust me when I do that little
up trust me when I do that little exercise we just did my anecdotal
exercise we just did my anecdotal
exercise we just did my anecdotal observation is the older the median age
observation is the older the median age
observation is the older the median age of a crowd the higher the number you’re
of a crowd the higher the number you’re
of a crowd the higher the number you’re not just getting older you’re not even
not just getting older you’re not even
not just getting older you’re not even just getting better you’re getting
just getting better you’re getting
just getting better you’re getting bigger over time you realize how
bigger over time you realize how
bigger over time you realize how capacious and huge you actually are now
capacious and huge you actually are now
capacious and huge you actually are now why the world really is this thing just
why the world really is this thing just
why the world really is this thing just gets better and worse at the same time
gets better and worse at the same time
gets better and worse at the same time all right so that’s Connie now is it
all right so that’s Connie now is it
all right so that’s Connie now is it really never too late I just got an
really never too late I just got an
really never too late I just got an email from a woman who said thank you
email from a woman who said thank you
email from a woman who said thank you very much I just wanted you to know
very much I just wanted you to know
very much I just wanted you to know you’re really able to help people
you’re really able to help people
you’re really able to help people because I have a dear husband whose
because I have a dear husband whose
because I have a dear husband whose parents convinced him when he was a
parents convinced him when he was a
parents convinced him when he was a child that he really wasn’t worth
child that he really wasn’t worth
child that he really wasn’t worth anything and he unfortunately believed
anything and he unfortunately believed
anything and he unfortunately believed them and for the 38 years of our
them and for the 38 years of our
them and for the 38 years of our marriage I’ve been trying to encourage
marriage I’ve been trying to encourage
marriage I’ve been trying to encourage him and he’s really been stuck and
him and he’s really been stuck and
him and he’s really been stuck and hasn’t really been able to get anywhere
hasn’t really been able to get anywhere
hasn’t really been able to get anywhere but some of your ideas have helped him
but some of your ideas have helped him
but some of your ideas have helped him and he’s actually moving he’s finally
and he’s actually moving he’s finally
and he’s actually moving he’s finally moving that’s not because we wrote an
moving that’s not because we wrote an
moving that’s not because we wrote an amazing book books aren’t gonna just
amazing book books aren’t gonna just
amazing book books aren’t gonna just fundamentally change you he’s an amazing
fundamentally change you he’s an amazing
fundamentally change you he’s an amazing person we’re all amazing persons it’s
person we’re all amazing persons it’s
person we’re all amazing persons it’s just you might have some stuff in your
just you might have some stuff in your
just you might have some stuff in your head that’s got you stuck that you don’t
head that’s got you stuck that you don’t
head that’s got you stuck that you don’t need anymore is it really true it’s
need anymore is it really true it’s
need anymore is it really true it’s never too late yes it really is so build
never too late yes it really is so build
never too late yes it really is so build your way for by designing your life now
your way for by designing your life now
your way for by designing your life now what does that mean the secret sauce is
what does that mean the secret sauce is
what does that mean the secret sauce is this design thinking so very briefly
this design thinking so very briefly
this design thinking so very briefly Design Thinking is one of a number of
Design Thinking is one of a number of
Design Thinking is one of a number of ways of thinking with engineering
ways of thinking with engineering
ways of thinking with engineering thinking sharing thinking solves
thinking sharing thinking solves
thinking sharing thinking solves problems way well understand that’s
problems way well understand that’s
problems way well understand that’s great good way to build a bridge build
great good way to build a bridge build
great good way to build a bridge build if today it works
if today it works
if today it works build it tomorrow it works fine you know
build it tomorrow it works fine you know
build it tomorrow it works fine you know that’s a great solution we got business
that’s a great solution we got business
that’s a great solution we got business thinking in business you never write you
thinking in business you never write you
thinking in business you never write you never done you’d ever have enough
never done you’d ever have enough
never done you’d ever have enough profitability or enough customer
profitability or enough customer
profitability or enough customer satisfaction but you can optimize your
satisfaction but you can optimize your
satisfaction but you can optimize your gonna have figures of marriage you can
gonna have figures of marriage you can
gonna have figures of marriage you can learn how to think in an optimization
learn how to think in an optimization
learn how to think in an optimization sort of wake in to research like we do
sort of wake in to research like we do
sort of wake in to research like we do at the University start with hypothesis
at the University start with hypothesis
at the University start with hypothesis dependent independent variables a whole
dependent independent variables a whole
dependent independent variables a whole series of steps to get down to the
series of steps to get down to the
series of steps to get down to the critical question it’s a wonderful
critical question it’s a wonderful
critical question it’s a wonderful analytic approach so I can solve my way
analytic approach so I can solve my way
analytic approach so I can solve my way for it I can optimize my way for I can
for it I can optimize my way for I can
for it I can optimize my way for I can analyze my way for it but all those tame
analyze my way for it but all those tame
analyze my way for it but all those tame problem solutions well bounded well
problem solutions well bounded well
problem solutions well bounded well interested problem solutions don’t solve
interested problem solutions don’t solve
interested problem solutions don’t solve wicked problems when you don’t know what
wicked problems when you don’t know what
wicked problems when you don’t know what you’re looking for until you find it
you’re looking for until you find it
you’re looking for until you find it kind of like your own life and that’s
kind of like your own life and that’s
kind of like your own life and that’s when you have to build your way forward
when you have to build your way forward
when you have to build your way forward in design thinking as a way to build
in design thinking as a way to build
in design thinking as a way to build your way forward and solve a wicked
your way forward and solve a wicked
your way forward and solve a wicked problem it does too has two descriptions
problem it does too has two descriptions
problem it does too has two descriptions a process and a set of mindsets the
a process and a set of mindsets the
a process and a set of mindsets the process has five steps you can start
process has five steps you can start
process has five steps you can start with everything really understand what’s
with everything really understand what’s
with everything really understand what’s going on then define your point of view
going on then define your point of view
going on then define your point of view then have some ideas try them out and go
then have some ideas try them out and go
then have some ideas try them out and go test them before you hit the world and
test them before you hit the world and
test them before you hit the world and before you do any of that don’t forget
before you do any of that don’t forget
before you do any of that don’t forget to accept the reality the way it is
to accept the reality the way it is
to accept the reality the way it is because trust me it goes through a place
because trust me it goes through a place
because trust me it goes through a place that looks just like today no matter
that looks just like today no matter
that looks just like today no matter where you are you’re starting the right
where you are you’re starting the right
where you are you’re starting the right place the mind sets the way a designer
place the mind sets the way a designer
place the mind sets the way a designer kind of look two things are pretty
kind of look two things are pretty
kind of look two things are pretty simple you know we start with curiosity
simple you know we start with curiosity
simple you know we start with curiosity ooh that’s interesting which is gonna
ooh that’s interesting which is gonna
ooh that’s interesting which is gonna cause us to go talk to a whole bunch of
cause us to go talk to a whole bunch of
cause us to go talk to a whole bunch of people the radical collaboration doesn’t
people the radical collaboration doesn’t
people the radical collaboration doesn’t mean radical ideas that means radically
mean radical ideas that means radically
mean radical ideas that means radically talk to everybody and in so doing I’m
talk to everybody and in so doing I’m
talk to everybody and in so doing I’m probably gonna get a new point if I’m
probably gonna get a new point if I’m
probably gonna get a new point if I’m going to reframe the way I think about
going to reframe the way I think about
going to reframe the way I think about some things I’m gonna keep the process
some things I’m gonna keep the process
some things I’m gonna keep the process steps in mind so I get neither head up
steps in mind so I get neither head up
steps in mind so I get neither head up nor behind myself and eventually when in
nor behind myself and eventually when in
nor behind myself and eventually when in doubt do something quit thinking and
doubt do something quit thinking and
doubt do something quit thinking and analyzing go do stuff we build and we do
analyzing go do stuff we build and we do
analyzing go do stuff we build and we do to think so what is this designing a
to think so what is this designing a
to think so what is this designing a life what do you guys actually talk
life what do you guys actually talk
life what do you guys actually talk about well it’s a whole bunch of stuff
about well it’s a whole bunch of stuff
about well it’s a whole bunch of stuff it’s all that that’s way too much I mean
it’s all that that’s way too much I mean
it’s all that that’s way too much I mean okay so could you could you simplify
okay so could you could you simplify
okay so could you could you simplify that if you’re not thinking down well
that if you’re not thinking down well
that if you’re not thinking down well yeah there’s three things get curious
yeah there’s three things get curious
yeah there’s three things get curious talk to people try stuff that’s really
talk to people try stuff that’s really
talk to people try stuff that’s really it ah no let’s take these one at time
it ah no let’s take these one at time
it ah no let’s take these one at time victorious curate your curiosity by
victorious curate your curiosity by
victorious curate your curiosity by pursuing layton wonderful us you know it
pursuing layton wonderful us you know it
pursuing layton wonderful us you know it looks like if you’ve curated your
looks like if you’ve curated your
looks like if you’ve curated your curiosity curating curiosity means you
curiosity curating curiosity means you
curiosity curating curiosity means you live – the kind of life like my friend
live – the kind of life like my friend
live – the kind of life like my friend Stu did when he was well into his
Stu did when he was well into his
Stu did when he was well into his nineties and he was dying he was
nineties and he was dying he was
nineties and he was dying he was homeland hospice care and he was
homeland hospice care and he was
homeland hospice care and he was fidgeting a little bit and he looked
fidgeting a little bit and he looked
fidgeting a little bit and he looked like he might have been been in some
like he might have been been in some
like he might have been been in some pain in his and his daughter said dad do
pain in his and his daughter said dad do
pain in his and his daughter said dad do you want me to hit the morphine button
you want me to hit the morphine button
you want me to hit the morphine button he says no no no only good to do this
he says no no no only good to do this
he says no no no only good to do this once I don’t miss it
once I don’t miss it
once I don’t miss it that’s serious curiosity I wonder what
that’s serious curiosity I wonder what
that’s serious curiosity I wonder what my death is going to be like that’s
my death is going to be like that’s
my death is going to be like that’s going to be so interesting that’s a guy
going to be so interesting that’s a guy
going to be so interesting that’s a guy this curators curiosity but now to make
this curators curiosity but now to make
this curators curiosity but now to make this thing accessible you know that’s
this thing accessible you know that’s
this thing accessible you know that’s not the at the end of a guy that already
not the at the end of a guy that already
not the at the end of a guy that already knows have
knows have
knows have how do you build this well lets you use
how do you build this well lets you use
how do you build this well lets you use a story we use a story a particularly
a story we use a story a particularly
a story we use a story a particularly life will illustrate this too in the
life will illustrate this too in the
life will illustrate this too in the book a caller Clara in life we call her
book a caller Clara in life we call her
book a caller Clara in life we call her Claudia I happen to know this story
Claudia I happen to know this story
Claudia I happen to know this story right there well because she just
right there well because she just
right there well because she just happens to be my wife okay um
happens to be my wife okay um
happens to be my wife okay um nepotism notwithstanding it’s a great
nepotism notwithstanding it’s a great
nepotism notwithstanding it’s a great illustration how to do this thing right
illustration how to do this thing right
illustration how to do this thing right so in in curiosity by the way she starts
so in in curiosity by the way she starts
so in in curiosity by the way she starts out by being curious about the fact that
out by being curious about the fact that
out by being curious about the fact that what do I do now because she did exactly
what do I do now because she did exactly
what do I do now because she did exactly two things for thirty years raised her
two things for thirty years raised her
two things for thirty years raised her kids and made the money single mom kids
kids and made the money single mom kids
kids and made the money single mom kids graduate move toward retirement haven’t
graduate move toward retirement haven’t
graduate move toward retirement haven’t got a single idea what to do with myself
got a single idea what to do with myself
got a single idea what to do with myself haven’t got a single passion haven’t got
haven’t got a single passion haven’t got
haven’t got a single passion haven’t got a plan B have got nothing so what do I
a plan B have got nothing so what do I
a plan B have got nothing so what do I do I decide the world is full of
do I decide the world is full of
do I decide the world is full of interesting things and I’m gonna start
interesting things and I’m gonna start
interesting things and I’m gonna start being aware of what I not didn’t used to
being aware of what I not didn’t used to
being aware of what I not didn’t used to notice and open the way the only thing I
notice and open the way the only thing I
notice and open the way the only thing I could remember is I used to be a
could remember is I used to be a
could remember is I used to be a feminist and I still am actually and I
feminist and I still am actually and I
feminist and I still am actually and I think that’s really important of it that
think that’s really important of it that
think that’s really important of it that women thing is important to me so she
women thing is important to me so she
women thing is important to me so she just starts noticing and looking and she
just starts noticing and looking and she
just starts noticing and looking and she bumps into a thing called the California
bumps into a thing called the California
bumps into a thing called the California Women’s Foundation and she talks to some
Women’s Foundation and she talks to some
Women’s Foundation and she talks to some of these people she is sitting at the
of these people she is sitting at the
of these people she is sitting at the coffee I were at church and somebody
coffee I were at church and somebody
coffee I were at church and somebody announces there’s a mediation clash it
announces there’s a mediation clash it
announces there’s a mediation clash it was it was that’s interesting what is
was it was that’s interesting what is
was it was that’s interesting what is mediation anyway and off she goes
mediation anyway and off she goes
mediation anyway and off she goes and those curiosities begin to cure it
and those curiosities begin to cure it
and those curiosities begin to cure it and turn into talking to people now when
and turn into talking to people now when
and turn into talking to people now when you talk to me what do you do get the
you talk to me what do you do get the
you talk to me what do you do get the story there’s not about getting the job
story there’s not about getting the job
story there’s not about getting the job it’s not about getting the money it’s
it’s not about getting the money it’s
it’s not about getting the money it’s not about getting the transaction it’s
not about getting the transaction it’s
not about getting the transaction it’s just about get the story when you talk
just about get the story when you talk
just about get the story when you talk to people you’re just getting the story
to people you’re just getting the story
to people you’re just getting the story so she does this she gets the story from
so she does this she gets the story from
so she does this she gets the story from the mediator and finds that really
the mediator and finds that really
the mediator and finds that really interesting and gets invited to maybe
interesting and gets invited to maybe
interesting and gets invited to maybe take a class and come observe and she
take a class and come observe and she
take a class and come observe and she she goes to the Women’s Foundation
she goes to the Women’s Foundation
she goes to the Women’s Foundation you know meets with the president sits
you know meets with the president sits
you know meets with the president sits in on a meeting gets invited to come you
in on a meeting gets invited to come you
in on a meeting gets invited to come you know she just follows her know he’s
know she just follows her know he’s
know she just follows her know he’s pursuing layton wonderful and she
pursuing layton wonderful and she
pursuing layton wonderful and she doesn’t even know what she’s looking for
doesn’t even know what she’s looking for
doesn’t even know what she’s looking for yet she’ll know it when she finds it now
yet she’ll know it when she finds it now
yet she’ll know it when she finds it now you say maybe I’m you know like Amy I’m
you say maybe I’m you know like Amy I’m
you say maybe I’m you know like Amy I’m an insurer I don’t want to do all that
an insurer I don’t want to do all that
an insurer I don’t want to do all that talking how does that work what’s the
talking how does that work what’s the
talking how does that work what’s the secret to get people to talk you it’s
secret to get people to talk you it’s
secret to get people to talk you it’s really simple interested is interesting
really simple interested is interesting
really simple interested is interesting interested is interested curiosity
interested is interested curiosity
interested is interested curiosity really does work if you’ve decided who a
really does work if you’ve decided who a
really does work if you’ve decided who a coin therapy I didn’t even know horses
coin therapy I didn’t even know horses
coin therapy I didn’t even know horses had depression no no we use horses to
had depression no no we use horses to
had depression no no we use horses to help people with depression you know and
help people with depression you know and
help people with depression you know and so the equity is like a real safe you
so the equity is like a real safe you
so the equity is like a real safe you can actually do a quite fit okay and so
can actually do a quite fit okay and so
can actually do a quite fit okay and so you go find an equi interest now how
you go find an equi interest now how
you go find an equi interest now how many of you probably think you know what
many of you probably think you know what
many of you probably think you know what how do you think your life is
how do you think your life is
how do you think your life is interesting to you yeah about that most
interesting to you yeah about that most
interesting to you yeah about that most people do so if it turns out I’ve done
people do so if it turns out I’ve done
people do so if it turns out I’ve done the research and hey you know
the research and hey you know
the research and hey you know Aloise your neckline therapist I think
Aloise your neckline therapist I think
Aloise your neckline therapist I think what you do is fascinating and you think
what you do is fascinating and you think
what you do is fascinating and you think what you do is fascinating we share the
what you do is fascinating we share the
what you do is fascinating we share the fact that we both think you are so cool
fact that we both think you are so cool
fact that we both think you are so cool so we could have a conversation that
so we could have a conversation that
so we could have a conversation that interesting interested is really
interesting interested is really
interesting interested is really interesting and if you curate a true
interesting and if you curate a true
interesting and if you curate a true curiosity it’s a power pill inside you
curiosity it’s a power pill inside you
curiosity it’s a power pill inside you that will move you through but I don’t
that will move you through but I don’t
that will move you through but I don’t know how to do this which finally get
know how to do this which finally get
know how to do this which finally get you to try stuff when it comes to try
you to try stuff when it comes to try
you to try stuff when it comes to try stuff they mean set the bar low and
stuff they mean set the bar low and
stuff they mean set the bar low and clear it I just had a cup of coffee she
clear it I just had a cup of coffee she
clear it I just had a cup of coffee she says and then I went to I sat in on a
says and then I went to I sat in on a
says and then I went to I sat in on a meeting you know and observed a class
meeting you know and observed a class
meeting you know and observed a class and then I’m going to take the class she
and then I’m going to take the class she
and then I’m going to take the class she just took the class that didn’t sign up
just took the class that didn’t sign up
just took the class that didn’t sign up it isn’t certified eventually she’s
it isn’t certified eventually she’s
it isn’t certified eventually she’s doing mediation on the side you know and
doing mediation on the side you know and
doing mediation on the side you know and what you want to do then is repeat until
what you want to do then is repeat until
what you want to do then is repeat until engaged there’s no deadline so Claudia
engaged there’s no deadline so Claudia
engaged there’s no deadline so Claudia kept going on these things and it turned
kept going on these things and it turned
kept going on these things and it turned out the one that she noticed herself
out the one that she noticed herself
out the one that she noticed herself continuing to come back to over and over
continuing to come back to over and over
continuing to come back to over and over again was on homelessness one of the
again was on homelessness one of the
again was on homelessness one of the philanthropists in town said hey I hear
philanthropists in town said hey I hear
philanthropists in town said hey I hear you’re looking for stuff to do follow me
you’re looking for stuff to do follow me
you’re looking for stuff to do follow me come take a tour of the homeless service
come take a tour of the homeless service
come take a tour of the homeless service center in Santa Cruz she can’t be here
center in Santa Cruz she can’t be here
center in Santa Cruz she can’t be here with me today because she’s flying back
with me today because she’s flying back
with me today because she’s flying back from DC having just been a week in the
from DC having just been a week in the
from DC having just been a week in the National homelessness conference because
National homelessness conference because
National homelessness conference because she’s on the way to becoming a national
she’s on the way to becoming a national
she’s on the way to becoming a national thought leader on solving this problem
thought leader on solving this problem
thought leader on solving this problem after seven years of being the president
after seven years of being the president
after seven years of being the president of the homeless Center in Santa Cruz
of the homeless Center in Santa Cruz
of the homeless Center in Santa Cruz where we live so repeat until engaged
where we live so repeat until engaged
where we live so repeat until engaged and that’s what it means to design your
and that’s what it means to design your
and that’s what it means to design your life what are really saying is we’re
life what are really saying is we’re
life what are really saying is we’re designing our aliveness the whole point
designing our aliveness the whole point
designing our aliveness the whole point is to by getting curious curating that
is to by getting curious curating that
is to by getting curious curating that curiosity proactively the same way stood
curiosity proactively the same way stood
curiosity proactively the same way stood in the same way eventually Claudia
in the same way eventually Claudia
in the same way eventually Claudia they’re very accessible way and then
they’re very accessible way and then
they’re very accessible way and then talk to a bunch of people it’s all about
talk to a bunch of people it’s all about
talk to a bunch of people it’s all about the people you’re hearing social
the people you’re hearing social
the people you’re hearing social connectedness from all of us and then
connectedness from all of us and then
connectedness from all of us and then try stuff and keep trying stuff until
try stuff and keep trying stuff until
try stuff and keep trying stuff until you notice oh I’m actually doing stuff
you notice oh I’m actually doing stuff
you notice oh I’m actually doing stuff and that’s the way you can design a long
and that’s the way you can design a long
and that’s the way you can design a long and joyful life okay I’m just about out
and joyful life okay I’m just about out
and joyful life okay I’m just about out of time in fact I get eleven point two
of time in fact I get eleven point two
of time in fact I get eleven point two seconds so wrapping this thing up why
seconds so wrapping this thing up why
seconds so wrapping this thing up why does this work what’s this all about
does this work what’s this all about
does this work what’s this all about what’s really about this human centered
what’s really about this human centered
what’s really about this human centered design thing design thinking was called
design thing design thinking was called
design thing design thinking was called human centered design when it was
human centered design when it was
human centered design when it was conceived in the 60s it’s all about what
conceived in the 60s it’s all about what
conceived in the 60s it’s all about what works for people so applying a human
works for people so applying a human
works for people so applying a human process to the human life real thing
process to the human life real thing
process to the human life real thing real tools for real people that’s what
real tools for real people that’s what
real tools for real people that’s what it’s all about
it’s all about
it’s all about so does any life we’re just trying to do
so does any life we’re just trying to do
so does any life we’re just trying to do this a little more humanely and the
this a little more humanely and the
this a little more humanely and the feedback we’re getting is that that more
feedback we’re getting is that that more
feedback we’re getting is that that more human approach is leaving people more
human approach is leaving people more
human approach is leaving people more hopeful and a little bit or helped
hopeful and a little bit or helped
hopeful and a little bit or helped so as we ask the question about
so as we ask the question about
so as we ask the question about longevity
longevity
longevity what kind of life we trying to help
what kind of life we trying to help
what kind of life we trying to help people experience we’re probably coming
people experience we’re probably coming
people experience we’re probably coming up but things like happen we want be
up but things like happen we want be
up but things like happen we want be able to be more passionate and balanced
able to be more passionate and balanced
able to be more passionate and balanced and super powered and connected and kale
and super powered and connected and kale
and super powered and connected and kale loving and innovative and just plain
loving and innovative and just plain
loving and innovative and just plain dazzling you know let’s have long
dazzling you know let’s have long
dazzling you know let’s have long dazzling lives you know that’s great but
dazzling lives you know that’s great but
dazzling lives you know that’s great but can we not lose our focus on being a
can we not lose our focus on being a
can we not lose our focus on being a little more human and if we pursued that
little more human and if we pursued that
little more human and if we pursued that that would be a worthy thing Thanks
that would be a worthy thing Thanks
that would be a worthy thing Thanks [Applause]
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