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Defining Successful Mentorship | Kevin Frick | TEDxJHUDC


thank you

thank you and thank you for inviting me to speak

and thank you for inviting me to speak

and thank you for inviting me to speak this morning so I’m gonna pose a

this morning so I’m gonna pose a

this morning so I’m gonna pose a question this morning and the question

question this morning and the question

question this morning and the question is how do i define successful mentoring

is how do i define successful mentoring

is how do i define successful mentoring let me start by giving you a short

let me start by giving you a short

let me start by giving you a short answer to that question the short answer

answer to that question the short answer

answer to that question the short answer is successful mentoring to me is making

is successful mentoring to me is making

is successful mentoring to me is making a commitment to help someone that will

a commitment to help someone that will

a commitment to help someone that will be translated into a help for others

be translated into a help for others

be translated into a help for others down the line and what I want to do is I

down the line and what I want to do is I

down the line and what I want to do is I want to tell you ten short stories about

want to tell you ten short stories about

want to tell you ten short stories about people that I’ve mentored to illustrate

people that I’ve mentored to illustrate

people that I’ve mentored to illustrate how this occurs some of my words some of

how this occurs some of my words some of

how this occurs some of my words some of their words sometimes the words of

their words sometimes the words of

their words sometimes the words of others to tell these stories and then

others to tell these stories and then

others to tell these stories and then tie it together with what this all means

tie it together with what this all means

tie it together with what this all means so let me begin since I’m the vice dean

so let me begin since I’m the vice dean

so let me begin since I’m the vice dean for education at the Carey Business

for education at the Carey Business

for education at the Carey Business School I wanted to start by talking

School I wanted to start by talking

School I wanted to start by talking about an MBA student am i mentoring with

about an MBA student am i mentoring with

about an MBA student am i mentoring with this MBA student emerged organically

this MBA student emerged organically

this MBA student emerged organically over time and it wasn’t even planned

over time and it wasn’t even planned

over time and it wasn’t even planned Taylor was a full-time MBA student in

Taylor was a full-time MBA student in

Taylor was a full-time MBA student in our program and she was the student of

our program and she was the student of

our program and she was the student of my health care financing class she also

my health care financing class she also

my health care financing class she also helped to run a one-day activity for

helped to run a one-day activity for

helped to run a one-day activity for middle school and high school students

middle school and high school students

middle school and high school students through the University’s Center for

through the University’s Center for

through the University’s Center for talented youth and those students might

talented youth and those students might

talented youth and those students might be interested in business so a year ago

be interested in business so a year ago

be interested in business so a year ago she finally landed her dream job and at

she finally landed her dream job and at

she finally landed her dream job and at the end of the year I was sending notes

the end of the year I was sending notes

the end of the year I was sending notes to people about my most memorable

to people about my most memorable

to people about my most memorable experience with them during 2016 and I

experience with them during 2016 and I

experience with them during 2016 and I said to Taylor the most memorable thing

said to Taylor the most memorable thing

said to Taylor the most memorable thing with you this year was being invited to

with you this year was being invited to

with you this year was being invited to your departure dinner from Baltimore she

your departure dinner from Baltimore she

your departure dinner from Baltimore she wrote back telling me that that was one

wrote back telling me that that was one

wrote back telling me that that was one of the most thoughtful notes anyone had

of the most thoughtful notes anyone had

of the most thoughtful notes anyone had ever written to her and she said that’s

ever written to her and she said that’s

ever written to her and she said that’s not all in my experience when I was

not all in my experience when I was

not all in my experience when I was looking for a job and I had turned one

looking for a job and I had turned one

looking for a job and I had turned one position down and having a hard time you

position down and having a hard time you

position down and having a hard time you not only invited me to networking

not only invited me to networking

not only invited me to networking breakfasts

breakfasts

breakfasts like what you see here but you also

like what you see here but you also

like what you see here but you also stayed on top of my job search process

stayed on top of my job search process

stayed on top of my job search process and really helped me you offered me

and really helped me you offered me

and really helped me you offered me advice one piece of advice I offered was

advice one piece of advice I offered was

advice one piece of advice I offered was you know Taylor I’ve known lots of

you know Taylor I’ve known lots of

you know Taylor I’ve known lots of people who have taken a long time to

people who have taken a long time to

people who have taken a long time to find their first job and usually when

find their first job and usually when

find their first job and usually when they finally find it after that waiting

they finally find it after that waiting

they finally find it after that waiting they’re happy because they love the job

they’re happy because they love the job

they’re happy because they love the job that they found so it’s okay and she

that they found so it’s okay and she

that they found so it’s okay and she said that I had made her feel like she

said that I had made her feel like she

said that I had made her feel like she wasn’t a loser which was how she was

wasn’t a loser which was how she was

wasn’t a loser which was how she was feeling at the time and they had given

feeling at the time and they had given

feeling at the time and they had given her confidence back now I know whether I

her confidence back now I know whether I

her confidence back now I know whether I deserve all that much credit for what I

deserve all that much credit for what I

deserve all that much credit for what I did which just seemed like it was

did which just seemed like it was

did which just seemed like it was natural thing to do

natural thing to do

natural thing to do but I appreciated her recognition of the

but I appreciated her recognition of the

but I appreciated her recognition of the difference that I’d made for her when I

difference that I’d made for her when I

difference that I’d made for her when I was talking with Taylor about giving

was talking with Taylor about giving

was talking with Taylor about giving this

this

this today she said you also have to tell

today she said you also have to tell

today she said you also have to tell them about what you’ve done for Lauren

them about what you’ve done for Lauren

them about what you’ve done for Lauren it’s not any much encouragement to talk

it’s not any much encouragement to talk

it’s not any much encouragement to talk about Lauren Lauren is a young attorney

about Lauren Lauren is a young attorney

about Lauren Lauren is a young attorney I met Lauren a number of years ago and

I met Lauren a number of years ago and

I met Lauren a number of years ago and for the past four years week in and week

for the past four years week in and week

for the past four years week in and week out we’ve run together almost every week

out we’ve run together almost every week

out we’ve run together almost every week for an hour at a time

for an hour at a time

for an hour at a time and during that time we spend a whole

and during that time we spend a whole

and during that time we spend a whole lot of time talking about all kinds of

lot of time talking about all kinds of

lot of time talking about all kinds of things in life and what started out as

things in life and what started out as

things in life and what started out as just a fun running friendship has turned

just a fun running friendship has turned

just a fun running friendship has turned into true mentorship I’ve invited her to

into true mentorship I’ve invited her to

into true mentorship I’ve invited her to networking breakfasts she’s come and

networking breakfasts she’s come and

networking breakfasts she’s come and seen how I’ve just Liat led my life and

seen how I’ve just Liat led my life and

seen how I’ve just Liat led my life and as a parent as a professor as someone in

as a parent as a professor as someone in

as a parent as a professor as someone in the community and I’ve had the

the community and I’ve had the

the community and I’ve had the opportunity to introduce her to people

opportunity to introduce her to people

opportunity to introduce her to people like say another parent on the hockey

like say another parent on the hockey

like say another parent on the hockey team who’s also an attorney and help

team who’s also an attorney and help

team who’s also an attorney and help Lauren see what might come next so

Lauren see what might come next so

Lauren see what might come next so Taylor is not the only one who’s told me

Taylor is not the only one who’s told me

Taylor is not the only one who’s told me how important I am in helping Lauren I

how important I am in helping Lauren I

how important I am in helping Lauren I introduced Lauren to a colleague they

introduced Lauren to a colleague they

introduced Lauren to a colleague they went out to one of the best ice cream

went out to one of the best ice cream

went out to one of the best ice cream shops and Baltimore and had a

shops and Baltimore and had a

shops and Baltimore and had a conversation colleague tells me

conversation colleague tells me

conversation colleague tells me afterwards it’s clear how much your

afterwards it’s clear how much your

afterwards it’s clear how much your relationship matters to learn and it’s a

relationship matters to learn and it’s a

relationship matters to learn and it’s a gift

gift

gift Carlin mother said that she appreciated

Carlin mother said that she appreciated

Carlin mother said that she appreciated how much I was there for Lauren and how

how much I was there for Lauren and how

how much I was there for Lauren and how Lauren appreciated my coming to see her

Lauren appreciated my coming to see her

Lauren appreciated my coming to see her law school graduation and being sworn in

law school graduation and being sworn in

law school graduation and being sworn in to the State Bar Lauren herself when I

to the State Bar Lauren herself when I

to the State Bar Lauren herself when I introduced her to someone is someone

introduced her to someone is someone

introduced her to someone is someone with whom I run she quickly added and on

with whom I run she quickly added and on

with whom I run she quickly added and on someone who Kevin Mentors

someone who Kevin Mentors

someone who Kevin Mentors and on the day she got sworn in to the

and on the day she got sworn in to the

and on the day she got sworn in to the bar she introduced me to the judge for

bar she introduced me to the judge for

bar she introduced me to the judge for whom she’s clerking and said this is one

whom she’s clerking and said this is one

whom she’s clerking and said this is one of my mentors that repeated introduction

of my mentors that repeated introduction

of my mentors that repeated introduction as mentor meant an awful lot to me to

as mentor meant an awful lot to me to

as mentor meant an awful lot to me to hear how important that was and it

hear how important that was and it

hear how important that was and it really made true that it’s in giving

really made true that it’s in giving

really made true that it’s in giving that I received something back now

that I received something back now

that I received something back now Lara’s not the only one who’s introduced

Lara’s not the only one who’s introduced

Lara’s not the only one who’s introduced me as mentor in a way that meant a lot

me as mentor in a way that meant a lot

me as mentor in a way that meant a lot to me

to me

to me this is Kelsey I met Kelsey when she was

this is Kelsey I met Kelsey when she was

this is Kelsey I met Kelsey when she was in high school she’s a flute player she

in high school she’s a flute player she

in high school she’s a flute player she left for college in the fall of 2014 and

left for college in the fall of 2014 and

left for college in the fall of 2014 and I’ve seen her just twice since then most

I’ve seen her just twice since then most

I’ve seen her just twice since then most recent time just before the new year

recent time just before the new year

recent time just before the new year this year and I saw her play at a

this year and I saw her play at a

this year and I saw her play at a benefit concert I went up to talk Terry

benefit concert I went up to talk Terry

benefit concert I went up to talk Terry afterwards and she introduced me saying

afterwards and she introduced me saying

afterwards and she introduced me saying Kevin is one of the biggest mentors I’ve

Kevin is one of the biggest mentors I’ve

Kevin is one of the biggest mentors I’ve ever had again that wasn’t how I got to

ever had again that wasn’t how I got to

ever had again that wasn’t how I got to know her originally so that was very

know her originally so that was very

know her originally so that was very meaningful to me and I responded with

meaningful to me and I responded with

meaningful to me and I responded with her by email afterwards as she said you

her by email afterwards as she said you

her by email afterwards as she said you know you’ve always supported me you’ve

know you’ve always supported me you’ve

know you’ve always supported me you’ve been a great help and even though we

been a great help and even though we

been a great help and even though we don’t see each other in person all it

don’t see each other in person all it

don’t see each other in person all it often you still a very positive

often you still a very positive

often you still a very positive influence on my life so that meant a lot

influence on my life so that meant a lot

influence on my life so that meant a lot now it’s not only in my

now it’s not only in my

now it’s not only in my personal life that I end up with

personal life that I end up with

personal life that I end up with unplanned mentoring some of the people

unplanned mentoring some of the people

unplanned mentoring some of the people who report directly to me I just manage

who report directly to me I just manage

who report directly to me I just manage but this is Mindy and Mindy is someone

but this is Mindy and Mindy is someone

but this is Mindy and Mindy is someone who I truly had a chance to mentor we’ve

who I truly had a chance to mentor we’ve

who I truly had a chance to mentor we’ve each had numerous serendipitous turns in

each had numerous serendipitous turns in

each had numerous serendipitous turns in our career that turned out for the

our career that turned out for the

our career that turned out for the better and one of those turns brought us

better and one of those turns brought us

better and one of those turns brought us together to work on the school’s

together to work on the school’s

together to work on the school’s accreditation so two years day in and

accreditation so two years day in and

accreditation so two years day in and day out we worked to get the school

day out we worked to get the school

day out we worked to get the school ready for accreditation and we were

ready for accreditation and we were

ready for accreditation and we were successful and at the end of that set of

successful and at the end of that set of

successful and at the end of that set of activities I said to her you know Mindy

activities I said to her you know Mindy

activities I said to her you know Mindy I’m glad I had a chance to work with you

I’m glad I had a chance to work with you

I’m glad I had a chance to work with you and open up your eyes to all kinds of

and open up your eyes to all kinds of

and open up your eyes to all kinds of things you might not have even seen in

things you might not have even seen in

things you might not have even seen in your career before his new possibilities

your career before his new possibilities

your career before his new possibilities and she appreciated the mentoring that

and she appreciated the mentoring that

and she appreciated the mentoring that I’d provided as well one of the things

I’d provided as well one of the things

I’d provided as well one of the things that I did was I forced a meeting with

that I did was I forced a meeting with

that I did was I forced a meeting with someone who has a job similar to hers

someone who has a job similar to hers

someone who has a job similar to hers but at the university level rather than

but at the university level rather than

but at the university level rather than the school level and it wasn’t the first

the school level and it wasn’t the first

the school level and it wasn’t the first time she met this person but we’ve got

time she met this person but we’ve got

time she met this person but we’ve got to talk about big picture strategy what

to talk about big picture strategy what

to talk about big picture strategy what might come next and we at least alluded

might come next and we at least alluded

might come next and we at least alluded to mentoring now this other person

to mentoring now this other person

to mentoring now this other person didn’t say of course I’ll mentor you

didn’t say of course I’ll mentor you

didn’t say of course I’ll mentor you Mindy but afterwards I talked with Mindy

Mindy but afterwards I talked with Mindy

Mindy but afterwards I talked with Mindy and I said you know go meet her a few

and I said you know go meet her a few

and I said you know go meet her a few more times

more times

more times see if she offers you advice see if what

see if she offers you advice see if what

see if she offers you advice see if what might begin as an informal mentoring

might begin as an informal mentoring

might begin as an informal mentoring could evolve into something as you go

could evolve into something as you go

could evolve into something as you go along and Mindy appreciated getting that

along and Mindy appreciated getting that

along and Mindy appreciated getting that advice recognizing that people don’t

advice recognizing that people don’t

advice recognizing that people don’t always jump at the first opportunity to

always jump at the first opportunity to

always jump at the first opportunity to mentor someone else I just hope I get to

mentor someone else I just hope I get to

mentor someone else I just hope I get to continue working with her continuing

continue working with her continuing

continue working with her continuing mentoring her and continue to find other

mentoring her and continue to find other

mentoring her and continue to find other people who might meant to her so she can

people who might meant to her so she can

people who might meant to her so she can be all that she aspires to be in her

be all that she aspires to be in her

be all that she aspires to be in her career this is Elizabeth another

career this is Elizabeth another

career this is Elizabeth another workplace example when I got promoted to

workplace example when I got promoted to

workplace example when I got promoted to full professor when I was back at the

full professor when I was back at the

full professor when I was back at the Bloomberg School of Public Health

Bloomberg School of Public Health

Bloomberg School of Public Health I recognized they gave me great

I recognized they gave me great

I recognized they gave me great mentoring when I was an assistant

mentoring when I was an assistant

mentoring when I was an assistant professor great mentoring as an

professor great mentoring as an

professor great mentoring as an associate professor but no mentoring

associate professor but no mentoring

associate professor but no mentoring when you’re a full professor and so

when you’re a full professor and so

when you’re a full professor and so Elizabeth and I talked to each other and

Elizabeth and I talked to each other and

Elizabeth and I talked to each other and she was a couple years ahead of me in

she was a couple years ahead of me in

she was a couple years ahead of me in her career he said you know maybe we

her career he said you know maybe we

her career he said you know maybe we should be peer mentors so now we see

should be peer mentors so now we see

should be peer mentors so now we see each other maybe just once or twice a

each other maybe just once or twice a

each other maybe just once or twice a year in person for coffee or lunch but

year in person for coffee or lunch but

year in person for coffee or lunch but we recognize that the other is no more

we recognize that the other is no more

we recognize that the other is no more than a phone call away if we need advice

than a phone call away if we need advice

than a phone call away if we need advice on something and we’ve done that

on something and we’ve done that

on something and we’ve done that multiple times she’s helped me think

multiple times she’s helped me think

multiple times she’s helped me think about what might be my next step after

about what might be my next step after

about what might be my next step after vice dean and how might I get there and

vice dean and how might I get there and

vice dean and how might I get there and I’ve helped her think about maybe she

I’ve helped her think about maybe she

I’ve helped her think about maybe she doesn’t need to become the next thing

doesn’t need to become the next thing

doesn’t need to become the next thing maybe she can just keep doing what she’s

maybe she can just keep doing what she’s

maybe she can just keep doing what she’s doing now but do it better and in new

doing now but do it better and in new

doing now but do it better and in new ways mentor more PhD students mentor

ways mentor more PhD students mentor

ways mentor more PhD students mentor more junior faculty bring together

more junior faculty bring together

more junior faculty bring together research

research

research in different areas to make connections

in different areas to make connections

in different areas to make connections that wouldn’t have been made before and

that wouldn’t have been made before and

that wouldn’t have been made before and have her impact that way so those are

have her impact that way so those are

have her impact that way so those are interesting relationships that emerged

interesting relationships that emerged

interesting relationships that emerged organically sometimes relationships are

organically sometimes relationships are

organically sometimes relationships are set up to be mentoring in the first

set up to be mentoring in the first

set up to be mentoring in the first place this is Molly

place this is Molly

place this is Molly Molly’s an undergraduate senior in the

Molly’s an undergraduate senior in the

Molly’s an undergraduate senior in the economics department at Johns Hopkins

economics department at Johns Hopkins

economics department at Johns Hopkins she was introduced to me by one of her

she was introduced to me by one of her

she was introduced to me by one of her friends with a phrase like Kevin’s

friends with a phrase like Kevin’s

friends with a phrase like Kevin’s somebody who’s always great to talk to

somebody who’s always great to talk to

somebody who’s always great to talk to again a flattering way to be introduced

again a flattering way to be introduced

again a flattering way to be introduced to someone and Molly and I have had a

to someone and Molly and I have had a

to someone and Molly and I have had a couple in-person conversations the first

couple in-person conversations the first

couple in-person conversations the first one was an hour she said here’s my set

one was an hour she said here’s my set

one was an hour she said here’s my set of interest helped me think about this

of interest helped me think about this

of interest helped me think about this and I did and then a couple months later

and I did and then a couple months later

and I did and then a couple months later so I’m having an existential crisis I

so I’m having an existential crisis I

so I’m having an existential crisis I don’t know what I’m gonna do after I

don’t know what I’m gonna do after I

don’t know what I’m gonna do after I graduate we probably all felt that way

graduate we probably all felt that way

graduate we probably all felt that way at some point and we talked and I set

at some point and we talked and I set

at some point and we talked and I set her up to talk to one of my former PhD

her up to talk to one of my former PhD

her up to talk to one of my former PhD students who is an economist working in

students who is an economist working in

students who is an economist working in the real world and that helps her to get

the real world and that helps her to get

the real world and that helps her to get an understanding of what do economists

an understanding of what do economists

an understanding of what do economists really do once they have their degrees

really do once they have their degrees

really do once they have their degrees recently she had a opportunity to

recently she had a opportunity to

recently she had a opportunity to interview with a firm that actually

interview with a firm that actually

interview with a firm that actually works in health economics she got the

works in health economics she got the

works in health economics she got the job offer and it’s looking like she’s

job offer and it’s looking like she’s

job offer and it’s looking like she’s going to move to Denver to take the job

going to move to Denver to take the job

going to move to Denver to take the job so it was nice to be able to have that

so it was nice to be able to have that

so it was nice to be able to have that impact now she’s not the only

impact now she’s not the only

impact now she’s not the only undergraduate I mentor I mentor to

undergraduate I mentor I mentor to

undergraduate I mentor I mentor to undergraduates at Penn State my

undergraduates at Penn State my

undergraduates at Penn State my undergraduate alma mater

undergraduate alma mater

undergraduate alma mater this is ramesha I first met Maurice at

this is ramesha I first met Maurice at

this is ramesha I first met Maurice at Rome ISA when she was introduced on the

Rome ISA when she was introduced on the

Rome ISA when she was introduced on the old Schreyer Honors College Dean’s

old Schreyer Honors College Dean’s

old Schreyer Honors College Dean’s Facebook page started in Bangladesh came

Facebook page started in Bangladesh came

Facebook page started in Bangladesh came to Penn State at one of their branch

to Penn State at one of their branch

to Penn State at one of their branch campuses eventually moved to their main

campuses eventually moved to their main

campuses eventually moved to their main campus she’s a biomedical engineering

campus she’s a biomedical engineering

campus she’s a biomedical engineering major and I wrote her I found her in the

major and I wrote her I found her in the

major and I wrote her I found her in the Penn State directory wrote a little

Penn State directory wrote a little

Penn State directory wrote a little email to her said how are you doing now

email to her said how are you doing now

email to her said how are you doing now that you’ve you know gotten all this

that you’ve you know gotten all this

that you’ve you know gotten all this attention she said you know I’m still

attention she said you know I’m still

attention she said you know I’m still having my ups and downs I said okay well

having my ups and downs I said okay well

having my ups and downs I said okay well you know I can try to be an informal

you know I can try to be an informal

you know I can try to be an informal mentor for you so for the last year

mentor for you so for the last year

mentor for you so for the last year we’ve corresponded you know I’ve helped

we’ve corresponded you know I’ve helped

we’ve corresponded you know I’ve helped her to remain confident about what’s

her to remain confident about what’s

her to remain confident about what’s going to come next

going to come next

going to come next I’ve helped her to see what

I’ve helped her to see what

I’ve helped her to see what opportunities there may be with her

opportunities there may be with her

opportunities there may be with her degree and she’s you know very happy to

degree and she’s you know very happy to

degree and she’s you know very happy to have someone just bounce ideas off of

have someone just bounce ideas off of

have someone just bounce ideas off of I’ve also introduced her to my other

I’ve also introduced her to my other

I’ve also introduced her to my other undergraduate personal mentor and this

undergraduate personal mentor and this

undergraduate personal mentor and this is marine marine was introduced to me

is marine marine was introduced to me

is marine marine was introduced to me through a formal Honors College

through a formal Honors College

through a formal Honors College mentoring process as an alumnus of the

mentoring process as an alumnus of the

mentoring process as an alumnus of the Honors College and the first time I

Honors College and the first time I

Honors College and the first time I talked to the range said you just make

talked to the range said you just make

talked to the range said you just make me feel completely comfortable when I’m

me feel completely comfortable when I’m

me feel completely comfortable when I’m talking to you again that’s a very

talking to you again that’s a very

talking to you again that’s a very flattering statement to hear about

flattering statement to hear about

flattering statement to hear about myself and I

myself and I

myself and I she ate that feed back and she said she

she ate that feed back and she said she

she ate that feed back and she said she had other mentors who hadn’t made her

had other mentors who hadn’t made her

had other mentors who hadn’t made her feel that way in the six months or so

feel that way in the six months or so

feel that way in the six months or so that we’ve been corresponding back and

that we’ve been corresponding back and

that we’ve been corresponding back and forth I also did a Skype session with

forth I also did a Skype session with

forth I also did a Skype session with her where I helped her anticipate what

her where I helped her anticipate what

her where I helped her anticipate what types of questions she might get in her

types of questions she might get in her

types of questions she might get in her interviews for her summer internships

interviews for her summer internships

interviews for her summer internships that she’s gotten a couple offers from

that she’s gotten a couple offers from

that she’s gotten a couple offers from those so again I am very glad that I was

those so again I am very glad that I was

those so again I am very glad that I was able to make that difference now I have

able to make that difference now I have

able to make that difference now I have a history of mentoring people in the

a history of mentoring people in the

a history of mentoring people in the Schreyer Honors College and this is

Schreyer Honors College and this is

Schreyer Honors College and this is Rachel Rachel is one of the first people

Rachel Rachel is one of the first people

Rachel Rachel is one of the first people I ever mentored in the Schreyer Honors

I ever mentored in the Schreyer Honors

I ever mentored in the Schreyer Honors College introduced to her in the fall of

College introduced to her in the fall of

College introduced to her in the fall of 2009 first time I met her in person I

2009 first time I met her in person I

2009 first time I met her in person I was up at Penn State met her after a

was up at Penn State met her after a

was up at Penn State met her after a class we’re walking to the ice cream

class we’re walking to the ice cream

class we’re walking to the ice cream store on campus and she tells me I want

store on campus and she tells me I want

store on campus and she tells me I want to be a bio behavioral health and music

to be a bio behavioral health and music

to be a bio behavioral health and music composition double major and become a

composition double major and become a

composition double major and become a physician so I have to admit I scratched

physician so I have to admit I scratched

physician so I have to admit I scratched my head for a moment on that one and I

my head for a moment on that one and I

my head for a moment on that one and I said so what do you want to do open up a

said so what do you want to do open up a

said so what do you want to do open up a music therapy practice someday she kind

music therapy practice someday she kind

music therapy practice someday she kind of chuckled at that and I said you know

of chuckled at that and I said you know

of chuckled at that and I said you know I’m just trying to open your eyes to how

I’m just trying to open your eyes to how

I’m just trying to open your eyes to how you might make connections in ways you

you might make connections in ways you

you might make connections in ways you hadn’t thought about otherwise she

hadn’t thought about otherwise she

hadn’t thought about otherwise she appreciated that and after many

appreciated that and after many

appreciated that and after many discussions and many decisions she

discussions and many decisions she

discussions and many decisions she actually evolved over time to take a job

actually evolved over time to take a job

actually evolved over time to take a job at a professional organization that does

at a professional organization that does

at a professional organization that does Health Services Research and policy

Health Services Research and policy

Health Services Research and policy which is what I was doing when I met her

which is what I was doing when I met her

which is what I was doing when I met her I didn’t force her down that path but I

I didn’t force her down that path but I

I didn’t force her down that path but I was honored to serve as a guide as she

was honored to serve as a guide as she

was honored to serve as a guide as she went down that path and evolved over

went down that path and evolved over

went down that path and evolved over time and she appreciates the almost

time and she appreciates the almost

time and she appreciates the almost eight years now that we’ve known each

eight years now that we’ve known each

eight years now that we’ve known each other and the fact that I share back

other and the fact that I share back

other and the fact that I share back with her all the things that I’ve

with her all the things that I’ve

with her all the things that I’ve learned from her along the way as well

learned from her along the way as well

learned from her along the way as well as helping to guide her in her decisions

as helping to guide her in her decisions

as helping to guide her in her decisions I also want to talk about a one-off

I also want to talk about a one-off

I also want to talk about a one-off mentoring relationship so I decided late

mentoring relationship so I decided late

mentoring relationship so I decided late to run the Baltimore marathon in the

to run the Baltimore marathon in the

to run the Baltimore marathon in the fall of 2016 I wanted one of these cool

fall of 2016 I wanted one of these cool

fall of 2016 I wanted one of these cool crab medals that they were handing out

crab medals that they were handing out

crab medals that they were handing out and so it was late enough in the process

and so it was late enough in the process

and so it was late enough in the process that I wasn’t gonna train much harder

that I wasn’t gonna train much harder

that I wasn’t gonna train much harder and I said I could probably run about

and I said I could probably run about

and I said I could probably run about three hours and 30 minutes it was my

three hours and 30 minutes it was my

three hours and 30 minutes it was my ninth marathon so Elizabeth is in a

ninth marathon so Elizabeth is in a

ninth marathon so Elizabeth is in a running group that I’m in I knew it was

running group that I’m in I knew it was

running group that I’m in I knew it was going to be her first I said Elizabeth

going to be her first I said Elizabeth

going to be her first I said Elizabeth what time do you want to run she said

what time do you want to run she said

what time do you want to run she said about 3:30 I said great I’m planning to

about 3:30 I said great I’m planning to

about 3:30 I said great I’m planning to run that time do you want to run with me

run that time do you want to run with me

run that time do you want to run with me and she said sure I’d love to have the

and she said sure I’d love to have the

and she said sure I’d love to have the company so for three hours 28 minutes

company so for three hours 28 minutes

company so for three hours 28 minutes and 26 seconds we ran side-by-side and

and 26 seconds we ran side-by-side and

and 26 seconds we ran side-by-side and finished the marathon together and it

finished the marathon together and it

finished the marathon together and it was humbling to think that I had helped

was humbling to think that I had helped

was humbling to think that I had helped her not only to achieve her goal but

her not only to achieve her goal but

her not only to achieve her goal but her goal that I’d haven’t done much

her goal that I’d haven’t done much

her goal that I’d haven’t done much mentoring for her other net but I did

mentoring for her other net but I did

mentoring for her other net but I did offer a four pieces of advice for the

offer a four pieces of advice for the

offer a four pieces of advice for the race that I think are good pieces of

race that I think are good pieces of

race that I think are good pieces of advice for mentoring in general don’t

advice for mentoring in general don’t

advice for mentoring in general don’t start too fast once you’re comfortable

start too fast once you’re comfortable

start too fast once you’re comfortable it’s okay to speed up work through those

it’s okay to speed up work through those

it’s okay to speed up work through those hills in the middle of the race and when

hills in the middle of the race and when

hills in the middle of the race and when you’re close to the finish you can’t

you’re close to the finish you can’t

you’re close to the finish you can’t give up she appreciated both the advice

give up she appreciated both the advice

give up she appreciated both the advice and the companionship during the run and

and the companionship during the run and

and the companionship during the run and I said well do one thing for me then I

I said well do one thing for me then I

I said well do one thing for me then I was paying forward somebody two years

was paying forward somebody two years

was paying forward somebody two years earlier running with me for my best

earlier running with me for my best

earlier running with me for my best marathon anybody ever asks you to run a

marathon anybody ever asks you to run a

marathon anybody ever asks you to run a marathon with him return the favor so

marathon with him return the favor so

marathon with him return the favor so I’d also like to share just a couple of

I’d also like to share just a couple of

I’d also like to share just a couple of other facts about mentoring this is a

other facts about mentoring this is a

other facts about mentoring this is a thank-you note from one of my last mph

thank-you note from one of my last mph

thank-you note from one of my last mph students I shared with her five words

students I shared with her five words

students I shared with her five words that were really motivating in my life

that were really motivating in my life

that were really motivating in my life she bought me the stones with the words

she bought me the stones with the words

she bought me the stones with the words on them and sent me a thank-you note

on them and sent me a thank-you note

on them and sent me a thank-you note describing how she saw me live out each

describing how she saw me live out each

describing how she saw me live out each of those words it was really touching to

of those words it was really touching to

of those words it was really touching to have someone do that for me and reflect

have someone do that for me and reflect

have someone do that for me and reflect on how she could see those words in her

on how she could see those words in her

on how she could see those words in her own life I’ve also had a couple MBA

own life I’ve also had a couple MBA

own life I’ve also had a couple MBA students tell me amazing things like you

students tell me amazing things like you

students tell me amazing things like you said an example for me as I go on to

said an example for me as I go on to

said an example for me as I go on to pursue my PhD or you’re a great

pursue my PhD or you’re a great

pursue my PhD or you’re a great connector and clearly that’s helped you

connector and clearly that’s helped you

connector and clearly that’s helped you in your career

in your career

in your career and I have a junior research colleague

and I have a junior research colleague

and I have a junior research colleague who told me that my support during her

who told me that my support during her

who told me that my support during her time of uncertainty was sustaining for

time of uncertainty was sustaining for

time of uncertainty was sustaining for her these are all just comments that you

her these are all just comments that you

her these are all just comments that you know it’s helped me understand what it

know it’s helped me understand what it

know it’s helped me understand what it means to be perceived as a good mentor

means to be perceived as a good mentor

means to be perceived as a good mentor to others so how do I tie this all

to others so how do I tie this all

to others so how do I tie this all together in a meaningful way

together in a meaningful way

together in a meaningful way first thing is enthusiasm I think my

first thing is enthusiasm I think my

first thing is enthusiasm I think my enthusiasm makes me more approachable as

enthusiasm makes me more approachable as

enthusiasm makes me more approachable as a mentor I don’t just get excited about

a mentor I don’t just get excited about

a mentor I don’t just get excited about mentoring when I’m up here giving a TEDx

mentoring when I’m up here giving a TEDx

mentoring when I’m up here giving a TEDx talk I get excited about mentoring

talk I get excited about mentoring

talk I get excited about mentoring whenever I talk about it it’s so

whenever I talk about it it’s so

whenever I talk about it it’s so essential in my life that when I ran a

essential in my life that when I ran a

essential in my life that when I ran a 2-person marathon relay one time with

2-person marathon relay one time with

2-person marathon relay one time with that last MPH student of mine we named

that last MPH student of mine we named

that last MPH student of mine we named our team who’s the mentor because I had

our team who’s the mentor because I had

our team who’s the mentor because I had mentored her in public health and she

mentored her in public health and she

mentored her in public health and she had mentioned me about running I love it

had mentioned me about running I love it

had mentioned me about running I love it when my mentees get a chance to meet

when my mentees get a chance to meet

when my mentees get a chance to meet each other especially having introduced

each other especially having introduced

each other especially having introduced from ISA and Noreen they sent me this

from ISA and Noreen they sent me this

from ISA and Noreen they sent me this great picture of the two of them it’s

great picture of the two of them it’s

great picture of the two of them it’s like probably exchanging notes about me

like probably exchanging notes about me

like probably exchanging notes about me I’m not sure what they said but

I’m not sure what they said but

I’m not sure what they said but hopefully good things and it’s just

hopefully good things and it’s just

hopefully good things and it’s just really exciting to think about what

really exciting to think about what

really exciting to think about what enthusiasm can do because I was at a

enthusiasm can do because I was at a

enthusiasm can do because I was at a Carey women in business conversation

Carey women in business conversation

Carey women in business conversation where somebody said well I actually had

where somebody said well I actually had

where somebody said well I actually had to ask somebody to mention me one time

to ask somebody to mention me one time

to ask somebody to mention me one time and it felt like asking somebody to prom

and it felt like asking somebody to prom

and it felt like asking somebody to prom it shouldn’t feel that hard

it shouldn’t feel that hard

it shouldn’t feel that hard if the person is really excited and

if the person is really excited and

if the person is really excited and enthusiastic about mentoring second

enthusiastic about mentoring second

enthusiastic about mentoring second characteristic and my successful

characteristic and my successful

characteristic and my successful mentoring relationships is empathy I

mentoring relationships is empathy I

mentoring relationships is empathy I think that empathy also helps to make me

think that empathy also helps to make me

think that empathy also helps to make me approachable because I have a former

approachable because I have a former

approachable because I have a former direct report to me who said you’re the

direct report to me who said you’re the

direct report to me who said you’re the most empathetic supervisor I’ve ever had

most empathetic supervisor I’ve ever had

most empathetic supervisor I’ve ever had don’t lose that characteristic and I

don’t lose that characteristic and I

don’t lose that characteristic and I take that advice and that recognition to

take that advice and that recognition to

take that advice and that recognition to heart empathy is something again makes

heart empathy is something again makes

heart empathy is something again makes me more approachable because I’ve had my

me more approachable because I’ve had my

me more approachable because I’ve had my own ups and downs I had and still have

own ups and downs I had and still have

own ups and downs I had and still have massive uncertainties in my life and I’m

massive uncertainties in my life and I’m

massive uncertainties in my life and I’m just human and I let my mentees know

just human and I let my mentees know

just human and I let my mentees know that the third thing is curiosity okay

that the third thing is curiosity okay

that the third thing is curiosity okay until I’m entered Lauren I didn’t know a

until I’m entered Lauren I didn’t know a

until I’m entered Lauren I didn’t know a thing about being a law student or

thing about being a law student or

thing about being a law student or taking the bar or being an attorney but

taking the bar or being an attorney but

taking the bar or being an attorney but when you run with somebody every week

when you run with somebody every week

when you run with somebody every week for their three years of law school you

for their three years of law school you

for their three years of law school you learn an awful lot about being a law

learn an awful lot about being a law

learn an awful lot about being a law student I didn’t know the first thing

student I didn’t know the first thing

student I didn’t know the first thing about baroque flute until I mentored

about baroque flute until I mentored

about baroque flute until I mentored Kelsey and I’ve learned things about

Kelsey and I’ve learned things about

Kelsey and I’ve learned things about flute as well curiosity is key because

flute as well curiosity is key because

flute as well curiosity is key because I’m not an expert in everything but I

I’m not an expert in everything but I

I’m not an expert in everything but I think I can mentor pretty people pretty

think I can mentor pretty people pretty

think I can mentor pretty people pretty well no matter what they’re doing but my

well no matter what they’re doing but my

well no matter what they’re doing but my lifelong love of learning and my

lifelong love of learning and my

lifelong love of learning and my curiosity gives me the opportunity to

curiosity gives me the opportunity to

curiosity gives me the opportunity to learn about their passions and offer

learn about their passions and offer

learn about their passions and offer them useful advice back then there’s

them useful advice back then there’s

them useful advice back then there’s connections of course it helps to have

connections of course it helps to have

connections of course it helps to have connections I gave the example of

connections I gave the example of

connections I gave the example of setting Lauren up to talk with another

setting Lauren up to talk with another

setting Lauren up to talk with another attorney who I know but I also like

attorney who I know but I also like

attorney who I know but I also like dreaming up in making new connections

dreaming up in making new connections

dreaming up in making new connections one of those networking breakfasts one

one of those networking breakfasts one

one of those networking breakfasts one side of me I’ve got the student who said

side of me I’ve got the student who said

side of me I’ve got the student who said you’re a great connector the other side

you’re a great connector the other side

you’re a great connector the other side of me across the table I’ve got a

of me across the table I’ve got a

of me across the table I’ve got a gentleman who’s working in a family

gentleman who’s working in a family

gentleman who’s working in a family stabilization organization working with

stabilization organization working with

stabilization organization working with Baltimore City Public Schools he says

Baltimore City Public Schools he says

Baltimore City Public Schools he says you know I need some more managerial

you know I need some more managerial

you know I need some more managerial skills maybe I should get an MBA well

skills maybe I should get an MBA well

skills maybe I should get an MBA well just so happens that that former MBA

just so happens that that former MBA

just so happens that that former MBA student is working for a local

student is working for a local

student is working for a local not-for-profit that finds talent and

not-for-profit that finds talent and

not-for-profit that finds talent and places it in other local not-for-profits

places it in other local not-for-profits

places it in other local not-for-profits and she earned her MBA along the way I

and she earned her MBA along the way I

and she earned her MBA along the way I said you two really ought to talk to

said you two really ought to talk to

said you two really ought to talk to each other and so I can’t always finish

each other and so I can’t always finish

each other and so I can’t always finish building the bridge but anytime there’s

building the bridge but anytime there’s

building the bridge but anytime there’s an opportunity to build a bridge I like

an opportunity to build a bridge I like

an opportunity to build a bridge I like to make sure I start and finally there’s

to make sure I start and finally there’s

to make sure I start and finally there’s vulnerability I have to let myself be

vulnerability I have to let myself be

vulnerability I have to let myself be vulnerable to be a good mentor I don’t

vulnerable to be a good mentor I don’t

vulnerable to be a good mentor I don’t know whether everybody’s gonna like my

know whether everybody’s gonna like my

know whether everybody’s gonna like my type of mentoring they might or might

type of mentoring they might or might

type of mentoring they might or might not those who do are they going to take

not those who do are they going to take

not those who do are they going to take every piece of advice I offer probably

every piece of advice I offer probably

every piece of advice I offer probably not if they do is that always going to

not if they do is that always going to

not if they do is that always going to work I can assure you it’s not

work I can assure you it’s not

work I can assure you it’s not and even if it does work are they always

and even if it does work are they always

and even if it does work are they always going to go to the direction that I

going to go to the direction that I

going to go to the direction that I would have suggested again probably not

would have suggested again probably not

would have suggested again probably not all of those things I can’t let bother

all of those things I can’t let bother

all of those things I can’t let bother me the joy is in developing the

me the joy is in developing the

me the joy is in developing the relationship the joy is in seeing that

relationship the joy is in seeing that

relationship the joy is in seeing that they’re trying and the joy isn’t seeing

they’re trying and the joy isn’t seeing

they’re trying and the joy isn’t seeing their success whatever that means

their success whatever that means

their success whatever that means how do I tie this all together okay I

how do I tie this all together okay I

how do I tie this all together okay I tie it all together with this statement

tie it all together with this statement

tie it all together with this statement my successful mentoring experiences are

my successful mentoring experiences are

my successful mentoring experiences are ones in which I commit myself to be

ones in which I commit myself to be

ones in which I commit myself to be vulnerable and use my enthusiasm and

vulnerable and use my enthusiasm and

vulnerable and use my enthusiasm and empathy as well as my curiosity and

empathy as well as my curiosity and

empathy as well as my curiosity and connections to facilitate my mentees

connections to facilitate my mentees

connections to facilitate my mentees development in the hope that she will do

development in the hope that she will do

development in the hope that she will do the same for someone else in the future

the same for someone else in the future

the same for someone else in the future or a lot more simply and where I began

or a lot more simply and where I began

or a lot more simply and where I began commit to make a difference for one that

commit to make a difference for one that

commit to make a difference for one that will be translated into a difference for

will be translated into a difference for

will be translated into a difference for others what I want you to do with all

others what I want you to do with all

others what I want you to do with all this couple things I’ve given you my

this couple things I’ve given you my

this couple things I’ve given you my model for mentoring but I’m not saying

model for mentoring but I’m not saying

model for mentoring but I’m not saying this is the model that’s going to work

this is the model that’s going to work

this is the model that’s going to work for everybody but if you’re looking to

for everybody but if you’re looking to

for everybody but if you’re looking to be a mentor or need mentoring think

be a mentor or need mentoring think

be a mentor or need mentoring think about what is the model that works for

about what is the model that works for

about what is the model that works for you when you figured out that model

you when you figured out that model

you when you figured out that model recognize that not all mentoring

recognize that not all mentoring

recognize that not all mentoring relationships need to be formal some of

relationships need to be formal some of

relationships need to be formal some of the most exciting ones that I described

the most exciting ones that I described

the most exciting ones that I described to you were the informal mentoring

to you were the informal mentoring

to you were the informal mentoring relationships you’re at least ones who

relationships you’re at least ones who

relationships you’re at least ones who started informally and recognized there

started informally and recognized there

started informally and recognized there might be all kinds of people out there

might be all kinds of people out there

might be all kinds of people out there who can help you even if you don’t label

who can help you even if you don’t label

who can help you even if you don’t label them mentor sometimes you need to make

them mentor sometimes you need to make

them mentor sometimes you need to make that transition from informal to formal

that transition from informal to formal

that transition from informal to formal to make the mentoring more meaningful

to make the mentoring more meaningful

to make the mentoring more meaningful and if you need to do that don’t be

and if you need to do that don’t be

and if you need to do that don’t be afraid to ask somebody to take that next

afraid to ask somebody to take that next

afraid to ask somebody to take that next step and formalize it and hopefully it

step and formalize it and hopefully it

step and formalize it and hopefully it is easier than asking somebody to prom

is easier than asking somebody to prom

is easier than asking somebody to prom and then finally whether it’s formal or

and then finally whether it’s formal or

and then finally whether it’s formal or informal if you have people who have

informal if you have people who have

informal if you have people who have helped to in your development and

helped to in your development and

helped to in your development and advance your development tell them what

advance your development tell them what

advance your development tell them what it means to you

it means to you

it means to you because I can assure you it will be as

because I can assure you it will be as

because I can assure you it will be as meaningful for them and they will feel

meaningful for them and they will feel

meaningful for them and they will feel like they have received a gift as a gift

like they have received a gift as a gift

like they have received a gift as a gift that they’ve given you through mentoring

that they’ve given you through mentoring

that they’ve given you through mentoring thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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