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I’m Tim this is hibiscus syriacus or you

I’m Tim this is hibiscus syriacus or you might know it as Rose of Sharon this is

might know it as Rose of Sharon this is

might know it as Rose of Sharon this is a Brassica oleracea or better known as

a Brassica oleracea or better known as

a Brassica oleracea or better known as broccoli it’s the flower of a broccoli

broccoli it’s the flower of a broccoli

broccoli it’s the flower of a broccoli plant it’s the part we eat and the

plant it’s the part we eat and the

plant it’s the part we eat and the flashes are from Lights changing inside

flashes are from Lights changing inside

flashes are from Lights changing inside of an indoor farm so I have somewhat of

of an indoor farm so I have somewhat of

of an indoor farm so I have somewhat of a unique relationship with these plants

a unique relationship with these plants

a unique relationship with these plants and I suppose plants in general I’m a

and I suppose plants in general I’m a

and I suppose plants in general I’m a biology researcher and an engineer and

biology researcher and an engineer and

biology researcher and an engineer and the work that I do with them might best

the work that I do with them might best

the work that I do with them might best be described as decoding plants or if I

be described as decoding plants or if I

be described as decoding plants or if I could borrow the the title of this block

could borrow the the title of this block

could borrow the the title of this block decoding how plants express themselves

decoding how plants express themselves

decoding how plants express themselves so before I dive into that work I just

so before I dive into that work I just

so before I dive into that work I just want to thank everybody at Ted for

want to thank everybody at Ted for

want to thank everybody at Ted for giving me another opportunity to wear a

giving me another opportunity to wear a

giving me another opportunity to wear a microphone along my ear it was precisely

microphone along my ear it was precisely

microphone along my ear it was precisely five years ago that I dressed is uh

five years ago that I dressed is uh

five years ago that I dressed is uh Justin Bieber as for Halloween and it’s

Justin Bieber as for Halloween and it’s

Justin Bieber as for Halloween and it’s just such a great look for me I just

just such a great look for me I just

just such a great look for me I just appreciate it so thank you Ted but back

appreciate it so thank you Ted but back

appreciate it so thank you Ted but back to plants

so my professional relationship with

so my professional relationship with plants started a few years ago when I

plants started a few years ago when I

plants started a few years ago when I was doing research as part of dr. Lizzi

was doing research as part of dr. Lizzi

was doing research as part of dr. Lizzi wool kovitch is temporal ecology lab at

wool kovitch is temporal ecology lab at

wool kovitch is temporal ecology lab at Harvard just across the river and our

Harvard just across the river and our

Harvard just across the river and our group was deeply interested in a topic

group was deeply interested in a topic

group was deeply interested in a topic called phenology now phenology is simply

called phenology now phenology is simply

called phenology now phenology is simply the study of an organism’s life events

the study of an organism’s life events

the study of an organism’s life events you and I have life events like birth

you and I have life events like birth

you and I have life events like birth and graduation and marriage and

and graduation and marriage and

and graduation and marriage and potentially but hopefully not divorce

potentially but hopefully not divorce

potentially but hopefully not divorce plants also have life events but they’re

plants also have life events but they’re

plants also have life events but they’re morphological it’s their change in their

morphological it’s their change in their

morphological it’s their change in their form so for instance we’re in the midst

form so for instance we’re in the midst

form so for instance we’re in the midst of one right now false in essence is a

of one right now false in essence is a

of one right now false in essence is a phenological event but our lab group was

phenological event but our lab group was

phenological event but our lab group was mostly interested in the spring

mostly interested in the spring

mostly interested in the spring corollary to that event which is

corollary to that event which is

corollary to that event which is budburst and I can walk you through what

budburst and I can walk you through what

budburst and I can walk you through what that looks like this is when the the

that looks like this is when the the

that looks like this is when the the leaves emerge from their winter dormancy

leaves emerge from their winter dormancy

leaves emerge from their winter dormancy this is a white ash bud

this is a white ash bud

this is a white ash bud during dormancy later too it’s swelling

during dormancy later too it’s swelling

during dormancy later too it’s swelling stage onto it breaking open its chute

stage onto it breaking open its chute

stage onto it breaking open its chute elongating and as spring continues its

elongating and as spring continues its

elongating and as spring continues its leaves forming now there are two

leaves forming now there are two

leaves forming now there are two distinct biochemical cues for the plant

distinct biochemical cues for the plant

distinct biochemical cues for the plant to go through that morphological change

to go through that morphological change

to go through that morphological change or cues for it to actually express that

or cues for it to actually express that

or cues for it to actually express that leaf one is the spring times extended

leaf one is the spring times extended

leaf one is the spring times extended day length so the photo period and the

day length so the photo period and the

day length so the photo period and the second is spring times warming

second is spring times warming

second is spring times warming temperatures now which of those two

temperatures now which of those two

temperatures now which of those two variables is the main driver of that

variables is the main driver of that

variables is the main driver of that expression of a leaf is a huge

expression of a leaf is a huge

expression of a leaf is a huge ecological question that’s yet

ecological question that’s yet

ecological question that’s yet unanswered so that’s the one my group

unanswered so that’s the one my group

unanswered so that’s the one my group went after answering and we did it by

went after answering and we did it by

went after answering and we did it by setting up a few experiments as

setting up a few experiments as

setting up a few experiments as scientists do we collected hundreds of

scientists do we collected hundreds of

scientists do we collected hundreds of twigs literally just cuttings off of

twigs literally just cuttings off of

twigs literally just cuttings off of trees between here in Montreal of about

trees between here in Montreal of about

trees between here in Montreal of about 30 different woody tree species or woody

30 different woody tree species or woody

30 different woody tree species or woody species

species

species say these are my old colleagues Jehan

say these are my old colleagues Jehan

say these are my old colleagues Jehan and Dan as we are scavenging for our

and Dan as we are scavenging for our

and Dan as we are scavenging for our species and we would take those cuttings

species and we would take those cuttings

species and we would take those cuttings or twigs back to our lab and put them in

or twigs back to our lab and put them in

or twigs back to our lab and put them in just a splash of water in a flask and

just a splash of water in a flask and

just a splash of water in a flask and then enter them into a growth chamber

then enter them into a growth chamber

then enter them into a growth chamber where we could incubate them in these

where we could incubate them in these

where we could incubate them in these different spring environments or

different spring environments or

different spring environments or different simulations of spring so we

different simulations of spring so we

different simulations of spring so we could really parse out whether photo

could really parse out whether photo

could really parse out whether photo period or temperature was that driver of

period or temperature was that driver of

period or temperature was that driver of leaf expression now critical to that

leaf expression now critical to that

leaf expression now critical to that work was having some sort of standard

work was having some sort of standard

work was having some sort of standard way of deciphering my subjective

way of deciphering my subjective

way of deciphering my subjective observations and turning them into

observations and turning them into

observations and turning them into objective data points so I need so I

objective data points so I need so I

objective data points so I need so I needed a rubric that could tell me what

needed a rubric that could tell me what

needed a rubric that could tell me what what was I looking at and what stage

what was I looking at and what stage

what was I looking at and what stage should I record that plant so I used a

should I record that plant so I used a

should I record that plant so I used a rubric like this and I would enter my

rubric like this and I would enter my

rubric like this and I would enter my chamber and for example I would record

chamber and for example I would record

chamber and for example I would record that white ash as a stage 10 where it’s

that white ash as a stage 10 where it’s

that white ash as a stage 10 where it’s chute is elongated so I’m effectively

chute is elongated so I’m effectively

chute is elongated so I’m effectively decoding these morphological status

decoding these morphological status

decoding these morphological status stages into data points and data

stages into data points and data

stages into data points and data collection ensued and there was quite a

collection ensued and there was quite a

collection ensued and there was quite a lot of it I had about 250 twigs in each

lot of it I had about 250 twigs in each

lot of it I had about 250 twigs in each of four growth chambers and I took data

of four growth chambers and I took data

of four growth chambers and I took data points or collected data twice a week

points or collected data twice a week

points or collected data twice a week for 10 weeks for a total of 20,000

for 10 weeks for a total of 20,000

for 10 weeks for a total of 20,000 measurements that’s a lot of data and if

measurements that’s a lot of data and if

measurements that’s a lot of data and if that’s not enough I actually did it two

that’s not enough I actually did it two

that’s not enough I actually did it two years in a row so that’s 40,000

years in a row so that’s 40,000

years in a row so that’s 40,000 measurements that I took and it nearly

measurements that I took and it nearly

measurements that I took and it nearly drove me insane

it was it was difficult it turns out

it was it was difficult it turns out science is very hard if you do it right

science is very hard if you do it right

science is very hard if you do it right and I salvage the experience because

and I salvage the experience because

and I salvage the experience because each time I went in to measure this

each time I went in to measure this

each time I went in to measure this expression of a leaf I I began to admire

expression of a leaf I I began to admire

expression of a leaf I I began to admire it more and more these are really just

it more and more these are really just

it more and more these are really just amazing organisms it seemed like they

amazing organisms it seemed like they

amazing organisms it seemed like they were designed almost architectural II

were designed almost architectural II

were designed almost architectural II the way their leaves unfolded and

the way their leaves unfolded and

the way their leaves unfolded and unpacked from the buds and it spurred me

unpacked from the buds and it spurred me

unpacked from the buds and it spurred me to deploy my camera and attempt to make

to deploy my camera and attempt to make

to deploy my camera and attempt to make a different visual rubric or dataset

a different visual rubric or dataset

a different visual rubric or dataset because these weren’t quite capturing

because these weren’t quite capturing

because these weren’t quite capturing the beauty that I was seeing in the buds

the beauty that I was seeing in the buds

the beauty that I was seeing in the buds and in my species so I started doing

and in my species so I started doing

and in my species so I started doing computational photography or time-lapse

computational photography or time-lapse

computational photography or time-lapse photography like this shot of a lilac

photography like this shot of a lilac

photography like this shot of a lilac flower inside of one of the growth

flower inside of one of the growth

flower inside of one of the growth chambers this is several weeks of

chambers this is several weeks of

chambers this is several weeks of photography happening here spoiler alert

photography happening here spoiler alert

photography happening here spoiler alert it dies

I showed you a a white ash this is a

I showed you a a white ash this is a black ash bud there’s a little bit of a

black ash bud there’s a little bit of a

black ash bud there’s a little bit of a delay at the beginning of this so this

delay at the beginning of this so this

delay at the beginning of this so this is the the bud breaking open and the

is the the bud breaking open and the

is the the bud breaking open and the leaf emerging it’s just really cool to

leaf emerging it’s just really cool to

leaf emerging it’s just really cool to watch we’re at least a photograph so as

watch we’re at least a photograph so as

watch we’re at least a photograph so as I was taking these measurements and

I was taking these measurements and

I was taking these measurements and doing these photos I added mechanical

doing these photos I added mechanical

doing these photos I added mechanical engineering onto the project and started

engineering onto the project and started

engineering onto the project and started fabricating my own actuators for my

fabricating my own actuators for my

fabricating my own actuators for my camera so this is a rail that I built to

camera so this is a rail that I built to

camera so this is a rail that I built to take more cinematic shots with movement

take more cinematic shots with movement

take more cinematic shots with movement like this shot of a Heyman maelys leaf

like this shot of a Heyman maelys leaf

like this shot of a Heyman maelys leaf opening so the camera is actually

opening so the camera is actually

opening so the camera is actually traversing along a rail so what happened

traversing along a rail so what happened

traversing along a rail so what happened here is is that I noticed a you know a

here is is that I noticed a you know a

here is is that I noticed a you know a change in my own form right I went from

change in my own form right I went from

change in my own form right I went from a biologist to a computational

a biologist to a computational

a biologist to a computational photographer to a mechanical engineer

photographer to a mechanical engineer

photographer to a mechanical engineer and I’m still not sure how my dad feels

and I’m still not sure how my dad feels

and I’m still not sure how my dad feels about this but an artist as well and I

about this but an artist as well and I

about this but an artist as well and I very gratefully have the privilege of

very gratefully have the privilege of

very gratefully have the privilege of wearing all of those hats simultaneously

wearing all of those hats simultaneously

wearing all of those hats simultaneously at MIT Media Lab now where I am decoding

at MIT Media Lab now where I am decoding

at MIT Media Lab now where I am decoding plants in a different way and I’m also a

plants in a different way and I’m also a

plants in a different way and I’m also a farmer for that cause so in the work I

farmer for that cause so in the work I

farmer for that cause so in the work I just described I was really using

just described I was really using

just described I was really using computation and engineering to to decode

computation and engineering to to decode

computation and engineering to to decode how plants express their morphology or

how plants express their morphology or

how plants express their morphology or their form really how we see plants and

their form really how we see plants and

their form really how we see plants and at the Media Lab we’re doing work to

at the Media Lab we’re doing work to

at the Media Lab we’re doing work to decode their flavor or how we taste

decode their flavor or how we taste

decode their flavor or how we taste plants and I’d love to show you what

plants and I’d love to show you what

plants and I’d love to show you what that looks like I’m a part of the open

that looks like I’m a part of the open

that looks like I’m a part of the open agriculture initiative at MIT Media Lab

agriculture initiative at MIT Media Lab

agriculture initiative at MIT Media Lab where we are building open source

where we are building open source

where we are building open source hardware and software to sort of

hardware and software to sort of

hardware and software to sort of reinvasion the future of agriculture

reinvasion the future of agriculture

reinvasion the future of agriculture this is a piece of hardware we built

this is a piece of hardware we built

this is a piece of hardware we built called the food computer and the groups

called the food computer and the groups

called the food computer and the groups led by caleb harper

led by caleb harper

led by caleb harper before I get into what a food computer

before I get into what a food computer

before I get into what a food computer does I’d appreciate it if the members of

does I’d appreciate it if the members of

does I’d appreciate it if the members of this audience could potentially think of

this audience could potentially think of

this audience could potentially think of a flavor memory you have a taste maybe

a flavor memory you have a taste maybe

a flavor memory you have a taste maybe when you were young of a piece of fruit

when you were young of a piece of fruit

when you were young of a piece of fruit or tomato that you wish you could have

or tomato that you wish you could have

or tomato that you wish you could have saved or captured or at least you still

saved or captured or at least you still

saved or captured or at least you still remember I I have one my grandfather’s

remember I I have one my grandfather’s

remember I I have one my grandfather’s blueberry bushes we used to pick

blueberry bushes we used to pick

blueberry bushes we used to pick blueberries in my grandfather’s backyard

blueberries in my grandfather’s backyard

blueberries in my grandfather’s backyard and if only I could have saved what

and if only I could have saved what

and if only I could have saved what those tasted like and and how does that

those tasted like and and how does that

those tasted like and and how does that flavor come about well you have a seed

flavor come about well you have a seed

flavor come about well you have a seed that has certain set of genetics in it

that has certain set of genetics in it

that has certain set of genetics in it right and those genetics or that genome

right and those genetics or that genome

right and those genetics or that genome determines how the plant will express

determines how the plant will express

determines how the plant will express its flavor but also you have something

its flavor but also you have something

its flavor but also you have something called the phenome which is the whole

called the phenome which is the whole

called the phenome which is the whole suite of environmental variables that

suite of environmental variables that

suite of environmental variables that the plant experiences while it’s growing

the plant experiences while it’s growing

the plant experiences while it’s growing that go on to express or not express

that go on to express or not express

that go on to express or not express those genetics and subsequent flavor so

those genetics and subsequent flavor so

those genetics and subsequent flavor so you have a seed right but you also have

you have a seed right but you also have

you have a seed right but you also have how much co2 is in the air when the

how much co2 is in the air when the

how much co2 is in the air when the plants growing the temperature and

plants growing the temperature and

plants growing the temperature and humidity of the air in which it grows

humidity of the air in which it grows

humidity of the air in which it grows the schedule of water and rainfall or

the schedule of water and rainfall or

the schedule of water and rainfall or the microbiome of the soil as wine

the microbiome of the soil as wine

the microbiome of the soil as wine growers know or just the color of light

growers know or just the color of light

growers know or just the color of light that it experiences while it’s growing

that it experiences while it’s growing

that it experiences while it’s growing that all add up to the phenome which

that all add up to the phenome which

that all add up to the phenome which causes this blue berry to express a

causes this blue berry to express a

causes this blue berry to express a particular flavor now what if we could

particular flavor now what if we could

particular flavor now what if we could decode the phenome of a particular

decode the phenome of a particular

decode the phenome of a particular flavor what if we could figure out which

flavor what if we could figure out which

flavor what if we could figure out which variables produce bitterness or

variables produce bitterness or

variables produce bitterness or sweetness well we would certainly need

sweetness well we would certainly need

sweetness well we would certainly need some sort of tool for that right we

some sort of tool for that right we

some sort of tool for that right we would need a growth chamber like the

would need a growth chamber like the

would need a growth chamber like the ones I was using the control photo

ones I was using the control photo

ones I was using the control photo period and temperature but what if what

period and temperature but what if what

period and temperature but what if what if we built one that had more knobs you

if we built one that had more knobs you

if we built one that had more knobs you could turn for each of those variables

could turn for each of those variables

could turn for each of those variables well we’re at MIT so yeah we’re doing

well we’re at MIT so yeah we’re doing

well we’re at MIT so yeah we’re doing that and it’s it’s called the food

that and it’s it’s called the food

that and it’s it’s called the food computer this is our our young version

computer this is our our young version

computer this is our our young version of the personal food computer a sort of

of the personal food computer a sort of

of the personal food computer a sort of desktop size

desktop size

desktop size and I like to think about this as sort

and I like to think about this as sort

and I like to think about this as sort of presets almost like the your car seat

of presets almost like the your car seat

of presets almost like the your car seat right imagine if you could take that

right imagine if you could take that

right imagine if you could take that flavor memory figure out the environment

flavor memory figure out the environment

flavor memory figure out the environment that produced it save that as data

that produced it save that as data

that produced it save that as data almost as a data file and mail it or

almost as a data file and mail it or

almost as a data file and mail it or email it to a friend who has a food

email it to a friend who has a food

email it to a friend who has a food computer and has the same seed as you

computer and has the same seed as you

computer and has the same seed as you and they could grow the precisely the

and they could grow the precisely the

and they could grow the precisely the same flavor tomato or flavor blueberry

same flavor tomato or flavor blueberry

same flavor tomato or flavor blueberry as you not merely just the same plant

as you not merely just the same plant

as you not merely just the same plant and we call this environment recipes and

and we call this environment recipes and

and we call this environment recipes and we think this is going to change the way

we think this is going to change the way

we think this is going to change the way we grow food in the future so that was

we grow food in the future so that was

we grow food in the future so that was the personal food computer this is our

the personal food computer this is our

the personal food computer this is our next generation of food computer it’s

next generation of food computer it’s

next generation of food computer it’s called the food server and I’d like to

called the food server and I’d like to

called the food server and I’d like to actually just show you the inside I just

actually just show you the inside I just

actually just show you the inside I just harvested our first plants and data this

harvested our first plants and data this

harvested our first plants and data this is an experiment I’m running on basil to

is an experiment I’m running on basil to

is an experiment I’m running on basil to see how UV light creates a tastier basil

see how UV light creates a tastier basil

see how UV light creates a tastier basil these are seedlings that I just

these are seedlings that I just

these are seedlings that I just germinated I’m still somewhat

germinated I’m still somewhat

germinated I’m still somewhat reluctantly manually collecting data and

reluctantly manually collecting data and

reluctantly manually collecting data and this is a new food computer we just

this is a new food computer we just

this is a new food computer we just built it’s called a tree computer and

built it’s called a tree computer and

built it’s called a tree computer and we’re building it for a candy company

we’re building it for a candy company

we’re building it for a candy company but I’ll save that for next year and

but I’ll save that for next year and

but I’ll save that for next year and what I love about this work is that I’m

what I love about this work is that I’m

what I love about this work is that I’m not merely just collecting data but I’m

not merely just collecting data but I’m

not merely just collecting data but I’m actually building and designing the

actually building and designing the

actually building and designing the tools to do the science and to collect

tools to do the science and to collect

tools to do the science and to collect the data and as much as this talk has

the data and as much as this talk has

the data and as much as this talk has been about how plants express themselves

been about how plants express themselves

been about how plants express themselves it’s also been about how I express

it’s also been about how I express

it’s also been about how I express myself through my work and if we go back

myself through my work and if we go back

myself through my work and if we go back to form and taste there was a transition

to form and taste there was a transition

to form and taste there was a transition in the form of my work right when you

in the form of my work right when you

in the form of my work right when you start off with this sort of sterile

start off with this sort of sterile

start off with this sort of sterile rubric of these growth stages and I

rubric of these growth stages and I

rubric of these growth stages and I changed that form to something more

changed that form to something more

changed that form to something more compelling and engaging like this

compelling and engaging like this

compelling and engaging like this time-lapse and with that change in form

time-lapse and with that change in form

time-lapse and with that change in form was a change in taste where you have

was a change in taste where you have

was a change in taste where you have or there was a change in taste or

or there was a change in taste or

or there was a change in taste or whereby I went I went from merely a

whereby I went I went from merely a

whereby I went I went from merely a biologist to having a more robust

biologist to having a more robust

biologist to having a more robust constellation of pursuits in engineering

constellation of pursuits in engineering

constellation of pursuits in engineering and design but it’s still rooted in

and design but it’s still rooted in

and design but it’s still rooted in science because I would argue that

science because I would argue that

science because I would argue that that’s this time-lapse is actually just

that’s this time-lapse is actually just

that’s this time-lapse is actually just as scientifically rigorous and data rich

as scientifically rigorous and data rich

as scientifically rigorous and data rich as the rubric it was born from so if I

as the rubric it was born from so if I

as the rubric it was born from so if I could offer some advice to any young

could offer some advice to any young

could offer some advice to any young folks in the audience just embarking on

folks in the audience just embarking on

folks in the audience just embarking on this work of decoding how they want to

this work of decoding how they want to

this work of decoding how they want to express themselves there are so many

express themselves there are so many

express themselves there are so many entry points into science science and

entry points into science science and

entry points into science science and research need photographers and farmers

research need photographers and farmers

research need photographers and farmers and I encourage you to continue this

and I encourage you to continue this

and I encourage you to continue this work that I hope shows that science and

work that I hope shows that science and

work that I hope shows that science and art aren’t just two disciplines that

art aren’t just two disciplines that

art aren’t just two disciplines that play well together but can often be the

play well together but can often be the

play well together but can often be the same thing and if you have as look as

same thing and if you have as look as

same thing and if you have as look as much luck as I have had you will go from

much luck as I have had you will go from

much luck as I have had you will go from having an interest in ecology to

having an interest in ecology to

having an interest in ecology to arriving at an ecology between your

arriving at an ecology between your

arriving at an ecology between your interests so thanks for your time I

interests so thanks for your time I

interests so thanks for your time I appreciate it

appreciate it

appreciate it [Applause]

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