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Crowd Sourcing the Cures | Dr. Dwight Randle | TEDxMountainViewCollege


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[Music] one three dimethyl xanthine one three

one three dimethyl xanthine one three

one three dimethyl xanthine one three that methyl xanthine that doesn’t sound

that methyl xanthine that doesn’t sound

that methyl xanthine that doesn’t sound like something you want in your body

like something you want in your body

like something you want in your body what did you have for breakfast oh one

what did you have for breakfast oh one

what did you have for breakfast oh one three mess was anything over pancakes

three mess was anything over pancakes

three mess was anything over pancakes scrambled eggs well I had it in my body

scrambled eggs well I had it in my body

scrambled eggs well I had it in my body I had into my body you see a while ago

I had into my body you see a while ago

I had into my body you see a while ago when I was younger I was in graduate

when I was younger I was in graduate

when I was younger I was in graduate school and I needed some money so what

school and I needed some money so what

school and I needed some money so what do you do you need money you’re a young

do you do you need money you’re a young

do you do you need money you’re a young man in graduate school you’re enrolled

man in graduate school you’re enrolled

man in graduate school you’re enrolled in a clinical trial that’s what I did

in a clinical trial that’s what I did

in a clinical trial that’s what I did and they put a catheter in my arm and

and they put a catheter in my arm and

and they put a catheter in my arm and they put this one three dive man throws

they put this one three dive man throws

they put this one three dive man throws anything into my veins yeah

anything into my veins yeah

anything into my veins yeah I didn’t I had no idea what 1/3 thought

I didn’t I had no idea what 1/3 thought

I didn’t I had no idea what 1/3 thought meant the same thing was but they did

meant the same thing was but they did

meant the same thing was but they did tell me what they were trying to do was

tell me what they were trying to do was

tell me what they were trying to do was figure out how long it would stay on my

figure out how long it would stay on my

figure out how long it would stay on my body so that’s what we did we sat around

body so that’s what we did we sat around

body so that’s what we did we sat around and we waited for this stuff to get out

and we waited for this stuff to get out

and we waited for this stuff to get out of my body now what I didn’t tell you

of my body now what I didn’t tell you

of my body now what I didn’t tell you though was that 1/3 that methyl xanthine

though was that 1/3 that methyl xanthine

though was that 1/3 that methyl xanthine is a cousin biochemically to caffeine a

is a cousin biochemically to caffeine a

is a cousin biochemically to caffeine a thousand times more potent than caffeine

thousand times more potent than caffeine

thousand times more potent than caffeine so I got this injection on a Friday

so I got this injection on a Friday

so I got this injection on a Friday afternoon at around 2:00 o’clock I went

afternoon at around 2:00 o’clock I went

afternoon at around 2:00 o’clock I went to bed Tuesday morning at 4:00 because

to bed Tuesday morning at 4:00 because

to bed Tuesday morning at 4:00 because of the caffeine so now we know how long

of the caffeine so now we know how long

of the caffeine so now we know how long 1/3 that methyl xanthine will stay in at

1/3 that methyl xanthine will stay in at

1/3 that methyl xanthine will stay in at least one body well that was a clinical

least one body well that was a clinical

least one body well that was a clinical trial that used many subjects just like

trial that used many subjects just like

trial that used many subjects just like me to understand the biochemistry of

me to understand the biochemistry of

me to understand the biochemistry of this particular medication and we didn’t

this particular medication and we didn’t

this particular medication and we didn’t know what it was but we did know that we

know what it was but we did know that we

know what it was but we did know that we had to find out what this answer was so

had to find out what this answer was so

had to find out what this answer was so what I’m going to talk to you today

what I’m going to talk to you today

what I’m going to talk to you today about is how we can collectively help

about is how we can collectively help

about is how we can collectively help cure disease now if I told you that the

cure disease now if I told you that the

cure disease now if I told you that the cure to cancer was in your body would

cure to cancer was in your body would

cure to cancer was in your body would you give it to me would you give it to

you give it to me would you give it to

you give it to me would you give it to your grandma would you give it to your

your grandma would you give it to your

your grandma would you give it to your granddad would you give it to somebody

granddad would you give it to somebody

granddad would you give it to somebody you didn’t like I didn’t know didn’t

you didn’t like I didn’t know didn’t

you didn’t like I didn’t know didn’t care about that didn’t give you pancakes

care about that didn’t give you pancakes

care about that didn’t give you pancakes would you give it to them I would if I

would you give it to them I would if I

would you give it to them I would if I had the cure to cancer in my body I’d

had the cure to cancer in my body I’d

had the cure to cancer in my body I’d give it to everybody that’s what this

give it to everybody that’s what this

give it to everybody that’s what this talk is about crowdsourcing the cures

talk is about crowdsourcing the cures

talk is about crowdsourcing the cures the cures to cancer and many other

the cures to cancer and many other

the cures to cancer and many other diseases so we’re gonna talk about

diseases so we’re gonna talk about

diseases so we’re gonna talk about clinical trials today and that’s first

clinical trials today and that’s first

clinical trials today and that’s first thing I’d like to tell you is that we’ve

thing I’d like to tell you is that we’ve

thing I’d like to tell you is that we’ve done clinical trials before we have a

done clinical trials before we have a

done clinical trials before we have a lot of information that we got from

lot of information that we got from

lot of information that we got from clinical trials and here’s some of it so

clinical trials and here’s some of it so

clinical trials and here’s some of it so moderate alcohol consumption turns out

moderate alcohol consumption turns out

moderate alcohol consumption turns out is good for your heart

is good for your heart

is good for your heart who knows clinical trial told us that

who knows clinical trial told us that

who knows clinical trial told us that blood pressure increases high blood

blood pressure increases high blood

blood pressure increases high blood pressure increases

pressure increases

pressure increases risk of heart attacks and stroke

risk of heart attacks and stroke

risk of heart attacks and stroke clinical trials told us that the

clinical trials told us that the

clinical trials told us that the increase of that healthy cholesterol

increase of that healthy cholesterol

increase of that healthy cholesterol that they call l h LD that cholesterol

that they call l h LD that cholesterol

that they call l h LD that cholesterol well it reduces the risk of

well it reduces the risk of

well it reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease clinical trials

cardiovascular disease clinical trials

cardiovascular disease clinical trials told us this and here’s one that

told us this and here’s one that

told us this and here’s one that clinical trials we probably didn’t need

clinical trials we probably didn’t need

clinical trials we probably didn’t need a clinical trial for that but it told us

a clinical trial for that but it told us

a clinical trial for that but it told us that smoking was bad for you if you

that smoking was bad for you if you

that smoking was bad for you if you smoke stop if you don’t smoke don’t

smoke stop if you don’t smoke don’t

smoke stop if you don’t smoke don’t start clinical trials told us that too

start clinical trials told us that too

start clinical trials told us that too and leafy green vegetables are good for

and leafy green vegetables are good for

and leafy green vegetables are good for your brain your brain loves that stuff

your brain your brain loves that stuff

your brain your brain loves that stuff and the last one I tell you about is

and the last one I tell you about is

and the last one I tell you about is that exercise we know exercise helps

that exercise we know exercise helps

that exercise we know exercise helps everything it makes you thinner it makes

everything it makes you thinner it makes

everything it makes you thinner it makes you more beautiful it grows hair i’ll

you more beautiful it grows hair i’ll

you more beautiful it grows hair i’ll trial haven’t quite got there yet all of

trial haven’t quite got there yet all of

trial haven’t quite got there yet all of this came from clinical trials and this

this came from clinical trials and this

this came from clinical trials and this is probably your image of a clinical

is probably your image of a clinical

is probably your image of a clinical trial but what if i told you that this

trial but what if i told you that this

trial but what if i told you that this was the image of a clinical trial where

was the image of a clinical trial where

was the image of a clinical trial where you have patient or what we call

you have patient or what we call

you have patient or what we call participants subjects working

participants subjects working

participants subjects working individually with their doctor with the

individually with their doctor with the

individually with their doctor with the principal investigator of that clinical

principal investigator of that clinical

principal investigator of that clinical trial we call them P eyes this is a more

trial we call them P eyes this is a more

trial we call them P eyes this is a more accurate vision of what clinical trials

accurate vision of what clinical trials

accurate vision of what clinical trials are this is certainly what I experienced

are this is certainly what I experienced

are this is certainly what I experienced and studies have shown that people in a

and studies have shown that people in a

and studies have shown that people in a clinical trial get the best care they

clinical trial get the best care they

clinical trial get the best care they get care that’s better than anyone else

get care that’s better than anyone else

get care that’s better than anyone else because they have a team of doctors and

because they have a team of doctors and

because they have a team of doctors and physicians and clinicians working with

physicians and clinicians working with

physicians and clinicians working with them well I want to tell you about what

them well I want to tell you about what

them well I want to tell you about what clinical trials are and how they are put

clinical trials are and how they are put

clinical trials are and how they are put together they are essentially put into

together they are essentially put into

together they are essentially put into three broad categories and we call them

three broad categories and we call them

three broad categories and we call them phases and each phase is designed to

phases and each phase is designed to

phases and each phase is designed to answer a specific question so phase one

answer a specific question so phase one

answer a specific question so phase one as this question is it safe now that’s a

as this question is it safe now that’s a

as this question is it safe now that’s a scary part for most people but let me

scary part for most people but let me

scary part for most people but let me tell you before they can put anything in

tell you before they can put anything in

tell you before they can put anything in a human it’s already been gone through

a human it’s already been gone through

a human it’s already been gone through it has gone through many preclinical

it has gone through many preclinical

it has gone through many preclinical tests to identify its safety profile so

tests to identify its safety profile so

tests to identify its safety profile so this question really is if it is it as

this question really is if it is it as

this question really is if it is it as safe as we think it is that’s what this

safe as we think it is that’s what this

safe as we think it is that’s what this question is so phase one answers this

question is so phase one answers this

question is so phase one answers this question is it as safe as we think it is

question is it as safe as we think it is

question is it as safe as we think it is when that answer is yes the next

when that answer is yes the next

when that answer is yes the next question is in Phase two of the clinical

question is in Phase two of the clinical

question is in Phase two of the clinical trial does it work so we think it’s

trial does it work so we think it’s

trial does it work so we think it’s going to do this we’re gonna shut down

going to do this we’re gonna shut down

going to do this we’re gonna shut down this biochemical pathway which will

this biochemical pathway which will

this biochemical pathway which will starve the tumor of nutrients it needs

starve the tumor of nutrients it needs

starve the tumor of nutrients it needs and the tumor will die does it really do

and the tumor will die does it really do

and the tumor will die does it really do that stage two helps us do that then the

that stage two helps us do that then the

that stage two helps us do that then the last one is phase 3 is it better than

last one is phase 3 is it better than

last one is phase 3 is it better than what we’re using already

what we’re using already

what we’re using already that’s what phase 3 does and when they

that’s what phase 3 does and when they

that’s what phase 3 does and when they do phase 1 trials they use a few people

do phase 1 trials they use a few people

do phase 1 trials they use a few people they use phase TrueType trials they use

they use phase TrueType trials they use

they use phase TrueType trials they use more people and then phase 3 trials or

more people and then phase 3 trials or

more people and then phase 3 trials or masses of people that’s where you and I

masses of people that’s where you and I

masses of people that’s where you and I come in phase 3 trials is it better than

come in phase 3 trials is it better than

come in phase 3 trials is it better than what we’re using already well you have

what we’re using already well you have

what we’re using already well you have these 3 phases phase 1 is it safer than

these 3 phases phase 1 is it safer than

these 3 phases phase 1 is it safer than what we think it is phase 2 does it work

what we think it is phase 2 does it work

what we think it is phase 2 does it work better than what we have in phase 3 is

better than what we have in phase 3 is

better than what we have in phase 3 is it better than what we have now you

it better than what we have now you

it better than what we have now you might think that doctors can do this

might think that doctors can do this

might think that doctors can do this research all by themselves just hang out

research all by themselves just hang out

research all by themselves just hang out their shingle put on the white coat and

their shingle put on the white coat and

their shingle put on the white coat and go to town but it’s a little different

go to town but it’s a little different

go to town but it’s a little different than that from that they have some

than that from that they have some

than that from that they have some regulatory controls that are put on them

regulatory controls that are put on them

regulatory controls that are put on them and it comes in the form of the

and it comes in the form of the

and it comes in the form of the institutional review board every phase

institutional review board every phase

institutional review board every phase of a clinical trial has to have the

of a clinical trial has to have the

of a clinical trial has to have the management of a institutional review

management of a institutional review

management of a institutional review board to make sure they have one goal

board to make sure they have one goal

board to make sure they have one goal and that’s to make sure that patients

and that’s to make sure that patients

and that’s to make sure that patients are protected that’s the only goal of

are protected that’s the only goal of

are protected that’s the only goal of the institutional review board now you

the institutional review board now you

the institutional review board now you may think that it’s just a bunch of

may think that it’s just a bunch of

may think that it’s just a bunch of doctors who are kind of chummy with each

doctors who are kind of chummy with each

doctors who are kind of chummy with each other and they’ve taken care of each

other and they’ve taken care of each

other and they’ve taken care of each other you’ve approved my trial I’ll

other you’ve approved my trial I’ll

other you’ve approved my trial I’ll approve yours yeah no no the

approve yours yeah no no the

approve yours yeah no no the institutional review board is made up of

institutional review board is made up of

institutional review board is made up of individuals just like you and me patient

individuals just like you and me patient

individuals just like you and me patient advocates sure there are doctors there

advocates sure there are doctors there

advocates sure there are doctors there but there are patient advocates

but there are patient advocates

but there are patient advocates sometimes there are patients on these

sometimes there are patients on these

sometimes there are patients on these institutional review boards and everyone

institutional review boards and everyone

institutional review boards and everyone in this room can qualify to sit on an

in this room can qualify to sit on an

in this room can qualify to sit on an institutional review board one of the

institutional review board one of the

institutional review board one of the things that they take care of is this

things that they take care of is this

things that they take care of is this integrity of the research to make sure

integrity of the research to make sure

integrity of the research to make sure that all of the different components

that all of the different components

that all of the different components that leads into patient safety is

that leads into patient safety is

that leads into patient safety is maintained in the control in the trial

maintained in the control in the trial

maintained in the control in the trial so this is how they do that

so this is how they do that

so this is how they do that first they have the informed consent the

first they have the informed consent the

first they have the informed consent the informed consent simply means that

informed consent simply means that

informed consent simply means that anyone considering enrolling in a

anyone considering enrolling in a

anyone considering enrolling in a clinical trial

clinical trial

clinical trial they must be educated about every

they must be educated about every

they must be educated about every potential problem with that trial

potential problem with that trial

potential problem with that trial everything that’s going on in that trial

everything that’s going on in that trial

everything that’s going on in that trial everything that’s going to happen to

everything that’s going to happen to

everything that’s going to happen to them for them and because of them has to

them for them and because of them has to

them for them and because of them has to be in that consent form and people just

be in that consent form and people just

be in that consent form and people just like you review that consent form and

like you review that consent form and

like you review that consent form and say yeah this meets our standards

say yeah this meets our standards

say yeah this meets our standards everyone in a clinical trial gets the

everyone in a clinical trial gets the

everyone in a clinical trial gets the standard of care because remember

standard of care because remember

standard of care because remember they’re comparing is it better than what

they’re comparing is it better than what

they’re comparing is it better than what we have already so if you eat broccoli

we have already so if you eat broccoli

we have already so if you eat broccoli to cure the cold and you’re in a

to cure the cold and you’re in a

to cure the cold and you’re in a clinical trial guess what they’re gonna

clinical trial guess what they’re gonna

clinical trial guess what they’re gonna feed you broccoli too along with what

feed you broccoli too along with what

feed you broccoli too along with what they think is gonna cure the common cold

they think is gonna cure the common cold

they think is gonna cure the common cold that’s the standard of care and

that’s the standard of care and

that’s the standard of care and everybody gets that there’s also a risk

everybody gets that there’s also a risk

everybody gets that there’s also a risk benefit analysis and that’s where you

benefit analysis and that’s where you

benefit analysis and that’s where you take into account the risk of been in a

take into account the risk of been in a

take into account the risk of been in a clinical trial because yes there are

clinical trial because yes there are

clinical trial because yes there are some unknowns against the benefit of

some unknowns against the benefit of

some unknowns against the benefit of being in that clinical trial and you

being in that clinical trial and you

being in that clinical trial and you have to array that so clinical trial is

have to array that so clinical trial is

have to array that so clinical trial is a part of the continuum of discovery

a part of the continuum of discovery

a part of the continuum of discovery once we find a drug that works in the

once we find a drug that works in the

once we find a drug that works in the laboratory we need to test that thing in

laboratory we need to test that thing in

laboratory we need to test that thing in people first would a few then a little

people first would a few then a little

people first would a few then a little more and then a little more I say that

more and then a little more I say that

more and then a little more I say that the answer to this cancer problem is in

the answer to this cancer problem is in

the answer to this cancer problem is in this room in somebody’s body in all of

this room in somebody’s body in all of

this room in somebody’s body in all of our bodies but we need to be part of a

our bodies but we need to be part of a

our bodies but we need to be part of a clinical trial so that they can find it

clinical trial so that they can find it

clinical trial so that they can find it one of the other things with the

one of the other things with the

one of the other things with the clinical trial to make sure that

clinical trial to make sure that

clinical trial to make sure that everybody has the role to participate if

everybody has the role to participate if

everybody has the role to participate if you can want to participate you should

you can want to participate you should

you can want to participate you should be able to so that we don’t have

be able to so that we don’t have

be able to so that we don’t have clinical trials that look like this one

clinical trials that look like this one

clinical trials that look like this one type of person in the whole trial well

type of person in the whole trial well

type of person in the whole trial well people are different give you an example

people are different give you an example

people are different give you an example when I get a headache I take

when I get a headache I take

when I get a headache I take acetaminophen when my wife gets a

acetaminophen when my wife gets a

acetaminophen when my wife gets a headache

headache

headache she takes ibuprofen ibuprofen does

she takes ibuprofen ibuprofen does

she takes ibuprofen ibuprofen does nothing for my headache but it works

nothing for my headache but it works

nothing for my headache but it works great for her we are different in that

great for her we are different in that

great for her we are different in that way so we’re different in that way

way so we’re different in that way

way so we’re different in that way imagine how different we are when it

imagine how different we are when it

imagine how different we are when it comes to cancer therapy some of the most

comes to cancer therapy some of the most

comes to cancer therapy some of the most complex diseases on the planet we could

complex diseases on the planet we could

complex diseases on the planet we could be very different and we may never know

be very different and we may never know

be very different and we may never know it

it

it we don’t participate in clinical trials

we don’t participate in clinical trials

we don’t participate in clinical trials remember that one three that methods

remember that one three that methods

remember that one three that methods anything this is what came from the

anything this is what came from the

anything this is what came from the study I was in the dose the dose must be

study I was in the dose the dose must be

study I was in the dose the dose must be individualized on the basis of serum

individualized on the basis of serum

individualized on the basis of serum concentration measurements in order to

concentration measurements in order to

concentration measurements in order to achieve a dose that will provide the

achieve a dose that will provide the

achieve a dose that will provide the maximum potential benefit with minimal

maximum potential benefit with minimal

maximum potential benefit with minimal risk of adverse events what that really

risk of adverse events what that really

risk of adverse events what that really means is the dose is not a

means is the dose is not a

means is the dose is not a one-size-fits-all that you have to check

one-size-fits-all that you have to check

one-size-fits-all that you have to check this thing to make sure it’s the right

this thing to make sure it’s the right

this thing to make sure it’s the right dose for the right person and now I can

dose for the right person and now I can

dose for the right person and now I can tell you what one three dimethyl the

tell you what one three dimethyl the

tell you what one three dimethyl the same thing is you don’t put it on your

same thing is you don’t put it on your

same thing is you don’t put it on your pancakes you breathe it

pancakes you breathe it

pancakes you breathe it it is a asthma medication for kids a

it is a asthma medication for kids a

it is a asthma medication for kids a pediatric asthma medication and now they

pediatric asthma medication and now they

pediatric asthma medication and now they know that the dose is not a one size fit

know that the dose is not a one size fit

know that the dose is not a one size fit all for every child I help them find

all for every child I help them find

all for every child I help them find that so when that single parent is

that so when that single parent is

that so when that single parent is laboring over her child who scratch it

laboring over her child who scratch it

laboring over her child who scratch it out and labor and trying to get that

out and labor and trying to get that

out and labor and trying to get that next breath or sweet oxygen that we all

next breath or sweet oxygen that we all

next breath or sweet oxygen that we all love and they’re trying to get it they

love and they’re trying to get it they

love and they’re trying to get it they give their child one three dimethyl

give their child one three dimethyl

give their child one three dimethyl anything I like to think a night that

anything I like to think a night that

anything I like to think a night that there’s somebody’s may be a single

there’s somebody’s may be a single

there’s somebody’s may be a single parent who says this is the miracle drug

parent who says this is the miracle drug

parent who says this is the miracle drug I have to find out what this drug is

I have to find out what this drug is

I have to find out what this drug is they go to their medicine cabinet and

they go to their medicine cabinet and

they go to their medicine cabinet and they take this drug and they read it

they take this drug and they read it

they take this drug and they read it they read the label what they see is not

they read the label what they see is not

they read the label what they see is not gonna be my name it’s gonna be one three

gonna be my name it’s gonna be one three

gonna be my name it’s gonna be one three that methyl xanthine the dose must be

that methyl xanthine the dose must be

that methyl xanthine the dose must be individualized that’s my claim to fame

individualized that’s my claim to fame

individualized that’s my claim to fame because I was in a clinical trial before

because I was in a clinical trial before

because I was in a clinical trial before I go is one thing I want to do I want to

I go is one thing I want to do I want to

I go is one thing I want to do I want to take issue with the term that we use

take issue with the term that we use

take issue with the term that we use when someone dies from cancer we often

when someone dies from cancer we often

when someone dies from cancer we often say that they lost their battle with

say that they lost their battle with

say that they lost their battle with cancer the people I know had cancer went

cancer the people I know had cancer went

cancer the people I know had cancer went to work they started educating people so

to work they started educating people so

to work they started educating people so that no one else would have to suffer

that no one else would have to suffer

that no one else would have to suffer with the disease like they did they go

with the disease like they did they go

with the disease like they did they go to work to make sure that there’s

to work to make sure that there’s

to work to make sure that there’s funding for research they go out there

funding for research they go out there

funding for research they go out there and start talking about clinical trials

and start talking about clinical trials

and start talking about clinical trials and the benefits of participating in my

and the benefits of participating in my

and the benefits of participating in my view that’s not losing the bad

view that’s not losing the bad

view that’s not losing the bad thanks to some of the people I’ve known

thanks to some of the people I’ve known

thanks to some of the people I’ve known who’ve gone on millions of people

who’ve gone on millions of people

who’ve gone on millions of people understand the risk of breast cancer and

understand the risk of breast cancer and

understand the risk of breast cancer and those are just the ones that I know

those are just the ones that I know

those are just the ones that I know that’s not losing the battle in my mind

that’s not losing the battle in my mind

that’s not losing the battle in my mind they’re passing the torch they passed

they’re passing the torch they passed

they’re passing the torch they passed the torch to me and they passed the

the torch to me and they passed the

the torch to me and they passed the torch to you and they’re going down the

torch to you and they’re going down the

torch to you and they’re going down the only way that we can thank them the only

only way that we can thank them the only

only way that we can thank them the only way that we can move progress forward is

way that we can move progress forward is

way that we can move progress forward is to participate in the clinical trial

to participate in the clinical trial

to participate in the clinical trial continuum maybe being a patient is not

continuum maybe being a patient is not

continuum maybe being a patient is not for you but being on that institutional

for you but being on that institutional

for you but being on that institutional review board could be so the next time

review board could be so the next time

review board could be so the next time someone asked you what you want in your

someone asked you what you want in your

someone asked you what you want in your pancakes tell them 1 3 dimethyl xanthine

pancakes tell them 1 3 dimethyl xanthine

pancakes tell them 1 3 dimethyl xanthine thank you everybody

thank you everybody

thank you everybody thank you

thank you

thank you [Applause]

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