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Creativity Has No Expiration Date | Kristine Tarmann | TEDxValparaisoUniversity


it’s kind of surreal to be back up on

it’s kind of surreal to be back up on this stage had you told me that the last

this stage had you told me that the last

this stage had you told me that the last time I was up on the stage that in just

time I was up on the stage that in just

time I was up on the stage that in just two years I’d be living next to a

two years I’d be living next to a

two years I’d be living next to a hundred and two-year-old woman who still

hundred and two-year-old woman who still

hundred and two-year-old woman who still makes her own vodka I would have never

makes her own vodka I would have never

makes her own vodka I would have never believed you ever I mean honestly I

believed you ever I mean honestly I

believed you ever I mean honestly I would have been really jealous of that

would have been really jealous of that

would have been really jealous of that premonition and I’ve always had a really

premonition and I’ve always had a really

premonition and I’ve always had a really special taste in my heart for the

special taste in my heart for the

special taste in my heart for the elderly population but again

elderly population but again

elderly population but again I wouldn’t have believed doing the

I wouldn’t have believed doing the

I wouldn’t have believed doing the slightest but that is exactly what one

slightest but that is exactly what one

slightest but that is exactly what one facet of my life looks like right now as

facet of my life looks like right now as

facet of my life looks like right now as the artists and residents at Milwaukee

the artists and residents at Milwaukee

the artists and residents at Milwaukee Catholic home which is a retirement

Catholic home which is a retirement

Catholic home which is a retirement community and health care facility for

community and health care facility for

community and health care facility for the elderly population on the east side

the elderly population on the east side

the elderly population on the east side of Milwaukee and though I’m the youngest

of Milwaukee and though I’m the youngest

of Milwaukee and though I’m the youngest resident by about sixty years it’s

resident by about sixty years it’s

resident by about sixty years it’s absolutely phenomenal I love it and so

absolutely phenomenal I love it and so

absolutely phenomenal I love it and so in exchange for programming based around

in exchange for programming based around

in exchange for programming based around the arts I received free housing

the arts I received free housing

the arts I received free housing professional development and by far my

professional development and by far my

professional development and by far my favorite part and never-ending series of

favorite part and never-ending series of

favorite part and never-ending series of challenging and lightining conversations

challenging and lightining conversations

challenging and lightining conversations and countless bouts of laughter and this

and countless bouts of laughter and this

and countless bouts of laughter and this all began with a conversation that I

all began with a conversation that I

all began with a conversation that I actually wasn’t even a part of but I’m

actually wasn’t even a part of but I’m

actually wasn’t even a part of but I’m so glad that I stepped into that

so glad that I stepped into that

so glad that I stepped into that conversation and really challenged

conversation and really challenged

conversation and really challenged myself in this role and I was catapulted

myself in this role and I was catapulted

myself in this role and I was catapulted into it

into it

into it and the thing is is that everything that

and the thing is is that everything that

and the thing is is that everything that I do is in efforts of something much

I do is in efforts of something much

I do is in efforts of something much bigger than myself

bigger than myself

bigger than myself everything I do surrounds combating

everything I do surrounds combating

everything I do surrounds combating stigma that surrounds the elderly

stigma that surrounds the elderly

stigma that surrounds the elderly population as well as social isolation

population as well as social isolation

population as well as social isolation and feelings of loneliness that also

and feelings of loneliness that also

and feelings of loneliness that also greatly plagues it too and so what I

greatly plagues it too and so what I

greatly plagues it too and so what I mean by social isolation and feelings of

mean by social isolation and feelings of

mean by social isolation and feelings of loneliness is that it’s not necessarily

loneliness is that it’s not necessarily

loneliness is that it’s not necessarily a sickness it’s not something that

a sickness it’s not something that

a sickness it’s not something that something to be prescribed for it’s not

something to be prescribed for it’s not

something to be prescribed for it’s not there’s no physical symptoms there’s no

there’s no physical symptoms there’s no

there’s no physical symptoms there’s no way to really kind of cure it that you

way to really kind of cure it that you

way to really kind of cure it that you can just give them medication yet after

can just give them medication yet after

can just give them medication yet after a while it starts to take a toll and

a while it starts to take a toll and

a while it starts to take a toll and those

those

those that have those feelings of social

that have those feelings of social

that have those feelings of social isolation and lonliness are more prone

isolation and lonliness are more prone

isolation and lonliness are more prone to long-term diseases especially

to long-term diseases especially

to long-term diseases especially Alzheimer’s and other dementias and so

Alzheimer’s and other dementias and so

Alzheimer’s and other dementias and so you know how do we combat this thing

you know how do we combat this thing

you know how do we combat this thing that we can’t give a prescription and

that we can’t give a prescription and

that we can’t give a prescription and it’s not as easy just to say yeah come

it’s not as easy just to say yeah come

it’s not as easy just to say yeah come to my program it’s going to be great

to my program it’s going to be great

to my program it’s going to be great so varenna medic who was a professor at

so varenna medic who was a professor at

so varenna medic who was a professor at McMaster University says that research

McMaster University says that research

McMaster University says that research on interventions for social isolation

on interventions for social isolation

on interventions for social isolation and loneliness are inconsistent and

and loneliness are inconsistent and

and loneliness are inconsistent and inconclusive and that’s really not

inconclusive and that’s really not

inconclusive and that’s really not surprising at all considering the fact

surprising at all considering the fact

surprising at all considering the fact that every single person has lived a

that every single person has lived a

that every single person has lived a very unique and different life so

very unique and different life so

very unique and different life so therefore we must engage them uniquely

therefore we must engage them uniquely

therefore we must engage them uniquely and differently right but I’ve through

and differently right but I’ve through

and differently right but I’ve through my program have found a kind of

my program have found a kind of

my program have found a kind of commonality that everyone kind of

commonality that everyone kind of

commonality that everyone kind of gravitates towards whether they’re 5 or

gravitates towards whether they’re 5 or

gravitates towards whether they’re 5 or 25 or 105 and that’s the arts and so

25 or 105 and that’s the arts and so

25 or 105 and that’s the arts and so when I started as artisan residents I

when I started as artisan residents I

when I started as artisan residents I was really kind of scared really kind of

was really kind of scared really kind of

was really kind of scared really kind of terrified because I was about to be

terrified because I was about to be

terrified because I was about to be living with people that were at least 60

living with people that were at least 60

living with people that were at least 60 years older than me who had seen life

years older than me who had seen life

years older than me who had seen life who had had all these challenges and

who had had all these challenges and

who had had all these challenges and Here I am 23 years old and I like fresh

Here I am 23 years old and I like fresh

Here I am 23 years old and I like fresh out of the gate how do I engage with

out of the gate how do I engage with

out of the gate how do I engage with them and you know what everything

them and you know what everything

them and you know what everything started to melt away when they begin to

started to melt away when they begin to

started to melt away when they begin to talk to them

talk to them

talk to them I especially leaned on the arts for this

I especially leaned on the arts for this

I especially leaned on the arts for this because as artists in residence and my

because as artists in residence and my

because as artists in residence and my kids in my title right but they began to

kids in my title right but they began to

kids in my title right but they began to talk about my love of music my love with

talk about my love of music my love with

talk about my love of music my love with the arts my love of theater and that’s

the arts my love of theater and that’s

the arts my love of theater and that’s when I really started to notice that we

when I really started to notice that we

when I really started to notice that we all have this inherent nature to want to

all have this inherent nature to want to

all have this inherent nature to want to relate to one another and as humans we

relate to one another and as humans we

relate to one another and as humans we also have this need to create or to

also have this need to create or to

also have this need to create or to externalize a piece of ourselves

externalize a piece of ourselves

externalize a piece of ourselves and we want others to be witness to that

and we want others to be witness to that

and we want others to be witness to that and what I mean by witnessing is being

and what I mean by witnessing is being

and what I mean by witnessing is being able to take the time to see or hear or

able to take the time to see or hear or

able to take the time to see or hear or touch smell taste

touch smell taste

touch smell taste something that someone else created so

something that someone else created so

something that someone else created so for example right now you are all

for example right now you are all

for example right now you are all sitting here and you’re witnessing me

sitting here and you’re witnessing me

sitting here and you’re witnessing me talk and so for example in what work I

talk and so for example in what work I

talk and so for example in what work I do is I run a community art group and we

do is I run a community art group and we

do is I run a community art group and we all get together so myself and about

all get together so myself and about

all get together so myself and about four or five of my other residents and

four or five of my other residents and

four or five of my other residents and we create art together we are there to

we create art together we are there to

we create art together we are there to witness each other’s process we’re we’re

witness each other’s process we’re we’re

witness each other’s process we’re we’re there to witness each other’s products

there to witness each other’s products

there to witness each other’s products that we make we are there to see the

that we make we are there to see the

that we make we are there to see the frustrations that come through making a

frustrations that come through making a

frustrations that come through making a piece of art because it can be

piece of art because it can be

piece of art because it can be frustrating we are there to see the

frustrating we are there to see the

frustrating we are there to see the triumphs that happen once we are able to

triumphs that happen once we are able to

triumphs that happen once we are able to overcome those frustrations and honestly

overcome those frustrations and honestly

overcome those frustrations and honestly through this process often times stories

through this process often times stories

through this process often times stories come up because you know when you’re

come up because you know when you’re

come up because you know when you’re creating a piece of art that’s a piece

creating a piece of art that’s a piece

creating a piece of art that’s a piece of your life that you’re externalize it

of your life that you’re externalize it

of your life that you’re externalize it you’re putting out there for everyone

you’re putting out there for everyone

you’re putting out there for everyone else to see and that can be very

else to see and that can be very

else to see and that can be very vulnerable and then my residents also

vulnerable and then my residents also

vulnerable and then my residents also link stories to that and they’ll start

link stories to that and they’ll start

link stories to that and they’ll start to kind of go on tangents to where you

to kind of go on tangents to where you

to kind of go on tangents to where you know we’ll be talking about you know a

know we’ll be talking about you know a

know we’ll be talking about you know a lighthouse that they visited one summer

lighthouse that they visited one summer

lighthouse that they visited one summer and then you know ten minutes later

and then you know ten minutes later

and then you know ten minutes later fifteen minutes later we’re talking

fifteen minutes later we’re talking

fifteen minutes later we’re talking about what the best recipe is to bake

about what the best recipe is to bake

about what the best recipe is to bake cookies like it’s completely tangental

cookies like it’s completely tangental

cookies like it’s completely tangental and it’s wonderful and so I really

and it’s wonderful and so I really

and it’s wonderful and so I really picked up on this this need to really

picked up on this this need to really

picked up on this this need to really share their stories and so I created a

share their stories and so I created a

share their stories and so I created a storytelling group as well just to allow

storytelling group as well just to allow

storytelling group as well just to allow for a little more structure and

for a little more structure and

for a little more structure and facilitation so every other week my

facilitation so every other week my

facilitation so every other week my residents come prepared with a story

residents come prepared with a story

residents come prepared with a story from their lives surrounding a certain

from their lives surrounding a certain

from their lives surrounding a certain topic so topics can range from

topic so topics can range from

topic so topics can range from travel to sports to scary stories to

travel to sports to scary stories to

travel to sports to scary stories to love to poetry just kind of a little bit

love to poetry just kind of a little bit

love to poetry just kind of a little bit of everything and I even have one person

of everything and I even have one person

of everything and I even have one person in my storytelling group that has a

in my storytelling group that has a

in my storytelling group that has a binder that’s like this thick of all the

binder that’s like this thick of all the

binder that’s like this thick of all the stories he’s written throughout his

stories he’s written throughout his

stories he’s written throughout his practice because he’s a retired doctor

practice because he’s a retired doctor

practice because he’s a retired doctor and he is one of the most phenomenal

and he is one of the most phenomenal

and he is one of the most phenomenal storytellers I’ve ever heard in my life

storytellers I’ve ever heard in my life

storytellers I’ve ever heard in my life every word that he says is so creative

every word that he says is so creative

every word that he says is so creative and captivating just the way that he

and captivating just the way that he

and captivating just the way that he uses his language and the words in his

uses his language and the words in his

uses his language and the words in his tone and my residents then are able to

tone and my residents then are able to

tone and my residents then are able to relate to him they’re able to witness

relate to him they’re able to witness

relate to him they’re able to witness these stories that he’s telling they’re

these stories that he’s telling they’re

these stories that he’s telling they’re able to internalize what’s happening but

able to internalize what’s happening but

able to internalize what’s happening but they’re being witness to and then

they’re being witness to and then

they’re being witness to and then they’re able to give feedback to him

they’re able to give feedback to him

they’re able to give feedback to him whether that’s through another story or

whether that’s through another story or

whether that’s through another story or oh my gosh that was just absolutely

oh my gosh that was just absolutely

oh my gosh that was just absolutely amazing

amazing

amazing and so I think this comes from again

and so I think this comes from again

and so I think this comes from again from this this inherent needs to relate

from this this inherent needs to relate

from this this inherent needs to relate to one another right we want to find

to one another right we want to find

to one another right we want to find those commonalities so that we’re able

those commonalities so that we’re able

those commonalities so that we’re able to say hey I’m like you in some way but

to say hey I’m like you in some way but

to say hey I’m like you in some way but I’ve also found that relationships can

I’ve also found that relationships can

I’ve also found that relationships can really be formed in differences and in

really be formed in differences and in

really be formed in differences and in my stories playing group I decided to

my stories playing group I decided to

my stories playing group I decided to practice what I preached one one time

practice what I preached one one time

practice what I preached one one time and I decided to share with my residents

and I decided to share with my residents

and I decided to share with my residents something that I loved but I didn’t

something that I loved but I didn’t

something that I loved but I didn’t think they were going to love and that’s

think they were going to love and that’s

think they were going to love and that’s slam poetry which can be very loud and

slam poetry which can be very loud and

slam poetry which can be very loud and abrupt sometimes abrasive and very sharp

abrupt sometimes abrasive and very sharp

abrupt sometimes abrasive and very sharp right I figured you know this is kind of

right I figured you know this is kind of

right I figured you know this is kind of similar to like rap it’s something

similar to like rap it’s something

similar to like rap it’s something that’s completely new and different

that’s completely new and different

that’s completely new and different something that they have probably never

something that they have probably never

something that they have probably never heard before and they month it or at

heard before and they month it or at

heard before and they month it or at least those that didn’t love it we’re

least those that didn’t love it we’re

least those that didn’t love it we’re really intrigued by it and they really

really intrigued by it and they really

really intrigued by it and they really appreciate it

appreciate it

appreciate it because somehow my generation had taken

because somehow my generation had taken

because somehow my generation had taken an art form that you know might have

an art form that you know might have

an art form that you know might have been dying out a little bit and we

been dying out a little bit and we

been dying out a little bit and we evolved it so that it’s still

evolved it so that it’s still

evolved it so that it’s still captivating and engaging I think there’s

captivating and engaging I think there’s

captivating and engaging I think there’s two big table takeaways from that story

two big table takeaways from that story

two big table takeaways from that story number one again we were able to relate

number one again we were able to relate

number one again we were able to relate to one another we were able to open each

to one another we were able to open each

to one another we were able to open each other up to new perspectives number two

other up to new perspectives number two

other up to new perspectives number two I had to eat my own words you see I had

I had to eat my own words you see I had

I had to eat my own words you see I had assumed that my residents were going to

assumed that my residents were going to

assumed that my residents were going to hate this art form because it was

hate this art form because it was

hate this art form because it was something completely new and it was

something completely new and it was

something completely new and it was something completely

something completely

something completely different and I had stigmatized them in

different and I had stigmatized them in

different and I had stigmatized them in that moment something I was actively

that moment something I was actively

that moment something I was actively trying to come back and just because you

trying to come back and just because you

trying to come back and just because you know it was something new and and I had

know it was something new and and I had

know it was something new and and I had to take a step back and really check

to take a step back and really check

to take a step back and really check myself in that moment and I know it

myself in that moment and I know it

myself in that moment and I know it comes as a shock and it comes as so

comes as a shock and it comes as so

comes as a shock and it comes as so surprising but the elderly generation is

surprising but the elderly generation is

surprising but the elderly generation is really intrigued and what the millennial

really intrigued and what the millennial

really intrigued and what the millennial generation is doing they really want to

generation is doing they really want to

generation is doing they really want to know what kids these days are up to and

know what kids these days are up to and

know what kids these days are up to and they’re always willing to try something

they’re always willing to try something

they’re always willing to try something new and that reminds me of a story that

new and that reminds me of a story that

new and that reminds me of a story that I really taken to heart one of my

I really taken to heart one of my

I really taken to heart one of my residents shared with me once that he

residents shared with me once that he

residents shared with me once that he has a sign that his daughter got him in

has a sign that his daughter got him in

has a sign that his daughter got him in his apartment that says I may be over

his apartment that says I may be over

his apartment that says I may be over the hill but the view was sure worth the

the hill but the view was sure worth the

the hill but the view was sure worth the climb and I was like okay yeah and then

climb and I was like okay yeah and then

climb and I was like okay yeah and then he was like I hate that side and I was

he was like I hate that side and I was

he was like I hate that side and I was like why he just said I don’t think we

like why he just said I don’t think we

like why he just said I don’t think we should ever stop climbing I don’t think

should ever stop climbing I don’t think

should ever stop climbing I don’t think we should ever stop learning and I think

we should ever stop learning and I think

we should ever stop learning and I think that’s something that I carried with me

that’s something that I carried with me

that’s something that I carried with me through this entire experience because

through this entire experience because

through this entire experience because that just gives you a whole new

that just gives you a whole new

that just gives you a whole new perspective that we should never stop

perspective that we should never stop

perspective that we should never stop climbing we should never stop learning

climbing we should never stop learning

climbing we should never stop learning from each other from new things from

from each other from new things from

from each other from new things from everything you know and so as I was

everything you know and so as I was

everything you know and so as I was thinking about you know okay so why

thinking about you know okay so why

thinking about you know okay so why don’t more people like me why don’t more

don’t more people like me why don’t more

don’t more people like me why don’t more Millennials engage with this elderly

Millennials engage with this elderly

Millennials engage with this elderly population I mean they’re so full of

population I mean they’re so full of

population I mean they’re so full of life they’re so full of resources and

life they’re so full of resources and

life they’re so full of resources and we’re just like oh you know maybe not I

we’re just like oh you know maybe not I

we’re just like oh you know maybe not I think it’s because they make us

think it’s because they make us

think it’s because they make us uncomfortable because they’re different

uncomfortable because they’re different

uncomfortable because they’re different from us

from us

from us and it’s just that feeling of other and

and it’s just that feeling of other and

and it’s just that feeling of other and I think the second part of it is it

I think the second part of it is it

I think the second part of it is it makes us face our own mortality I can

makes us face our own mortality I can

makes us face our own mortality I can say as a 23 year old I don’t think about

say as a 23 year old I don’t think about

say as a 23 year old I don’t think about that

that

that end-of-life case very often but the

end-of-life case very often but the

end-of-life case very often but the thing is is the people that I work with

thing is is the people that I work with

thing is is the people that I work with are dead they’re very much alive they’re

are dead they’re very much alive they’re

are dead they’re very much alive they’re so full of life in fact that I often

so full of life in fact that I often

so full of life in fact that I often have to try to keep up with them and I I

have to try to keep up with them and I I

have to try to keep up with them and I I guess from all of us I’m not saying you

guess from all of us I’m not saying you

guess from all of us I’m not saying you go out and be an artist and residence

go out and be an artist and residence

go out and be an artist and residence and live in a geriatric population what

and live in a geriatric population what

and live in a geriatric population what I’m asking from you is that next time

I’m asking from you is that next time

I’m asking from you is that next time you see them supposedly frail lady

you see them supposedly frail lady

you see them supposedly frail lady sitting across from you instead see the

sitting across from you instead see the

sitting across from you instead see the person sitting across from you see a

person sitting across from you see a

person sitting across from you see a body that has been lived in eyes that

body that has been lived in eyes that

body that has been lived in eyes that have seen so much and a soul that has

have seen so much and a soul that has

have seen so much and a soul that has seen countless challenges heartbreaks

seen countless challenges heartbreaks

seen countless challenges heartbreaks and joys ask that person the question

and joys ask that person the question

and joys ask that person the question whether that’s a simple how are you

whether that’s a simple how are you

whether that’s a simple how are you doing today or you know even what was it

doing today or you know even what was it

doing today or you know even what was it like to be alive when the Beatles were

like to be alive when the Beatles were

like to be alive when the Beatles were in full swing because I can guarantee

in full swing because I can guarantee

in full swing because I can guarantee you that that conversation you have with

you that that conversation you have with

you that that conversation you have with them it’s going to be so meaningful for

them it’s going to be so meaningful for

them it’s going to be so meaningful for both you and them you’re opening each

both you and them you’re opening each

both you and them you’re opening each other up to new perspectives and you’re

other up to new perspectives and you’re

other up to new perspectives and you’re together you can open the world up to

together you can open the world up to

together you can open the world up to each other so please never forget that

each other so please never forget that

each other so please never forget that you should never stop creating you

you should never stop creating you

you should never stop creating you should never stop relating and you

should never stop relating and you

should never stop relating and you should never stop learning thank you

should never stop learning thank you

should never stop learning thank you very much

very much

very much [Applause]

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