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what happens when you first think of how

what happens when you first think of how the government delivers public services

the government delivers public services

the government delivers public services let’s just think of what happens when we

let’s just think of what happens when we

let’s just think of what happens when we think of what is the government doing

think of what is the government doing

think of what is the government doing for us think of images what we think of

for us think of images what we think of

for us think of images what we think of is broken roads we all travel by them we

is broken roads we all travel by them we

is broken roads we all travel by them we think of the potholes like you know like

think of the potholes like you know like

think of the potholes like you know like a wonderful MC said we look at the rest

a wonderful MC said we look at the rest

a wonderful MC said we look at the rest and save up a talk you hear we think of

and save up a talk you hear we think of

and save up a talk you hear we think of a public education system I mean how

a public education system I mean how

a public education system I mean how many of us really would consider sending

many of us really would consider sending

many of us really would consider sending our children to a public school because

our children to a public school because

our children to a public school because we think that they are devoid of

we think that they are devoid of

we think that they are devoid of teachers and desks and benches we think

teachers and desks and benches we think

teachers and desks and benches we think of public hospitals and you know unless

of public hospitals and you know unless

of public hospitals and you know unless we really need to most of us don’t go

we really need to most of us don’t go

we really need to most of us don’t go there because we think it’s overcrowded

there because we think it’s overcrowded

there because we think it’s overcrowded and and the fact that there aren’t beds

and and the fact that there aren’t beds

and and the fact that there aren’t beds there are nurses that aren’t doctors and

there are nurses that aren’t doctors and

there are nurses that aren’t doctors and if we think of our sanitation system we

if we think of our sanitation system we

if we think of our sanitation system we just think of a pile of crap I mean

just think of a pile of crap I mean

just think of a pile of crap I mean that’s that’s what comes to mind

that’s that’s what comes to mind

that’s that’s what comes to mind so do none of us in this room is it

so do none of us in this room is it

so do none of us in this room is it surprising that we’re not exactly

surprising that we’re not exactly

surprising that we’re not exactly content with what the government is

content with what the government is

content with what the government is doing in terms of public services so the

doing in terms of public services so the

doing in terms of public services so the question is what’s the problem I mean

question is what’s the problem I mean

question is what’s the problem I mean where is the issue what is essentially

where is the issue what is essentially

where is the issue what is essentially stopping the government from doing this

stopping the government from doing this

stopping the government from doing this and most of us are first thought that we

and most of us are first thought that we

and most of us are first thought that we come up with is that we’re a poor

come up with is that we’re a poor

come up with is that we’re a poor country we do not have enough money or

country we do not have enough money or

country we do not have enough money or resources to be able to build good roads

resources to be able to build good roads

resources to be able to build good roads to be able to build good infrastructure

to be able to build good infrastructure

to be able to build good infrastructure hospitals schools but the fact is that

hospitals schools but the fact is that

hospitals schools but the fact is that that’s not entirely true the fact is it

that’s not entirely true the fact is it

that’s not entirely true the fact is it will not a poor country if you just look

will not a poor country if you just look

will not a poor country if you just look at the central government budget and the

at the central government budget and the

at the central government budget and the central government budget is often

central government budget is often

central government budget is often matched with the state government budget

matched with the state government budget

matched with the state government budget in terms of programs and welfare schemes

in terms of programs and welfare schemes

in terms of programs and welfare schemes you’ll see any program 19 mm

you’ll see any program 19 mm

you’ll see any program 19 mm look at our health mission our national

look at our health mission our national

look at our health mission our national health mission which is divided into

health mission which is divided into

health mission which is divided into urban and rural mission and what you’ll

urban and rural mission and what you’ll

urban and rural mission and what you’ll notice is there’s a lot of money that

notice is there’s a lot of money that

notice is there’s a lot of money that exists in the system the second thought

exists in the system the second thought

exists in the system the second thought which we have is that potentially there

which we have is that potentially there

which we have is that potentially there is corruption there are leakages so what

is corruption there are leakages so what

is corruption there are leakages so what if there is money they clearly are going

if there is money they clearly are going

if there is money they clearly are going in the wrong hands and perhaps that’s

in the wrong hands and perhaps that’s

in the wrong hands and perhaps that’s one of the big issues and there is some

one of the big issues and there is some

one of the big issues and there is some truth to that

truth to that

truth to that there is in fact some amount of leakages

there is in fact some amount of leakages

there is in fact some amount of leakages which happens but that’s not the only

which happens but that’s not the only

which happens but that’s not the only issue which comes up so essentially if

issue which comes up so essentially if

issue which comes up so essentially if we look at what is going on we in 2012

we look at what is going on we in 2012

we look at what is going on we in 2012 we started on

we started on

we started on this journey we wanted to see what is

this journey we wanted to see what is

this journey we wanted to see what is going on at the ground level what is

going on at the ground level what is

going on at the ground level what is happening why is public service not

happening why is public service not

happening why is public service not being delivered and we reached out to a

being delivered and we reached out to a

being delivered and we reached out to a Member of Parliament an MP from Barak

Member of Parliament an MP from Barak

Member of Parliament an MP from Barak bush and our thinking was that look MPs

bush and our thinking was that look MPs

bush and our thinking was that look MPs are usually the first person that you

are usually the first person that you

are usually the first person that you would the the electorate goes towards

would the the electorate goes towards

would the the electorate goes towards the citizen goes to to say there’s this

the citizen goes to to say there’s this

the citizen goes to to say there’s this issue and so the MP from bericht will

issue and so the MP from bericht will

issue and so the MP from bericht will essentially told us that in jute mills

essentially told us that in jute mills

essentially told us that in jute mills which is a major part of his

which is a major part of his

which is a major part of his constituency the workers will suffering

constituency the workers will suffering

constituency the workers will suffering major health concerns such major health

major health concerns such major health

major health concerns such major health concerns that it was frightening for him

concerns that it was frightening for him

concerns that it was frightening for him every time he went back to the

every time he went back to the

every time he went back to the constituency and had a discussion with

constituency and had a discussion with

constituency and had a discussion with them so obviously we were curious and

them so obviously we were curious and

them so obviously we were curious and and a team of us went into the ground to

and a team of us went into the ground to

and a team of us went into the ground to see what was happening now the jute mill

see what was happening now the jute mill

see what was happening now the jute mill essentially employed anywhere between 30

essentially employed anywhere between 30

essentially employed anywhere between 30 to 50 thousand people in that community

to 50 thousand people in that community

to 50 thousand people in that community and when you walked into the jute mill

and when you walked into the jute mill

and when you walked into the jute mill if you think that pollution in Delhi is

if you think that pollution in Delhi is

if you think that pollution in Delhi is bad this was about 10 times worse you

bad this was about 10 times worse you

bad this was about 10 times worse you could see mattered in the air what you

could see mattered in the air what you

could see mattered in the air what you were breathing in and essentially you

were breathing in and essentially you

were breathing in and essentially you could see it was very obvious why people

could see it was very obvious why people

could see it was very obvious why people were suffering from respiratory diseases

were suffering from respiratory diseases

were suffering from respiratory diseases so we did it as report we tried to

so we did it as report we tried to

so we did it as report we tried to understand what’s going on really and

understand what’s going on really and

understand what’s going on really and what we noticed was about 90 percent of

what we noticed was about 90 percent of

what we noticed was about 90 percent of all workers in the jute mill were either

all workers in the jute mill were either

all workers in the jute mill were either at high risk of respiratory disease or

at high risk of respiratory disease or

at high risk of respiratory disease or already had one we moved on to figuring

already had one we moved on to figuring

already had one we moved on to figuring out the solution clearly there’s a

out the solution clearly there’s a

out the solution clearly there’s a problem we know that it’s affecting a

problem we know that it’s affecting a

problem we know that it’s affecting a lot of people the MP is clearly wanting

lot of people the MP is clearly wanting

lot of people the MP is clearly wanting to bring in a solution what do we do

to bring in a solution what do we do

to bring in a solution what do we do what we noticed was that there is

what we noticed was that there is

what we noticed was that there is someone called a jute mill commissioners

someone called a jute mill commissioners

someone called a jute mill commissioners who’s there at a state level now this is

who’s there at a state level now this is

who’s there at a state level now this is a very minor fact which most of us would

a very minor fact which most of us would

a very minor fact which most of us would not know but the fact is that the jute

not know but the fact is that the jute

not know but the fact is that the jute mill commissioners in this case

mill commissioners in this case

mill commissioners in this case essentially sits on a pot of fun which

essentially sits on a pot of fun which

essentially sits on a pot of fun which is responsible for the welfare of the

is responsible for the welfare of the

is responsible for the welfare of the workers of the factory workers we went

workers of the factory workers we went

workers of the factory workers we went ahead and we held health camps we went

ahead and we held health camps we went

ahead and we held health camps we went ahead and we did Street Theatre we went

ahead and we did Street Theatre we went

ahead and we did Street Theatre we went ahead and tried to create awareness

ahead and tried to create awareness

ahead and tried to create awareness around the fact that it was unsafe to be

around the fact that it was unsafe to be

around the fact that it was unsafe to be in the factory ground without a mask if

in the factory ground without a mask if

in the factory ground without a mask if you are essentially breathing in that

you are essentially breathing in that

you are essentially breathing in that air that’s not good for you as we’re

air that’s not good for you as we’re

air that’s not good for you as we’re doing this we realized that there is

doing this we realized that there is

doing this we realized that there is something else which exists there is a

something else which exists there is a

something else which exists there is a national government scheme which

national government scheme which

national government scheme which essentially enrolls workers so that you

essentially enrolls workers so that you

essentially enrolls workers so that you can get insurance and be treated in a

can get insurance and be treated in a

can get insurance and be treated in a public order private hospitals so one of

public order private hospitals so one of

public order private hospitals so one of the big initiatives which we had was

the big initiatives which we had was

the big initiatives which we had was enrolling all of these 30,000 workers in

enrolling all of these 30,000 workers in

enrolling all of these 30,000 workers in one of the factories into the programs

one of the factories into the programs

one of the factories into the programs now that alone was transformational

now that alone was transformational

now that alone was transformational because now you had workers most of whom

because now you had workers most of whom

because now you had workers most of whom did not even know that such a program

did not even know that such a program

did not even know that such a program existed come in and work in the system

existed come in and work in the system

existed come in and work in the system what this essentially points out in

what this essentially points out in

what this essentially points out in terms of our framework is that there are

terms of our framework is that there are

terms of our framework is that there are some gaps which exist and specifically

some gaps which exist and specifically

some gaps which exist and specifically there are three gaps which exist the

there are three gaps which exist the

there are three gaps which exist the first is that oftentimes there is a

first is that oftentimes there is a

first is that oftentimes there is a knowledge deficit a bureaucrat a dude

knowledge deficit a bureaucrat a dude

knowledge deficit a bureaucrat a dude male commissioner sitting in some

male commissioner sitting in some

male commissioner sitting in some faraway district in West Bengal might

faraway district in West Bengal might

faraway district in West Bengal might not necessarily know what is going on

not necessarily know what is going on

not necessarily know what is going on they might not necessarily know how many

they might not necessarily know how many

they might not necessarily know how many people are enrolled and what the ground

people are enrolled and what the ground

people are enrolled and what the ground realities are and essentially there is a

realities are and essentially there is a

realities are and essentially there is a need to connect those two points there

need to connect those two points there

need to connect those two points there is a knowledge gap which exists there is

is a knowledge gap which exists there is

is a knowledge gap which exists there is a gap which exists on understanding

a gap which exists on understanding

a gap which exists on understanding there are some 74 schemes that exist to

there are some 74 schemes that exist to

there are some 74 schemes that exist to support the poor and what we’re trying

support the poor and what we’re trying

support the poor and what we’re trying to do essentially is create that

to do essentially is create that

to do essentially is create that awareness and that knowledge about what

awareness and that knowledge about what

awareness and that knowledge about what are the different pieces which are there

are the different pieces which are there

are the different pieces which are there the second piece piece which exists is I

the second piece piece which exists is I

the second piece piece which exists is I understand what the problem is but again

understand what the problem is but again

understand what the problem is but again that mentality of we’re a poor country

that mentality of we’re a poor country

that mentality of we’re a poor country we don’t have enough money where are the

we don’t have enough money where are the

we don’t have enough money where are the resources where some money going to be

resources where some money going to be

resources where some money going to be pulled out of being able to create that

pulled out of being able to create that

pulled out of being able to create that Segway and to say this is where these

Segway and to say this is where these

Segway and to say this is where these sources can be pulled out of and

sources can be pulled out of and

sources can be pulled out of and pointing out specifically where the

pointing out specifically where the

pointing out specifically where the money resources lie is is a big piece

money resources lie is is a big piece

money resources lie is is a big piece which we’re working on solving and the

which we’re working on solving and the

which we’re working on solving and the third piece which we’re working on is

third piece which we’re working on is

third piece which we’re working on is actually having people on the ground

actually having people on the ground

actually having people on the ground currently we have the bureaucrats we

currently we have the bureaucrats we

currently we have the bureaucrats we have what are the executing capacity is

have what are the executing capacity is

have what are the executing capacity is one-fifth of that of let’s say compared

one-fifth of that of let’s say compared

one-fifth of that of let’s say compared to the United States we are very

to the United States we are very

to the United States we are very understaffed on the ground our

understaffed on the ground our

understaffed on the ground our decision-makers are very few when our

decision-makers are very few when our

decision-makers are very few when our work is huge especially considering each

work is huge especially considering each

work is huge especially considering each districts gets allocated significant

districts gets allocated significant

districts gets allocated significant amount of resources and yet there’s so

amount of resources and yet there’s so

amount of resources and yet there’s so much work to do that all we do is

much work to do that all we do is

much work to do that all we do is disperse money hoping that if we get

disperse money hoping that if we get

disperse money hoping that if we get done so then we started thinking about

done so then we started thinking about

done so then we started thinking about that this is good and fine so we have

that this is good and fine so we have

that this is good and fine so we have people who go into the ground who

people who go into the ground who

people who go into the ground who connect the right hand to the left hand

connect the right hand to the left hand

connect the right hand to the left hand who figure out that there is a

who figure out that there is a

who figure out that there is a a problem come up with a solution and

a problem come up with a solution and

a problem come up with a solution and mobilize resources this is

mobilize resources this is

mobilize resources this is understandable there is a gap which is

understandable there is a gap which is

understandable there is a gap which is fulfilled but what do you do in the

fulfilled but what do you do in the

fulfilled but what do you do in the longer term essentially how do you

longer term essentially how do you

longer term essentially how do you figure out that in the longer term we

figure out that in the longer term we

figure out that in the longer term we need to have the backend system within

need to have the backend system within

need to have the backend system within the government administration to be able

the government administration to be able

the government administration to be able to sustain these models of understanding

to sustain these models of understanding

to sustain these models of understanding what is happening on the ground and

what is happening on the ground and

what is happening on the ground and create corrective measures so we tried

create corrective measures so we tried

create corrective measures so we tried something new in Balasore which is a

something new in Balasore which is a

something new in Balasore which is a district in Orissa essentially in Bala

district in Orissa essentially in Bala

district in Orissa essentially in Bala soil what we said was what if we had a

soil what we said was what if we had a

soil what we said was what if we had a back-end dashboard what if we had a

back-end dashboard what if we had a

back-end dashboard what if we had a real-time platform for district

real-time platform for district

real-time platform for district officials where I could as a district

officials where I could as a district

officials where I could as a district official see at a household level that

official see at a household level that

official see at a household level that these are the schemes and programs that

these are the schemes and programs that

these are the schemes and programs that this family has access to and this is

this family has access to and this is

this family has access to and this is where the resources are coming in from

where the resources are coming in from

where the resources are coming in from and are they matching so for example

and are they matching so for example

and are they matching so for example there is a yogena which essentially

there is a yogena which essentially

there is a yogena which essentially allows for people to build houses this

allows for people to build houses this

allows for people to build houses this is very big in Orissa the assumption

is very big in Orissa the assumption

is very big in Orissa the assumption that a district magistrate would have is

that a district magistrate would have is

that a district magistrate would have is that so much money is coming in clearly

that so much money is coming in clearly

that so much money is coming in clearly they are going to be a lot of people who

they are going to be a lot of people who

they are going to be a lot of people who are accessing the scheme but I don’t

are accessing the scheme but I don’t

are accessing the scheme but I don’t necessarily know if that’s true what we

necessarily know if that’s true what we

necessarily know if that’s true what we did was we essentially went ahead and at

did was we essentially went ahead and at

did was we essentially went ahead and at a household level went and asked the

a household level went and asked the

a household level went and asked the question how many people have access to

question how many people have access to

question how many people have access to the scheme and went ahead and then

the scheme and went ahead and then

the scheme and went ahead and then provided a real-time geotag platform to

provided a real-time geotag platform to

provided a real-time geotag platform to say okay these are the number of houses

say okay these are the number of houses

say okay these are the number of houses who do have them and this is who doesn’t

who do have them and this is who doesn’t

who do have them and this is who doesn’t have them and by the way this is how

have them and by the way this is how

have them and by the way this is how much money you have available so what we

much money you have available so what we

much money you have available so what we did was we try to connect the whole

did was we try to connect the whole

did was we try to connect the whole platform right now we have a team of

platform right now we have a team of

platform right now we have a team of people who are working there and it’s

people who are working there and it’s

people who are working there and it’s the little things right it’s it’s the

the little things right it’s it’s the

the little things right it’s it’s the going ahead and realizing that there’s a

going ahead and realizing that there’s a

going ahead and realizing that there’s a healthcare center that needs to be

healthcare center that needs to be

healthcare center that needs to be really done and rebuilding it it’s going

really done and rebuilding it it’s going

really done and rebuilding it it’s going ahead and holding information session

ahead and holding information session

ahead and holding information session with farmers groups and saying that this

with farmers groups and saying that this

with farmers groups and saying that this is how you can get money out of the

is how you can get money out of the

is how you can get money out of the system and this is what you need to do

system and this is what you need to do

system and this is what you need to do it’s connecting the dots so what does

it’s connecting the dots so what does

it’s connecting the dots so what does that mean for us what does it really

that mean for us what does it really

that mean for us what does it really telling us what is the main takeaway

telling us what is the main takeaway

telling us what is the main takeaway today the fact of the matter is that we

today the fact of the matter is that we

today the fact of the matter is that we think that a government is too big a

think that a government is too big a

think that a government is too big a bureaucracy is too bloated and the fact

bureaucracy is too bloated and the fact

bureaucracy is too bloated and the fact that we don’t have enough systems or

that we don’t have enough systems or

that we don’t have enough systems or enough money in fact the opposite is

enough money in fact the opposite is

enough money in fact the opposite is true in each case the fact is that a

true in each case the fact is that a

true in each case the fact is that a bureaucracy is too lean

bureaucracy is too lean

bureaucracy is too lean we don’t have enough government support

we don’t have enough government support

we don’t have enough government support that needs to be created the fact is

that needs to be created the fact is

that needs to be created the fact is that we have enough money to be able to

that we have enough money to be able to

that we have enough money to be able to create crown level impact what we need

create crown level impact what we need

create crown level impact what we need is you

is you

is you what we need is smart engaged citizens

what we need is smart engaged citizens

what we need is smart engaged citizens to be involved in the process of

to be involved in the process of

to be involved in the process of governance and nation-building so as

governance and nation-building so as

governance and nation-building so as we’re celebrating you think more

we’re celebrating you think more

we’re celebrating you think more actively about how you can be a part of

actively about how you can be a part of

actively about how you can be a part of this nation building process because we

this nation building process because we

this nation building process because we really need you in governance thank you

really need you in governance thank you

really need you in governance thank you [Applause]

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