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Conversation Matters | Janie Lazar | TEDxDrogheda


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[Applause] everything begins for the conversation

everything begins for the conversation

everything begins for the conversation whether it’s the chatter inside your

whether it’s the chatter inside your

whether it’s the chatter inside your head or those external everyday

head or those external everyday

head or those external everyday conversations that we all have for me it

conversations that we all have for me it

conversations that we all have for me it could be a Hello with the postman an

could be a Hello with the postman an

could be a Hello with the postman an exchange with my fellow swimmers before

exchange with my fellow swimmers before

exchange with my fellow swimmers before we dive into the freezing sea it could

we dive into the freezing sea it could

we dive into the freezing sea it could be a chinwag

be a chinwag

be a chinwag over a coffee in my local cafe where

over a coffee in my local cafe where

over a coffee in my local cafe where they really do know my name all of these

they really do know my name all of these

they really do know my name all of these encounters matter because they give me a

encounters matter because they give me a

encounters matter because they give me a sense of belonging a sense of place and

sense of belonging a sense of place and

sense of belonging a sense of place and the reason why all of these

the reason why all of these

the reason why all of these conversations these exchanges matter

conversations these exchanges matter

conversations these exchanges matter it’s because they fulfill our

it’s because they fulfill our

it’s because they fulfill our fundamental needs to connect our words

fundamental needs to connect our words

fundamental needs to connect our words matter language matters we only have to

matter language matters we only have to

matter language matters we only have to look across to America or to the UK with

look across to America or to the UK with

look across to America or to the UK with brexit and you can see how easily words

brexit and you can see how easily words

brexit and you can see how easily words can unite and they can divide whether

can unite and they can divide whether

can unite and they can divide whether you’ve had to move countries or you’ve

you’ve had to move countries or you’ve

you’ve had to move countries or you’ve chosen to move countries out of choices

chosen to move countries out of choices

chosen to move countries out of choices or necessity it can be a very alienating

or necessity it can be a very alienating

or necessity it can be a very alienating very disconcerting experience I’m sure

very disconcerting experience I’m sure

very disconcerting experience I’m sure there people in the audience tonight who

there people in the audience tonight who

there people in the audience tonight who have made that transition so you imagine

have made that transition so you imagine

have made that transition so you imagine for a moment when everything that is

for a moment when everything that is

for a moment when everything that is familiar is gone all of those landmarks

familiar is gone all of those landmarks

familiar is gone all of those landmarks that make you feel at home your

that make you feel at home your

that make you feel at home your community is completely vanished and you

community is completely vanished and you

community is completely vanished and you have to start again

learning a language then can be a

learning a language then can be a lifeline a new language neatly be a

lifeline a new language neatly be a

lifeline a new language neatly be a barrier but I see it more as a carrier a

barrier but I see it more as a carrier a

barrier but I see it more as a carrier a carrier into a new life of possibilities

carrier into a new life of possibilities

carrier into a new life of possibilities and it’s a little bit like a dance you

and it’s a little bit like a dance you

and it’s a little bit like a dance you have to learn the steps because if you

have to learn the steps because if you

have to learn the steps because if you imagine inside your head you already

imagine inside your head you already

imagine inside your head you already have a data bank of knowledge of images

have a data bank of knowledge of images

have a data bank of knowledge of images of words in your own language so

of words in your own language so

of words in your own language so learning anew

learning anew

learning anew which gives you extra steps you just

which gives you extra steps you just

which gives you extra steps you just have to get them in the right sequence

have to get them in the right sequence

have to get them in the right sequence obviously it’s not as easy as that but

obviously it’s not as easy as that but

obviously it’s not as easy as that but it’s a process many years ago I spent

it’s a process many years ago I spent

it’s a process many years ago I spent some time in France and I won’t tell you

some time in France and I won’t tell you

some time in France and I won’t tell you about all of the cultural blunders the

about all of the cultural blunders the

about all of the cultural blunders the linguistic blunders what I remember most

linguistic blunders what I remember most

linguistic blunders what I remember most about that time 30-plus he hid this

about that time 30-plus he hid this

about that time 30-plus he hid this later

later

later it’s astonishing how time flies at the

it’s astonishing how time flies at the

it’s astonishing how time flies at the moments of connection not the mistakes

moments of connection not the mistakes

moments of connection not the mistakes at all in later years when I came back

at all in later years when I came back

at all in later years when I came back to Dublin

to Dublin

to Dublin that was another transition and getting

that was another transition and getting

that was another transition and getting used to a different society a different

used to a different society a different

used to a different society a different way of doing things I did make one

way of doing things I did make one

way of doing things I did make one fundamental error I assumes coming from

fundamental error I assumes coming from

fundamental error I assumes coming from the teeming metropolis my city London

the teeming metropolis my city London

the teeming metropolis my city London that the cultures would be the same

that the cultures would be the same

that the cultures would be the same never assume that they are totally

never assume that they are totally

never assume that they are totally totally different

totally different

totally different I had many conversations with people in

I had many conversations with people in

I had many conversations with people in companies individuals and what I came to

companies individuals and what I came to

companies individuals and what I came to read on this was there’s a big gap

read on this was there’s a big gap

read on this was there’s a big gap disconnect if you like and what I wanted

disconnect if you like and what I wanted

disconnect if you like and what I wanted to do is an extension of my work I

to do is an extension of my work I

to do is an extension of my work I wanted to do something that would be

wanted to do something that would be

wanted to do something that would be useful would be value Winston Churchill

useful would be value Winston Churchill

useful would be value Winston Churchill said we make a living by what we get we

said we make a living by what we get we

said we make a living by what we get we make a life by what we give

last year I set up something called the

last year I set up something called the multi cultural exchange essentially it

multi cultural exchange essentially it

multi cultural exchange essentially it brings non native language speakers

brings non native language speakers

brings non native language speakers together and we follow if you like it’s

together and we follow if you like it’s

together and we follow if you like it’s an informal program of personal

an informal program of personal

an informal program of personal development combined with creative

development combined with creative

development combined with creative thinking really looking at different

thinking really looking at different

thinking really looking at different needs within the group and I have

needs within the group and I have

needs within the group and I have learned so much from them in fact it’s

learned so much from them in fact it’s

learned so much from them in fact it’s probably the reason that I’m able to

probably the reason that I’m able to

probably the reason that I’m able to stand here now and I’ll share some of

stand here now and I’ll share some of

stand here now and I’ll share some of those insights with you they’re like

those insights with you they’re like

those insights with you they’re like courageous explorers because quite often

courageous explorers because quite often

courageous explorers because quite often the mountains that they have to climb

the mountains that they have to climb

the mountains that they have to climb are really high and there’s so many

are really high and there’s so many

are really high and there’s so many obstacles in the way and we have people

obstacles in the way and we have people

obstacles in the way and we have people evolved

evolved

evolved nationalities and a few of them I’d like

nationalities and a few of them I’d like

nationalities and a few of them I’d like to talk to you about now Alexandra for

to talk to you about now Alexandra for

to talk to you about now Alexandra for her connection is everything

her connection is everything

her connection is everything relationships when she came to island

relationships when she came to island

relationships when she came to island from Poland she saw it as shedding an

from Poland she saw it as shedding an

from Poland she saw it as shedding an old skin and creating if you like a new

old skin and creating if you like a new

old skin and creating if you like a new one but she knew how tough that outer

one but she knew how tough that outer

one but she knew how tough that outer skin was would determine how well she

skin was would determine how well she

skin was would determine how well she would do she said the best form of self

would do she said the best form of self

would do she said the best form of self development is to go learn a new

development is to go learn a new

development is to go learn a new language and a new culture Livia Livia

language and a new culture Livia Livia

language and a new culture Livia Livia said living through another language

said living through another language

said living through another language made her reexamine her own culture how

made her reexamine her own culture how

made her reexamine her own culture how things were done in Spain different

things were done in Spain different

things were done in Spain different traditions but also helped to integrate

traditions but also helped to integrate

traditions but also helped to integrate here and the work that we’re doing has

here and the work that we’re doing has

here and the work that we’re doing has helped her reshape her thinking given a

helped her reshape her thinking given a

helped her reshape her thinking given a different focus Adrian who describes

different focus Adrian who describes

different focus Adrian who describes himself as an introvert but in actual

himself as an introvert but in actual

himself as an introvert but in actual fact we’ve learned differently because

fact we’ve learned differently because

fact we’ve learned differently because he’s really if you like transformed into

he’s really if you like transformed into

he’s really if you like transformed into into another type of person what he is

into another type of person what he is

into another type of person what he is found with what we’re doing is that it’s

found with what we’re doing is that it’s

found with what we’re doing is that it’s created what I would call a parallel

created what I would call a parallel

created what I would call a parallel community or not I would call he called

community or not I would call he called

community or not I would call he called it that because it sits outside his

it that because it sits outside his

it that because it sits outside his family absolute his friends outside the

family absolute his friends outside the

family absolute his friends outside the Moravian community what it does is give

Moravian community what it does is give

Moravian community what it does is give him soar elsewhere he can express

him soar elsewhere he can express

him soar elsewhere he can express himself freely develop different ideas

himself freely develop different ideas

himself freely develop different ideas and the other person I’d like to tell

and the other person I’d like to tell

and the other person I’d like to tell you about is Santiago Santiago is a

you about is Santiago Santiago is a

you about is Santiago Santiago is a writer and as you might imagine a writer

writer and as you might imagine a writer

writer and as you might imagine a writer is very particular with their words he’s

is very particular with their words he’s

is very particular with their words he’s a perfectionist he loves to get

a perfectionist he loves to get

a perfectionist he loves to get everything exactly right one day we had

everything exactly right one day we had

everything exactly right one day we had had fairly lively discussion a lot of

had fairly lively discussion a lot of

had fairly lively discussion a lot of free thinking pretty high-level stuff

free thinking pretty high-level stuff

free thinking pretty high-level stuff everyone was really chatting and really

everyone was really chatting and really

everyone was really chatting and really engaged at the end of it we turned and

engaged at the end of it we turned and

engaged at the end of it we turned and looked at me and he said

looked at me and he said

looked at me and he said I know what you’re doing here my heart

I know what you’re doing here my heart

I know what you’re doing here my heart began to pound and I was quite worried

began to pound and I was quite worried

began to pound and I was quite worried because sometimes sometimes things get

because sometimes sometimes things get

because sometimes sometimes things get quite emotional I said all mine I take

quite emotional I said all mine I take

quite emotional I said all mine I take thee listen to what’s been going on I’ve

thee listen to what’s been going on I’ve

thee listen to what’s been going on I’ve contributed to the conversations here

contributed to the conversations here

contributed to the conversations here I’ve understood everything and then

I’ve understood everything and then

I’ve understood everything and then there was a deadly silence and his face

there was a deadly silence and his face

there was a deadly silence and his face transformed biggest smile and he said we

transformed biggest smile and he said we

transformed biggest smile and he said we might be doing it in English when you

might be doing it in English when you

might be doing it in English when you get those moments for me it makes my

get those moments for me it makes my

get those moments for me it makes my heart sing you know that somebody has

heart sing you know that somebody has

heart sing you know that somebody has moved over and they’ve got that they’re

moved over and they’ve got that they’re

moved over and they’ve got that they’re engaged in what they’re doing they’re

engaged in what they’re doing they’re

engaged in what they’re doing they’re not thinking that they’re thinking in

not thinking that they’re thinking in

not thinking that they’re thinking in another language they’re just talking

another language they’re just talking

another language they’re just talking they’ve got the steps of the dance

they’ve got the steps of the dance

they’ve got the steps of the dance really flowing the multicultural

really flowing the multicultural

really flowing the multicultural exchange has three guiding principles

exchange has three guiding principles

exchange has three guiding principles connection collaboration and confidence

connection collaboration and confidence

connection collaboration and confidence because that’s the ultimate destination

because that’s the ultimate destination

because that’s the ultimate destination connection I think is so important

connection I think is so important

connection I think is so important because no matter how much technology

because no matter how much technology

because no matter how much technology advances there is always going to be a

advances there is always going to be a

advances there is always going to be a need for that connection but human

need for that connection but human

need for that connection but human warmth the kindness the face-to-face

warmth the kindness the face-to-face

warmth the kindness the face-to-face interaction that we pray for and it is

interaction that we pray for and it is

interaction that we pray for and it is funny because in this world where more

funny because in this world where more

funny because in this world where more and more connected to technology but

and more connected to technology but

and more connected to technology but where ever more disconnected and what

where ever more disconnected and what

where ever more disconnected and what people want is engagement firstly I

people want is engagement firstly I

people want is engagement firstly I don’t get it the second guiding

don’t get it the second guiding

don’t get it the second guiding principle is the sharing of intellect

principle is the sharing of intellect

principle is the sharing of intellect and skills I don’t mention attitude

and skills I don’t mention attitude

and skills I don’t mention attitude because courageous explorers have it in

because courageous explorers have it in

because courageous explorers have it in them in abundance and obviously then we

them in abundance and obviously then we

them in abundance and obviously then we come on to confidence the final story

come on to confidence the final story

come on to confidence the final story I’d like to tell you is the story of

I’d like to tell you is the story of

I’d like to tell you is the story of indian-born a shop he came from India in

indian-born a shop he came from India in

indian-born a shop he came from India in 1970 when his son

1970 when his son

1970 when his son was born in 1979 just 1% of the births

was born in 1979 just 1% of the births

was born in 1979 just 1% of the births registered were of ethnic origin that

registered were of ethnic origin that

registered were of ethnic origin that figure rose to 17% the same year that

figure rose to 17% the same year that

figure rose to 17% the same year that his son who was openly gay or is openly

his son who was openly gay or is openly

his son who was openly gay or is openly gay son of an immigrant became tisha

gay son of an immigrant became tisha

gay son of an immigrant became tisha Island is changing but I believe it’s

Island is changing but I believe it’s

Island is changing but I believe it’s down to us we have a collective

down to us we have a collective

down to us we have a collective responsibility to facilitate inclusion

responsibility to facilitate inclusion

responsibility to facilitate inclusion to have those conversations and this is

to have those conversations and this is

to have those conversations and this is why conversation matters and we can do

why conversation matters and we can do

why conversation matters and we can do it one conversation at a time somebody

it one conversation at a time somebody

it one conversation at a time somebody put this very succinctly and I ever

put this very succinctly and I ever

put this very succinctly and I ever heard it the other day so I can’t claim

heard it the other day so I can’t claim

heard it the other day so I can’t claim it as my own line but they said don’t

it as my own line but they said don’t

it as my own line but they said don’t just invite me to the party invite me to

just invite me to the party invite me to

just invite me to the party invite me to dance

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