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BUILDING EMPATHY: How to hack empathy and get others to care more | Jamil Zaki | TEDxMarin


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[Music] I’m gonna read you a couple of

I’m gonna read you a couple of

I’m gonna read you a couple of statements and I want you to tell me how

statements and I want you to tell me how

statements and I want you to tell me how well each one describes you through a

well each one describes you through a

well each one describes you through a show of fingers show of fingers yes a

show of fingers show of fingers yes a

show of fingers show of fingers yes a show of fingers if it doesn’t describe

show of fingers if it doesn’t describe

show of fingers if it doesn’t describe you at all hold up one finger if it fits

you at all hold up one finger if it fits

you at all hold up one finger if it fits you to a tee hold up five somewhere in

you to a tee hold up five somewhere in

you to a tee hold up five somewhere in between two three or four got it all

between two three or four got it all

between two three or four got it all right let’s try I often have tender

right let’s try I often have tender

right let’s try I often have tender concerned feelings for people less

concerned feelings for people less

concerned feelings for people less fortunate than me how well does that

fortunate than me how well does that

fortunate than me how well does that describe you all right let’s try again I

describe you all right let’s try again I

describe you all right let’s try again I tried to look at everyone’s side of a

tried to look at everyone’s side of a

tried to look at everyone’s side of a disagreement before I make a decision

disagreement before I make a decision

disagreement before I make a decision how about that one Wow impressive

how about that one Wow impressive

how about that one Wow impressive the more you agree with statements like

the more you agree with statements like

the more you agree with statements like these the more you experience empathy a

these the more you experience empathy a

these the more you experience empathy a simple word for a complex idea think

simple word for a complex idea think

simple word for a complex idea think back to the last time that a friend of

back to the last time that a friend of

back to the last time that a friend of yours was upset

yours was upset

yours was upset maybe you got his emotion and became

maybe you got his emotion and became

maybe you got his emotion and became upset too but maybe you also tried to

upset too but maybe you also tried to

upset too but maybe you also tried to piece together what it is he felt and

piece together what it is he felt and

piece together what it is he felt and why empathy comprises both of these

why empathy comprises both of these

why empathy comprises both of these abilities to share and also to

abilities to share and also to

abilities to share and also to understand what other people are going

understand what other people are going

understand what other people are going through the empathy in this room very

through the empathy in this room very

through the empathy in this room very high maybe not surprisingly and people’s

high maybe not surprisingly and people’s

high maybe not surprisingly and people’s collective empathy is like the human

collective empathy is like the human

collective empathy is like the human equivalent of a natural resource it’s a

equivalent of a natural resource it’s a

equivalent of a natural resource it’s a precious one empathic people benefit in

precious one empathic people benefit in

precious one empathic people benefit in all sorts of ways they are happier and

all sorts of ways they are happier and

all sorts of ways they are happier and attract friends more easily than their

attract friends more easily than their

attract friends more easily than their less empathic peers they excel at work

less empathic peers they excel at work

less empathic peers they excel at work especially if their work involves people

especially if their work involves people

especially if their work involves people like sales or management empathise

like sales or management empathise

like sales or management empathise benefits ripple outward to patients of

benefits ripple outward to patients of

benefits ripple outward to patients of empathic doctors report less depression

empathic doctors report less depression

empathic doctors report less depression employees of empathic managers are less

employees of empathic managers are less

employees of empathic managers are less stressed and empathic people’s romantic

stressed and empathic people’s romantic

stressed and empathic people’s romantic partners are more satisfied in their

partners are more satisfied in their

partners are more satisfied in their relationships but the news is not all

relationships but the news is not all

relationships but the news is not all good for one our collective empathy is

good for one our collective empathy is

good for one our collective empathy is eroding over time take the questions

eroding over time take the questions

eroding over time take the questions like the one I just asked you people

like the one I just asked you people

like the one I just asked you people have been answering questions like these

have been answering questions like these

have been answering questions like these for decades

for decades

for decades allowing psychologists to map our

allowing psychologists to map our

allowing psychologists to map our collective empathy over time here’s the

collective empathy over time here’s the

collective empathy over time here’s the average empathy score in 1979 and

average empathy score in 1979 and

average empathy score in 1979 and thirty years later in that time empathy

thirty years later in that time empathy

thirty years later in that time empathy had decreased so much that the average

had decreased so much that the average

had decreased so much that the average person was less empathic than

person was less empathic than

person was less empathic than three-quarters of people thirty years

three-quarters of people thirty years

three-quarters of people thirty years before and even people who try to be

before and even people who try to be

before and even people who try to be generally empathic can find it difficult

generally empathic can find it difficult

generally empathic can find it difficult in some circumstances think back to a

in some circumstances think back to a

in some circumstances think back to a conflict that you had with someone in

conflict that you had with someone in

conflict that you had with someone in the last month or week or day many of

the last month or week or day many of

the last month or week or day many of you told me just now that you’re

you told me just now that you’re

you told me just now that you’re extremely impactful

empathy becomes too hard and we abandon

empathy becomes too hard and we abandon it altogether right now

it altogether right now

it altogether right now politics is America’s empathic black

politics is America’s empathic black

politics is America’s empathic black hole we’ve retreated into ideological

hole we’ve retreated into ideological

hole we’ve retreated into ideological silos tuning out people who we disagree

silos tuning out people who we disagree

silos tuning out people who we disagree with or even worse savoring their pain

with or even worse savoring their pain

with or even worse savoring their pain this is a fractured time compassion

this is a fractured time compassion

this is a fractured time compassion feels endangered being a psychologist

feels endangered being a psychologist

feels endangered being a psychologist studying empathy today is a little bit

studying empathy today is a little bit

studying empathy today is a little bit like being a climatologist studying the

like being a climatologist studying the

like being a climatologist studying the polar icecaps we discover the value of

polar icecaps we discover the value of

polar icecaps we discover the value of something just as it disappears all

something just as it disappears all

something just as it disappears all around us does it have to be this way

around us does it have to be this way

around us does it have to be this way that depends on how you think empathy

that depends on how you think empathy

that depends on how you think empathy works for centuries philosophers and

works for centuries philosophers and

works for centuries philosophers and scientists have told us it’s a trait

scientists have told us it’s a trait

scientists have told us it’s a trait inherited through our genes hardwired

inherited through our genes hardwired

inherited through our genes hardwired into our brain saying that you either

into our brain saying that you either

into our brain saying that you either have or don’t have I call this the

have or don’t have I call this the

have or don’t have I call this the Roddenberry hypothesis because Gene

Roddenberry hypothesis because Gene

Roddenberry hypothesis because Gene Roddenberry enshrined it into the

Roddenberry enshrined it into the

Roddenberry enshrined it into the characters of the greatest television

characters of the greatest television

characters of the greatest television show of all time Star Trek The Next

show of all time Star Trek The Next

show of all time Star Trek The Next Generation no that is not up for debate

Generation no that is not up for debate

Generation no that is not up for debate thank you I’m glad to have so many

thank you I’m glad to have so many

thank you I’m glad to have so many fellow Trekkies here on one side we have

fellow Trekkies here on one side we have

fellow Trekkies here on one side we have the USS enterprises ships counselor

the USS enterprises ships counselor

the USS enterprises ships counselor Deanna Troi

Deanna Troi

Deanna Troi no one’s throughout the galaxy for her

no one’s throughout the galaxy for her

no one’s throughout the galaxy for her empathy she catches other people’s

empathy she catches other people’s

empathy she catches other people’s feelings and can read their mind on the

feelings and can read their mind on the

feelings and can read their mind on the other side we have the Android data who

other side we have the Android data who

other side we have the Android data who doesn’t feel emotions himself and can’t

doesn’t feel emotions himself and can’t

doesn’t feel emotions himself and can’t tell what other people are feeling

tell what other people are feeling

tell what other people are feeling either according to conventional wisdom

either according to conventional wisdom

either according to conventional wisdom each of us has a level of empathy

each of us has a level of empathy

each of us has a level of empathy somewhere between these two and like our

somewhere between these two and like our

somewhere between these two and like our adult height we’re stuck there for life

adult height we’re stuck there for life

adult height we’re stuck there for life so that means if empathy is too hard

so that means if empathy is too hard

so that means if empathy is too hard you there’s nothing you can do to

you there’s nothing you can do to

you there’s nothing you can do to overcome your limits and if our

overcome your limits and if our

overcome your limits and if our collective empathy is dwindling we can’t

collective empathy is dwindling we can’t

collective empathy is dwindling we can’t do anything about that either this is

do anything about that either this is

do anything about that either this is all pretty fatalistic thankfully it’s

all pretty fatalistic thankfully it’s

all pretty fatalistic thankfully it’s also wrong I want to tell you about a

also wrong I want to tell you about a

also wrong I want to tell you about a new view of empathy that for me is

new view of empathy that for me is

new view of empathy that for me is actually not new at all in fact it

actually not new at all in fact it

actually not new at all in fact it defined much of my childhood in 1972

defined much of my childhood in 1972

defined much of my childhood in 1972 Washington State University offered

Washington State University offered

Washington State University offered scholarships to students from the

scholarships to students from the

scholarships to students from the world’s poorest nations my mom got the

world’s poorest nations my mom got the

world’s poorest nations my mom got the one from Peru and my dad the one from

one from Peru and my dad the one from

one from Peru and my dad the one from Pakistan they traveled from Lima and

Pakistan they traveled from Lima and

Pakistan they traveled from Lima and Lahore each city bigger than New York to

Lahore each city bigger than New York to

Lahore each city bigger than New York to the sleepy town of Pullman where they

the sleepy town of Pullman where they

the sleepy town of Pullman where they fell in love

fell in love

fell in love looking very 70s in the process I might

looking very 70s in the process I might

looking very 70s in the process I might say for them though it was not meant to

say for them though it was not meant to

say for them though it was not meant to be the biggest thing that my parents had

be the biggest thing that my parents had

be the biggest thing that my parents had in common was their foreignness to the

in common was their foreignness to the

in common was their foreignness to the US and as they grew more comfortable in

US and as they grew more comfortable in

US and as they grew more comfortable in their new home they grew less

their new home they grew less

their new home they grew less comfortable with each other they

comfortable with each other they

comfortable with each other they realized that their personalities were

realized that their personalities were

realized that their personalities were as far apart of their hometowns

as far apart of their hometowns

as far apart of their hometowns they began divorcing when I was six but

they began divorcing when I was six but

they began divorcing when I was six but didn’t finish until I was ten for years

didn’t finish until I was ten for years

didn’t finish until I was ten for years I was shuttled back and forth between

I was shuttled back and forth between

I was shuttled back and forth between their houses but I might as well have

their houses but I might as well have

their houses but I might as well have been zipping between distant worlds my

been zipping between distant worlds my

been zipping between distant worlds my mom is quintessentially Peruvian full of

mom is quintessentially Peruvian full of

mom is quintessentially Peruvian full of warmth and nerves she values family

warmth and nerves she values family

warmth and nerves she values family above all else my dad prizes intellects

above all else my dad prizes intellects

above all else my dad prizes intellects and ambition where he came from the

and ambition where he came from the

and ambition where he came from the student who scored highest on an exam

student who scored highest on an exam

student who scored highest on an exam would end up in college and the students

would end up in college and the students

would end up in college and the students scored second-highest would end up on

scored second-highest would end up on

scored second-highest would end up on the streets I’m an only child and I was

the streets I’m an only child and I was

the streets I’m an only child and I was the only bridge between their worlds

the only bridge between their worlds

the only bridge between their worlds when I was with my mom I had to learn

when I was with my mom I had to learn

when I was with my mom I had to learn the rules that governed her heart and

the rules that governed her heart and

the rules that governed her heart and mind and make them true for myself but

mind and make them true for myself but

mind and make them true for myself but when I reached the my dad those rules

when I reached the my dad those rules

when I reached the my dad those rules didn’t apply anymore and I had to

didn’t apply anymore and I had to

didn’t apply anymore and I had to recalibrate he’s very different reality

recalibrate he’s very different reality

recalibrate he’s very different reality this was hard emotional labor for a

this was hard emotional labor for a

this was hard emotional labor for a six-year-old and sometimes it felt like

six-year-old and sometimes it felt like

six-year-old and sometimes it felt like I’d give up and I’d have to choose

I’d give up and I’d have to choose

I’d give up and I’d have to choose between my mom or my dad but I knew that

between my mom or my dad but I knew that

between my mom or my dad but I knew that for the sake of all of us I had to keep

for the sake of all of us I had to keep

for the sake of all of us I had to keep trying and eventually it got easier

trying and eventually it got easier

trying and eventually it got easier I learned to tune myself to their

I learned to tune myself to their

I learned to tune myself to their different emotional frequencies and that

different emotional frequencies and that

different emotional frequencies and that allowed me to maintain a strong bond

allowed me to maintain a strong bond

allowed me to maintain a strong bond with each of

with each of

with each of even if their connection to each other

even if their connection to each other

even if their connection to each other disintegrated empathy saved me but not

disintegrated empathy saved me but not

disintegrated empathy saved me but not because it came easily my parents

because it came easily my parents

because it came easily my parents divorce was like an empathy gym for me

divorce was like an empathy gym for me

divorce was like an empathy gym for me forcing me to work at care and

forcing me to work at care and

forcing me to work at care and understanding and that experience of

understanding and that experience of

understanding and that experience of stretching myself and the benefits that

stretching myself and the benefits that

stretching myself and the benefits that it caused is part of why I study what I

it caused is part of why I study what I

it caused is part of why I study what I do in the first place over the years I

do in the first place over the years I

do in the first place over the years I found lots of evidence that contradicts

found lots of evidence that contradicts

found lots of evidence that contradicts standard wisdom but jives with my own

standard wisdom but jives with my own

standard wisdom but jives with my own experience it turns out that empathy

experience it turns out that empathy

experience it turns out that empathy isn’t really that much of a trade at all

isn’t really that much of a trade at all

isn’t really that much of a trade at all it’s more like a skill we’re not stuck

it’s more like a skill we’re not stuck

it’s more like a skill we’re not stuck at one level of empathy throughout our

at one level of empathy throughout our

at one level of empathy throughout our lives certain experiences like a hateful

lives certain experiences like a hateful

lives certain experiences like a hateful political climate can atrophy it others

political climate can atrophy it others

political climate can atrophy it others like having to manage two very different

like having to manage two very different

like having to manage two very different parents can grow it and we can grow our

parents can grow it and we can grow our

parents can grow it and we can grow our empathy on purpose through practice you

empathy on purpose through practice you

empathy on purpose through practice you make choices about whether to practice

make choices about whether to practice

make choices about whether to practice empathy or not all the time will you

empathy or not all the time will you

empathy or not all the time will you cross the street to avoid a homeless

cross the street to avoid a homeless

cross the street to avoid a homeless person or pay attention to their pain

person or pay attention to their pain

person or pay attention to their pain will you dismiss someone who disagrees

will you dismiss someone who disagrees

will you dismiss someone who disagrees with you or try to figure out why they

with you or try to figure out why they

with you or try to figure out why they feel the way they do

feel the way they do

feel the way they do when we practice engaging over and over

when we practice engaging over and over

when we practice engaging over and over again we build an empathy that is deeper

again we build an empathy that is deeper

again we build an empathy that is deeper broader and more muscular there’s all

broader and more muscular there’s all

broader and more muscular there’s all sorts of examples of this but I’ll just

sorts of examples of this but I’ll just

sorts of examples of this but I’ll just give you two the first pertains to the

give you two the first pertains to the

give you two the first pertains to the question that I get asked most of all

question that I get asked most of all

question that I get asked most of all which is are women more empathic than

which is are women more empathic than

which is are women more empathic than men it certainly seems that way

men it certainly seems that way

men it certainly seems that way sometimes maybe we have stories and

sometimes maybe we have stories and

sometimes maybe we have stories and there are cases where women outperform

there are cases where women outperform

there are cases where women outperform men for instance in tests where they’re

men for instance in tests where they’re

men for instance in tests where they’re supposed to guess what other people feel

supposed to guess what other people feel

supposed to guess what other people feel if empathy is a trait then men just

if empathy is a trait then men just

if empathy is a trait then men just might be all thumbs when it comes to

might be all thumbs when it comes to

might be all thumbs when it comes to emotion we might be forever stuck in a

emotion we might be forever stuck in a

emotion we might be forever stuck in a Venus Mars problem but if empathy is a

Venus Mars problem but if empathy is a

Venus Mars problem but if empathy is a skill then maybe these differences are

skill then maybe these differences are

skill then maybe these differences are circumstantial to psychologists put this

circumstantial to psychologists put this

circumstantial to psychologists put this to the test in a classic study they

to the test in a classic study they

to the test in a classic study they first found as others had that women

first found as others had that women

first found as others had that women outperform men on an emotion

outperform men on an emotion

outperform men on an emotion understanding task but then they told

understanding task but then they told

understanding task but then they told both men and women guess what we’ll pay

both men and women guess what we’ll pay

both men and women guess what we’ll pay you for being accurate about what other

you for being accurate about what other

you for being accurate about what other people feel

people feel

people feel you might guess what’s coming next but

you might guess what’s coming next but

you might guess what’s coming next but this completely eliminated the gender

this completely eliminated the gender

this completely eliminated the gender gap in empathy so it turns out we’re not

gap in empathy so it turns out we’re not

gap in empathy so it turns out we’re not totally hopeless if we have reason to

totally hopeless if we have reason to

totally hopeless if we have reason to practice empathy we do and we get better

practice empathy we do and we get better

practice empathy we do and we get better in the process I think we can all

in the process I think we can all

in the process I think we can all practice empathy ironically though

practice empathy ironically though

practice empathy ironically though simply believing that it’s a trait can

simply believing that it’s a trait can

simply believing that it’s a trait can get in our way

get in our way

get in our way decades of evidence demonstrate that

decades of evidence demonstrate that

decades of evidence demonstrate that when people think they can’t change

when people think they can’t change

when people think they can’t change something about themselves

something about themselves

something about themselves like how smart or open-minded they are

like how smart or open-minded they are

like how smart or open-minded they are they shy away from challenges when they

they shy away from challenges when they

they shy away from challenges when they think they can grow they open up instead

think they can grow they open up instead

think they can grow they open up instead recently my colleagues and I tested

recently my colleagues and I tested

recently my colleagues and I tested whether this was true of empathy as well

whether this was true of empathy as well

whether this was true of empathy as well we had people read articles suggesting

we had people read articles suggesting

we had people read articles suggesting either that empathy was a trait which is

either that empathy was a trait which is

either that empathy was a trait which is pretty stable over time or that it was a

pretty stable over time or that it was a

pretty stable over time or that it was a skill which is changeable and can be

skill which is changeable and can be

skill which is changeable and can be developed

developed

developed then we ran them through an empathy

then we ran them through an empathy

then we ran them through an empathy obstacle course full of situations that

obstacle course full of situations that

obstacle course full of situations that make caring tough over and over we found

make caring tough over and over we found

make caring tough over and over we found that when people believed that empathy

that when people believed that empathy

that when people believed that empathy was a skill they worked harder at it

was a skill they worked harder at it

was a skill they worked harder at it they spent more time listening to the

they spent more time listening to the

they spent more time listening to the struggles of someone of a different race

struggles of someone of a different race

struggles of someone of a different race they spent more energy trying to

they spent more energy trying to

they spent more energy trying to understand the perspective of political

understand the perspective of political

understand the perspective of political outsiders when we empowered them they

outsiders when we empowered them they

outsiders when we empowered them they stretched their empathy past it’s

stretched their empathy past it’s

stretched their empathy past it’s typical boundaries as a kid I was lucky

typical boundaries as a kid I was lucky

typical boundaries as a kid I was lucky to have an empathy Jim now my lab

to have an empathy Jim now my lab

to have an empathy Jim now my lab provides that opportunity for other

provides that opportunity for other

provides that opportunity for other people we’ve worked with hundreds of

people we’ve worked with hundreds of

people we’ve worked with hundreds of college freshmen and thousands of middle

college freshmen and thousands of middle

college freshmen and thousands of middle schoolers throughout the Bay Area we

schoolers throughout the Bay Area we

schoolers throughout the Bay Area we instill in these students the idea that

instill in these students the idea that

instill in these students the idea that empathy is a skill and encourages them

empathy is a skill and encourages them

empathy is a skill and encourages them to practice it even when it feels hard

to practice it even when it feels hard

to practice it even when it feels hard because we believe that over time

because we believe that over time

because we believe that over time empathic practice turns into empathic

empathic practice turns into empathic

empathic practice turns into empathic habits and eventually empathic people

habits and eventually empathic people

habits and eventually empathic people we’re not the only ones in the empathy

we’re not the only ones in the empathy

we’re not the only ones in the empathy building business and I want to tell you

building business and I want to tell you

building business and I want to tell you about some people who inspire me sue

about some people who inspire me sue

about some people who inspire me sue Rahr heads police training for the state

Rahr heads police training for the state

Rahr heads police training for the state of Washington and she’s brought empathy

of Washington and she’s brought empathy

of Washington and she’s brought empathy front and center cadets in her program

front and center cadets in her program

front and center cadets in her program like this one go through mock crime

like this one go through mock crime

like this one go through mock crime scenes and practice defusing tense

scenes and practice defusing tense

scenes and practice defusing tense situations by slowing down asking

situations by slowing down asking

situations by slowing down asking questions and paying attention to what

questions and paying attention to what

questions and paying attention to what other people feel

other people feel

other people feel since Rory took over officers use of

since Rory took over officers use of

since Rory took over officers use of force has declined all over Washington

force has declined all over Washington

force has declined all over Washington especially towards people with mental

especially towards people with mental

especially towards people with mental illness in a dark moment for American

illness in a dark moment for American

illness in a dark moment for American policing she’s cast a light life after

policing she’s cast a light life after

policing she’s cast a light life after hate was founded by angela king tony

hate was founded by angela king tony

hate was founded by angela king tony McAleer and their colleagues all of whom

McAleer and their colleagues all of whom

McAleer and their colleagues all of whom were once white supremacists but now

were once white supremacists but now

were once white supremacists but now have reformed and worked to extract

have reformed and worked to extract

have reformed and worked to extract other people from the dark place they

other people from the dark place they

other people from the dark place they once inhabited hundreds of hate group

once inhabited hundreds of hate group

once inhabited hundreds of hate group members contact life after hate each

members contact life after hate each

members contact life after hate each year Tony Angela and their colleagues

year Tony Angela and their colleagues

year Tony Angela and their colleagues teach them that although hatred buries

teach them that although hatred buries

teach them that although hatred buries empathy it doesn’t kill it and that even

empathy it doesn’t kill it and that even

empathy it doesn’t kill it and that even people have lost their way can get it

people have lost their way can get it

people have lost their way can get it back Tony and Angela embodied this in

back Tony and Angela embodied this in

back Tony and Angela embodied this in their own stories

their own stories

their own stories they call themselves formers to

they call themselves formers to

they call themselves formers to acknowledge their past but also to

acknowledge their past but also to

acknowledge their past but also to acknowledge the idea that we’re all

acknowledge the idea that we’re all

acknowledge the idea that we’re all still forming able to choose new paths

still forming able to choose new paths

still forming able to choose new paths and forge new connections

Tonie Angela and Sue tackle some of the

Tonie Angela and Sue tackle some of the hardest issues of our time and they

hardest issues of our time and they

hardest issues of our time and they teach us that empathy can bloom even in

teach us that empathy can bloom even in

teach us that empathy can bloom even in barren soil we should all take a page

barren soil we should all take a page

barren soil we should all take a page from their book earlier I told you that

from their book earlier I told you that

from their book earlier I told you that when people no empathy is a skill they

when people no empathy is a skill they

when people no empathy is a skill they work harder at it hopefully by now you

work harder at it hopefully by now you

work harder at it hopefully by now you know empathy is under your control I

know empathy is under your control I

know empathy is under your control I challenge all of us to empathize with

challenge all of us to empathize with

challenge all of us to empathize with purpose especially when it’s hard let’s

purpose especially when it’s hard let’s

purpose especially when it’s hard let’s point our care at the voiceless the

point our care at the voiceless the

point our care at the voiceless the homeless individual or refugee who we

homeless individual or refugee who we

homeless individual or refugee who we might otherwise ignore let’s point our

might otherwise ignore let’s point our

might otherwise ignore let’s point our curiosity at people who anger us even

curiosity at people who anger us even

curiosity at people who anger us even when ignoring them feels easier if more

when ignoring them feels easier if more

when ignoring them feels easier if more of us can make choices like this we can

of us can make choices like this we can

of us can make choices like this we can begin to regrow our collective empathy

begin to regrow our collective empathy

begin to regrow our collective empathy and mend the tears in our social fabric

and mend the tears in our social fabric

and mend the tears in our social fabric and that’s the good news here empathy is

and that’s the good news here empathy is

and that’s the good news here empathy is not just a precious resource it’s also a

not just a precious resource it’s also a

not just a precious resource it’s also a renewable one thank you

renewable one thank you

renewable one thank you [Applause]

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