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Breaking Down Gender Roles in Swing Dance | Calvin Lu and Samantha Nguyen | TEDxGunnHighSchool


got to set my fingers got to rhythm in

got to set my fingers got to rhythm in my MA

my MA

my MA as the elephant’s say I’m living in a

as the elephant’s say I’m living in a

as the elephant’s say I’m living in a great way

great way

great way [Music]

[Music]

[Music] nothing but I watch it like a heart and

nothing but I watch it like a heart and

nothing but I watch it like a heart and I’m doing okay

I’m doing okay

I’m doing okay believe it in a great way something

believe it in a great way something

believe it in a great way something oh I’m the Sun in the sky

oh I’m the Sun in the sky

oh I’m the Sun in the sky [Music]

[Music]

[Music] a million dollars as long as I gots to

a million dollars as long as I gots to

a million dollars as long as I gots to set my finger got to rhythm in my bar

set my finger got to rhythm in my bar

set my finger got to rhythm in my bar the devil to pay in a great way well

the devil to pay in a great way well

the devil to pay in a great way well we’re a little out of breath but I’d

we’re a little out of breath but I’d

we’re a little out of breath but I’d like to introduce ourselves hi everyone

like to introduce ourselves hi everyone

like to introduce ourselves hi everyone I’m Sam and I’m Calvin

I’m Sam and I’m Calvin

I’m Sam and I’m Calvin we’re Lindy hoppers or swing dancers

we’re Lindy hoppers or swing dancers

we’re Lindy hoppers or swing dancers that means we do a dance called Lindy

that means we do a dance called Lindy

that means we do a dance called Lindy Hop Lindy Hop is a social dance they

Hop Lindy Hop is a social dance they

Hop Lindy Hop is a social dance they evolved in the 1920s and 30s alongside

evolved in the 1920s and 30s alongside

evolved in the 1920s and 30s alongside the evolution of jazz music and while

the evolution of jazz music and while

the evolution of jazz music and while this dance saw a major decline around

this dance saw a major decline around

this dance saw a major decline around World War two it was brought back around

World War two it was brought back around

World War two it was brought back around the 1980s with a huge swing dancing

the 1980s with a huge swing dancing

the 1980s with a huge swing dancing revival and thinks important figures

revival and thinks important figures

revival and thinks important figures like Frankie Manning here we are today

like Frankie Manning here we are today

like Frankie Manning here we are today with the dance very much alive in fact

with the dance very much alive in fact

with the dance very much alive in fact here in the Bay Area

here in the Bay Area

here in the Bay Area you can go dancing almost any night of

you can go dancing almost any night of

you can go dancing almost any night of the week and walk into a room full of

the week and walk into a room full of

the week and walk into a room full of people all you know may be close friends

people all you know may be close friends

people all you know may be close friends with each other

with each other

with each other maybe strangers and they’re all dancing

maybe strangers and they’re all dancing

maybe strangers and they’re all dancing together and eager to dance with you

together and eager to dance with you

together and eager to dance with you we’re not experts at the dance

we’re not experts at the dance

we’re not experts at the dance we’ve both been dancing for about four

we’ve both been dancing for about four

we’ve both been dancing for about four years now but there’s one thing that’s

years now but there’s one thing that’s

years now but there’s one thing that’s for sure and that’s we love this dance

for sure and that’s we love this dance

for sure and that’s we love this dance we love the joy and exuberance that you

we love the joy and exuberance that you

we love the joy and exuberance that you can feel dancing with someone totally in

can feel dancing with someone totally in

can feel dancing with someone totally in Prague but feeling really inspired by

Prague but feeling really inspired by

Prague but feeling really inspired by your partner and the best part is that

your partner and the best part is that

your partner and the best part is that you get to share the same feeling and

you get to share the same feeling and

you get to share the same feeling and sentiment over and over and over again

sentiment over and over and over again

sentiment over and over and over again the entire night with a new partner and

the entire night with a new partner and

the entire night with a new partner and a new dance and for this reason we love

a new dance and for this reason we love

a new dance and for this reason we love the swing dancing community but with all

the swing dancing community but with all

the swing dancing community but with all great communities there’s always room

great communities there’s always room

great communities there’s always room for improvement

for improvement

for improvement so today

so today

so today Calvin and I want to share with you our

Calvin and I want to share with you our

Calvin and I want to share with you our experience in trying to improve our

experience in trying to improve our

experience in trying to improve our already great swing dancing community or

already great swing dancing community or

already great swing dancing community or at least our little corner of it we want

at least our little corner of it we want

at least our little corner of it we want to share with you our process for taking

to share with you our process for taking

to share with you our process for taking and looking at our community asking

and looking at our community asking

and looking at our community asking ourselves is this the ideal state that

ourselves is this the ideal state that

ourselves is this the ideal state that we want it to be in and if not figuring

we want it to be in and if not figuring

we want it to be in and if not figuring out ways in which we can improve on them

out ways in which we can improve on them

out ways in which we can improve on them so Lindy Hop like most social dances has

so Lindy Hop like most social dances has

so Lindy Hop like most social dances has a leader and a follower someone who

a leader and a follower someone who

a leader and a follower someone who initiates movement and someone who

initiates movement and someone who

initiates movement and someone who responds to those movements in that

responds to those movements in that

responds to those movements in that dance that we just had I started as the

dance that we just had I started as the

dance that we just had I started as the leader but halfway through we actually

leader but halfway through we actually

leader but halfway through we actually switched so that I was following and Sam

switched so that I was following and Sam

switched so that I was following and Sam was leading now that’s probably not

was leading now that’s probably not

was leading now that’s probably not something that you see very often in

something that you see very often in

something that you see very often in movies or in TV shows like Dancing with

movies or in TV shows like Dancing with

movies or in TV shows like Dancing with the Stars it’s almost always a man

the Stars it’s almost always a man

the Stars it’s almost always a man leading and a woman following but we

leading and a woman following but we

leading and a woman following but we think that this seems to perpetuate a

think that this seems to perpetuate a

think that this seems to perpetuate a very negative power dynamic one where

very negative power dynamic one where

very negative power dynamic one where the man pulls and the woman Falls one

the man pulls and the woman Falls one

the man pulls and the woman Falls one where the man asserts and the woman

where the man asserts and the woman

where the man asserts and the woman reacts or one where the man makes the

reacts or one where the man makes the

reacts or one where the man makes the decisions and the woman allows them to

decisions and the woman allows them to

decisions and the woman allows them to happen to her what he says goes now

happen to her what he says goes now

happen to her what he says goes now obviously Sam and I would love to see

obviously Sam and I would love to see

obviously Sam and I would love to see you know more diversity in pop culture

you know more diversity in pop culture

you know more diversity in pop culture media but let’s look at something a

media but let’s look at something a

media but let’s look at something a little smaller in scale let’s look at

little smaller in scale let’s look at

little smaller in scale let’s look at our swing dancing community so

our swing dancing community so

our swing dancing community so historically when men left to fight in

historically when men left to fight in

historically when men left to fight in World War two the women back home had to

World War two the women back home had to

World War two the women back home had to learn to dance with other woman and and

learn to dance with other woman and and

learn to dance with other woman and and the men learned to dance with other men

sorry our pictures not showing oh here

sorry our pictures not showing oh here it is and the men learned to dance with

it is and the men learned to dance with

it is and the men learned to dance with other men and so woman leading and men

other men and so woman leading and men

other men and so woman leading and men following wasn’t super

following wasn’t super

following wasn’t super coming nowadays though at least from our

coming nowadays though at least from our

coming nowadays though at least from our experiences we don’t see that many men

experiences we don’t see that many men

experiences we don’t see that many men lead it dancing with other men or women

lead it dancing with other men or women

lead it dancing with other men or women dancing with other women and we don’t

dancing with other women and we don’t

dancing with other women and we don’t especially don’t see women leading men

especially don’t see women leading men

especially don’t see women leading men we almost never see a reversal of the

we almost never see a reversal of the

we almost never see a reversal of the power dynamic it still seems to be the

power dynamic it still seems to be the

power dynamic it still seems to be the case that when one man and one woman

case that when one man and one woman

case that when one man and one woman dance together it’s somehow more ideal

dance together it’s somehow more ideal

dance together it’s somehow more ideal if the man is leading and the woman is

if the man is leading and the woman is

if the man is leading and the woman is following and if you look off the social

following and if you look off the social

following and if you look off the social dance floor and you look at competitions

dance floor and you look at competitions

dance floor and you look at competitions and performances and choreographies you

and performances and choreographies you

and performances and choreographies you know the videos that would probably end

know the videos that would probably end

know the videos that would probably end up on YouTube that you all could watch

up on YouTube that you all could watch

up on YouTube that you all could watch they seem to all be saying the same

they seem to all be saying the same

they seem to all be saying the same exact thing and that’s swing dancing is

exact thing and that’s swing dancing is

exact thing and that’s swing dancing is a man and a woman and the man leads and

a man and a woman and the man leads and

a man and a woman and the man leads and the woman follows always but don’t get

the woman follows always but don’t get

the woman follows always but don’t get us wrong let’s take a step back don’t

us wrong let’s take a step back don’t

us wrong let’s take a step back don’t get us wrong we’re not trying to say

get us wrong we’re not trying to say

get us wrong we’re not trying to say that we think that all men have to lead

that we think that all men have to lead

that we think that all men have to lead and all women have to follow not at all

and all women have to follow not at all

and all women have to follow not at all but we want to get to the real issue the

but we want to get to the real issue the

but we want to get to the real issue the deeply rooted and in fact dangerous

deeply rooted and in fact dangerous

deeply rooted and in fact dangerous issue the assumption that men must lead

issue the assumption that men must lead

issue the assumption that men must lead and that women must follow and like with

and that women must follow and like with

and that women must follow and like with all assumptions and values that you have

all assumptions and values that you have

all assumptions and values that you have with you in a hobby such as swing

with you in a hobby such as swing

with you in a hobby such as swing dancing they apply to the outside world

dancing they apply to the outside world

dancing they apply to the outside world the your outside life as well so if we

the your outside life as well so if we

the your outside life as well so if we don’t believe that men and women should

don’t believe that men and women should

don’t believe that men and women should interact in this way in the rest of our

interact in this way in the rest of our

interact in this way in the rest of our lives

lives

lives then why is it that we’re cultivating

then why is it that we’re cultivating

then why is it that we’re cultivating this idea in

this idea in

this idea in side of our swing dancing community okay

side of our swing dancing community okay

side of our swing dancing community okay so now we’ve kind of looked at our

so now we’ve kind of looked at our

so now we’ve kind of looked at our community and we’ve seen that yes there

community and we’ve seen that yes there

community and we’ve seen that yes there are things we can improve in it so now

are things we can improve in it so now

are things we can improve in it so now one thing we can ask ourselves is kind

one thing we can ask ourselves is kind

one thing we can ask ourselves is kind of how does this happen

of how does this happen

of how does this happen kind of what forces are at work that

kind of what forces are at work that

kind of what forces are at work that cause essentially all men to be leaders

cause essentially all men to be leaders

cause essentially all men to be leaders and all women to be followers well let’s

and all women to be followers well let’s

and all women to be followers well let’s start at the beginning

start at the beginning

start at the beginning yeah so imagine that you’re learning to

yeah so imagine that you’re learning to

yeah so imagine that you’re learning to swing dance by the way we hope this is

swing dance by the way we hope this is

swing dance by the way we hope this is true after this talk that you do decide

true after this talk that you do decide

true after this talk that you do decide to learn to sing dance but anyways

to learn to sing dance but anyways

to learn to sing dance but anyways you’re learning to swing dance and you

you’re learning to swing dance and you

you’re learning to swing dance and you go take your first class now in most

go take your first class now in most

go take your first class now in most maybe not all but most Lindy Hop classes

maybe not all but most Lindy Hop classes

maybe not all but most Lindy Hop classes you’ll only get to learn one roll so you

you’ll only get to learn one roll so you

you’ll only get to learn one roll so you have to choose Sam and I have found that

have to choose Sam and I have found that

have to choose Sam and I have found that in a lot of swing dancing classes there

in a lot of swing dancing classes there

in a lot of swing dancing classes there are elements that kind of perpetuate a

are elements that kind of perpetuate a

are elements that kind of perpetuate a gendered status quo you walk into the

gendered status quo you walk into the

gendered status quo you walk into the class and all the teachers are always a

class and all the teachers are always a

class and all the teachers are always a man leading and a woman following maybe

man leading and a woman following maybe

man leading and a woman following maybe the teachers start off the class by

the teachers start off the class by

the teachers start off the class by saying let’s have everyone get into

saying let’s have everyone get into

saying let’s have everyone get into pairs and then everyone kind of

pairs and then everyone kind of

pairs and then everyone kind of automatically pairs up one man one woman

automatically pairs up one man one woman

automatically pairs up one man one woman maybe the teachers use gendered pronouns

maybe the teachers use gendered pronouns

maybe the teachers use gendered pronouns like she and him when they refer to

like she and him when they refer to

like she and him when they refer to followers and leaders even something as

followers and leaders even something as

followers and leaders even something as simple as splitting the class

simple as splitting the class

simple as splitting the class geographically maybe the teachers say

geographically maybe the teachers say

geographically maybe the teachers say something like let’s have all the

something like let’s have all the

something like let’s have all the leaders stand behind me on this side of

leaders stand behind me on this side of

leaders stand behind me on this side of the room and watch my footwork and let’s

the room and watch my footwork and let’s

the room and watch my footwork and let’s have all the followers stay on that side

have all the followers stay on that side

have all the followers stay on that side of the room behind sam and watch her

of the room behind sam and watch her

of the room behind sam and watch her footwork well that can be a little bit

footwork well that can be a little bit

footwork well that can be a little bit of a tough situation if you don’t want

of a tough situation if you don’t want

of a tough situation if you don’t want to be say the one guy standing on that

to be say the one guy standing on that

to be say the one guy standing on that side of the room surrounded by was

side of the room surrounded by was

side of the room surrounded by was otherwise all woman because maybe you

otherwise all woman because maybe you

otherwise all woman because maybe you feel like that makes you stand out a

feel like that makes you stand out a

feel like that makes you stand out a little too much or maybe because you’ll

little too much or maybe because you’ll

little too much or maybe because you’ll feel awkward when someone you know and

feel awkward when someone you know and

feel awkward when someone you know and the really helpful manner kind of taps

the really helpful manner kind of taps

the really helpful manner kind of taps you on the shoulder and it’s like hey

you on the shoulder and it’s like hey

you on the shoulder and it’s like hey buddy I think you’re on the wrong side

buddy I think you’re on the wrong side

buddy I think you’re on the wrong side guys are on that side right it can be a

guys are on that side right it can be a

guys are on that side right it can be a little scary already we know to learn to

little scary already we know to learn to

little scary already we know to learn to dance going out there and learning to

dance going out there and learning to

dance going out there and learning to dance that can be a little scary

dance that can be a little scary

dance that can be a little scary and you know it’s scary enough without

and you know it’s scary enough without

and you know it’s scary enough without having to challenge gender norms at the

having to challenge gender norms at the

having to challenge gender norms at the same time and when you’re finished with

same time and when you’re finished with

same time and when you’re finished with your classes it’s off to the social

your classes it’s off to the social

your classes it’s off to the social dance floor but the social dance floor

dance floor but the social dance floor

dance floor but the social dance floor and swing dancing is totally different

and swing dancing is totally different

and swing dancing is totally different than say maybe homecoming or prom right

than say maybe homecoming or prom right

than say maybe homecoming or prom right you don’t ask someone to be your date

you don’t ask someone to be your date

you don’t ask someone to be your date for the entire night and you only dance

for the entire night and you only dance

for the entire night and you only dance with that one person in swing dancing

with that one person in swing dancing

with that one person in swing dancing social dancing means that you go to a

social dancing means that you go to a

social dancing means that you go to a venue by yourself and then you get to

venue by yourself and then you get to

venue by yourself and then you get to dance with lots of different people they

dance with lots of different people they

dance with lots of different people they may be friends they may be acquaintances

may be friends they may be acquaintances

may be friends they may be acquaintances but they could also be strangers so with

but they could also be strangers so with

but they could also be strangers so with that in mind let’s get back to Calvin’s

that in mind let’s get back to Calvin’s

that in mind let’s get back to Calvin’s scenario you’ve just finished your

scenario you’ve just finished your

scenario you’ve just finished your classes and you’re super excited to get

classes and you’re super excited to get

classes and you’re super excited to get to social dancing maybe a little nervous

to social dancing maybe a little nervous

to social dancing maybe a little nervous you stand at the edge of the dance floor

you stand at the edge of the dance floor

you stand at the edge of the dance floor waiting watching the other dancers and

waiting watching the other dancers and

waiting watching the other dancers and hoping that someone will ask you to

hoping that someone will ask you to

hoping that someone will ask you to dance and sure enough someone will

dance and sure enough someone will

dance and sure enough someone will probably ask you to dance but it won’t

probably ask you to dance but it won’t

probably ask you to dance but it won’t just be anyone if you’re a man women

just be anyone if you’re a man women

just be anyone if you’re a man women will ask you to dance and furthermore

will ask you to dance and furthermore

will ask you to dance and furthermore it’ll also assume that well you’re a man

it’ll also assume that well you’re a man

it’ll also assume that well you’re a man so you must know how to lead right

so you must know how to lead right

so you must know how to lead right and vice-versa if you’re a woman men

and vice-versa if you’re a woman men

and vice-versa if you’re a woman men will ask you to dance and they’ll also

will ask you to dance and they’ll also

will ask you to dance and they’ll also assume well you’re a woman you must know

assume well you’re a woman you must know

assume well you’re a woman you must know how to follow and so

how to follow and so

how to follow and so with that idea we’ve also applied that

with that idea we’ve also applied that

with that idea we’ve also applied that to our experiences as well in our

to our experiences as well in our

to our experiences as well in our experiences we found that people who

experiences we found that people who

experiences we found that people who learn the role that quote unquote

learn the role that quote unquote

learn the role that quote unquote doesn’t match their gender for example

doesn’t match their gender for example

doesn’t match their gender for example if you’re a woman who learns how to lead

if you’re a woman who learns how to lead

if you’re a woman who learns how to lead first you have a much harder time on the

first you have a much harder time on the

first you have a much harder time on the social dance floor after all if you’re a

social dance floor after all if you’re a

social dance floor after all if you’re a woman who only knows how to lead and men

woman who only knows how to lead and men

woman who only knows how to lead and men keep coming up and asking you to dance

keep coming up and asking you to dance

keep coming up and asking you to dance expecting you to follow well either you

expecting you to follow well either you

expecting you to follow well either you get really lucky that that man also

get really lucky that that man also

get really lucky that that man also knows how to follow or more likely and

knows how to follow or more likely and

knows how to follow or more likely and more commonly you just you can’t dance

more commonly you just you can’t dance

more commonly you just you can’t dance and so now we kind of have a coherent

and so now we kind of have a coherent

and so now we kind of have a coherent explanation maybe for why when you watch

explanation maybe for why when you watch

explanation maybe for why when you watch media of swing dancing you know

media of swing dancing you know

media of swing dancing you know competitions and videos performances all

competitions and videos performances all

competitions and videos performances all the men are leading and all the women

the men are leading and all the women

the men are leading and all the women are following if you’re going to dance

are following if you’re going to dance

are following if you’re going to dance in front of a crowd you know maybe in

in front of a crowd you know maybe in

in front of a crowd you know maybe in front of a few cameras you probably want

front of a few cameras you probably want

front of a few cameras you probably want to look good or you know maybe at least

to look good or you know maybe at least

to look good or you know maybe at least look your best so you’re probably going

look your best so you’re probably going

look your best so you’re probably going to dance in the role that you spend most

to dance in the role that you spend most

to dance in the role that you spend most of your time in classes and in social

of your time in classes and in social

of your time in classes and in social dancing doing right and well there you

dancing doing right and well there you

dancing doing right and well there you have it from the classes to social

have it from the classes to social

have it from the classes to social dancing – now performances and videos on

dancing – now performances and videos on

dancing – now performances and videos on YouTube

YouTube

YouTube we’ve analyzed and explained why dance

we’ve analyzed and explained why dance

we’ve analyzed and explained why dance roles are so ingrained in gender so now

roles are so ingrained in gender so now

roles are so ingrained in gender so now what well luckily we’re not the only

what well luckily we’re not the only

what well luckily we’re not the only ones talking about this vlog city stomp

ones talking about this vlog city stomp

ones talking about this vlog city stomp is a local event in San Francisco that

is a local event in San Francisco that

is a local event in San Francisco that really makes it a point to be

really makes it a point to be

really makes it a point to be progressive in what they do

progressive in what they do

progressive in what they do for example they hire women in

for example they hire women in

for example they hire women in underrepresented roles such as MCS and

underrepresented roles such as MCS and

underrepresented roles such as MCS and DJs and musicians and they also enforce

DJs and musicians and they also enforce

DJs and musicians and they also enforce that teachers don’t use gendered

that teachers don’t use gendered

that teachers don’t use gendered pronouns when they’re teaching

pronouns when they’re teaching

pronouns when they’re teaching they also help to promote a safe dance

they also help to promote a safe dance

they also help to promote a safe dance space by having a very clear code of

space by having a very clear code of

space by having a very clear code of conduct and even right here in Palo Alto

conduct and even right here in Palo Alto

conduct and even right here in Palo Alto there’s a weekly swing dancing venue

there’s a weekly swing dancing venue

there’s a weekly swing dancing venue called Wednesday night hop and it’s a

called Wednesday night hop and it’s a

called Wednesday night hop and it’s a weekly venue that has classes and social

weekly venue that has classes and social

weekly venue that has classes and social dancing every Wednesday night and

dancing every Wednesday night and

dancing every Wednesday night and they’re also a force in which they’re

they’re also a force in which they’re

they’re also a force in which they’re creating a progressive environment for

creating a progressive environment for

creating a progressive environment for dancers here in the South Bay and what

dancers here in the South Bay and what

dancers here in the South Bay and what about us well we are on the organizing

about us well we are on the organizing

about us well we are on the organizing team of a new event called the switch

team of a new event called the switch

team of a new event called the switch it’s a weekend long workshop being held

it’s a weekend long workshop being held

it’s a weekend long workshop being held in San Francisco that’s focused on

in San Francisco that’s focused on

in San Francisco that’s focused on breaking down gender norms we think that

breaking down gender norms we think that

breaking down gender norms we think that this is an opportunity for us to kind of

this is an opportunity for us to kind of

this is an opportunity for us to kind of address a lot of the you know coercive

address a lot of the you know coercive

address a lot of the you know coercive forces and issues that we just described

forces and issues that we just described

forces and issues that we just described for example we want to have classes in

for example we want to have classes in

for example we want to have classes in which the teachers show that women can

which the teachers show that women can

which the teachers show that women can be leaders and men can be followers in a

be leaders and men can be followers in a

be leaders and men can be followers in a serious manner and we also want to offer

serious manner and we also want to offer

serious manner and we also want to offer classes where people can learn both the

classes where people can learn both the

classes where people can learn both the roles instead just one but we also want

roles instead just one but we also want

roles instead just one but we also want to offer classes where people can choose

to offer classes where people can choose

to offer classes where people can choose to learn one role but not have to worry

to learn one role but not have to worry

to learn one role but not have to worry about feeling awkward about the world

about feeling awkward about the world

about feeling awkward about the world that they chose chose and we also want

that they chose chose and we also want

that they chose chose and we also want to have role markers these buttons that

to have role markers these buttons that

to have role markers these buttons that say I know how to lead or I know how to

say I know how to lead or I know how to

say I know how to lead or I know how to follow and you could even wear both at

follow and you could even wear both at

follow and you could even wear both at the same time if you wanted to just so

the same time if you wanted to just so

the same time if you wanted to just so gender isn’t the primary thing that we

gender isn’t the primary thing that we

gender isn’t the primary thing that we use when we are trying to find someone

use when we are trying to find someone

use when we are trying to find someone to dance with and we want to push the

to dance with and we want to push the

to dance with and we want to push the word Amba dance trous kind of like

word Amba dance trous kind of like

word Amba dance trous kind of like ambidextrous as a term that people who

ambidextrous as a term that people who

ambidextrous as a term that people who dance both roles can identify with even

dance both roles can identify with even

dance both roles can identify with even if they do one role better than the

if they do one role better than the

if they do one role better than the other after all if a man takes one class

other after all if a man takes one class

other after all if a man takes one class as a leader and you know everyone calls

as a leader and you know everyone calls

as a leader and you know everyone calls him a leader then a woman who dances is

him a leader then a woman who dances is

him a leader then a woman who dances is a follower for five years and then takes

a follower for five years and then takes

a follower for five years and then takes one class as a leader it’s going to be

one class as a leader it’s going to be

one class as a leader it’s going to be just as good a leader if not probably a

just as good a leader if not probably a

just as good a leader if not probably a lot better and so we hope that this kind

lot better and so we hope that this kind

lot better and so we hope that this kind of

of

of helps to you know change our language

helps to you know change our language

helps to you know change our language and separate and kind of decouple the

and separate and kind of decouple the

and separate and kind of decouple the words leader from man and follower from

words leader from man and follower from

words leader from man and follower from woman and for the switch what are we

woman and for the switch what are we

woman and for the switch what are we really hoping for we’re hoping to create

really hoping for we’re hoping to create

really hoping for we’re hoping to create a safe dance environment a safe dance

a safe dance environment a safe dance

a safe dance environment a safe dance space and we want to promote these

space and we want to promote these

space and we want to promote these thoughtful interactions between leaders

thoughtful interactions between leaders

thoughtful interactions between leaders and followers and men and women but also

and followers and men and women but also

and followers and men and women but also new dancers and experienced dancers and

new dancers and experienced dancers and

new dancers and experienced dancers and these thoughtful interactions really are

these thoughtful interactions really are

these thoughtful interactions really are not just about this small swing dancing

not just about this small swing dancing

not just about this small swing dancing community that we have this really niche

community that we have this really niche

community that we have this really niche thing that we do it’s about an attitude

thing that we do it’s about an attitude

thing that we do it’s about an attitude that we can bring to the rest of our

that we can bring to the rest of our

that we can bring to the rest of our lives because with the rest of our lives

lives because with the rest of our lives

lives because with the rest of our lives it’s about all the things that we talked

it’s about all the things that we talked

it’s about all the things that we talked about it’s about gender equality and

about it’s about gender equality and

about it’s about gender equality and it’s about empowering both women and men

it’s about empowering both women and men

it’s about empowering both women and men and it’s about shifting power dynamics

and it’s about shifting power dynamics

and it’s about shifting power dynamics so that attitude that we can bring to

so that attitude that we can bring to

so that attitude that we can bring to the rest of our lives is really what

the rest of our lives is really what

the rest of our lives is really what we’re hoping for just in the same way

we’re hoping for just in the same way

we’re hoping for just in the same way that we fight for gender equality in TV

that we fight for gender equality in TV

that we fight for gender equality in TV and in film and in literature and many

and in film and in literature and many

and in film and in literature and many other things we also fight for those

other things we also fight for those

other things we also fight for those things and dance and we think it makes

things and dance and we think it makes

things and dance and we think it makes the community stronger for it so

the community stronger for it so

the community stronger for it so whatever community you’re part of

whatever community you’re part of

whatever community you’re part of whether it’s a school club a workplace

whether it’s a school club a workplace

whether it’s a school club a workplace maybe a group of friends we encourage

maybe a group of friends we encourage

maybe a group of friends we encourage you to explore this process of

you to explore this process of

you to explore this process of evaluating your community of kind of

evaluating your community of kind of

evaluating your community of kind of looking at its flaws and understanding

looking at its flaws and understanding

looking at its flaws and understanding why they’re there that way you can make

why they’re there that way you can make

why they’re there that way you can make your little corner of the world a better

your little corner of the world a better

your little corner of the world a better place we hope to see you on the social

place we hope to see you on the social

place we hope to see you on the social dance floor sometime thank you

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