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Bigger Than the People Who Made It | Chris Wedge | TEDxOrientHarbor


I’ve given presentations in the past

I’ve given presentations in the past where I’ve celebrated our

where I’ve celebrated our

where I’ve celebrated our accomplishments of blue sky or talked

accomplishments of blue sky or talked

accomplishments of blue sky or talked about the process beats behind some of

about the process beats behind some of

about the process beats behind some of the movies we make or some technical

the movies we make or some technical

the movies we make or some technical aspect of the work but one of the

aspect of the work but one of the

aspect of the work but one of the suggestions I had for today was just to

suggestions I had for today was just to

suggestions I had for today was just to talk about building the company what I

talk about building the company what I

talk about building the company what I have is a is a story from my own

have is a is a story from my own

have is a is a story from my own perspective chapter that well I think I

perspective chapter that well I think I

perspective chapter that well I think I learned a lot about collaboration but

learned a lot about collaboration but

learned a lot about collaboration but also some of the difficult the ways that

also some of the difficult the ways that

also some of the difficult the ways that we finding creative clarity in an

we finding creative clarity in an

we finding creative clarity in an environment when where there’s just a

environment when where there’s just a

environment when where there’s just a lot of input in the fall of 2001 blue

lot of input in the fall of 2001 blue

lot of input in the fall of 2001 blue sky was about 15 years old and we were

sky was about 15 years old and we were

sky was about 15 years old and we were months away from accomplishing something

months away from accomplishing something

months away from accomplishing something that was just our grandest goal and that

that was just our grandest goal and that

that was just our grandest goal and that was to deliver an animated feature film

was to deliver an animated feature film

was to deliver an animated feature film the name of that movie was ice age and I

the name of that movie was ice age and I

the name of that movie was ice age and I was directing it and like most efforts

was directing it and like most efforts

was directing it and like most efforts on this scale it had been a tremendous

on this scale it had been a tremendous

on this scale it had been a tremendous collaboration and one that I had felt

collaboration and one that I had felt

collaboration and one that I had felt completely prepared for I’d been making

completely prepared for I’d been making

completely prepared for I’d been making little animated movies from the time I

little animated movies from the time I

little animated movies from the time I was 12 or 13 years old I’d gone to film

was 12 or 13 years old I’d gone to film

was 12 or 13 years old I’d gone to film school I’d won little prizes for my

school I’d won little prizes for my

school I’d won little prizes for my short films I I’d landed one of the

short films I I’d landed one of the

short films I I’d landed one of the first jobs that ever existed in making

first jobs that ever existed in making

first jobs that ever existed in making animation with computers I had a company

animation with computers I had a company

animation with computers I had a company called Magi we did a lot of the

called Magi we did a lot of the

called Magi we did a lot of the animation for the Disney movie Tron were

animation for the Disney movie Tron were

animation for the Disney movie Tron were the first movies to make extensive use

the first movies to make extensive use

the first movies to make extensive use of this and even after working on like

of this and even after working on like

of this and even after working on like what was it then the bleeding edge of

what was it then the bleeding edge of

what was it then the bleeding edge of this above this technology I went back

this above this technology I went back

this above this technology I went back to school to learn more about it I just

to school to learn more about it I just

to school to learn more about it I just want to know more about the technique in

want to know more about the technique in

want to know more about the technique in the in the

the in the

the in the technology then in 1987 a group of

technology then in 1987 a group of

technology then in 1987 a group of former colleagues and friends and I

former colleagues and friends and I

former colleagues and friends and I started our decided to start our own

started our decided to start our own

started our decided to start our own company we had some very specific ideas

company we had some very specific ideas

company we had some very specific ideas about how to do it right so we pulled

about how to do it right so we pulled

about how to do it right so we pulled our life savings and we bought some of

our life savings and we bought some of

our life savings and we bought some of the first workstation computers and and

the first workstation computers and and

the first workstation computers and and some cheap office furniture and we had

some cheap office furniture and we had

some cheap office furniture and we had at it that was the beginning of blue sky

at it that was the beginning of blue sky

at it that was the beginning of blue sky now this was an era when if you’re gonna

now this was an era when if you’re gonna

now this was an era when if you’re gonna make animation with computers you had to

make animation with computers you had to

make animation with computers you had to develop the technology to do it so it

develop the technology to do it so it

develop the technology to do it so it was a couple of years before we even had

was a couple of years before we even had

was a couple of years before we even had enough imagery to go out and peddle our

enough imagery to go out and peddle our

enough imagery to go out and peddle our wares and then time after that before

wares and then time after that before

wares and then time after that before we were getting little bits and pieces

we were getting little bits and pieces

we were getting little bits and pieces of commercial work and then you know a

of commercial work and then you know a

of commercial work and then you know a little bit more time went by and we

little bit more time went by and we

little bit more time went by and we finally had more work than we could

finally had more work than we could

finally had more work than we could handle

handle

handle yeah which was great but we had you know

yeah which was great but we had you know

yeah which was great but we had you know with that and expenses and and and we

with that and expenses and and and we

with that and expenses and and and we had underbid all the work and the first

had underbid all the work and the first

had underbid all the work and the first place thing to get it I remember driving

place thing to get it I remember driving

place thing to get it I remember driving back to the studio one night after

back to the studio one night after

back to the studio one night after having had a quick dinner with my family

having had a quick dinner with my family

having had a quick dinner with my family feeling sorry for myself thinking about

feeling sorry for myself thinking about

feeling sorry for myself thinking about all the mountains of nonsense I had to

all the mountains of nonsense I had to

all the mountains of nonsense I had to get through before I was slept again and

get through before I was slept again and

get through before I was slept again and and pulling into the into the parking

and pulling into the into the parking

and pulling into the into the parking lot I saw there was a light on and I

lot I saw there was a light on and I

lot I saw there was a light on and I remembered we’d hired a freelancer and

remembered we’d hired a freelancer and

remembered we’d hired a freelancer and we weren’t paying ourselves yet but we

we weren’t paying ourselves yet but we

we weren’t paying ourselves yet but we were paying them and they’d been there

were paying them and they’d been there

were paying them and they’d been there while I was gone for dinner and they

while I was gone for dinner and they

while I was gone for dinner and they were gonna stay with me through the

were gonna stay with me through the

were gonna stay with me through the night until work was done and from that

night until work was done and from that

night until work was done and from that moment I and my colleagues dedicated

moment I and my colleagues dedicated

moment I and my colleagues dedicated ourselves to developing and nurturing a

ourselves to developing and nurturing a

ourselves to developing and nurturing a crew you know we started depending on

crew you know we started depending on

crew you know we started depending on other people to help us and and and and

other people to help us and and and and

other people to help us and and and and people joined us that shared the vision

people joined us that shared the vision

people joined us that shared the vision understood the vision and this the crew

understood the vision and this the crew

understood the vision and this the crew grew and the company grew ultimately

grew and the company grew ultimately

grew and the company grew ultimately that vision was bigger than the one we

that vision was bigger than the one we

that vision was bigger than the one we had started with which was great there

had started with which was great there

had started with which was great there were enough people doing the work so

were enough people doing the work so

were enough people doing the work so that I for one was left to do the things

that I for one was left to do the things

that I for one was left to do the things that interested me the most I’ve been

that interested me the most I’ve been

that interested me the most I’ve been working on a short film from the day we

working on a short film from the day we

working on a short film from the day we started the company and in 1998 would

started the company and in 1998 would

started the company and in 1998 would help a lot of blue sky people we

help a lot of blue sky people we

help a lot of blue sky people we finished it

finished it

finished it and bunny went on to win awards around

and bunny went on to win awards around

and bunny went on to win awards around the world including an Oscar for best

the world including an Oscar for best

the world including an Oscar for best animated short film that year so with so

animated short film that year so with so

animated short film that year so with so with the success of bunny and the

with the success of bunny and the

with the success of bunny and the maturity of our our technology and our

maturity of our our technology and our

maturity of our our technology and our crew we were given the opportunity to

crew we were given the opportunity to

crew we were given the opportunity to make a feature film so ice age is the

make a feature film so ice age is the

make a feature film so ice age is the story of three completely different

story of three completely different

story of three completely different characters through completely different

characters through completely different

characters through completely different animals that bond over what to do with a

animals that bond over what to do with a

animals that bond over what to do with a human baby once a knuckleheaded sloth

human baby once a knuckleheaded sloth

human baby once a knuckleheaded sloth one is a kind of duplicitous

one is a kind of duplicitous

one is a kind of duplicitous saber-toothed tiger one is a

saber-toothed tiger one is a

saber-toothed tiger one is a curmudgeonly mammoths it turns out they

curmudgeonly mammoths it turns out they

curmudgeonly mammoths it turns out they have a heart of gold yeah I always from

have a heart of gold yeah I always from

have a heart of gold yeah I always from the beginning I like the themes in the

the beginning I like the themes in the

the beginning I like the themes in the movie about finding family where all the

movie about finding family where all the

movie about finding family where all the members didn’t look like each other and

members didn’t look like each other and

members didn’t look like each other and and being able to accomplish something

and being able to accomplish something

and being able to accomplish something together that no one individual could on

together that no one individual could on

together that no one individual could on their own the only caveat was that the

their own the only caveat was that the

their own the only caveat was that the studio that was financing the movie 20th

studio that was financing the movie 20th

studio that was financing the movie 20th Century Fox wanted us to take what was

Century Fox wanted us to take what was

Century Fox wanted us to take what was at the at that time a fairly straight

at the at that time a fairly straight

at the at that time a fairly straight forward adventure movie and and turning

forward adventure movie and and turning

forward adventure movie and and turning it into a comedy

it into a comedy

it into a comedy there was no mean feat because well for

there was no mean feat because well for

there was no mean feat because well for one thing the tiger wanted to eat the

one thing the tiger wanted to eat the

one thing the tiger wanted to eat the baby

baby

baby this was the Ice Age things were kind of

this was the Ice Age things were kind of

this was the Ice Age things were kind of rugged you know we in the script we had

rugged you know we in the script we had

rugged you know we in the script we had characters dropping off every other page

characters dropping off every other page

characters dropping off every other page but we took this as a challenge and and

but we took this as a challenge and and

but we took this as a challenge and and and we had at it now just a word about

and we had at it now just a word about

and we had at it now just a word about the way animations made most people know

the way animations made most people know

the way animations made most people know that to make a movie you write a script

that to make a movie you write a script

that to make a movie you write a script and you gonna shoot it and you cut it

and you gonna shoot it and you cut it

and you gonna shoot it and you cut it together and you have a movie

together and you have a movie

together and you have a movie well animations made almost in reverse

well animations made almost in reverse

well animations made almost in reverse order of this an animation we cut the

order of this an animation we cut the

order of this an animation we cut the movie then we animate it ie to this

movie then we animate it ie to this

movie then we animate it ie to this because it’s animations time-consuming

because it’s animations time-consuming

because it’s animations time-consuming and it’s expensive what we do is we draw

and it’s expensive what we do is we draw

and it’s expensive what we do is we draw little storyboards little quick drawings

little storyboards little quick drawings

little storyboards little quick drawings of every shot of the movie or a

of every shot of the movie or a

of every shot of the movie or a significant moment or you know

significant moment or you know

significant moment or you know significant character pose or expression

significant character pose or expression

significant character pose or expression we cut these all together into like a

we cut these all together into like a

we cut these all together into like a comic book version of the movie it’s a

comic book version of the movie it’s a

comic book version of the movie it’s a quick way to see how the whole thing is

quick way to see how the whole thing is

quick way to see how the whole thing is it’s gonna is going to

it’s gonna is going to

it’s gonna is going to it’s an iterative process you know it’s

it’s an iterative process you know it’s

it’s an iterative process you know it’s easy to change things but imagine you’ve

easy to change things but imagine you’ve

easy to change things but imagine you’ve been working on this for months

been working on this for months

been working on this for months sometimes up to a year thousands of

sometimes up to a year thousands of

sometimes up to a year thousands of drawings pouring all of your genius

drawings pouring all of your genius

drawings pouring all of your genius ideas into all this and then putting it

ideas into all this and then putting it

ideas into all this and then putting it up and watching it for the first time

up and watching it for the first time

up and watching it for the first time which is what I recommend the next time

which is what I recommend the next time

which is what I recommend the next time you do this and and seem like you know I

you do this and and seem like you know I

you do this and and seem like you know I put all my great ideas into this if it’s

put all my great ideas into this if it’s

put all my great ideas into this if it’s not playing exactly the way I thought it

not playing exactly the way I thought it

not playing exactly the way I thought it was you know that that that joke right

was you know that that that joke right

was you know that that that joke right there just isn’t funny because there’s

there just isn’t funny because there’s

there just isn’t funny because there’s one awfully similar in the sequence

one awfully similar in the sequence

one awfully similar in the sequence before it and and this in this moment

before it and and this in this moment

before it and and this in this moment here isn’t playing as emotionally as I

here isn’t playing as emotionally as I

here isn’t playing as emotionally as I thought it would because we haven’t

thought it would because we haven’t

thought it would because we haven’t spent the time developing the characters

spent the time developing the characters

spent the time developing the characters that enter that scene so you know you

that enter that scene so you know you

that enter that scene so you know you can go back and work on it and get to

can go back and work on it and get to

can go back and work on it and get to fix those little things and even make

fix those little things and even make

fix those little things and even make them a little different but usually what

them a little different but usually what

them a little different but usually what happens is after a little bit of time

happens is after a little bit of time

happens is after a little bit of time the the the the movie starts moving into

the the the the movie starts moving into

the the the the movie starts moving into places that you hadn’t anticipated and

places that you hadn’t anticipated and

places that you hadn’t anticipated and now now what do you do when kids are

now now what do you do when kids are

now now what do you do when kids are really little

really little

really little then they imprint on you they mimic you

then they imprint on you they mimic you

then they imprint on you they mimic you remembers my daughter saying something

remembers my daughter saying something

remembers my daughter saying something to me once and I don’t remember exactly

to me once and I don’t remember exactly

to me once and I don’t remember exactly what it was but but the effect for me

what it was but but the effect for me

what it was but but the effect for me was was of my own voice coming back from

was was of my own voice coming back from

was was of my own voice coming back from a tape recorder and I thought I’m like

a tape recorder and I thought I’m like

a tape recorder and I thought I’m like no no no no that doesn’t sound right

no no no no that doesn’t sound right

no no no no that doesn’t sound right coming out of your little face you know

coming out of your little face you know

coming out of your little face you know you have to be use your own voice you

you have to be use your own voice you

you have to be use your own voice you have to find your you know become your

have to find your you know become your

have to find your you know become your own person

own person

own person and in the same way you know I I went

and in the same way you know I I went

and in the same way you know I I went back and I looked at these reels and I

back and I looked at these reels and I

back and I looked at these reels and I realized I had to let the movie become

realized I had to let the movie become

realized I had to let the movie become what it kind of what it wanted to and

what it kind of what it wanted to and

what it kind of what it wanted to and become more of a guard and guard

become more of a guard and guard

become more of a guard and guard Guardian to it and and just like just

Guardian to it and and just like just

Guardian to it and and just like just try to try to nurture it and you know

try to try to nurture it and you know

try to try to nurture it and you know and try to keep bad influences away from

and try to keep bad influences away from

and try to keep bad influences away from it you never know I mean that was not to

it you never know I mean that was not to

it you never know I mean that was not to let no influences on it because a spirit

let no influences on it because a spirit

let no influences on it because a spirit of collaboration you never know when the

of collaboration you never know when the

of collaboration you never know when the next best idea is is going to come from

next best idea is is going to come from

next best idea is is going to come from but but you know you you know anyone I

but but you know you you know anyone I

but but you know you you know anyone I want to impose your strict will on it to

want to impose your strict will on it to

want to impose your strict will on it to keep it out of trouble to keep it safe

keep it out of trouble to keep it safe

keep it out of trouble to keep it safe keep it alive now the most

keep it alive now the most

keep it alive now the most interactive conversation I was having

interactive conversation I was having

interactive conversation I was having about the story yeah at that point was

about the story yeah at that point was

about the story yeah at that point was with the studio executives from from

with the studio executives from from

with the studio executives from from 20th Century Fox now these are the

20th Century Fox now these are the

20th Century Fox now these are the people that are responsible for not only

people that are responsible for not only

people that are responsible for not only the creative success of the movie but

the creative success of the movie but

the creative success of the movie but the financial success of the movie so

the financial success of the movie so

the financial success of the movie so it’s a real rubber meets the road thing

it’s a real rubber meets the road thing

it’s a real rubber meets the road thing it’s not it’s not an easy job and for

it’s not it’s not an easy job and for

it’s not it’s not an easy job and for the most part you know we were trying to

the most part you know we were trying to

the most part you know we were trying to make the same movie better as we went on

make the same movie better as we went on

make the same movie better as we went on but you know I’ll admit more than a few

but you know I’ll admit more than a few

but you know I’ll admit more than a few times we had disagreements over things

times we had disagreements over things

times we had disagreements over things like whether a joke was funny or not

like whether a joke was funny or not

like whether a joke was funny or not explain why a jokes funny or you know

explain why a jokes funny or you know

explain why a jokes funny or you know how much you know cartoon violence or

how much you know cartoon violence or

how much you know cartoon violence or sarcasm or slow pacing a family audience

sarcasm or slow pacing a family audience

sarcasm or slow pacing a family audience could tolerate now in the couple of

could tolerate now in the couple of

could tolerate now in the couple of years two or two-and-a-half years that I

years two or two-and-a-half years that I

years two or two-and-a-half years that I had been working on the movie that word

had been working on the movie that word

had been working on the movie that word audience was probably not one that had

audience was probably not one that had

audience was probably not one that had passed my lips but the studio knew they

passed my lips but the studio knew they

passed my lips but the studio knew they were out there and the day came when

were out there and the day came when

were out there and the day came when they they scheduled an audience preview

they they scheduled an audience preview

they they scheduled an audience preview for the movie now an audience preview

for the movie now an audience preview

for the movie now an audience preview for those of you that don’t know is it’s

for those of you that don’t know is it’s

for those of you that don’t know is it’s where you it’s a screening where you

where you it’s a screening where you

where you it’s a screening where you recruit an audience that that matches a

recruit an audience that that matches a

recruit an audience that that matches a demographic that you think the film is

demographic that you think the film is

demographic that you think the film is intended for and you sit and you watch

intended for and you sit and you watch

intended for and you sit and you watch it with them and afterwards often they

it with them and afterwards often they

it with them and afterwards often they fill out a questionnaire or sometimes

fill out a questionnaire or sometimes

fill out a questionnaire or sometimes they sit in a focus group and this

they sit in a focus group and this

they sit in a focus group and this happens on just about every movie that

happens on just about every movie that

happens on just about every movie that you see but this was this was my first

you see but this was this was my first

you see but this was this was my first movie and part of me was thinking wow

movie and part of me was thinking wow

movie and part of me was thinking wow there are a lot of opinions a lot of

there are a lot of opinions a lot of

there are a lot of opinions a lot of opinion swarming around this right now

opinion swarming around this right now

opinion swarming around this right now do they disagree with mine so much that

do they disagree with mine so much that

do they disagree with mine so much that they’re gonna leave it up to an audience

they’re gonna leave it up to an audience

they’re gonna leave it up to an audience to decide what to do with this movie so

to decide what to do with this movie so

to decide what to do with this movie so I’ve given you a lot of this background

I’ve given you a lot of this background

I’ve given you a lot of this background you know building the company up from

you know building the company up from

you know building the company up from nothing and my lifelong you know quest

nothing and my lifelong you know quest

nothing and my lifelong you know quest to get to this moment to help you

to get to this moment to help you

to get to this moment to help you understand my perspective in this moment

understand my perspective in this moment

understand my perspective in this moment you know the

you know the

you know the you know my deserving feeling of being

you know my deserving feeling of being

you know my deserving feeling of being in a tour on the movie wasn’t gonna be

in a tour on the movie wasn’t gonna be

in a tour on the movie wasn’t gonna be somebody in the audience that knew more

somebody in the audience that knew more

somebody in the audience that knew more about my movie than I did and plus at

about my movie than I did and plus at

about my movie than I did and plus at this point it’s not finished you know

this point it’s not finished you know

this point it’s not finished you know it’s only half animated and so the rest

it’s only half animated and so the rest

it’s only half animated and so the rest is in those story reels I was talking

is in those story reels I was talking

is in those story reels I was talking about how are they even going to

about how are they even going to

about how are they even going to understand it well the night before we

understand it well the night before we

understand it well the night before we left on the preview for the preview we

left on the preview for the preview we

left on the preview for the preview we sat and we watched the movie in

sat and we watched the movie in

sat and we watched the movie in editorial and I just had the flattest

editorial and I just had the flattest

editorial and I just had the flattest experience of it that I had had to that

experience of it that I had had to that

experience of it that I had had to that point you know with the anxiety of my

point you know with the anxiety of my

point you know with the anxiety of my excited about losing control and after

excited about losing control and after

excited about losing control and after hearing the same jokes over and over

hearing the same jokes over and over

hearing the same jokes over and over again a million times it just was it was

again a million times it just was it was

again a million times it just was it was completely lifeless and I thought oh my

completely lifeless and I thought oh my

completely lifeless and I thought oh my god you know they know something I don’t

god you know they know something I don’t

god you know they know something I don’t know they’re there right you know I’m

know they’re there right you know I’m

know they’re there right you know I’m headed for a fall here so that Saturday

headed for a fall here so that Saturday

headed for a fall here so that Saturday morning we pull up to a multiplex in a

morning we pull up to a multiplex in a

morning we pull up to a multiplex in a suburb of Los Angeles and I see a line

suburb of Los Angeles and I see a line

suburb of Los Angeles and I see a line of people sneaking out the entrance and

of people sneaking out the entrance and

of people sneaking out the entrance and around the back of the building and

around the back of the building and

around the back of the building and people of matching polo shirts and

people of matching polo shirts and

people of matching polo shirts and clipboards and walkie-talkies walking

clipboards and walkie-talkies walking

clipboards and walkie-talkies walking around and one of the producers said to

around and one of the producers said to

around and one of the producers said to me well there’s your audience so I

me well there’s your audience so I

me well there’s your audience so I walked up to them and there’s I got

walked up to them and there’s I got

walked up to them and there’s I got close my my heart sank into my shoes

close my my heart sank into my shoes

close my my heart sank into my shoes here were hundreds of people who at

here were hundreds of people who at

here were hundreds of people who at first glance were and true to my

first glance were and true to my

first glance were and true to my suspicions were completely different

suspicions were completely different

suspicions were completely different than me you know different shapes and

than me you know different shapes and

than me you know different shapes and sizes just to get started but but you

sizes just to get started but but you

sizes just to get started but but you know different different clothes you

know different different clothes you

know different different clothes you know different languages and and kids

know different languages and and kids

know different languages and and kids running around in their own tiny worlds

running around in their own tiny worlds

running around in their own tiny worlds distracting their parents I sat in the

distracting their parents I sat in the

distracting their parents I sat in the back of this theater and it didn’t have

back of this theater and it didn’t have

back of this theater and it didn’t have an objective view of the of the room and

an objective view of the of the room and

an objective view of the of the room and maybe to be close to the exit as these

maybe to be close to the exit as these

maybe to be close to the exit as these kids climbed over seats and you know

kids climbed over seats and you know

kids climbed over seats and you know some parents took them to get more soda

some parents took them to get more soda

some parents took them to get more soda and candy and other parents just leaned

and candy and other parents just leaned

and candy and other parents just leaned back and close their eyes and my career

back and close their eyes and my career

back and close their eyes and my career and the future of our company was just

and the future of our company was just

and the future of our company was just crumbling down around me yeah

crumbling down around me yeah

crumbling down around me yeah the lights went down and that familiar

the lights went down and that familiar

the lights went down and that familiar 20th Century Fox logo

20th Century Fox logo

20th Century Fox logo the fans that you know the klieg lights

the fans that you know the klieg lights

the fans that you know the klieg lights giant thing a fanfare you know for my

giant thing a fanfare you know for my

giant thing a fanfare you know for my poor half-finished movie hiding behind

poor half-finished movie hiding behind

poor half-finished movie hiding behind the curtains you know just ready to get

the curtains you know just ready to get

the curtains you know just ready to get walk out and give it all it had but you

walk out and give it all it had but you

walk out and give it all it had but you know they started watching and and

know they started watching and and

know they started watching and and before too long I realized that although

before too long I realized that although

before too long I realized that although I had all these emotional histories and

I had all these emotional histories and

I had all these emotional histories and you know knots and facial tics

you know knots and facial tics

you know knots and facial tics associated with every beat that was

associated with every beat that was

associated with every beat that was going by it was just another movie to

going by it was just another movie to

going by it was just another movie to them and as they started reacting an

them and as they started reacting an

them and as they started reacting an amazing thing started happening my

amazing thing started happening my

amazing thing started happening my perspective aligned with theirs and and

perspective aligned with theirs and and

perspective aligned with theirs and and the movie came to life they it it was

the movie came to life they it it was

the movie came to life they it it was like they were interacting with with the

like they were interacting with with the

like they were interacting with with the movie like it wasn’t no it wasn’t a one

movie like it wasn’t no it wasn’t a one

movie like it wasn’t no it wasn’t a one way street it was like they were

way street it was like they were

way street it was like they were projecting their imaginations into it

projecting their imaginations into it

projecting their imaginations into it and in inflating it in so it seemed

and in inflating it in so it seemed

and in inflating it in so it seemed almost as if the characters were you

almost as if the characters were you

almost as if the characters were you know we’re like reaching off the screen

know we’re like reaching off the screen

know we’re like reaching off the screen and the space between the seats and the

and the space between the seats and the

and the space between the seats and the screen was filled with this very

screen was filled with this very

screen was filled with this very palpable energy of engagement and the

palpable energy of engagement and the

palpable energy of engagement and the fluctuation of that or the intensity of

fluctuation of that or the intensity of

fluctuation of that or the intensity of it became the only measure of creative

it became the only measure of creative

it became the only measure of creative integrity that I was you know cared

integrity that I was you know cared

integrity that I was you know cared about from from from from that moment

about from from from from that moment

about from from from from that moment forward you know they didn’t realize it

forward you know they didn’t realize it

forward you know they didn’t realize it but they were collaborating with me at

but they were collaborating with me at

but they were collaborating with me at that point it was probably the most

that point it was probably the most

that point it was probably the most vivid moment of collaboration I had on

vivid moment of collaboration I had on

vivid moment of collaboration I had on the whole project and it wasn’t coming

the whole project and it wasn’t coming

the whole project and it wasn’t coming from you know like an average of

from you know like an average of

from you know like an average of different voices it was coming out of

different voices it was coming out of

different voices it was coming out of this kind of communal intuition that was

this kind of communal intuition that was

this kind of communal intuition that was coming out of this crowd of people that

coming out of this crowd of people that

coming out of this crowd of people that I had seen so disparate only 20 minutes

I had seen so disparate only 20 minutes

I had seen so disparate only 20 minutes before so I went right back to work on

before so I went right back to work on

before so I went right back to work on it we worked hard with a renewed sense

it we worked hard with a renewed sense

it we worked hard with a renewed sense of focus and confidence and by the time

of focus and confidence and by the time

of focus and confidence and by the time we were done

we were done

we were done we knew we had it you know the last

we knew we had it you know the last

we knew we had it you know the last screening a kid in front of me literally

screening a kid in front of me literally

screening a kid in front of me literally fell out of his chair laughing and and

fell out of his chair laughing and and

fell out of his chair laughing and and there was a lady behind us I heard make

there was a lady behind us I heard make

there was a lady behind us I heard make that little gasp when like one of them

that little gasp when like one of them

that little gasp when like one of them you know one of our characters was

you know one of our characters was

you know one of our characters was reunited with his heard and I and I you

reunited with his heard and I and I you

reunited with his heard and I and I you know I don’t say any of this to for my

know I don’t say any of this to for my

know I don’t say any of this to for my own self aggrandizement it was you know

own self aggrandizement it was you know

own self aggrandizement it was you know in order for it to work I had to get out

in order for it to work I had to get out

in order for it to work I had to get out of the way a couple years ago later we

of the way a couple years ago later we

of the way a couple years ago later we were we were approaching the end of our

were we were approaching the end of our

were we were approaching the end of our next movie and we finally had some

next movie and we finally had some

next movie and we finally had some finished footage to show to the CRO and

finished footage to show to the CRO and

finished footage to show to the CRO and up it went and they owed and odd and

up it went and they owed and odd and

up it went and they owed and odd and it’s validated everything we’d been

it’s validated everything we’d been

it’s validated everything we’d been going after and helped them understand

going after and helped them understand

going after and helped them understand where we were going and one of the

where we were going and one of the

where we were going and one of the artists on the staff walked up to me

artists on the staff walked up to me

artists on the staff walked up to me afterwards

afterwards

afterwards a recent member to our crew but a but a

a recent member to our crew but a but a

a recent member to our crew but a but a but a but a veteran of many other

but a but a veteran of many other

but a but a veteran of many other animated movies and he said with a

animated movies and he said with a

animated movies and he said with a wizened grin he said well here’s where

wizened grin he said well here’s where

wizened grin he said well here’s where the movie gets bigger than the people

the movie gets bigger than the people

the movie gets bigger than the people that made it yeah bigger the people who

that made it yeah bigger the people who

that made it yeah bigger the people who made it and then I thought that’s deep

made it and then I thought that’s deep

made it and then I thought that’s deep that’s like what what what what what

that’s like what what what what what

that’s like what what what what what does that mean I you know I couldn’t

does that mean I you know I couldn’t

does that mean I you know I couldn’t figure out it stuck with me and it felt

figure out it stuck with me and it felt

figure out it stuck with me and it felt like kind of important and I’ve always

like kind of important and I’ve always

like kind of important and I’ve always had it in my head and I’ve never quite

had it in my head and I’ve never quite

had it in my head and I’ve never quite understood why you know is it that ok

understood why you know is it that ok

understood why you know is it that ok you know you gather enough people and

you know you gather enough people and

you know you gather enough people and together they put in more man-hours than

together they put in more man-hours than

together they put in more man-hours than any one person has in a lifetime

any one person has in a lifetime

any one person has in a lifetime there’s bigger than oh I get that you

there’s bigger than oh I get that you

there’s bigger than oh I get that you know or is it that intangible you know

know or is it that intangible you know

know or is it that intangible you know whole is greater than the sum of its

whole is greater than the sum of its

whole is greater than the sum of its parts and I think yeah well maybe you

parts and I think yeah well maybe you

parts and I think yeah well maybe you know if you leave the movie alone do you

know if you leave the movie alone do you

know if you leave the movie alone do you let it with all the influences around it

let it with all the influences around it

let it with all the influences around it and all the help from everybody it

and all the help from everybody it

and all the help from everybody it becomes something distinct from every

becomes something distinct from every

becomes something distinct from every you know from the rest of it you know

you know from the rest of it you know

you know from the rest of it you know but when I think about it you know after

but when I think about it you know after

but when I think about it you know after working after all that work and they all

working after all that work and they all

working after all that work and they all the effort it’s like sitting in that

the effort it’s like sitting in that

the effort it’s like sitting in that group in that audience you know in a

group in that audience you know in a

group in that audience you know in a group of people that are completely

group of people that are completely

group of people that are completely different on the outside you know and

different on the outside you know and

different on the outside you know and you’re all feeling the same thing

you’re all feeling the same thing

you’re all feeling the same thing together on the ends

together on the ends

together on the ends that’s that’s like the point to me

that’s that’s like the point to me

that’s that’s like the point to me that’s when it’s working that’s when

that’s when it’s working that’s when

that’s when it’s working that’s when it’s bigger than everybody and that’s

it’s bigger than everybody and that’s

it’s bigger than everybody and that’s what I’ve been going with so thanks

what I’ve been going with so thanks

what I’ve been going with so thanks [Applause]

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