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Behind the Kudzu Curtain | Arinthea Carter | TEDxGreenville


in abandoned building our house I don’t

in abandoned building our house I don’t start photographing right away I stand

start photographing right away I stand

start photographing right away I stand there in the quiet amongst the broken

there in the quiet amongst the broken

there in the quiet amongst the broken glass and rusted machinery and I let the

glass and rusted machinery and I let the

glass and rusted machinery and I let the building’s just speak to me and that’s

building’s just speak to me and that’s

building’s just speak to me and that’s when I start noticing the brightly

when I start noticing the brightly

when I start noticing the brightly colored walls the brickwork and the

colored walls the brickwork and the

colored walls the brickwork and the masonry hiding under layers of kudzu

masonry hiding under layers of kudzu

masonry hiding under layers of kudzu rust and molds hey everybody so uh so

rust and molds hey everybody so uh so

rust and molds hey everybody so uh so rule expiration or R or X is the

rule expiration or R or X is the

rule expiration or R or X is the expiration of abandoned spaces for the

expiration of abandoned spaces for the

expiration of abandoned spaces for the interest of arts historical interest and

interest of arts historical interest and

interest of arts historical interest and adventure and of course the rural part

adventure and of course the rural part

adventure and of course the rural part means I’m roaming the countryside

means I’m roaming the countryside

means I’m roaming the countryside looking for sketchy places and the

looking for sketchy places and the

looking for sketchy places and the opposite side of that is herb X which is

opposite side of that is herb X which is

opposite side of that is herb X which is in the city so you see a lot of steel

in the city so you see a lot of steel

in the city so you see a lot of steel mills and things like that but my my

mills and things like that but my my

mills and things like that but my my focus is the South Granada countryside

focus is the South Granada countryside

focus is the South Granada countryside so being a rule Explorer means that I

so being a rule Explorer means that I

so being a rule Explorer means that I spend a lot of time in dark places and

spend a lot of time in dark places and

spend a lot of time in dark places and as someone living with depression I

as someone living with depression I

as someone living with depression I spend a lot of time in dark places

spend a lot of time in dark places

spend a lot of time in dark places literally and figuratively so I’ll spare

literally and figuratively so I’ll spare

literally and figuratively so I’ll spare you the Wikipedia read through of what

you the Wikipedia read through of what

you the Wikipedia read through of what depression is and how it affects your

depression is and how it affects your

depression is and how it affects your mental and physical well-being and I’ll

mental and physical well-being and I’ll

mental and physical well-being and I’ll just say it straight out depression is

just say it straight out depression is

just say it straight out depression is absolute it’s crazy right so

absolute it’s crazy right so

absolute it’s crazy right so I’m not saying it’s not real it’s

I’m not saying it’s not real it’s

I’m not saying it’s not real it’s definitely real

definitely real

definitely real but it the way that it makes you feel is

but it the way that it makes you feel is

but it the way that it makes you feel is is it’s yes

is it’s yes

is it’s yes so hey mom I’m sorry I said that word so

so hey mom I’m sorry I said that word so

so hey mom I’m sorry I said that word so it makes you feel like you’re isolated

it makes you feel like you’re isolated

it makes you feel like you’re isolated it makes you feel like the dark is where

it makes you feel like the dark is where

it makes you feel like the dark is where you belong and it makes you feel that no

you belong and it makes you feel that no

you belong and it makes you feel that no one will ever love you and even if they

one will ever love you and even if they

one will ever love you and even if they did love you you certainly don’t deserve

did love you you certainly don’t deserve

did love you you certainly don’t deserve it so I know what it’s like this

it so I know what it’s like this

it so I know what it’s like this disappear under layers

disappear under layers

disappear under layers of decay waiting for someone to find me

of decay waiting for someone to find me

of decay waiting for someone to find me so I was diagnosed with depression in

so I was diagnosed with depression in

so I was diagnosed with depression in graduate school where I was studying of

graduate school where I was studying of

graduate school where I was studying of all things counselor education and I

all things counselor education and I

all things counselor education and I knew as a new counselor that knew

knew as a new counselor that knew

knew as a new counselor that knew everything that only sleeps me a couple

everything that only sleeps me a couple

everything that only sleeps me a couple hours at night for a couple of weeks was

hours at night for a couple of weeks was

hours at night for a couple of weeks was probably not a good thing so I decided

probably not a good thing so I decided

probably not a good thing so I decided to go to the medical center for help

to go to the medical center for help

to go to the medical center for help hoping to be prescribed something that

hoping to be prescribed something that

hoping to be prescribed something that would help me finally get some rest and

would help me finally get some rest and

would help me finally get some rest and so when I met with my doctor after

so when I met with my doctor after

so when I met with my doctor after hearing the usual questions he asked me

hearing the usual questions he asked me

hearing the usual questions he asked me one thing he said do you have Dino if

one thing he said do you have Dino if

one thing he said do you have Dino if you have a history of depression and of

you have a history of depression and of

you have a history of depression and of course knowing everything I said no I

course knowing everything I said no I

course knowing everything I said no I was just tired obviously aren’t you the

was just tired obviously aren’t you the

was just tired obviously aren’t you the doctor you just see that and he said you

doctor you just see that and he said you

doctor you just see that and he said you I want you to do me a favor and he gave

I want you to do me a favor and he gave

I want you to do me a favor and he gave me an instruction that probably saved my

me an instruction that probably saved my

me an instruction that probably saved my life at that point he said I want you to

life at that point he said I want you to

life at that point he said I want you to make a appointment with a therapist and

make a appointment with a therapist and

make a appointment with a therapist and come back to me and so of course I

come back to me and so of course I

come back to me and so of course I wanted to prove him wrong so I made the

wanted to prove him wrong so I made the

wanted to prove him wrong so I made the appointment and after again asking the

appointment and after again asking the

appointment and after again asking the usual questions my therapist asked me

usual questions my therapist asked me

usual questions my therapist asked me something that changed everything she

something that changed everything she

something that changed everything she said tell me what’s been going on that’s

said tell me what’s been going on that’s

said tell me what’s been going on that’s keeping you from from sleeping and it

keeping you from from sleeping and it

keeping you from from sleeping and it was like a dam broke everything that had

was like a dam broke everything that had

was like a dam broke everything that had pinned up things I knew and things I

pinned up things I knew and things I

pinned up things I knew and things I didn’t know kind of poured forth from me

didn’t know kind of poured forth from me

didn’t know kind of poured forth from me and I felt relief for the first time and

and I felt relief for the first time and

and I felt relief for the first time and so my path ala darkness was struck at

so my path ala darkness was struck at

so my path ala darkness was struck at that point and I was diagnosed and

that point and I was diagnosed and

that point and I was diagnosed and depressants and of course I had my

depressants and of course I had my

depressants and of course I had my doubts I was afraid that I would become

doubts I was afraid that I would become

doubts I was afraid that I would become a person that had too many emotions that

a person that had too many emotions that

a person that had too many emotions that goes into a person had no emotions at

goes into a person had no emotions at

goes into a person had no emotions at all and so I didn’t want to be a robot

all and so I didn’t want to be a robot

all and so I didn’t want to be a robot so I fought against that but I went

so I fought against that but I went

so I fought against that but I went ahead and took them it did change me it

ahead and took them it did change me it

ahead and took them it did change me it changed me for in a positive direction

changed me for in a positive direction

changed me for in a positive direction it allowed me to manage my emotions sad

it allowed me to manage my emotions sad

it allowed me to manage my emotions sad was really sad and happy was indeed

was really sad and happy was indeed

was really sad and happy was indeed happy so I knew exactly how was feeling

happy so I knew exactly how was feeling

happy so I knew exactly how was feeling and I can process that my

and I can process that my

and I can process that my everybody else at that time and I

everybody else at that time and I

everybody else at that time and I process that clarity through my art so

process that clarity through my art so

process that clarity through my art so art was something that I’d always clung

art was something that I’d always clung

art was something that I’d always clung to it’s something it’s a way that you

to it’s something it’s a way that you

to it’s something it’s a way that you can say anything you wanted while using

can say anything you wanted while using

can say anything you wanted while using a few words and so I started exploring

a few words and so I started exploring

a few words and so I started exploring the countryside going along drives and I

the countryside going along drives and I

the countryside going along drives and I started noticing these homes just

started noticing these homes just

started noticing these homes just hanging out under kudzu and when you

hanging out under kudzu and when you

hanging out under kudzu and when you have depression sometimes you make bad

have depression sometimes you make bad

have depression sometimes you make bad choices and I started looking through

choices and I started looking through

choices and I started looking through windows peeking through doors going in

windows peeking through doors going in

windows peeking through doors going in those doors and and seeing what light

those doors and and seeing what light

those doors and and seeing what light with what what lay within and I at that

with what what lay within and I at that

with what what lay within and I at that moment I stopped seeing these places as

moment I stopped seeing these places as

moment I stopped seeing these places as buildings excuse me I feel like a

buildings excuse me I feel like a

buildings excuse me I feel like a superstar when I did that oh my goodness

um so I stopped seeing these places as

um so I stopped seeing these places as buildings I started seeing them as

buildings I started seeing them as

buildings I started seeing them as sleeping giants as as actual beings that

sleeping giants as as actual beings that

sleeping giants as as actual beings that have stories that needed to be told I

have stories that needed to be told I

have stories that needed to be told I mean these places their homes once

mean these places their homes once

mean these places their homes once people live there people loved there

people live there people loved there

people live there people loved there once they had stories that were

once they had stories that were

once they had stories that were essential to where we are today in our

essential to where we are today in our

essential to where we are today in our country now this one here I’ll have to

country now this one here I’ll have to

country now this one here I’ll have to say is this one is a house in

say is this one is a house in

say is this one is a house in Westminster and after I left this house

Westminster and after I left this house

Westminster and after I left this house and developed a photo someone said I

and developed a photo someone said I

and developed a photo someone said I think you were in a mess house oh well

think you were in a mess house oh well

think you were in a mess house oh well whoopsies so so I survived that I’m here

whoopsies so so I survived that I’m here

whoopsies so so I survived that I’m here to here to say that I am I am okay uh so

to here to say that I am I am okay uh so

to here to say that I am I am okay uh so uh so my friends will tell you that I

uh so my friends will tell you that I

uh so my friends will tell you that I personify these buildings I talk about

personify these buildings I talk about

personify these buildings I talk about them like they’re actual people I used

them like they’re actual people I used

them like they’re actual people I used the pronouns she and he and all that but

the pronouns she and he and all that but

the pronouns she and he and all that but one one place that I had particular

one one place that I had particular

one one place that I had particular kinship with was Cortney mill in Newry

kinship with was Cortney mill in Newry

kinship with was Cortney mill in Newry South Carolina and somebody may be

South Carolina and somebody may be

South Carolina and somebody may be familiar with the mill

familiar with the mill

familiar with the mill uh Courtney sits on at the edge of a

uh Courtney sits on at the edge of a

uh Courtney sits on at the edge of a small village that she used to support

small village that she used to support

small village that she used to support and she supported the village until she

and she supported the village until she

and she supported the village until she ceased operations in 1975 now in her

ceased operations in 1975 now in her

ceased operations in 1975 now in her heyday she was a center of cotton plant

heyday she was a center of cotton plant

heyday she was a center of cotton plant processing and inside

processing and inside

processing and inside she had walls that were brilliantly

she had walls that were brilliantly

she had walls that were brilliantly painted that was one of the first things

painted that was one of the first things

painted that was one of the first things I noticed about her she had a beautiful

I noticed about her she had a beautiful

I noticed about her she had a beautiful brickwork throughout like people really

brickwork throughout like people really

brickwork throughout like people really took their time to build these mills and

took their time to build these mills and

took their time to build these mills and the the windows in her towers were this

the the windows in her towers were this

the the windows in her towers were this perfect tiffany blue and so that was

perfect tiffany blue and so that was

perfect tiffany blue and so that was just something that struck me about her

just something that struck me about her

just something that struck me about her the first time I got to go and visit her

the first time I got to go and visit her

the first time I got to go and visit her so now nuri mill she Kourtney mill

so now nuri mill she Kourtney mill

so now nuri mill she Kourtney mill actually she lives on in stories of

actually she lives on in stories of

actually she lives on in stories of Murray at his heyday its production

Murray at his heyday its production

Murray at his heyday its production floors are silence full of rotting wood

floors are silence full of rotting wood

floors are silence full of rotting wood and in in holes and the as you can see

and in in holes and the as you can see

and in in holes and the as you can see there the windows are they lie in the

there the windows are they lie in the

there the windows are they lie in the ivy that have grown up around the

ivy that have grown up around the

ivy that have grown up around the building and so you don’t really see a

building and so you don’t really see a

building and so you don’t really see a lot of people going through Courtney

lot of people going through Courtney

lot of people going through Courtney mill one because it’s not the safest

mill one because it’s not the safest

mill one because it’s not the safest place and two because you know people

place and two because you know people

place and two because you know people don’t really know her story so recently

don’t really know her story so recently

don’t really know her story so recently you may have heard the news that

you may have heard the news that

you may have heard the news that Courtney caught fire after a lightning

Courtney caught fire after a lightning

Courtney caught fire after a lightning strike as she was suddenly back in the

strike as she was suddenly back in the

strike as she was suddenly back in the public consciousness and sometimes it

public consciousness and sometimes it

public consciousness and sometimes it takes that spark or near destruction for

takes that spark or near destruction for

takes that spark or near destruction for you to realize that what’s really

you to realize that what’s really

you to realize that what’s really precious that you are important and on

precious that you are important and on

precious that you are important and on the flip side you really see someone for

the flip side you really see someone for

the flip side you really see someone for what they really are and what they may

what they really are and what they may

what they really are and what they may be going through and so if you’re living

be going through and so if you’re living

be going through and so if you’re living with depression just know just like

with depression just know just like

with depression just know just like Noori mill you’re very important you

Noori mill you’re very important you

Noori mill you’re very important you have a story that needs to be told you

have a story that needs to be told you

have a story that needs to be told you may be battered a little bit your glass

may be battered a little bit your glass

may be battered a little bit your glass may be broken but we need to know what

may be broken but we need to know what

may be broken but we need to know what you added to our our world our world

you added to our our world our world

you added to our our world our world story and for people who love us living

story and for people who love us living

story and for people who love us living with depression sometimes you’re going

with depression sometimes you’re going

with depression sometimes you’re going to have to make choices that you didn’t

to have to make choices that you didn’t

to have to make choices that you didn’t think you would make you have to peek

think you would make you have to peek

think you would make you have to peek behind windows you’re going to have to

behind windows you’re going to have to

behind windows you’re going to have to climb over

climb over

climb over walls that we’ve built around ourselves

walls that we’ve built around ourselves

walls that we’ve built around ourselves and you’re going to have to risk getting

and you’re going to have to risk getting

and you’re going to have to risk getting cut by some of the barbs that we put

cut by some of the barbs that we put

cut by some of the barbs that we put around our hearts there and it’s worth

around our hearts there and it’s worth

around our hearts there and it’s worth it

it

it we sometimes we’re just waiting there

we sometimes we’re just waiting there

we sometimes we’re just waiting there for someone to help us get out of that

for someone to help us get out of that

for someone to help us get out of that now there’s going to be times where I’m

now there’s going to be times where I’m

now there’s going to be times where I’m going to be a superstar again there’s go

going to be a superstar again there’s go

going to be a superstar again there’s go many times where you don’t know what to

many times where you don’t know what to

many times where you don’t know what to do um and all you can do is watch from

do um and all you can do is watch from

do um and all you can do is watch from afar and I would never say it’s not okay

afar and I would never say it’s not okay

afar and I would never say it’s not okay sometimes you can love somebody and you

sometimes you can love somebody and you

sometimes you can love somebody and you want nothing but their health and

want nothing but their health and

want nothing but their health and survival and for them to know how

survival and for them to know how

survival and for them to know how important they are to you but they’re

important they are to you but they’re

important they are to you but they’re also going to be times that you don’t

also going to be times that you don’t

also going to be times that you don’t know what to do and you have to sit and

know what to do and you have to sit and

know what to do and you have to sit and watch from afar until you know exactly

watch from afar until you know exactly

watch from afar until you know exactly how you can help so I’ll tell you a

how you can help so I’ll tell you a

how you can help so I’ll tell you a story about the time time I took my

story about the time time I took my

story about the time time I took my parents actually shooting with me one

parents actually shooting with me one

parents actually shooting with me one time and I’m sure you’re wondering how

time and I’m sure you’re wondering how

time and I’m sure you’re wondering how my parents feel about me doing this they

my parents feel about me doing this they

my parents feel about me doing this they do not like it okay so they my mom has

do not like it okay so they my mom has

do not like it okay so they my mom has made me promise not to go to any site by

made me promise not to go to any site by

made me promise not to go to any site by myself because she’s afraid I’m gonna

myself because she’s afraid I’m gonna

myself because she’s afraid I’m gonna fall down a well shaft and die so so I

fall down a well shaft and die so so I

fall down a well shaft and die so so I promise that I won’t won’t won’t do that

promise that I won’t won’t won’t do that

promise that I won’t won’t won’t do that uh so I took my parents with me and we

uh so I took my parents with me and we

uh so I took my parents with me and we decided to go and explore my my dad’s

decided to go and explore my my dad’s

decided to go and explore my my dad’s hometown of Chester South Carolina and

hometown of Chester South Carolina and

hometown of Chester South Carolina and my dad was really excited to show me in

my dad was really excited to show me in

my dad was really excited to show me in the mill that he’d worked at as as a

the mill that he’d worked at as as a

the mill that he’d worked at as as a teenager and that that morning as I got

teenager and that that morning as I got

teenager and that that morning as I got ready I was packing my lenses in my

ready I was packing my lenses in my

ready I was packing my lenses in my camera and my air filter mask a lot of

camera and my air filter mask a lot of

camera and my air filter mask a lot of that goes into this my mom comes out and

that goes into this my mom comes out and

that goes into this my mom comes out and she shows me how she prepared for this

she shows me how she prepared for this

she shows me how she prepared for this she had two outfits one this is neither

she had two outfits one this is neither

she had two outfits one this is neither her own words one that in case we had to

her own words one that in case we had to

her own words one that in case we had to run away quickly

run away quickly

run away quickly and the other a case we had to climb

and the other a case we had to climb

and the other a case we had to climb over things and so at that moment I

over things and so at that moment I

over things and so at that moment I never loved my mom more than them

never loved my mom more than them

never loved my mom more than them because she knew how important this was

because she knew how important this was

because she knew how important this was to me

to me

to me to the point that she planned outfits

to the point that she planned outfits

to the point that she planned outfits for it so I said it’s my mom and I

for it so I said it’s my mom and I

for it so I said it’s my mom and I should mention at this point that both

should mention at this point that both

should mention at this point that both outfits were white so yeah so you know

outfits were white so yeah so you know

outfits were white so yeah so you know you never know so um when we were going

you never know so um when we were going

you never know so um when we were going to our first site my parents decided

to our first site my parents decided

to our first site my parents decided that they weren’t going to explore with

that they weren’t going to explore with

that they weren’t going to explore with me they were going to wait in the car

me they were going to wait in the car

me they were going to wait in the car where the air conditioning was and they

where the air conditioning was and they

where the air conditioning was and they would drive slowly and when I went out

would drive slowly and when I went out

would drive slowly and when I went out of sight so I I’ve never you know when I

of sight so I I’ve never you know when I

of sight so I I’ve never you know when I go shooting I don’t I’m not used to a

go shooting I don’t I’m not used to a

go shooting I don’t I’m not used to a car I usually have a cars behind me I

car I usually have a cars behind me I

car I usually have a cars behind me I should probably go right so is this that

should probably go right so is this that

should probably go right so is this that yeah this is where they were comfortable

yeah this is where they were comfortable

yeah this is where they were comfortable but at that point they weren’t sure

but at that point they weren’t sure

but at that point they weren’t sure they’re ready to take that journey with

they’re ready to take that journey with

they’re ready to take that journey with me they knew that they were comfortable

me they knew that they were comfortable

me they knew that they were comfortable watching from afar but they didn’t know

watching from afar but they didn’t know

watching from afar but they didn’t know how to reach in there and grab me so

how to reach in there and grab me so

how to reach in there and grab me so eventually they got out of the car and

eventually they got out of the car and

eventually they got out of the car and walked around with me and it meant so

walked around with me and it meant so

walked around with me and it meant so much because it meant that they saw just

much because it meant that they saw just

much because it meant that they saw just what I’m doing just how important it was

what I’m doing just how important it was

what I’m doing just how important it was to me and that this was indeed my

to me and that this was indeed my

to me and that this was indeed my self-care and so sometimes we you love

self-care and so sometimes we you love

self-care and so sometimes we you love somebody with depression sometimes it

somebody with depression sometimes it

somebody with depression sometimes it takes you a little bit but it makes so

takes you a little bit but it makes so

takes you a little bit but it makes so it’s such a big difference when we see

it’s such a big difference when we see

it’s such a big difference when we see that you’re walking next to us and even

that you’re walking next to us and even

that you’re walking next to us and even if we’re looking behind you behind us

if we’re looking behind you behind us

if we’re looking behind you behind us and we see that you are you know

and we see that you are you know

and we see that you are you know supporting us from afar as long as we

supporting us from afar as long as we

supporting us from afar as long as we know that you’re in our lives sometimes

know that you’re in our lives sometimes

know that you’re in our lives sometimes that makes the hugest difference and so

that makes the hugest difference and so

that makes the hugest difference and so today I’m able to live a full and

today I’m able to live a full and

today I’m able to live a full and creative life I am still taking in

creative life I am still taking in

creative life I am still taking in depressants still going to therapy and

depressants still going to therapy and

depressants still going to therapy and I’m able to and now my my work my art

I’m able to and now my my work my art

I’m able to and now my my work my art has allowed me to spread this message

has allowed me to spread this message

has allowed me to spread this message across the world so

across the world so

across the world so um all I have to say is that by giving

um all I have to say is that by giving

um all I have to say is that by giving myself walk over to these buildings and

myself walk over to these buildings and

myself walk over to these buildings and learning their stories

learning their stories

learning their stories I learned my own story and I learned how

I learned my own story and I learned how

I learned my own story and I learned how precious I was and they they basically

precious I was and they they basically

precious I was and they they basically saved me and so at this point I know how

saved me and so at this point I know how

saved me and so at this point I know how to come out of the dark on my own and

to come out of the dark on my own and

to come out of the dark on my own and reach for the light thank you

reach for the light thank you

reach for the light thank you [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] [Music]

[Music]

[Music] you

you

you [Music]

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