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Academic Freedom for the Young | Maarten Lamers | TEDxYouth@HNLBilthoven


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in and around 2011-2012

in and around 2011-2012 a an American high school student by the

a an American high school student by the

a an American high school student by the name of Jack andraka you may know his

name of Jack andraka you may know his

name of Jack andraka you may know his name

developed by himself a novel test for

developed by himself a novel test for detecting early stage pancreatic cancer

detecting early stage pancreatic cancer

detecting early stage pancreatic cancer and let me tell you that’s quite an

and let me tell you that’s quite an

and let me tell you that’s quite an achievement for a teenager you will

achievement for a teenager you will

achievement for a teenager you will understand and he was a teenager by the

understand and he was a teenager by the

understand and he was a teenager by the time actually a month after he turned 16

time actually a month after he turned 16

time actually a month after he turned 16 he gave a TED lecture this one sorry a

he gave a TED lecture this one sorry a

he gave a TED lecture this one sorry a TED lecture on the topic and I advise

TED lecture on the topic and I advise

TED lecture on the topic and I advise everyone to see that lecture I very much

everyone to see that lecture I very much

everyone to see that lecture I very much like it and Jack andraka clearly is a

like it and Jack andraka clearly is a

like it and Jack andraka clearly is a very keen bright young researcher the

very keen bright young researcher the

very keen bright young researcher the type of research we want to solve big

type of research we want to solve big

type of research we want to solve big problems and it is in our best interest

problems and it is in our best interest

problems and it is in our best interest of all of us to make sure we have many

of all of us to make sure we have many

of all of us to make sure we have many bright young researchers coming up

bright young researchers coming up

bright young researchers coming up aligned for the future and one way to

aligned for the future and one way to

aligned for the future and one way to get that done is education obviously and

get that done is education obviously and

get that done is education obviously and high school education I think is where

high school education I think is where

high school education I think is where that should start we typically think of

that should start we typically think of

that should start we typically think of research and academia in universities

research and academia in universities

research and academia in universities university education but I believe I

university education but I believe I

university education but I believe I firmly believe that should start in high

firmly believe that should start in high

firmly believe that should start in high school and one way to in which we

school and one way to in which we

school and one way to in which we actually educate students towards

actually educate students towards

actually educate students towards becoming maybe a researcher or a great

becoming maybe a researcher or a great

becoming maybe a researcher or a great mind is via science science projects in

mind is via science science projects in

mind is via science science projects in high school and that’s what I want to

high school and that’s what I want to

high school and that’s what I want to talk about science projects don’t worry

talk about science projects don’t worry

talk about science projects don’t worry about the sly disappearing I just made

about the sly disappearing I just made

about the sly disappearing I just made that happen yeah sometimes people worry

that happen yeah sometimes people worry

that happen yeah sometimes people worry we use science projects in an

we use science projects in an

we use science projects in an expectation that students will learn the

expectation that students will learn the

expectation that students will learn the intricacies of science the principles of

intricacies of science the principles of

intricacies of science the principles of science things like how to formulate the

science things like how to formulate the

science things like how to formulate the hypotheses how to test the hypothesis

hypotheses how to test the hypothesis

hypotheses how to test the hypothesis maybe how to construct rational

maybe how to construct rational

maybe how to construct rational arguments how to deal with data how to

arguments how to deal with data how to

arguments how to deal with data how to reflect on your own on your own results

reflect on your own on your own results

reflect on your own on your own results how to report your results so that other

how to report your results so that other

how to report your results so that other people can understand them and maybe

people can understand them and maybe

people can understand them and maybe verify them that’s what we expect from

verify them that’s what we expect from

verify them that’s what we expect from science projects that’s why we give our

science projects that’s why we give our

science projects that’s why we give our high schools

high schools

high schools students science projects but here’s the

students science projects but here’s the

students science projects but here’s the thing and this is what I want to talk

thing and this is what I want to talk

thing and this is what I want to talk about about these science projects these

about about these science projects these

about about these science projects these science projects are not intended to

science projects are not intended to

science projects are not intended to know let me go back one step I just

know let me go back one step I just

know let me go back one step I just mentioned a few principles of academia

mentioned a few principles of academia

mentioned a few principles of academia of general academic thinking and there’s

of general academic thinking and there’s

of general academic thinking and there’s one that’s actually missing from this

one that’s actually missing from this

one that’s actually missing from this list that I believe and that is academic

list that I believe and that is academic

list that I believe and that is academic freedom academic freedom it’s something

freedom academic freedom it’s something

freedom academic freedom it’s something that I did not mention that it’s very

that I did not mention that it’s very

that I did not mention that it’s very often not mentioned to high school

often not mentioned to high school

often not mentioned to high school students as a principal of science all

students as a principal of science all

students as a principal of science all the other things are but not academic

the other things are but not academic

the other things are but not academic freedom and I believe that’s a very yeah

freedom and I believe that’s a very yeah

freedom and I believe that’s a very yeah not a good thing that’s my message for

not a good thing that’s my message for

not a good thing that’s my message for today

today

today academic freedom to me is the option or

academic freedom to me is the option or

academic freedom to me is the option or the choice that you have as a scientist

the choice that you have as a scientist

the choice that you have as a scientist as a researcher to study your own

as a researcher to study your own

as a researcher to study your own interests to pursue your own interest

interests to pursue your own interest

interests to pursue your own interest and you know in the real world of

and you know in the real world of

and you know in the real world of academia of science that is not an easy

academia of science that is not an easy

academia of science that is not an easy thing it’s not a given thing you can do

thing it’s not a given thing you can do

thing it’s not a given thing you can do that which I’m happy about that it isn’t

that which I’m happy about that it isn’t

that which I’m happy about that it isn’t because you know we need to solve big

because you know we need to solve big

because you know we need to solve big problems and we cannot do that if every

problems and we cannot do that if every

problems and we cannot do that if every scientist just goes pursuing whatever

scientist just goes pursuing whatever

scientist just goes pursuing whatever they want to pursue so we need to you

they want to pursue so we need to you

they want to pursue so we need to you know pull our resources together we need

know pull our resources together we need

know pull our resources together we need to focus our attention in the same

to focus our attention in the same

to focus our attention in the same direction to solve big problems

direction to solve big problems

direction to solve big problems sustainability problems healthcare

sustainability problems healthcare

sustainability problems healthcare problems energy problems etc and but

problems energy problems etc and but

problems energy problems etc and but these big problems are not the type of

these big problems are not the type of

these big problems are not the type of problems that I believe high school

problems that I believe high school

problems that I believe high school students should be working on in their

students should be working on in their

students should be working on in their science projects and I believe that high

science projects and I believe that high

science projects and I believe that high school students should be working on

school students should be working on

school students should be working on much more playful projects should be

much more playful projects should be

much more playful projects should be working in much more playful manner when

working in much more playful manner when

working in much more playful manner when it when it comes to academic thinking

it when it comes to academic thinking

it when it comes to academic thinking academic doing doing science and that’s

academic doing doing science and that’s

academic doing doing science and that’s why I really wanted to talk about

why I really wanted to talk about

why I really wanted to talk about academic playfulness

academic playfulness

academic playfulness for students that is really my message

for students that is really my message

for students that is really my message for today but I’ll give you two examples

for today but I’ll give you two examples

for today but I’ll give you two examples of projects did I find nice examples of

of projects did I find nice examples of

of projects did I find nice examples of academic playfulness and admittedly that

academic playfulness and admittedly that

academic playfulness and admittedly that they’re they’re not high school project

they’re they’re not high school project

they’re they’re not high school project have to admit that our project from my

have to admit that our project from my

have to admit that our project from my own students but as an example they

own students but as an example they

own students but as an example they serve very well

serve very well

serve very well I think and the first one you know to

I think and the first one you know to

I think and the first one you know to explain this you need to understand that

explain this you need to understand that

explain this you need to understand that I always tell my own students and I tell

I always tell my own students and I tell

I always tell my own students and I tell many high school students you know in in

many high school students you know in in

many high school students you know in in the Netherlands I always tell them you

the Netherlands I always tell them you

the Netherlands I always tell them you know if you want to research something

know if you want to research something

know if you want to research something and you don’t know what yeah yet what

and you don’t know what yeah yet what

and you don’t know what yeah yet what then look at your own surroundings look

then look at your own surroundings look

then look at your own surroundings look in your own life look make observations

in your own life look make observations

in your own life look make observations of what happens to you in your daily

of what happens to you in your daily

of what happens to you in your daily life ask questions of what’s going on

life ask questions of what’s going on

life ask questions of what’s going on around you

around you

around you really simple opposition are up survey

really simple opposition are up survey

really simple opposition are up survey shion’s personal inspirations personal

shion’s personal inspirations personal

shion’s personal inspirations personal interests are great starting point for

interests are great starting point for

interests are great starting point for scientific research and having said that

scientific research and having said that

scientific research and having said that to my own students a few years ago one

to my own students a few years ago one

to my own students a few years ago one student walked into my office and his

student walked into my office and his

student walked into my office and his name is Ian from the Eck and he said

name is Ian from the Eck and he said

name is Ian from the Eck and he said Martin yeah I made an observation in my

Martin yeah I made an observation in my

Martin yeah I made an observation in my daily life he said I like to play

daily life he said I like to play

daily life he said I like to play computer games and every few months or

computer games and every few months or

computer games and every few months or so you know I buy a new computer game

so you know I buy a new computer game

so you know I buy a new computer game because the old one is doing boring but

because the old one is doing boring but

because the old one is doing boring but he said I made a second observation and

he said I made a second observation and

he said I made a second observation and that is that I have a cat and I don’t

that is that I have a cat and I don’t

that is that I have a cat and I don’t buy a new cat every few months because

buy a new cat every few months because

buy a new cat every few months because it becomes boring you know so he said

it becomes boring you know so he said

it becomes boring you know so he said that could it be that there’s a quality

that could it be that there’s a quality

that could it be that there’s a quality in the behavior of my cat that is not in

in the behavior of my cat that is not in

in the behavior of my cat that is not in the behavior of the opponents that I

the behavior of the opponents that I

the behavior of the opponents that I fight in the computer games and these

fight in the computer games and these

fight in the computer games and these are computerized opponents algorithmic

are computerized opponents algorithmic

are computerized opponents algorithmic opponents and he said and if so if that

opponents and he said and if so if that

opponents and he said and if so if that is the case could it be that this

is the case could it be that this

is the case could it be that this quality is transferable to a video game

quality is transferable to a video game

quality is transferable to a video game if I do not play it against a

if I do not play it against a

if I do not play it against a computerized opponent but against my cat

computerized opponent but against my cat

computerized opponent but against my cat or any other animal that’s the question

or any other animal that’s the question

or any other animal that’s the question he came in with I think that’s a really

he came in with I think that’s a really

he came in with I think that’s a really nice question to start doing research so

nice question to start doing research so

nice question to start doing research so we talked about it and we both concluded

we talked about it and we both concluded

we talked about it and we both concluded cats are horrible to use in science

cats are horrible to use in science

cats are horrible to use in science they’re unpredictable and too big too

they’re unpredictable and too big too

they’re unpredictable and too big too expensive people love them too much so

expensive people love them too much so

expensive people love them too much so we decided to settle with a different

we decided to settle with a different

we decided to settle with a different type of animal and insect namely

type of animal and insect namely

type of animal and insect namely crickets and them devised by himself

crickets and them devised by himself

crickets and them devised by himself this experiment that I kind of like and

this experiment that I kind of like and

this experiment that I kind of like and I want to tell you about and it revolves

I want to tell you about and it revolves

I want to tell you about and it revolves around a game known as pac-man you

around a game known as pac-man you

around a game known as pac-man you probably know it it’s a maze game and in

probably know it it’s a maze game and in

probably know it it’s a maze game and in the wind built a small version of

the wind built a small version of

the wind built a small version of pac-man and in this version of pac-man

pac-man and in this version of pac-man

pac-man and in this version of pac-man the four ghosts in keep inky blinky and

the four ghosts in keep inky blinky and

the four ghosts in keep inky blinky and Clyde we’re not controlled

Clyde we’re not controlled

Clyde we’re not controlled algorithmically by you know a computer

algorithmically by you know a computer

algorithmically by you know a computer algorithm some computer code no no they

algorithm some computer code no no they

algorithm some computer code no no they were controlled by crickets real living

were controlled by crickets real living

were controlled by crickets real living crickets and his crickets did not only

crickets and his crickets did not only

crickets and his crickets did not only live they lived inside a facsimile maze

live they lived inside a facsimile maze

live they lived inside a facsimile maze of the one in the game that LEM had

of the one in the game that LEM had

of the one in the game that LEM had built out of scrap bits of wood and the

built out of scrap bits of wood and the

built out of scrap bits of wood and the crickets would live in there walk around

crickets would live in there walk around

crickets would live in there walk around and they were monitored by webcam and

and they were monitored by webcam and

and they were monitored by webcam and their positions were tracked and used as

their positions were tracked and used as

their positions were tracked and used as positions for

positions for

positions for ghosts in the game as such wim could

ghosts in the game as such wim could

ghosts in the game as such wim could play pac-man against crickets and he

play pac-man against crickets and he

play pac-man against crickets and he used this setup it was technically maybe

used this setup it was technically maybe

used this setup it was technically maybe slightly more difficult but not much and

slightly more difficult but not much and

slightly more difficult but not much and as such he could study the question that

as such he could study the question that

as such he could study the question that he set out to study and in that sense

he set out to study and in that sense

he set out to study and in that sense you know the project could have been

you know the project could have been

you know the project could have been better in terms of research could have

better in terms of research could have

better in terms of research could have definitely been improved however what I

definitely been improved however what I

definitely been improved however what I really like about it is that it is a

really like about it is that it is a

really like about it is that it is a nice research that came from the

nice research that came from the

nice research that came from the personal inspiration of a student and

personal inspiration of a student and

personal inspiration of a student and that really engaged that student in

that really engaged that student in

that really engaged that student in scientific reefer research even so much

scientific reefer research even so much

scientific reefer research even so much so that years after this project wim

so that years after this project wim

so that years after this project wim decided to do a PhD on animal

decided to do a PhD on animal

decided to do a PhD on animal incorporated computer games that he’s

incorporated computer games that he’s

incorporated computer games that he’s actually he’s working on his PhD in this

actually he’s working on his PhD in this

actually he’s working on his PhD in this field right now this is how engaged he

field right now this is how engaged he

field right now this is how engaged he got into science and that should be the

got into science and that should be the

got into science and that should be the point of science projects in education

point of science projects in education

point of science projects in education that should be the point of science of

that should be the point of science of

that should be the point of science of projects in education let me tell you

projects in education let me tell you

projects in education let me tell you about a second project another student

about a second project another student

about a second project another student his name is Venus both he came to him

his name is Venus both he came to him

his name is Venus both he came to him into my office he said Martin I have an

into my office he said Martin I have an

into my office he said Martin I have an ID you know these huge flocks of birds

ID you know these huge flocks of birds

ID you know these huge flocks of birds that fly around in the sky it’s really

that fly around in the sky it’s really

that fly around in the sky it’s really beautiful

beautiful

beautiful I guess you know what I’m talking about

I guess you know what I’m talking about

I guess you know what I’m talking about he said I want to control him I want to

he said I want to control him I want to

he said I want to control him I want to fly my drone into these flocks of birds

fly my drone into these flocks of birds

fly my drone into these flocks of birds and want to take control over the whole

and want to take control over the whole

and want to take control over the whole flock I want to I want to be able to

flock I want to I want to be able to

flock I want to I want to be able to steer that flock where I want them to go

steer that flock where I want them to go

steer that flock where I want them to go well that is quite an ambition quite an

well that is quite an ambition quite an

well that is quite an ambition quite an ambitious project and we soon decide

ambitious project and we soon decide

ambitious project and we soon decide that that is very difficult because you

that that is very difficult because you

that that is very difficult because you have no idea how to construct these

have no idea how to construct these

have no idea how to construct these flocks of birds or even if you don’t

flocks of birds or even if you don’t

flocks of birds or even if you don’t want to construct them you have nobody

want to construct them you have nobody

want to construct them you have nobody were to find them or when to find him so

were to find them or when to find him so

were to find them or when to find him so let alone be there with your drone and

let alone be there with your drone and

let alone be there with your drone and then hope that you can control them so

then hope that you can control them so

then hope that you can control them so we immediately saw you know that’s a bit

we immediately saw you know that’s a bit

we immediately saw you know that’s a bit of a difficult project but don’t me as

of a difficult project but don’t me as

of a difficult project but don’t me as an educator I am an educator I told him

an educator I am an educator I told him

an educator I am an educator I told him let’s let let’s work on this idea let’s

let’s let let’s work on this idea let’s

let’s let let’s work on this idea let’s talk about it so we talked about it and

talk about it so we talked about it and

talk about it so we talked about it and we concluded that his actual interest

we concluded that his actual interest

we concluded that his actual interest was really in the interaction between

was really in the interaction between

was really in the interaction between drones and birds that had his

drones and birds that had his

drones and birds that had his fascination that is what he really

fascination that is what he really

fascination that is what he really wanted to know that it was underlying

wanted to know that it was underlying

wanted to know that it was underlying his first project proposal so now we

his first project proposal so now we

his first project proposal so now we said well let’s study that it so that’s

said well let’s study that it so that’s

said well let’s study that it so that’s what Venus did and he did it in this but

what Venus did and he did it in this but

what Venus did and he did it in this but I find a very nice way he what he did is

I find a very nice way he what he did is

I find a very nice way he what he did is for last summer for several weeks and

for last summer for several weeks and

for last summer for several weeks and I’m talking four or five weeks he got up

I’m talking four or five weeks he got up

I’m talking four or five weeks he got up every morning between

every morning between

every morning between six and went to the local park near his

six and went to the local park near his

six and went to the local park near his house and he would feed the birds there

house and he would feed the birds there

house and he would feed the birds there just put some birdseed around and some

just put some birdseed around and some

just put some birdseed around and some mealworms and you can actually oh sorry

mealworms and you can actually oh sorry

mealworms and you can actually oh sorry wrong button you can actually see them

wrong button you can actually see them

wrong button you can actually see them here there in the middle the worms and

here there in the middle the worms and

here there in the middle the worms and the birdseed it was a very low-cost

the birdseed it was a very low-cost

the birdseed it was a very low-cost experiment it had a small camera a

experiment it had a small camera a

experiment it had a small camera a smartphone and an off-the-shelf drone

smartphone and an off-the-shelf drone

smartphone and an off-the-shelf drone that he already owned and a weight scale

that he already owned and a weight scale

that he already owned and a weight scale to measure the weight of the worms and

to measure the weight of the worms and

to measure the weight of the worms and to see how much were eaten by the birds

to see how much were eaten by the birds

to see how much were eaten by the birds from the container he would basically

from the container he would basically

from the container he would basically feed the birds what he did he put the

feed the birds what he did he put the

feed the birds what he did he put the camera right next to the food and it

camera right next to the food and it

camera right next to the food and it would observe birds eating his birdseed

would observe birds eating his birdseed

would observe birds eating his birdseed and his mealworms penis himself would be

and his mealworms penis himself would be

and his mealworms penis himself would be sitting away a hundred metres ready with

sitting away a hundred metres ready with

sitting away a hundred metres ready with his drone and every time he could

his drone and every time he could

his drone and every time he could actually see the birds he could see the

actually see the birds he could see the

actually see the birds he could see the camera feed so every time he saw a bird

camera feed so every time he saw a bird

camera feed so every time he saw a bird entering the feeding zone he would

entering the feeding zone he would

entering the feeding zone he would conceptually throw a dice he would make

conceptually throw a dice he would make

conceptually throw a dice he would make a random decision then and this random

a random decision then and this random

a random decision then and this random decision has three possible outcomes one

decision has three possible outcomes one

decision has three possible outcomes one he wouldn’t do anything that was the

he wouldn’t do anything that was the

he wouldn’t do anything that was the first option the second option was his

first option the second option was his

first option the second option was his drone would take off and it would fly

drone would take off and it would fly

drone would take off and it would fly 100 meters straight towards the bird

100 meters straight towards the bird

100 meters straight towards the bird basically attacking it and once it

basically attacking it and once it

basically attacking it and once it reached a birdie would loop fly back and

reached a birdie would loop fly back and

reached a birdie would loop fly back and land that was the second option or the

land that was the second option or the

land that was the second option or the third option was when a bird landed the

third option was when a bird landed the

third option was when a bird landed the drone would take off and he would fly in

drone would take off and he would fly in

drone would take off and he would fly in a straight line not after bird but past

a straight line not after bird but past

a straight line not after bird but past it that’s a sort of fly by maneuver and

it that’s a sort of fly by maneuver and

it that’s a sort of fly by maneuver and then it would return and all the time

then it would return and all the time

then it would return and all the time Adina’s was filming the location of the

Adina’s was filming the location of the

Adina’s was filming the location of the food where the food was where where the

food where the food was where where the

food where the food was where where the birds were and every day after he got

birds were and every day after he got

birds were and every day after he got back from two hours in the morning

back from two hours in the morning

back from two hours in the morning spending in the park he would analyze

spending in the park he would analyze

spending in the park he would analyze his footage very meticulously frame by

his footage very meticulously frame by

his footage very meticulously frame by frame and he would note on the exact

frame and he would note on the exact

frame and he would note on the exact frame numbers when a bird appeared in

frame numbers when a bird appeared in

frame numbers when a bird appeared in the shot when it left and he knew what

the shot when it left and he knew what

the shot when it left and he knew what type of birds they were he also knew

type of birds they were he also knew

type of birds they were he also knew what the condition was was there no

what the condition was was there no

what the condition was was there no drone was there an attacking drone or a

drone was there an attacking drone or a

drone was there an attacking drone or a fly by drone and by noting all this data

fly by drone and by noting all this data

fly by drone and by noting all this data and correlating bird species to the time

and correlating bird species to the time

and correlating bird species to the time that they spent feeding to the condition

that they spent feeding to the condition

that they spent feeding to the condition under which to drugs flew he could

under which to drugs flew he could

under which to drugs flew he could actually make he could actually discover

actually make he could actually discover

actually make he could actually discover how different species of birds react

how different species of birds react

how different species of birds react differently to drones which is very

differently to drones which is very

differently to drones which is very important it’s it’s a topic it was on a

important it’s it’s a topic it was on a

important it’s it’s a topic it was on a radio recently that one of the city

radio recently that one of the city

radio recently that one of the city councils in Holland wants to use drones

councils in Holland wants to use drones

councils in Holland wants to use drones to detect marijuana illegal marijuana

to detect marijuana illegal marijuana

to detect marijuana illegal marijuana growth and the people are saying we

growth and the people are saying we

growth and the people are saying we can’t do that because we do not know how

can’t do that because we do not know how

can’t do that because we do not know how birds react well thanks to a single

birds react well thanks to a single

birds react well thanks to a single student with a radically absurd ID we do

student with a radically absurd ID we do

student with a radically absurd ID we do now we’re currently writing a journal

now we’re currently writing a journal

now we’re currently writing a journal article for a biological journal Venus

article for a biological journal Venus

article for a biological journal Venus me and someone from the biology

me and someone from the biology

me and someone from the biology department based on his data why am I

department based on his data why am I

department based on his data why am I telling you this I’m telling you this

telling you this I’m telling you this

telling you this I’m telling you this because you know I told you

because you know I told you

because you know I told you academic playfulness is such an

academic playfulness is such an

academic playfulness is such an important thing to engage students in

important thing to engage students in

important thing to engage students in the process of science at a young age

the process of science at a young age

the process of science at a young age preferably at the high school level that

preferably at the high school level that

preferably at the high school level that is the perfect time maybe you’re

is the perfect time maybe you’re

is the perfect time maybe you’re thinking yeah Martin okay so we agree

thinking yeah Martin okay so we agree

thinking yeah Martin okay so we agree that’s it well let me surprise you

that’s it well let me surprise you

that’s it well let me surprise you that’s not really the point I’m making

that’s not really the point I’m making

that’s not really the point I’m making what a point I’m I want to make is that

what a point I’m I want to make is that

what a point I’m I want to make is that academic playfulness should be made more

academic playfulness should be made more

academic playfulness should be made more explicit in high school education at

explicit in high school education at

explicit in high school education at least as I see it around me in science

least as I see it around me in science

least as I see it around me in science projects students should be told that

projects students should be told that

projects students should be told that they can study whatever it is that they

they can study whatever it is that they

they can study whatever it is that they want to study there should be told that

want to study there should be told that

want to study there should be told that they should be told that the topics that

they should be told that the topics that

they should be told that the topics that they select can be from their personal

they select can be from their personal

they select can be from their personal inspiration or personal fascination be

inspiration or personal fascination be

inspiration or personal fascination be it I don’t know hardrock be it hockey

it I don’t know hardrock be it hockey

it I don’t know hardrock be it hockey whatever they can study whatever they

whatever they can study whatever they

whatever they can study whatever they want that really is my message and by

want that really is my message and by

want that really is my message and by doing that by engaging young people in

doing that by engaging young people in

doing that by engaging young people in the process of science and acting

the process of science and acting

the process of science and acting scientifically we basically put forth a

scientifically we basically put forth a

scientifically we basically put forth a stronger generation of future scientists

stronger generation of future scientists

stronger generation of future scientists that we really need to solve big world

that we really need to solve big world

that we really need to solve big world problems

problems

problems [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] you

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