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A Thought Box for the Thinking Indian | H R Venkatesh | TEDxEicherSchool


and i’m at the founder editor of

and i’m at the founder editor of metadata metadata is an independent and

metadata metadata is an independent and

metadata metadata is an independent and nonpartisan of service a new service

nonpartisan of service a new service

nonpartisan of service a new service that is focusing on indian politics and

that is focusing on indian politics and

that is focusing on indian politics and policy and i think of metadata is

policy and i think of metadata is

policy and i think of metadata is addressing one of three problems right

addressing one of three problems right

addressing one of three problems right now we’re focusing on what politicians

now we’re focusing on what politicians

now we’re focusing on what politicians do because a lot of the media is

do because a lot of the media is

do because a lot of the media is focusing always on what politicians say

focusing always on what politicians say

focusing always on what politicians say and the subject of today’s conversation

and the subject of today’s conversation

and the subject of today’s conversation is a thought box and this addresses a

is a thought box and this addresses a

is a thought box and this addresses a second problem that nate errata is

second problem that nate errata is

second problem that nate errata is trying to solve which is that there

trying to solve which is that there

trying to solve which is that there aren’t enough safe spaces so indians in

aren’t enough safe spaces so indians in

aren’t enough safe spaces so indians in the public sphere for having saved

the public sphere for having saved

the public sphere for having saved conversations about some of the most

conversations about some of the most

conversations about some of the most contentious issues and the third problem

contentious issues and the third problem

contentious issues and the third problem that we are addressing with anita data

that we are addressing with anita data

that we are addressing with anita data is that is the media itself it has a

is that is the media itself it has a

is that is the media itself it has a crisis of credibility and there’s an

crisis of credibility and there’s an

crisis of credibility and there’s an absence of transparency so what’s the

absence of transparency so what’s the

absence of transparency so what’s the thought box for the thinking indian it’s

thought box for the thinking indian it’s

thought box for the thinking indian it’s like a box of tools a tool box and

like a box of tools a tool box and

like a box of tools a tool box and similarly a thought box is a box of

similarly a thought box is a box of

similarly a thought box is a box of thoughts or some principles that I

thoughts or some principles that I

thoughts or some principles that I believe that we need to address some of

believe that we need to address some of

believe that we need to address some of the most contentious issues in our

the most contentious issues in our

the most contentious issues in our politics I’ll get to that in a moment

politics I’ll get to that in a moment

politics I’ll get to that in a moment but first I’m going to tell you a small

but first I’m going to tell you a small

but first I’m going to tell you a small story as it happens this is a story of

story as it happens this is a story of

story as it happens this is a story of my own impulsive pneus and it’s a story

my own impulsive pneus and it’s a story

my own impulsive pneus and it’s a story of my own impulsive pneus on social

of my own impulsive pneus on social

of my own impulsive pneus on social media on 29th of sep tember i wrote a

media on 29th of sep tember i wrote a

media on 29th of sep tember i wrote a facebook post and this is what i wrote i

facebook post and this is what i wrote i

facebook post and this is what i wrote i said well done india it reminds me this

said well done india it reminds me this

said well done india it reminds me this reminds me that I to need a surgical

reminds me that I to need a surgical

reminds me that I to need a surgical strike against the tone cartilage in my

strike against the tone cartilage in my

strike against the tone cartilage in my left knee which has been carrying out

left knee which has been carrying out

left knee which has been carrying out proxy warfare in my body for the last

proxy warfare in my body for the last

proxy warfare in my body for the last ten years I repeat it’s kind of a long

ten years I repeat it’s kind of a long

ten years I repeat it’s kind of a long ish status update I said well done India

ish status update I said well done India

ish status update I said well done India this reminds me that I do need a

this reminds me that I do need a

this reminds me that I do need a surgical strike against the tone

surgical strike against the tone

surgical strike against the tone cartilage in my left knee that has been

cartilage in my left knee that has been

cartilage in my left knee that has been conducting proxy warfare on my body for

conducting proxy warfare on my body for

conducting proxy warfare on my body for the last ten years now when i wrote this

the last ten years now when i wrote this

the last ten years now when i wrote this update people didn’t really know how to

update people didn’t really know how to

update people didn’t really know how to react you know i have many friends on

react you know i have many friends on

react you know i have many friends on facebook some of them put likes or place

facebook some of them put likes or place

facebook some of them put likes or place likes click on the like button some

likes click on the like button some

likes click on the like button some people commented a few friends of mine

people commented a few friends of mine

people commented a few friends of mine were very angry one friend in particular

were very angry one friend in particular

were very angry one friend in particular was very very angry and she thought I

was very very angry and she thought I

was very very angry and she thought I was making fun of the Indian Armed

was making fun of the Indian Armed

was making fun of the Indian Armed Forces and another friend of mine

Forces and another friend of mine

Forces and another friend of mine thought that I was being sarcastic and

thought that I was being sarcastic and

thought that I was being sarcastic and that I was actually standing up for all

that I was actually standing up for all

that I was actually standing up for all the talk of war mongering that we’d been

the talk of war mongering that we’d been

the talk of war mongering that we’d been hearing in that month and just to

hearing in that month and just to

hearing in that month and just to refresh our memories a few days earlier

refresh our memories a few days earlier

refresh our memories a few days earlier the Indian Army had announced that they

the Indian Army had announced that they

the Indian Army had announced that they carried out a surgical strike across the

carried out a surgical strike across the

carried out a surgical strike across the line of control in retaliation for the

line of control in retaliation for the

line of control in retaliation for the deaths of 18 indian army personnel a few

deaths of 18 indian army personnel a few

deaths of 18 indian army personnel a few days earlier so these were very few

days earlier so these were very few

days earlier so these were very few times and i wrote that facebook post and

times and i wrote that facebook post and

times and i wrote that facebook post and the truth is I was neither trying to

the truth is I was neither trying to

the truth is I was neither trying to make fun of anybody I wasn’t I was very

make fun of anybody I wasn’t I was very

make fun of anybody I wasn’t I was very proud of the Indian Army and I still AM

proud of the Indian Army and I still AM

proud of the Indian Army and I still AM and I was also not trying to be

and I was also not trying to be

and I was also not trying to be sarcastic it just simply occurred to me

sarcastic it just simply occurred to me

sarcastic it just simply occurred to me that having myself suffered from a knee

that having myself suffered from a knee

that having myself suffered from a knee condition for about 10 years and an

condition for about 10 years and an

condition for about 10 years and an orthopedic surgeon 10 years ago at asked

orthopedic surgeon 10 years ago at asked

orthopedic surgeon 10 years ago at asked me to undergo surgery and it was an

me to undergo surgery and it was an

me to undergo surgery and it was an option that I felt not comfortable in

option that I felt not comfortable in

option that I felt not comfortable in choosing and therefore I thought you

choosing and therefore I thought you

choosing and therefore I thought you know well the knees conducting proxy

know well the knees conducting proxy

know well the knees conducting proxy warfare on my body maybe it’s funny

warfare on my body maybe it’s funny

warfare on my body maybe it’s funny maybe I should put it off maybe I should

maybe I should put it off maybe I should

maybe I should put it off maybe I should put it up on facebook people will think

put it up on facebook people will think

put it up on facebook people will think it’s funny and of course it was anything

it’s funny and of course it was anything

it’s funny and of course it was anything but it ended up hurting a lot of people

but it ended up hurting a lot of people

but it ended up hurting a lot of people because my question is why am i bringing

because my question is why am i bringing

because my question is why am i bringing this up right now the fact of the matter

this up right now the fact of the matter

this up right now the fact of the matter is at any given point of time there are

is at any given point of time there are

is at any given point of time there are a number of status updates on social

a number of status updates on social

a number of status updates on social media there’s a lot of chatter on

media there’s a lot of chatter on

media there’s a lot of chatter on Twitter there’s a lot of chatter on

Twitter there’s a lot of chatter on

Twitter there’s a lot of chatter on whatsapp groups outside or offline as

whatsapp groups outside or offline as

whatsapp groups outside or offline as well in dinner party conversations in

well in dinner party conversations in

well in dinner party conversations in conversations with friends when we have

conversations with friends when we have

conversations with friends when we have conversations at work there are heated

conversations at work there are heated

conversations at work there are heated conversations about the challenges of

conversations about the challenges of

conversations about the challenges of our times and a lot of the contentious

our times and a lot of the contentious

our times and a lot of the contentious issues that we face as a nation II and

issues that we face as a nation II and

issues that we face as a nation II and the truth of the matter is we live in

the truth of the matter is we live in

the truth of the matter is we live in polarized times and what I mean by this

polarized times and what I mean by this

polarized times and what I mean by this is very simply pretty much anything we

is very simply pretty much anything we

is very simply pretty much anything we say or do sometimes it subscribe to

say or do sometimes it subscribe to

say or do sometimes it subscribe to either one of do polls if we say

either one of do polls if we say

either one of do polls if we say something we seen as either leftist

something we seen as either leftist

something we seen as either leftist sometimes you seen as rightist sometimes

sometimes you seen as rightist sometimes

sometimes you seen as rightist sometimes our people ballers secular sometimes

our people ballers secular sometimes

our people ballers secular sometimes they say communal if you say something

they say communal if you say something

they say communal if you say something against the government we call

against the government we call

against the government we call Andy national if we say something for

Andy national if we say something for

Andy national if we say something for the government we have a lot of chatter

the government we have a lot of chatter

the government we have a lot of chatter and people calling us you know words

and people calling us you know words

and people calling us you know words like butts so the fact of the matter is

like butts so the fact of the matter is

like butts so the fact of the matter is this is not an atmosphere in which we

this is not an atmosphere in which we

this is not an atmosphere in which we can actually have a sustained and

can actually have a sustained and

can actually have a sustained and reasonable dialogue and as a political

reasonable dialogue and as a political

reasonable dialogue and as a political journalist it is that that obsesses me a

journalist it is that that obsesses me a

journalist it is that that obsesses me a lot the need to have the reasonable

lot the need to have the reasonable

lot the need to have the reasonable dialogue what are the conditions under

dialogue what are the conditions under

dialogue what are the conditions under which we can have reasonable dialogue

which we can have reasonable dialogue

which we can have reasonable dialogue these are questions that I obsess over

these are questions that I obsess over

these are questions that I obsess over and I believe that there is a way

and I believe that there is a way

and I believe that there is a way forward and the way forward is to have

forward and the way forward is to have

forward and the way forward is to have you know an atmosphere good will the

you know an atmosphere good will the

you know an atmosphere good will the best way to have good dialogue is good

best way to have good dialogue is good

best way to have good dialogue is good will the thing is because of a complex

will the thing is because of a complex

will the thing is because of a complex mix of historical sociological and

mix of historical sociological and

mix of historical sociological and cultural and political factors that kind

cultural and political factors that kind

cultural and political factors that kind of atmosphere of goodwill is simply not

of atmosphere of goodwill is simply not

of atmosphere of goodwill is simply not available and it’s not there for us and

available and it’s not there for us and

available and it’s not there for us and therefore we have to discuss some of the

therefore we have to discuss some of the

therefore we have to discuss some of the most contentious issues using other

most contentious issues using other

most contentious issues using other tactics and this is where I come to the

tactics and this is where I come to the

tactics and this is where I come to the idea of a top box a top box which i

idea of a top box a top box which i

idea of a top box a top box which i believe is a new language for our times

believe is a new language for our times

believe is a new language for our times and some new principles or guidelines

and some new principles or guidelines

and some new principles or guidelines when it comes to addressing some of the

when it comes to addressing some of the

when it comes to addressing some of the most contentious issues at this point in

most contentious issues at this point in

most contentious issues at this point in time you might be wondering well all

time you might be wondering well all

time you might be wondering well all this is very well this is for

this is very well this is for

this is very well this is for journalists this is for people like

journalists this is for people like

journalists this is for people like politicians who people are people who

politicians who people are people who

politicians who people are people who were in the public sphere why does it

were in the public sphere why does it

were in the public sphere why does it appear applied to me after all an odd

appear applied to me after all an odd

appear applied to me after all an odd working person I go to school or go to

working person I go to school or go to

working person I go to school or go to office I come back I do my I carry out

office I come back I do my I carry out

office I come back I do my I carry out my other duties relax in the evening

my other duties relax in the evening

my other duties relax in the evening with loved ones or by myself why should

with loved ones or by myself why should

with loved ones or by myself why should I worry about all of this and to that my

I worry about all of this and to that my

I worry about all of this and to that my answer would be well we live in an age

answer would be well we live in an age

answer would be well we live in an age which is fueled by technology social

which is fueled by technology social

which is fueled by technology social media is not far off maybe just a click

media is not far off maybe just a click

media is not far off maybe just a click away from making our own opinions known

away from making our own opinions known

away from making our own opinions known to the entire world in such a scenario

to the entire world in such a scenario

to the entire world in such a scenario we all become public figures and even if

we all become public figures and even if

we all become public figures and even if you are not the kind of people who like

you are not the kind of people who like

you are not the kind of people who like social media or call online very much be

social media or call online very much be

social media or call online very much be surely know people who are on social

surely know people who are on social

surely know people who are on social media and we’re also just a click away

media and we’re also just a click away

media and we’re also just a click away from

from

from in public personalities and yet another

in public personalities and yet another

in public personalities and yet another thought along these lines is you know

thought along these lines is you know

thought along these lines is you know someday there might be a cause that you

someday there might be a cause that you

someday there might be a cause that you deeply care about that we will need you

deeply care about that we will need you

deeply care about that we will need you to stand up and fight for instance

to stand up and fight for instance

to stand up and fight for instance people in the national capital region

people in the national capital region

people in the national capital region they have to deal with evolution which

they have to deal with evolution which

they have to deal with evolution which is a big problem right now it is perhaps

is a big problem right now it is perhaps

is a big problem right now it is perhaps something they did not think about five

something they did not think about five

something they did not think about five years ago and what happens is people end

years ago and what happens is people end

years ago and what happens is people end up becoming activists they ask

up becoming activists they ask

up becoming activists they ask government of questions people who

government of questions people who

government of questions people who didn’t think of them as activists of

didn’t think of them as activists of

didn’t think of them as activists of political political personalities end up

political political personalities end up

political political personalities end up taking political positions and for such

taking political positions and for such

taking political positions and for such a scenario we need a thought foss like

a scenario we need a thought foss like

a scenario we need a thought foss like I’m talking about well so far I’ve only

I’m talking about well so far I’ve only

I’m talking about well so far I’ve only my story about my status update told you

my story about my status update told you

my story about my status update told you how it backfired I’ve spoken about the

how it backfired I’ve spoken about the

how it backfired I’ve spoken about the need for reasonable dialogue I’ve spoken

need for reasonable dialogue I’ve spoken

need for reasonable dialogue I’ve spoken about the need for a new thought box a

about the need for a new thought box a

about the need for a new thought box a set of guiding principles but before I

set of guiding principles but before I

set of guiding principles but before I get to that there’s one thing that

get to that there’s one thing that

get to that there’s one thing that remains to be said which is a word on

remains to be said which is a word on

remains to be said which is a word on free speech what is free speech we all

free speech what is free speech we all

free speech what is free speech we all know this it’s basically a person’s

know this it’s basically a person’s

know this it’s basically a person’s right to say whatever they think or feel

right to say whatever they think or feel

right to say whatever they think or feel or publish whatever they think or feel

or publish whatever they think or feel

or publish whatever they think or feel without government sanction without

without government sanction without

without government sanction without censorship and without social or

censorship and without social or

censorship and without social or societal sanction and there are very

societal sanction and there are very

societal sanction and there are very good reasons as to why we need free

good reasons as to why we need free

good reasons as to why we need free speech in our society there are four

speech in our society there are four

speech in our society there are four reasons that I can take off right now

reasons that I can take off right now

reasons that I can take off right now the first is progress without the Frank

the first is progress without the Frank

the first is progress without the Frank and fearless exchange of ideas we cannot

and fearless exchange of ideas we cannot

and fearless exchange of ideas we cannot contest existing ideas without

contest existing ideas without

contest existing ideas without contesting existing ideas we cannot have

contesting existing ideas we cannot have

contesting existing ideas we cannot have progress and I’ll give you a few

progress and I’ll give you a few

progress and I’ll give you a few examples think about the theory that the

examples think about the theory that the

examples think about the theory that the earth moves around the Sun or revolves

earth moves around the Sun or revolves

earth moves around the Sun or revolves around the Sun the theory of natural

around the Sun the theory of natural

around the Sun the theory of natural selection or Darwinian survival of the

selection or Darwinian survival of the

selection or Darwinian survival of the fittest the theory of women being equal

fittest the theory of women being equal

fittest the theory of women being equal to men the theory of all races being

to men the theory of all races being

to men the theory of all races being equal the theory of all costs being

equal the theory of all costs being

equal the theory of all costs being equal these are all theories which five

equal these are all theories which five

equal these are all theories which five years ago 10 years ago 50 100 500 years

years ago 10 years ago 50 100 500 years

years ago 10 years ago 50 100 500 years ago if you had these theories and you

ago if you had these theories and you

ago if you had these theories and you average them or you spoke about them it

average them or you spoke about them it

average them or you spoke about them it could put you in real danger it would

could put you in real danger it would

could put you in real danger it would even give you a sentence for death but

even give you a sentence for death but

even give you a sentence for death but somehow we as a society and we as a race

somehow we as a society and we as a race

somehow we as a society and we as a race they’ve come across and we fought

they’ve come across and we fought

they’ve come across and we fought through

through

through and because of the ability of the

and because of the ability of the

and because of the ability of the expression in free speech we managed to

expression in free speech we managed to

expression in free speech we managed to contest old ideas and we’ve had

contest old ideas and we’ve had

contest old ideas and we’ve had progressed a couple of other reasons why

progressed a couple of other reasons why

progressed a couple of other reasons why we need free speech one is if you don’t

we need free speech one is if you don’t

we need free speech one is if you don’t have these free speech you end up

have these free speech you end up

have these free speech you end up self-censoring and you end up thought

self-censoring and you end up thought

self-censoring and you end up thought censoring what I mean by this is if some

censoring what I mean by this is if some

censoring what I mean by this is if some sense you’re on social media and you say

sense you’re on social media and you say

sense you’re on social media and you say something and somebody doesn’t like what

something and somebody doesn’t like what

something and somebody doesn’t like what you said and 100 people start up using

you said and 100 people start up using

you said and 100 people start up using you and you go offline and then you

you and you go offline and then you

you and you go offline and then you start getting dreads the whole deal is

start getting dreads the whole deal is

start getting dreads the whole deal is you end up not expressing yourself in

you end up not expressing yourself in

you end up not expressing yourself in the future and sometimes you end up not

the future and sometimes you end up not

the future and sometimes you end up not thinking about the idea that made you

thinking about the idea that made you

thinking about the idea that made you want to express them either and that is

want to express them either and that is

want to express them either and that is thought censorship and just one more

thought censorship and just one more

thought censorship and just one more reason for why we need free speech it’s

reason for why we need free speech it’s

reason for why we need free speech it’s the best defense against poor government

the best defense against poor government

the best defense against poor government if you don’t like what the government is

if you don’t like what the government is

if you don’t like what the government is going whether it’s the local government

going whether it’s the local government

going whether it’s the local government the state government the central

the state government the central

the state government the central government you have the right to

government you have the right to

government you have the right to question the government’s decisions and

question the government’s decisions and

question the government’s decisions and so these are reasons why we need free

so these are reasons why we need free

so these are reasons why we need free speech and because we have free speech

speech and because we have free speech

speech and because we have free speech more or less in our country and now come

more or less in our country and now come

more or less in our country and now come to what I wanted to discuss the six

to what I wanted to discuss the six

to what I wanted to discuss the six principles or the thought box that we

principles or the thought box that we

principles or the thought box that we need to focus to address of the biggest

need to focus to address of the biggest

need to focus to address of the biggest challenges first I would say we must

challenges first I would say we must

challenges first I would say we must accept and learn that everybody has a

accept and learn that everybody has a

accept and learn that everybody has a valid point of view and that we should

valid point of view and that we should

valid point of view and that we should take everybody seriously a quick example

take everybody seriously a quick example

take everybody seriously a quick example the American elections the Democratic

the American elections the Democratic

the American elections the Democratic Party had they listened to the

Party had they listened to the

Party had they listened to the supporters of Donald Trump and had they

supporters of Donald Trump and had they

supporters of Donald Trump and had they not dismissed them as racists or

not dismissed them as racists or

not dismissed them as racists or missiles misogynists you know they might

missiles misogynists you know they might

missiles misogynists you know they might have won the second we have to accept

have won the second we have to accept

have won the second we have to accept that we have our own biases and even the

that we have our own biases and even the

that we have our own biases and even the most unbiased of us is judgmental a

most unbiased of us is judgmental a

most unbiased of us is judgmental a quick example again I’m a journalist I’m

quick example again I’m a journalist I’m

quick example again I’m a journalist I’m interviewing someone I’d be given 20

interviewing someone I’d be given 20

interviewing someone I’d be given 20 minutes suddenly I’m told I just have

minutes suddenly I’m told I just have

minutes suddenly I’m told I just have five minutes I have 20 questions I have

five minutes I have 20 questions I have

five minutes I have 20 questions I have to cut that out and just got time to ask

to cut that out and just got time to ask

to cut that out and just got time to ask five questions which questions do they

five questions which questions do they

five questions which questions do they do i do i do i include which questions

do i do i do i include which questions

do i do i do i include which questions do I leave out that is an editorial

do I leave out that is an editorial

do I leave out that is an editorial choice and even if I’m non-judgmental

choice and even if I’m non-judgmental

choice and even if I’m non-judgmental I’m bringing my own biases into this and

I’m bringing my own biases into this and

I’m bringing my own biases into this and number three we must resist the urge to

number three we must resist the urge to

number three we must resist the urge to label others through language and

label others through language and

label others through language and through labels and jargon that makes us

through labels and jargon that makes us

through labels and jargon that makes us blind for instance calling somebody

blind for instance calling somebody

blind for instance calling somebody conservative calling

conservative calling

conservative calling somebody or fastest calling somebody you

somebody or fastest calling somebody you

somebody or fastest calling somebody you know there are other more rude names

know there are other more rude names

know there are other more rude names what happens is when you do that there

what happens is when you do that there

what happens is when you do that there isn’t enough space the sufficient

isn’t enough space the sufficient

isn’t enough space the sufficient dialogue the fourth set of guidelines in

dialogue the fourth set of guidelines in

dialogue the fourth set of guidelines in this thought box I would say is we must

this thought box I would say is we must

this thought box I would say is we must all remember that having an opinion all

all remember that having an opinion all

all remember that having an opinion all the time about everything is not always

the time about everything is not always

the time about everything is not always desirable and opinion is a thought stop

desirable and opinion is a thought stop

desirable and opinion is a thought stop that’s what a professor of mine once

that’s what a professor of mine once

that’s what a professor of mine once told me and I realized it’s true when we

told me and I realized it’s true when we

told me and I realized it’s true when we have an opinion about something it also

have an opinion about something it also

have an opinion about something it also means we’ve stopped engaging about that

means we’ve stopped engaging about that

means we’ve stopped engaging about that particular idea and finally last couple

particular idea and finally last couple

particular idea and finally last couple of sorts in this short box it’s

of sorts in this short box it’s

of sorts in this short box it’s perfectly fine to attack ideas but we

perfectly fine to attack ideas but we

perfectly fine to attack ideas but we must always remember that we must not

must always remember that we must not

must always remember that we must not attack the person holding those ideas

attack the person holding those ideas

attack the person holding those ideas and this is an important distinction

and this is an important distinction

and this is an important distinction that we must all learn to make and most

that we must all learn to make and most

that we must all learn to make and most important of all the sixth guideline

important of all the sixth guideline

important of all the sixth guideline would be simply assume goodwill what

would be simply assume goodwill what

would be simply assume goodwill what this means is you think the best of

this means is you think the best of

this means is you think the best of anybody when you come into a

anybody when you come into a

anybody when you come into a conversation and what happens is you

conversation and what happens is you

conversation and what happens is you start appealing to the best in that

start appealing to the best in that

start appealing to the best in that person and when you start doing that you

person and when you start doing that you

person and when you start doing that you don’t appeal to the worst in that person

don’t appeal to the worst in that person

don’t appeal to the worst in that person and you can actually have a good

and you can actually have a good

and you can actually have a good conversation so here’s to having many

conversation so here’s to having many

conversation so here’s to having many important and good conversations about

important and good conversations about

important and good conversations about most pressing issues of our times

most pressing issues of our times

most pressing issues of our times conversations with our friends our

conversations with our friends our

conversations with our friends our family conversations in school in office

family conversations in school in office

family conversations in school in office in public life in speeches in mahalo

in public life in speeches in mahalo

in public life in speeches in mahalo Saba’s so on and so forth thanks

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