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A Dialogue on Practicing Change | Eileen Fisher | TEDxWashingtonSquare


Eileen would you mind sharing a little

Eileen would you mind sharing a little bit about your own story how you grew up

bit about your own story how you grew up

bit about your own story how you grew up and how in that context you found your

and how in that context you found your

and how in that context you found your voice or didn’t maybe so I I grew up I

voice or didn’t maybe so I I grew up I

voice or didn’t maybe so I I grew up I was caught ahead crossties I was very

was caught ahead crossties I was very

was caught ahead crossties I was very shy I had terrible time speaking I still

shy I had terrible time speaking I still

shy I had terrible time speaking I still struggle with that when they asked me to

struggle with that when they asked me to

struggle with that when they asked me to do a TED talk I said no way but someone

do a TED talk I said no way but someone

do a TED talk I said no way but someone could interview me so we’ll try that

could interview me so we’ll try that

could interview me so we’ll try that but so because speaking was so difficult

but so because speaking was so difficult

but so because speaking was so difficult I developed my visual skills and I was

I developed my visual skills and I was

I developed my visual skills and I was fascinated by fabrics and colors and

fascinated by fabrics and colors and

fascinated by fabrics and colors and proportion and I went into design and so

proportion and I went into design and so

proportion and I went into design and so I ended up being a clothing designer I

I ended up being a clothing designer I

I ended up being a clothing designer I actually worked in interior design for a

actually worked in interior design for a

actually worked in interior design for a while but had to give that up because

while but had to give that up because

while but had to give that up because there was too much relationship and

there was too much relationship and

there was too much relationship and speaking and you know that kind of thing

speaking and you know that kind of thing

speaking and you know that kind of thing involved and with clothing I could go in

involved and with clothing I could go in

involved and with clothing I could go in and you know just kind of I I could see

and you know just kind of I I could see

and you know just kind of I I could see the pictures in my mind and so that’s

the pictures in my mind and so that’s

the pictures in my mind and so that’s kind of how I started I saw the pictures

kind of how I started I saw the pictures

kind of how I started I saw the pictures of the clothes and and just started

of the clothes and and just started

of the clothes and and just started coming to me in much more complicated

coming to me in much more complicated

coming to me in much more complicated than that but anyway that’s kind of the

than that but anyway that’s kind of the

than that but anyway that’s kind of the beginning as you found your way through

beginning as you found your way through

beginning as you found your way through your creativity and design even as the

your creativity and design even as the

your creativity and design even as the company was growing your practices

company was growing your practices

company was growing your practices deepening sometimes it’s hard just to be

deepening sometimes it’s hard just to be

deepening sometimes it’s hard just to be present in the moment we find ourselves

present in the moment we find ourselves

present in the moment we find ourselves sort of drifting off or not being in the

sort of drifting off or not being in the

sort of drifting off or not being in the moment which often means we’re not there

moment which often means we’re not there

moment which often means we’re not there for the most important things that

for the most important things that

for the most important things that matter would you mind sharing how an

matter would you mind sharing how an

matter would you mind sharing how an embodiment practice helped you stay

embodiment practice helped you stay

embodiment practice helped you stay present in tough times and through

present in tough times and through

present in tough times and through things that really mattered in your own

things that really mattered in your own

things that really mattered in your own relationship for example with your

relationship for example with your

relationship for example with your husband yeah well I think actually even

husband yeah well I think actually even

husband yeah well I think actually even back to my childhood story one of the

back to my childhood story one of the

back to my childhood story one of the things that I did and I came to

things that I did and I came to

things that I did and I came to understand much later

understand much later

understand much later that I would I was in a kind of

that I would I was in a kind of

that I would I was in a kind of difficult kind of no-win situation with

difficult kind of no-win situation with

difficult kind of no-win situation with my mother who was kind of difficult

my mother who was kind of difficult

my mother who was kind of difficult person and so I would just shut down

person and so I would just shut down

person and so I would just shut down that’s part of how I went into my own

that’s part of how I went into my own

that’s part of how I went into my own world so that became my sort of habit in

world so that became my sort of habit in

world so that became my sort of habit in life to just shut down

life to just shut down

life to just shut down so I over the years I did many different

so I over the years I did many different

so I over the years I did many different kinds of practices I I’ve been

kinds of practices I I’ve been

kinds of practices I I’ve been meditating for years and doing yoga and

meditating for years and doing yoga and

meditating for years and doing yoga and things of that nature but I think it was

things of that nature but I think it was

things of that nature but I think it was around three years ago or so that I got

around three years ago or so that I got

around three years ago or so that I got introduced to this somatic experiencing

introduced to this somatic experiencing

introduced to this somatic experiencing work it’s kind of a trauma based work

work it’s kind of a trauma based work

work it’s kind of a trauma based work and I watched this DVD and followed

and I watched this DVD and followed

and I watched this DVD and followed along and did this exercise where I

along and did this exercise where I

along and did this exercise where I won’t go into what the exercise was a

won’t go into what the exercise was a

won’t go into what the exercise was a little complicated but it had to do with

little complicated but it had to do with

little complicated but it had to do with working on a trigger in a relationship

working on a trigger in a relationship

working on a trigger in a relationship for me like I had been married and

for me like I had been married and

for me like I had been married and divorced a very difficult divorce

divorced a very difficult divorce

divorced a very difficult divorce communication was a problem and so so I

communication was a problem and so so I

communication was a problem and so so I used my ex-husband because one of the

used my ex-husband because one of the

used my ex-husband because one of the things that would happen is the same as

things that would happen is the same as

things that would happen is the same as with my mother when I was a child I

with my mother when I was a child I

with my mother when I was a child I would shut down and so whenever you know

would shut down and so whenever you know

would shut down and so whenever you know I’d be trying to deal with my husband

I’d be trying to deal with my husband

I’d be trying to deal with my husband around our children or organizing things

around our children or organizing things

around our children or organizing things you know this the sound of his voice

you know this the sound of his voice

you know this the sound of his voice would shut me down

would shut me down

would shut me down and I mean this was literally still

and I mean this was literally still

and I mean this was literally still happening almost three years ago where

happening almost three years ago where

happening almost three years ago where there was no reason anymore for me to

there was no reason anymore for me to

there was no reason anymore for me to hear his voice on the phone and and

hear his voice on the phone and and

hear his voice on the phone and and freeze so I did this exercise and what

freeze so I did this exercise and what

freeze so I did this exercise and what happened I didn’t expect is that all of

happened I didn’t expect is that all of

happened I didn’t expect is that all of a sudden when I saw him two days later I

a sudden when I saw him two days later I

a sudden when I saw him two days later I was talking like completely alive and

was talking like completely alive and

was talking like completely alive and opened up and you know even both of my

opened up and you know even both of my

opened up and you know even both of my kids said mom you were different I said

kids said mom you were different I said

kids said mom you were different I said what was different about me while you

what was different about me while you

what was different about me while you were talking and you never talked around

were talking and you never talked around

were talking and you never talked around dad and it was you know so something had

dad and it was you know so something had

dad and it was you know so something had happened and so I was very fascinated

happened and so I was very fascinated

happened and so I was very fascinated about what is this thing that’s going on

about what is this thing that’s going on

about what is this thing that’s going on in my body that I

in my body that I

in my body that I actually unhook a trigger and open

actually unhook a trigger and open

actually unhook a trigger and open myself up so I just became very

myself up so I just became very

myself up so I just became very fascinated to follow these kind of

fascinated to follow these kind of

fascinated to follow these kind of embodiment practices and to try to

embodiment practices and to try to

embodiment practices and to try to understand what opens me up and why do I

understand what opens me up and why do I

understand what opens me up and why do I shut down you know so I studied a lot

shut down you know so I studied a lot

shut down you know so I studied a lot about fear and you know and and I still

about fear and you know and and I still

about fear and you know and and I still work with a somatic therapist every week

work with a somatic therapist every week

work with a somatic therapist every week and so what I realize is when I’m that

and so what I realize is when I’m that

and so what I realize is when I’m that our bodies hold so much information we

our bodies hold so much information we

our bodies hold so much information we live in our heads and you know every day

live in our heads and you know every day

live in our heads and you know every day every minute we’re getting messages

every minute we’re getting messages

every minute we’re getting messages about you know like that we’re shutting

about you know like that we’re shutting

about you know like that we’re shutting down or like tensing up what is that

down or like tensing up what is that

down or like tensing up what is that about you know every time we you know

about you know every time we you know

about you know every time we you know closed down we find tension in our neck

closed down we find tension in our neck

closed down we find tension in our neck or our shoulders which is shutting off

or our shoulders which is shutting off

or our shoulders which is shutting off some of the energy going to our brain

some of the energy going to our brain

some of the energy going to our brain and and we’re less free and less open

and and we’re less free and less open

and and we’re less free and less open and less creative so what can we do

and less creative so what can we do

and less creative so what can we do about that it’s the question so I

about that it’s the question so I

about that it’s the question so I started you know exploring more and

started you know exploring more and

started you know exploring more and studying different teachers and trying

studying different teachers and trying

studying different teachers and trying to understand what what is this what you

to understand what what is this what you

to understand what what is this what you know what is this that’s happening to me

know what is this that’s happening to me

know what is this that’s happening to me and what can i how can i how can I show

and what can i how can i how can I show

and what can i how can i how can I show up more fully so part of it started by

up more fully so part of it started by

up more fully so part of it started by so I’ve been meditating but because my

so I’ve been meditating but because my

so I’ve been meditating but because my pattern as a child was to shut down

pattern as a child was to shut down

pattern as a child was to shut down meditation for me almost sometimes kind

meditation for me almost sometimes kind

meditation for me almost sometimes kind of helped me shut down it was kind of a

of helped me shut down it was kind of a

of helped me shut down it was kind of a pleasant state where I could just kind

pleasant state where I could just kind

pleasant state where I could just kind of sometimes zone out which I know is

of sometimes zone out which I know is

of sometimes zone out which I know is not officially meditating

not officially meditating

not officially meditating but for me I would got like whoa 15

but for me I would got like whoa 15

but for me I would got like whoa 15 minutes where did I go where was I it

minutes where did I go where was I it

minutes where did I go where was I it was that meditating or did I just base

was that meditating or did I just base

was that meditating or did I just base out you know so you know sort of finding

out you know so you know sort of finding

out you know so you know sort of finding my way into my body and starting to

my way into my body and starting to

my way into my body and starting to explore what was and you know what was

explore what was and you know what was

explore what was and you know what was actually going on inside you know and I

actually going on inside you know and I

actually going on inside you know and I would begin to notice you know the

would begin to notice you know the

would begin to notice you know the feelings of anxiety or my heart beating

feelings of anxiety or my heart beating

feelings of anxiety or my heart beating faster you know so I would notice when I

faster you know so I would notice when I

faster you know so I would notice when I was triggered and so when I talked about

was triggered and so when I talked about

was triggered and so when I talked about my ex-husband and that sound of his

my ex-husband and that sound of his

my ex-husband and that sound of his voice it was like my energy was captured

voice it was like my energy was captured

voice it was like my energy was captured and I was not able to be present for the

and I was not able to be present for the

and I was not able to be present for the conversation and so I realized that I

conversation and so I realized that I

conversation and so I realized that I could actually notice and that I could

could actually notice and that I could

could actually notice and that I could actually make a different choice I could

actually make a different choice I could

actually make a different choice I could say oh there’s that triggered feeling

say oh there’s that triggered feeling

say oh there’s that triggered feeling there I am talking fast you know I’m

there I am talking fast you know I’m

there I am talking fast you know I’m caught in this thing I’m not really

caught in this thing I’m not really

caught in this thing I’m not really where I want to be I’m not really saying

where I want to be I’m not really saying

where I want to be I’m not really saying what I want to say because I’m I’m

what I want to say because I’m I’m

what I want to say because I’m I’m caught in my anger or frustration or my

caught in my anger or frustration or my

caught in my anger or frustration or my energy spin around this person that’s

energy spin around this person that’s

energy spin around this person that’s disturbing me but what but I could

disturbing me but what but I could

disturbing me but what but I could actually choose I could say wait a

actually choose I could say wait a

actually choose I could say wait a minute do I really want to stay there

minute do I really want to stay there

minute do I really want to stay there caught in that or can I bring myself

caught in that or can I bring myself

caught in that or can I bring myself back

back

back I can’t always bring myself back but

I can’t always bring myself back but

I can’t always bring myself back but it’s it’s starting fine the more I

it’s it’s starting fine the more I

it’s it’s starting fine the more I notice the more I can kind of cut that

notice the more I can kind of cut that

notice the more I can kind of cut that cord and get free and show up more so

cord and get free and show up more so

cord and get free and show up more so we’re going off that’s perfect I however

we’re going off that’s perfect I however

we’re going off that’s perfect I however am I doing that thing though how has

am I doing that thing though how has

am I doing that thing though how has that attunement

come to life for you in the context of

come to life for you in the context of work so we all feel sometimes fear at

work so we all feel sometimes fear at

work so we all feel sometimes fear at work sometimes we get stuck sometimes

work sometimes we get stuck sometimes

work sometimes we get stuck sometimes we’re in dynamics that are tough

we’re in dynamics that are tough

we’re in dynamics that are tough how have you tried to bring somatic

how have you tried to bring somatic

how have you tried to bring somatic practice actually into the context of

practice actually into the context of

practice actually into the context of the work environment yeah well we have

the work environment yeah well we have

the work environment yeah well we have this amazing coach his name is Marcelo

this amazing coach his name is Marcelo

this amazing coach his name is Marcelo we bring him up from Brazil once a month

we bring him up from Brazil once a month

we bring him up from Brazil once a month for a month for a week every month

for a month for a week every month

for a month for a week every month because he’s so amazing and what he does

because he’s so amazing and what he does

because he’s so amazing and what he does is the somatic work he comes right into

is the somatic work he comes right into

is the somatic work he comes right into the leadership team and he invites us to

the leadership team and he invites us to

the leadership team and he invites us to stop and notice what we’re feeling and

stop and notice what we’re feeling and

stop and notice what we’re feeling and the more we’ve been doing that the more

the more we’ve been doing that the more

the more we’ve been doing that the more we are recognizing where we’re not

we are recognizing where we’re not

we are recognizing where we’re not showing up or where we’re we’re not

showing up or where we’re we’re not

showing up or where we’re we’re not fully expressing our what’s going on for

fully expressing our what’s going on for

fully expressing our what’s going on for us so he invites us to talk about the

us so he invites us to talk about the

us so he invites us to talk about the things that are difficult and so that

things that are difficult and so that

things that are difficult and so that that can take us to the relationship

that can take us to the relationship

that can take us to the relationship piece but I but I want to kind of stay

piece but I but I want to kind of stay

piece but I but I want to kind of stay with this I keep thinking about my

with this I keep thinking about my

with this I keep thinking about my husband again and thinking about wow I

husband again and thinking about wow I

husband again and thinking about wow I can work with my husband I can work with

can work with my husband I can work with

can work with my husband I can work with anyone you know and so what I’m

anyone you know and so what I’m

anyone you know and so what I’m realizing is bringing that it’s very

realizing is bringing that it’s very

realizing is bringing that it’s very it’s pretty subtle so I’m what I’m

it’s pretty subtle so I’m what I’m

it’s pretty subtle so I’m what I’m practicing and I’m noticing it so I’m

practicing and I’m noticing it so I’m

practicing and I’m noticing it so I’m thinking about meditation now I’m

thinking about meditation now I’m

thinking about meditation now I’m jumping around a little bit it’s

jumping around a little bit it’s

jumping around a little bit it’s connected so my my current practice now

connected so my my current practice now

connected so my my current practice now is I want to bring meditation into those

is I want to bring meditation into those

is I want to bring meditation into those moments in relationship everyday and in

moments in relationship everyday and in

moments in relationship everyday and in my war in my meetings and so one of the

my war in my meetings and so one of the

my war in my meetings and so one of the things that I struggle with is listening

things that I struggle with is listening

things that I struggle with is listening and so I’m using meditation as a listen

and so I’m using meditation as a listen

and so I’m using meditation as a listen I’m using listening as a meditation

I’m using listening as a meditation

I’m using listening as a meditation practice so you know when someone when

practice so you know when someone when

practice so you know when someone when someone speaks I am trying to pay

someone speaks I am trying to pay

someone speaks I am trying to pay attention in a way that’s fully present

attention in a way that’s fully present

attention in a way that’s fully present which is actually opening a lot of

which is actually opening a lot of

which is actually opening a lot of possibilities like I want to tell one

possibilities like I want to tell one

possibilities like I want to tell one example

example

example we were interviewing for the companies

we were interviewing for the companies

we were interviewing for the companies going through this kind of massive sort

going through this kind of massive sort

going through this kind of massive sort of transformation and we are realizing

of transformation and we are realizing

of transformation and we are realizing that we have to bring in some outside

that we have to bring in some outside

that we have to bring in some outside Talent and so we were interviewing chief

Talent and so we were interviewing chief

Talent and so we were interviewing chief marketing officers we’ve not really had

marketing officers we’ve not really had

marketing officers we’ve not really had one of those which is probably why lots

one of those which is probably why lots

one of those which is probably why lots of people don’t fully know our story and

of people don’t fully know our story and

of people don’t fully know our story and it came clear through some of our work

it came clear through some of our work

it came clear through some of our work that we really needed to get our story

that we really needed to get our story

that we really needed to get our story out there more

out there more

out there more but when interviewing this person I

but when interviewing this person I

but when interviewing this person I watched myself not listen and you know

watched myself not listen and you know

watched myself not listen and you know incredibly talented candidate with

incredibly talented candidate with

incredibly talented candidate with wonderful resume but as I was talking to

wonderful resume but as I was talking to

wonderful resume but as I was talking to her she was so smart she talked so fast

her she was so smart she talked so fast

her she was so smart she talked so fast she was just so full of experience and

she was just so full of experience and

she was just so full of experience and information and I just kind of collapsed

information and I just kind of collapsed

information and I just kind of collapsed right into myself I was like I don’t

right into myself I was like I don’t

right into myself I was like I don’t think I’ll be able to work with her

think I’ll be able to work with her

think I’ll be able to work with her [Laughter]

[Laughter]

[Laughter] she’ll so definitely overshadow me or I

she’ll so definitely overshadow me or I

she’ll so definitely overshadow me or I don’t know if I went that far with the

don’t know if I went that far with the

don’t know if I went that far with the thought but you know so then I you know

thought but you know so then I you know

thought but you know so then I you know toward the end of the interview I went

toward the end of the interview I went

toward the end of the interview I went oh my god I missed what she said I just

oh my god I missed what she said I just

oh my god I missed what she said I just missed her and then you know instead of

missed her and then you know instead of

missed her and then you know instead of doing what I might have done in the past

doing what I might have done in the past

doing what I might have done in the past go like no no I’m not my type not for me

go like no no I’m not my type not for me

go like no no I’m not my type not for me or something like that even though she

or something like that even though she

or something like that even though she kind of was my time I said I think maybe

kind of was my time I said I think maybe

kind of was my time I said I think maybe we need to see her again

we need to see her again

we need to see her again and so I gave her another chance

and so I gave her another chance

and so I gave her another chance and this time I practiced listening and

and this time I practiced listening and

and this time I practiced listening and in the listening I realized she is smart

in the listening I realized she is smart

in the listening I realized she is smart if we don’t hire her we’re gonna miss

if we don’t hire her we’re gonna miss

if we don’t hire her we’re gonna miss something amazing so we went and hired

something amazing so we went and hired

something amazing so we went and hired her and she’s been with us for 90 days

her and she’s been with us for 90 days

her and she’s been with us for 90 days and I think you’re gonna see a

and I think you’re gonna see a

and I think you’re gonna see a breakthrough wonderful coming soon and

breakthrough wonderful coming soon and

breakthrough wonderful coming soon and in our story and what we’re going to be

in our story and what we’re going to be

in our story and what we’re going to be getting out there so cultivating

getting out there so cultivating

getting out there so cultivating presence then allows us to be in the

presence then allows us to be in the

presence then allows us to be in the moment for a sense of purpose how do we

moment for a sense of purpose how do we

moment for a sense of purpose how do we harness that presence in service and I’d

harness that presence in service and I’d

harness that presence in service and I’d love to hear how you have been

love to hear how you have been

love to hear how you have been cultivating

cultivating

cultivating your purpose and perhaps share the

your purpose and perhaps share the

your purpose and perhaps share the moment where you found in your chair and

moment where you found in your chair and

moment where you found in your chair and the opportunity to choose a path for the

the opportunity to choose a path for the

the opportunity to choose a path for the company yes okay great

company yes okay great

company yes okay great okay so purpose is such a great

okay so purpose is such a great

okay so purpose is such a great conversation because purpose I think

conversation because purpose I think

conversation because purpose I think helps us to know when we’re being

helps us to know when we’re being

helps us to know when we’re being distracted or we’re operating in some

distracted or we’re operating in some

distracted or we’re operating in some kind of rote or robotic way and it helps

kind of rote or robotic way and it helps

kind of rote or robotic way and it helps to kind of align us so the first part of

to kind of align us so the first part of

to kind of align us so the first part of the purpose work is just to begin to

the purpose work is just to begin to

the purpose work is just to begin to start to ask ourselves why why are why

start to ask ourselves why why are why

start to ask ourselves why why are why am I doing this like why are we why do

am I doing this like why are we why do

am I doing this like why are we why do we have to grow the company so fast why

we have to grow the company so fast why

we have to grow the company so fast why do we have to open I don’t know four or

do we have to open I don’t know four or

do we have to open I don’t know four or five new stores every year oh why do we

five new stores every year oh why do we

five new stores every year oh why do we have to do this or this but I want to

have to do this or this but I want to

have to do this or this but I want to come back to the idea of purpose as a

come back to the idea of purpose as a

come back to the idea of purpose as a journey so purpose isn’t something where

journey so purpose isn’t something where

journey so purpose isn’t something where like I asked myself why and I go like

like I asked myself why and I go like

like I asked myself why and I go like all right I’m supposed to do this I’m

all right I’m supposed to do this I’m

all right I’m supposed to do this I’m supposed to be a clothing designer and

supposed to be a clothing designer and

supposed to be a clothing designer and I’m supposed to change the fashion

I’m supposed to change the fashion

I’m supposed to change the fashion industry and you know all of that but

industry and you know all of that but

industry and you know all of that but it’s more I’m supposed to I’m supposed

it’s more I’m supposed to I’m supposed

it’s more I’m supposed to I’m supposed to find my my path I’m supposed to be

to find my my path I’m supposed to be

to find my my path I’m supposed to be uniquely me I’m supposed to show up

uniquely me I’m supposed to show up

uniquely me I’m supposed to show up fully me so that the the process of

fully me so that the the process of

fully me so that the the process of learning about purpose is is really a

learning about purpose is is really a

learning about purpose is is really a process of noticing and so for me I

process of noticing and so for me I

process of noticing and so for me I brought in again Marcella because he

brought in again Marcella because he

brought in again Marcella because he does amazing purpose work we’re actually

does amazing purpose work we’re actually

does amazing purpose work we’re actually going to offer two we’re offering to

going to offer two we’re offering to

going to offer two we’re offering to public too just interesting but so he

public too just interesting but so he

public too just interesting but so he did these incredible exercises with us

did these incredible exercises with us

did these incredible exercises with us to help us feel into purpose and so we

to help us feel into purpose and so we

to help us feel into purpose and so we did this exercise where we moved and sat

did this exercise where we moved and sat

did this exercise where we moved and sat in another chair and we imagined that we

in another chair and we imagined that we

in another chair and we imagined that we were our purpose and we were talking to

were our purpose and we were talking to

were our purpose and we were talking to ourselves and getting mad about why

ourselves and getting mad about why

ourselves and getting mad about why aren’t you listening to me and things

aren’t you listening to me and things

aren’t you listening to me and things like that

like that

like that um so after that I decided to establish

um so after that I decided to establish

um so after that I decided to establish my own purpose chair so at home I sit in

my own purpose chair so at home I sit in

my own purpose chair so at home I sit in my purpose chair every morning and ask

my purpose chair every morning and ask

my purpose chair every morning and ask myself what matters what do I need to do

myself what matters what do I need to do

myself what matters what do I need to do today and it might be something really

today and it might be something really

today and it might be something really simple like go to that meeting or or

simple like go to that meeting or or

simple like go to that meeting or or make that phone call or make sure I

make that phone call or make sure I

make that phone call or make sure I connect with that person and or or it

connect with that person and or or it

connect with that person and or or it might be just a simple message of show

might be just a simple message of show

might be just a simple message of show up with love so comes to me differently

up with love so comes to me differently

up with love so comes to me differently every day but one day I sat in my

every day but one day I sat in my

every day but one day I sat in my purpose chair and I hit I was really

purpose chair and I hit I was really

purpose chair and I hit I was really tired I had been to two back-to-back

tired I had been to two back-to-back

tired I had been to two back-to-back conferences and the company was doing a

conferences and the company was doing a

conferences and the company was doing a conference on sustainability and this

conference on sustainability and this

conference on sustainability and this was about three years ago and so I had

was about three years ago and so I had

was about three years ago and so I had promised that I would show up just to

promised that I would show up just to

promised that I would show up just to kind of bless the work that I wouldn’t

kind of bless the work that I wouldn’t

kind of bless the work that I wouldn’t get into the weeds I would just show up

get into the weeds I would just show up

get into the weeds I would just show up and say great you know it’s good that

and say great you know it’s good that

and say great you know it’s good that everybody’s doing this work but I said

everybody’s doing this work but I said

everybody’s doing this work but I said in my purpose chair and I I went I had

in my purpose chair and I I went I had

in my purpose chair and I I went I had this like sense of energy of like oh my

this like sense of energy of like oh my

this like sense of energy of like oh my god I was like I can feel it now the

god I was like I can feel it now the

god I was like I can feel it now the sense that whoa this is really important

sense that whoa this is really important

sense that whoa this is really important just like I came alive with this sense

just like I came alive with this sense

just like I came alive with this sense of purpose and I went upstairs and

of purpose and I went upstairs and

of purpose and I went upstairs and packed my bag for four days I went to

packed my bag for four days I went to

packed my bag for four days I went to the conference and you know it was our

the conference and you know it was our

the conference and you know it was our own internal team about 25 people across

own internal team about 25 people across

own internal team about 25 people across the company designers and salespeople in

the company designers and salespeople in

the company designers and salespeople in merchandisers and you know other people

merchandisers and you know other people

merchandisers and you know other people from across the companies social

from across the companies social

from across the companies social consciousness and sustainability people

consciousness and sustainability people

consciousness and sustainability people and we did amazing four days of work you

and we did amazing four days of work you

and we did amazing four days of work you know all the kinds of laid out all the

know all the kinds of laid out all the

know all the kinds of laid out all the plans of the different materials and

plans of the different materials and

plans of the different materials and processes and things we needed to look

processes and things we needed to look

processes and things we needed to look at and how we were going to map and

at and how we were going to map and

at and how we were going to map and measure all the work we were doing and

measure all the work we were doing and

measure all the work we were doing and at the end it came clear that we needed

at the end it came clear that we needed

at the end it came clear that we needed to make a commitment that we would

to make a commitment that we would

to make a commitment that we would become a hundred percent sustainable

become a hundred percent sustainable

become a hundred percent sustainable company and I remember thinking I have

company and I remember thinking I have

company and I remember thinking I have to I have to say yes to this and so I

to I have to say yes to this and so I

to I have to say yes to this and so I stood up and I said yes we have to do

stood up and I said yes we have to do

stood up and I said yes we have to do this and I realized what I said earlier

this and I realized what I said earlier

this and I realized what I said earlier when you asked me about my voice that

when you asked me about my voice that

when you asked me about my voice that my voice mattered you know this was my

my voice mattered you know this was my

my voice mattered you know this was my unique place to say yes and so I always

unique place to say yes and so I always

unique place to say yes and so I always thought and if myself as kind of leading

thought and if myself as kind of leading

thought and if myself as kind of leading on the side and nurturing the whole and

on the side and nurturing the whole and

on the side and nurturing the whole and all those things but this was a moment

all those things but this was a moment

all those things but this was a moment to step in and say wow my choice is

to step in and say wow my choice is

to step in and say wow my choice is power

power

power I can I can I can make a difference here

I can I can I can make a difference here

I can I can I can make a difference here so doing that my social consciousness

so doing that my social consciousness

so doing that my social consciousness director says that was actually a

director says that was actually a

director says that was actually a turning point for the company and I

turning point for the company and I

turning point for the company and I shouldn’t I don’t want to take credit

shouldn’t I don’t want to take credit

shouldn’t I don’t want to take credit because it really I didn’t do the hard

because it really I didn’t do the hard

because it really I didn’t do the hard work they are out there every day you

work they are out there every day you

work they are out there every day you know really changing the way we work and

know really changing the way we work and

know really changing the way we work and you know the designers and it deeply

you know the designers and it deeply

you know the designers and it deeply committed the product development people

committed the product development people

committed the product development people the sales people that advertise the

the sales people that advertise the

the sales people that advertise the whole team it’s so embedded now this

whole team it’s so embedded now this

whole team it’s so embedded now this social compass sustainability work we

social compass sustainability work we

social compass sustainability work we now have a vision we call 20/20 vision

now have a vision we call 20/20 vision

now have a vision we call 20/20 vision to our vision 20/20 and and and the work

to our vision 20/20 and and and the work

to our vision 20/20 and and and the work now we just recently did a whole

now we just recently did a whole

now we just recently did a whole ambassador training because so many

ambassador training because so many

ambassador training because so many people in the company are so lit up with

people in the company are so lit up with

people in the company are so lit up with purpose around this work that they want

purpose around this work that they want

purpose around this work that they want to take it out and spread what we’re

to take it out and spread what we’re

to take it out and spread what we’re doing and share it and draw in the other

doing and share it and draw in the other

doing and share it and draw in the other fashion companies and and figure out how

fashion companies and and figure out how

fashion companies and and figure out how we can change the world but what’s so

we can change the world but what’s so

we can change the world but what’s so interesting to me is that it isn’t about

interesting to me is that it isn’t about

interesting to me is that it isn’t about changing the world out there it’s about

changing the world out there it’s about

changing the world out there it’s about how we show up you know it’s about you

how we show up you know it’s about you

how we show up you know it’s about you know that sort of moment to moment

know that sort of moment to moment

know that sort of moment to moment sitting in that purpose chair you know

sitting in that purpose chair you know

sitting in that purpose chair you know noticing if I should be in this call or

noticing if I should be in this call or

noticing if I should be in this call or I should speak up with my husband or in

I should speak up with my husband or in

I should speak up with my husband or in this meeting or I should hire this

this meeting or I should hire this

this meeting or I should hire this person it’s all those little moment to

person it’s all those little moment to

person it’s all those little moment to moment choices where we need to let go

moment choices where we need to let go

moment choices where we need to let go of those things that trigger us and

of those things that trigger us and

of those things that trigger us and distract us and confuse us and keep

distract us and confuse us and keep

distract us and confuse us and keep centering ourselves to what is our

centering ourselves to what is our

centering ourselves to what is our unique voice or gift in that exact

unique voice or gift in that exact

unique voice or gift in that exact moment

moment

moment amen to that so to such a

thank you Thank You Irene for your

thank you Thank You Irene for your generosity for your lived and earned

generosity for your lived and earned

generosity for your lived and earned wisdom and just as we conclude this

wisdom and just as we conclude this

wisdom and just as we conclude this conversation I’d like to share a quote

conversation I’d like to share a quote

conversation I’d like to share a quote from the modern dancer Martha Graham

from the modern dancer Martha Graham

from the modern dancer Martha Graham there is a vitality a life force an

there is a vitality a life force an

there is a vitality a life force an energy a quickening that is translated

energy a quickening that is translated

energy a quickening that is translated through you into action and because

through you into action and because

through you into action and because there is only one you in all time this

there is only one you in all time this

there is only one you in all time this expression is unique and if you block it

expression is unique and if you block it

expression is unique and if you block it it will never exist through any other

it will never exist through any other

it will never exist through any other medium the world will not have it it is

medium the world will not have it it is

medium the world will not have it it is not your business to determine how good

not your business to determine how good

not your business to determine how good it is or how valuable nor how it

it is or how valuable nor how it

it is or how valuable nor how it compares with others expressions it is

compares with others expressions it is

compares with others expressions it is your business to keep it yours clearly

your business to keep it yours clearly

your business to keep it yours clearly and directly you do not have to believe

and directly you do not have to believe

and directly you do not have to believe in yourself or your work you have to

in yourself or your work you have to

in yourself or your work you have to keep open and aware directly to the

keep open and aware directly to the

keep open and aware directly to the urges that motivate you keep the channel

urges that motivate you keep the channel

urges that motivate you keep the channel open thank

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