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Есть ли выход из созависимых отношений? | Aliya Zhaksyabyeva | TEDxAbayStWomen


my name is Ilya to me 33 years old and

and for seven years I lived in

co-dependency was 22 and I was

madly in love with me

I could not imagine life without it

and it seemed to me that my

life in this that if I lose it then I

just die in the same second to me

it seemed that this is true love

but it was codependence what is

codependence many say that

codependency

Well, if at all someone heard about this

compulsory partnership partner

destructive relationship with a person

which is some kind of dependence

alcohol addiction narcotic

workaholism gambling in this spirit but I

I think that it is not necessary to contact

an alcoholic in order to fall

co-dependent relationship for me meaning

co-dependencies in that you

see the source of the meaning of your life in

someone else is not in itself a source of happiness

in another person codependence has

its reasons, it does not appear out of nowhere

and with dependence and this childhood and

family can be such that you

relatively sensible person but

marry an addict and

fall into all the dependence and pressure

It also leads to the fact that

people become addicted I would like to

say that the co-dependent can be any

regardless of gender, can

to be a man or a woman is not very important

but in our society women are more

suffer from codependence simply because

that women’s gender socialization

leads to the fact that women in

thought of a very early age that

relationship for them is all that marriage for

they are all that happiness is for them only

can be in partnership and that if you

lonely this means you are unhappy I would

wanted to say that now I can not

listening to music in Russian

I can still speak English because

I do not understand everything, but in Russian it’s not very

because most of our songs

it’s just games about the dependence of 90

percent of songs in them the idea is broadcast

I without you I die without you I can not live

here you go I drop out of the window and there still

all sorts of things like this but it’s true and

it ‘s actually such a feeling that

girls zombies

you should like at the very beginning was here

this performance you should get married

the same girl and that’s all this and

prize all this was all it was with me and

now when I read the theory simply

dependence is a sign of codependence

this is the absence of hidden open communication

manipulating love on condition

now we set this all on it

was in my relationship then absence

open communication, it is the majority of people

suffer from it, but when you and your

partner can not talk about what

you really want to tell him

with some hints

or try to show him your

behavior that you need here is this but not

say what exactly it is you need

standard such a scene when you have

man asks what’s wrong

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manipulation in the same spirit when you

cause a person’s feelings of guilt and

Try to make him feel it

feeling, and out of this feeling, did what

You do not need a direct request directly

manipulating love on conditions when

you or your partner are behaving

so I’ll love you if you

will be good

if you’re going to be like this

you will fulfill a bunch of conditions then I

I will tee

love this not only for male female

This relates to

relations between parents and children

when your child needs your love

deserve or you as a child need

deserve love before your

parents should tick

all these points in order that you

to love confusion for

I’m a standard example of this when

adult mother of an adult 20-year-old forehead

says we are going to university we

chose this faculty here is this merger

but generally I should not end

remembers very much theories but something about

up to three

then it’s still normal to talk about

yourself with the baby and control the control in

when your husband or boyfriend or

you call ask where you are and with whom you

and when you come and why are you there?

do not give a person

uncontrollably somehow build

your life but not necessarily be in

you can just live and

be dependent on the signs of the past month

dependent person is if you are addicted

from the opinions of others

We do not live in an ideal world. We are not all

perfect and I can not say that

absolutely regardless of opinion

surrounding the sense of position

but not of course

worrying about what you think about me

think but this is not the meaning of my

to earn your love and sympathy

The need for continued approval and

The need for approval is available to all but

co-dependent need for approval is not

saturate and that is, he is praised and he is not enough

and the person suffers from this and

surrounding people, too, the need for

external stimulants and low self-esteem

this is related to each other but about the low

self-esteem, I think you can not tell

all ever faced it nor

ability to be aware of feelings

A very complex topic and could be

a separate topic

The way in which they appear is not

ability to be aware of their feelings but

if you were once at a dead end when

thought about what you feel

felt this confusion that you do not

you understand then you have it and

feeling of the victim that is if

once you thought about the fact that everything is bad

because this is it and this is not because

that I am but because in the world around me

state policy

my mom did not like me and that’s it.

this suggests that you are all dependent and

all this was with me all this was in my

life and in my relationship, I remember my

was such as it seems to me now stupid

belief that I can not love that

It’s impossible to love me the way I am

there is also that in order to be loved

I need to fulfill a bunch of conditions I still have

then was not married

but as a single-minded person decided

that I am going to marry this man and

set itself such a plan now is

sounds pretty creepy but I decided to understand

what kind of woman does he need an ideal

the woman he needed seemed to me then that

I’m awfully wise and such a quick-witted

Perspicacious all understand but in fact

most men need the same thing and and

I became here an ideal woman then

I tried to be a good hostess

I learned to cook I always have it

I never listened to him

accepted all his friends as such

they are also such a stiva arka wife

ideal wife vacuum

I tried very hard and it turns out

that I forbade myself many feelings I

I forbade myself to be indignant

to resent myself because it seemed to me

This is what she is cutting him and I

It is forbidden to itself

I forbade myself to be real and

Yes, I married him and yes I have

a child was born but there was no happiness and

relations became

worse and worse, and I did not understand what was wrong

Then it seemed to me that it was in me that

I’m not trying enough and it turned out

that happiness is here it ‘s around the corner yet

just a little more you can do this here

better to make yourself even more

perfect and then he will understand what to me from

it is necessary and then it will become good and

then everything will be fine I do not want

say badly the demand of its already former

husband

because I think that in relations with

at that moment

few would remain in adequate

because when you are loved

love without any conditions when you are all

simplify when you still love and

try to be good for you very few people

may not feel

permissiveness that you can actually

everything and she will not go anywhere and will be herself

love and I created all to have

a picture appeared in his head

and now I understand that in dependent

relations

happiness can not be, in principle, because

what

co-dependent places the source of the part in

another person in his behavior and

thinks that here he will change and then everything

I will not be good, that is, even in

head did not come that in order to

to be happy I can do something

for myself that I can choose and all

time looked at him and thought about

that now now he will do that

much later I was already engaged in paired

I am dancing the tango was engaged and I remember it

The discovery for me was that in order to

so that the dance turned out to be necessary in

its own balance sheet

that is, beginners usually in one way or another

hang on the partner that is they have

There’s no balance there, you have to dance on

heels and it turns out you’re falling and

you hang and dance then does not work for

that the dance turned out good for

that there was this exchange of energy

both should be in their

their own balance, they both must be able to

stand on your own feet without

partner that is there were exercises

when you just stand and should

keep the balance just stand and

keeps balance on no one leaning

and in life it is also very important that

great awareness I had in

the moment that in order to achieve

happiness must learn to stand

alone on my own feet and then I

did not understand this

but I realized that I live badly I

I understood that there was no happiness. I understood that

that it must be done and then I remember the day

I remember the hour I remember even where I was

when to me for the first time came in

head this idea I thought if he would go away

I will not die for me it was such

awesome awareness here if he

go now I will not die life will be

continue and this was the very first step

I began to think about what I can do

for myself and I then went to a psychologist to me

lucky in terms of what I had

friends who supported me in this

there was one friend who gave me

psychologist contact very good la

another girlfriend who is in

thousands of kilometers away from me very much

motivated me and told you

please go to a psychologist and I need it

went it was a great job she

lasted several years

which these years are many that in my life

changed and it was not like in a movie that

you come to the psychologist for the next

day you are aware

and you start to change your life to

the best was at the time when

it seemed that it gets worse, that is up to

this you were

I was frozen not nothing

I felt here I began to understand that I

I feel it feels then it’s many

were

awareness of which

hurt me but step three for

I see myself that I continued to walk

psychologist in spite of the fact that to me

it seemed that it did not get better that I

continued to work on themselves and there were

I realized what I want real

I’m not melting that which has appeared

because society squeezed or I’m good

daughter or I’m a good wife and I’m real me

I want this second consciousness was then

that I can fill my life with meaning

yourself what I can find myself

the meaning of my life I have three children and I

really like them but they do not mean my

life is a rather strange statement

as if contradicting one another

but you understand when you see in your

children the meaning of life in this very much is not

freedom for children, that is, it turns out that

they should justify in my life they

must achieve something in order to

was not good and most likely if I

I see my children the meaning of life I want

to give this life a form I will say

why do not you leave in this

university

why do not you do this here

maybe dancing and maybe

songs and maybe more than that I will

try to have them live for me then

I did not live and they will have a feeling

that they are within the framework and now I am

I hope very much that they have this

there is no feeling

I have the eldest daughter and two boys

and for some reason I really think a lot

daughters

I really want that someday

When in her life there will be a hint of

such destructive attitudes that

I had it she would have said my mom

taught me to treat you carefully and

live joyfully and therefore, and pork this

I will not do it this is my dream and

awareness was another thing

co-dependency is fruitful dependence if

You sous dependent who your children will

co-dependency their children will be co-dependent

this will continue until

you do not want to break this chain until you

do not want to consciously become

free to become happy sometime

For a long time I passed such test I

specifically put it on a slide

the name of this test is the co -ependence scale

van hall and here is the result and tests

which were in 2007 the total

the number of points there is 80 and I have

it turned out 64 and most recently I am again

passed this test and I already happened

the result is 32

it is not ideally ex- co-dependent also

as the former alcoholics do not happen it

the truth I must remember about this is that

I am inside this weak part

and it’s good when I somehow behave and in

for a moment I understand, I’ve fallen again

all dependency but the good news is volume

that it is treated what you can over

work and do something and

the most important thing is what you need

Well this is something that helped me personally, I do not

I can take it

tips but it helped me that I always

was

financially independent that at me

there were always friends who took me

supported the fact that I applied

psychologist is that except for individual

I worked very hard at

therapeutic groups is absolutely

another format and in it that I like

most of all this is what you understand that

you are unique but your problems are not there

Such problems are faced by many

people and why I even came and became

speak because I want many

can be learned in something themselves and understood

that their problem is not unique and

accordingly we can do something and

the most important thing is that happiness is inside everyone

person and it does not depend on anyone and

you can find your own way yourself

You can do anything to fill your

a life

the only meaning

Thank you

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