[Music] No thank you no that’s very nice you’ve
No thank you no that’s very nice you’ve
No thank you no that’s very nice you’ve been vegetarian for 40 more years right
been vegetarian for 40 more years right
been vegetarian for 40 more years right Tom yeah and not just one day a week but
Tom yeah and not just one day a week but
Tom yeah and not just one day a week but 24/7 yeah
24/7 yeah
24/7 yeah how has that affected your life it’s I
how has that affected your life it’s I
how has that affected your life it’s I love it you know and I get mates you
love it you know and I get mates you
love it you know and I get mates you know and people say don’t you miss your
know and people say don’t you miss your
know and people say don’t you miss your sausages and stuff I don’t do you don’t
sausages and stuff I don’t do you don’t
sausages and stuff I don’t do you don’t know this there’s so much good return
know this there’s so much good return
know this there’s so much good return for these days anyway that you’ve got
for these days anyway that you’ve got
for these days anyway that you’ve got more than enough my original thing which
more than enough my original thing which
more than enough my original thing which still is at the core of why they say was
still is at the core of why they say was
still is at the core of why they say was compassion I just saw a video of the
compassion I just saw a video of the
compassion I just saw a video of the campaign oh yeah
campaign oh yeah
campaign oh yeah and what I one of the things I think is
and what I one of the things I think is
and what I one of the things I think is so interesting about it is you’re just
so interesting about it is you’re just
so interesting about it is you’re just asking for one day a week mmm
asking for one day a week mmm
asking for one day a week mmm why did you decide to just do one day a
why did you decide to just do one day a
why did you decide to just do one day a week I think you know if you say to
week I think you know if you say to
week I think you know if you say to people I’m a vegetarian I think it’s
people I’m a vegetarian I think it’s
people I’m a vegetarian I think it’s great I’ve been this way for 40 years
great I’ve been this way for 40 years
great I’ve been this way for 40 years now you should be a vegetarian it’s too
now you should be a vegetarian it’s too
now you should be a vegetarian it’s too much for them to take in what it means
much for them to take in what it means
much for them to take in what it means they’ve got to change the whole
they’ve got to change the whole
they’ve got to change the whole lifestyle so what we find is if you say
lifestyle so what we find is if you say
lifestyle so what we find is if you say to people we’ll try one day they can do
to people we’ll try one day they can do
to people we’ll try one day they can do that and they’re kind of willing to do
that and they’re kind of willing to do
that and they’re kind of willing to do that and then some people go oh this is
that and then some people go oh this is
that and then some people go oh this is good
good
good well maybe I’ll do two days so I think
well maybe I’ll do two days so I think
well maybe I’ll do two days so I think you think’s like that yeah I don’t think
you think’s like that yeah I don’t think
you think’s like that yeah I don’t think you’re gonna approach with the
you’re gonna approach with the
you’re gonna approach with the sledgehammer you’ve got to kind of just
sledgehammer you’ve got to kind of just
sledgehammer you’ve got to kind of just keep it gentle venom
keep it gentle venom
keep it gentle venom well sometimes you know I see
well sometimes you know I see
well sometimes you know I see environmentalists with messages and it
environmentalists with messages and it
environmentalists with messages and it sounds like moralistic scolding and I
sounds like moralistic scolding and I
sounds like moralistic scolding and I don’t know that it’s terribly effective
don’t know that it’s terribly effective
don’t know that it’s terribly effective I try and keep it as something that I
I try and keep it as something that I
I try and keep it as something that I would have understood and I would have
would have understood and I would have
would have understood and I would have accepted before I was vegetarian
accepted before I was vegetarian
accepted before I was vegetarian so years ago we were linden I were on a
so years ago we were linden I were on a
so years ago we were linden I were on a farm and we had sheep and they’d had
farm and we had sheep and they’d had
farm and we had sheep and they’d had lambs and it’s the most beautiful time
lambs and it’s the most beautiful time
lambs and it’s the most beautiful time of the Lambs life they’re sort of full
of the Lambs life they’re sort of full
of the Lambs life they’re sort of full of spirit and full of energy and we
of spirit and full of energy and we
of spirit and full of energy and we happened to be eating like a lamp
happened to be eating like a lamp
happened to be eating like a lamp we weren’t vegetarian and so when we
we weren’t vegetarian and so when we
we weren’t vegetarian and so when we made the connection we said you know or
made the connection we said you know or
made the connection we said you know or should we try and not do this
should we try and not do this
should we try and not do this so we did and never look back but it
so we did and never look back but it
so we did and never look back but it basically was sort of out of compassion
basically was sort of out of compassion
basically was sort of out of compassion for these lambs who just been born yeah
for these lambs who just been born yeah
for these lambs who just been born yeah we’re in the first month of their lives
we’re in the first month of their lives
we’re in the first month of their lives and were shortly to have ended it’s like
and were shortly to have ended it’s like
and were shortly to have ended it’s like doesn’t seem right but they’re more
doesn’t seem right but they’re more
doesn’t seem right but they’re more recently people have started to draw
recently people have started to draw
recently people have started to draw this comparison between greenhouse gases
this comparison between greenhouse gases
this comparison between greenhouse gases and just basically too much livestock on
and just basically too much livestock on
and just basically too much livestock on earth it won’t be so bad it was just one
earth it won’t be so bad it was just one
earth it won’t be so bad it was just one or two on a farm but well there’s
or two on a farm but well there’s
or two on a farm but well there’s billions the way we now do it it has a
billions the way we now do it it has a
billions the way we now do it it has a big effect on the atmosphere and there
big effect on the atmosphere and there
big effect on the atmosphere and there was in 2006 there was a report that came
was in 2006 there was a report that came
was in 2006 there was a report that came out from the United Nations called
out from the United Nations called
out from the United Nations called livestock’s long shadow that I read it
livestock’s long shadow that I read it
livestock’s long shadow that I read it explained that that livestock were
explained that that livestock were
explained that that livestock were responsible for more greenhouse gases
responsible for more greenhouse gases
responsible for more greenhouse gases than transport which I thought it was
than transport which I thought it was
than transport which I thought it was airplanes trucks cars I thought that was
airplanes trucks cars I thought that was
airplanes trucks cars I thought that was the big culprit but when they when this
the big culprit but when they when this
the big culprit but when they when this fact came out I thought well you know
fact came out I thought well you know
fact came out I thought well you know that’s important it’s quite quite
that’s important it’s quite quite
that’s important it’s quite quite amazing and you don’t think about it but
amazing and you don’t think about it but
amazing and you don’t think about it but then when you start to think wait a
then when you start to think wait a
then when you start to think wait a minute some of the fast food people
minute some of the fast food people
minute some of the fast food people their prevalence in the world and the
their prevalence in the world and the
their prevalence in the world and the amount of cattle needed to feed that
amount of cattle needed to feed that
amount of cattle needed to feed that worldwide craving is huge so do you
worldwide craving is huge so do you
worldwide craving is huge so do you think that there will be receptivity to
think that there will be receptivity to
think that there will be receptivity to this message I mean a lot of people
this message I mean a lot of people
this message I mean a lot of people don’t have any problem with eating meat
don’t have any problem with eating meat
don’t have any problem with eating meat they just think what we do that’s how we
they just think what we do that’s how we
they just think what we do that’s how we grew up yeah well I was that yeah and
grew up yeah well I was that yeah and
grew up yeah well I was that yeah and that’s exactly how I was still in my
that’s exactly how I was still in my
that’s exactly how I was still in my case I saw the lemons and made the
case I saw the lemons and made the
case I saw the lemons and made the connection I mean like I say you know
connection I mean like I say you know
connection I mean like I say you know for me the bottom line is we are on this
for me the bottom line is we are on this
for me the bottom line is we are on this incredible planet and there doesn’t
incredible planet and there doesn’t
incredible planet and there doesn’t appear to be another one within sight
appear to be another one within sight
appear to be another one within sight somehow it seems that we are this
somehow it seems that we are this
somehow it seems that we are this miraculous little planet and we are on
miraculous little planet and we are on
miraculous little planet and we are on it this human race and alongside us
it this human race and alongside us
it this human race and alongside us these little dudes these animals and
these little dudes these animals and
these little dudes these animals and that we’ve all got this chance in life
that we’ve all got this chance in life
that we’ve all got this chance in life to sort of survive and so I like the
to sort of survive and so I like the
to sort of survive and so I like the idea of giving them their best shot so
idea of giving them their best shot so
idea of giving them their best shot so you know that’s the idea for me is just
you know that’s the idea for me is just
you know that’s the idea for me is just it’s a life and I don’t see why I
it’s a life and I don’t see why I
it’s a life and I don’t see why I shouldn’t allow that animal to have that
shouldn’t allow that animal to have that
shouldn’t allow that animal to have that life when I don’t need to take it I mean
life when I don’t need to take it I mean
life when I don’t need to take it I mean I like I used to do a bit of fishing I
I like I used to do a bit of fishing I
I like I used to do a bit of fishing I remember catching a fish once and all in
remember catching a fish once and all in
remember catching a fish once and all in him in and just seeing him kind of
him in and just seeing him kind of
him in and just seeing him kind of struggling for life but I thought oh
struggling for life but I thought oh
struggling for life but I thought oh okay
okay
okay you know that’s where you live under the
you know that’s where you live under the
you know that’s where you live under the water now I’m pulling you out into this
water now I’m pulling you out into this
water now I’m pulling you out into this alien that was fierce so what did you do
alien that was fierce so what did you do
alien that was fierce so what did you do put him back but that was the last time
put him back but that was the last time
put him back but that was the last time I fished because I you know I’m I
I fished because I you know I’m I
I fished because I you know I’m I suppose I’m a bit conscious of that now
suppose I’m a bit conscious of that now
suppose I’m a bit conscious of that now particularly whereas when I grow up you
particularly whereas when I grow up you
particularly whereas when I grow up you never thought of it as meat it was just
never thought of it as meat it was just
never thought of it as meat it was just some stuff that arrived from a
some stuff that arrived from a
some stuff that arrived from a supermarket right and didn’t look like
supermarket right and didn’t look like
supermarket right and didn’t look like an animal until my mom one day served
an animal until my mom one day served
an animal until my mom one day served tongue which looked like oh no it’s very
tongue which looked like oh no it’s very
tongue which looked like oh no it’s very good you know it’s but generally
good you know it’s but generally
good you know it’s but generally speaking you didn’t make that connection
speaking you didn’t make that connection
speaking you didn’t make that connection because he all came right so I think
because he all came right so I think
because he all came right so I think that’s you know how most people are I
that’s you know how most people are I
that’s you know how most people are I think there’s a tension a little bit
think there’s a tension a little bit
think there’s a tension a little bit sometimes though between we’re able to
sometimes though between we’re able to
sometimes though between we’re able to say we’re not gonna eat meat a day a
say we’re not gonna eat meat a day a
say we’re not gonna eat meat a day a week or not eat meat at all yeah you
week or not eat meat at all yeah you
week or not eat meat at all yeah you know in a lot of parts of the world
know in a lot of parts of the world
know in a lot of parts of the world though there are people for whom raising
though there are people for whom raising
though there are people for whom raising livestock is their livelihood and that
livestock is their livelihood and that
livestock is their livelihood and that in parts of the world even having one
in parts of the world even having one
in parts of the world even having one pig or one goat or one cow is sort of
pig or one goat or one cow is sort of
pig or one goat or one cow is sort of the road out of poverty hmm does how
the road out of poverty hmm does how
the road out of poverty hmm does how does how does you how do you balance
does how does you how do you balance
does how does you how do you balance this but I don’t think that’s the
this but I don’t think that’s the
this but I don’t think that’s the problem
problem
problem I think the mass production is where the
I think the mass production is where the
I think the mass production is where the big problem starts to come in where
big problem starts to come in where
big problem starts to come in where certain companies have billions of
certain companies have billions of
certain companies have billions of animals not just one Pig billions of
animals not just one Pig billions of
animals not just one Pig billions of pigs
pigs
pigs often cramped in little in a really
often cramped in little in a really
often cramped in little in a really cruel condition so all that comes into
cruel condition so all that comes into
cruel condition so all that comes into play and you know I say to people that
play and you know I say to people that
play and you know I say to people that what happens is like me I was brought up
what happens is like me I was brought up
what happens is like me I was brought up just ordinary people in Liverpool and we
just ordinary people in Liverpool and we
just ordinary people in Liverpool and we just had ordinary food just the same as
just had ordinary food just the same as
just had ordinary food just the same as everyone in our streets but when I
everyone in our streets but when I
everyone in our streets but when I reached certain age I made a change I
reached certain age I made a change I
reached certain age I made a change I just thought you know maybe this isn’t
just thought you know maybe this isn’t
just thought you know maybe this isn’t what I want to do I’ve got them free
what I want to do I’ve got them free
what I want to do I’ve got them free will to do something else so I encourage
will to do something else so I encourage
will to do something else so I encourage people I say it’s it’s actually quite
people I say it’s it’s actually quite
people I say it’s it’s actually quite fun when you look at what you do what
fun when you look at what you do what
fun when you look at what you do what you eat how you live and think is this
you eat how you live and think is this
you eat how you live and think is this I’m going to do it the rest of my life
I’m going to do it the rest of my life
I’m going to do it the rest of my life or would it be kind of interesting just
or would it be kind of interesting just
or would it be kind of interesting just to try making a change and I think a lot
to try making a change and I think a lot
to try making a change and I think a lot of people do that these days
of people do that these days
of people do that these days particularly I just think I think for a
particularly I just think I think for a
particularly I just think I think for a lot of people they think vegetarian oh
lot of people they think vegetarian oh
lot of people they think vegetarian oh that means I have to eat tofu all the
that means I have to eat tofu all the
that means I have to eat tofu all the time yeah you know and that doesn’t seem
time yeah you know and that doesn’t seem
time yeah you know and that doesn’t seem appealing to a lot of people no well I
appealing to a lot of people no well I
appealing to a lot of people no well I agree with that the truth is there’s a
agree with that the truth is there’s a
agree with that the truth is there’s a lot of options these days so that what
lot of options these days so that what
lot of options these days so that what we’re doing with meat free Monday is
we’re doing with meat free Monday is
we’re doing with meat free Monday is just urging people to just try it one
just urging people to just try it one
just urging people to just try it one day and because it will make some kind
day and because it will make some kind
day and because it will make some kind of a difference if enough people do it
of a difference if enough people do it
of a difference if enough people do it or if the idea spreads you know every
or if the idea spreads you know every
or if the idea spreads you know every every week I’m hearing about all my kids
every week I’m hearing about all my kids
every week I’m hearing about all my kids has just decided he wants to go over to
has just decided he wants to go over to
has just decided he wants to go over to tear because he’s a sports man and you
tear because he’s a sports man and you
tear because he’s a sports man and you know it’s decided that’s better for him
know it’s decided that’s better for him
know it’s decided that’s better for him was it hard to get other people to join
was it hard to get other people to join
was it hard to get other people to join this message in that video I saw you’ve
this message in that video I saw you’ve
this message in that video I saw you’ve got Emma Stone and woody harrelson I
got Emma Stone and woody harrelson I
got Emma Stone and woody harrelson I mean are you still recruiting other
mean are you still recruiting other
mean are you still recruiting other people to try to take this message
people to try to take this message
people to try to take this message forward as I say I know a lot of people
forward as I say I know a lot of people
forward as I say I know a lot of people who are either veg town woody for
who are either veg town woody for
who are either veg town woody for instance Woody Harrelson is very vegan I
instance Woody Harrelson is very vegan I
instance Woody Harrelson is very vegan I mean you look he’s a strapping lad you
mean you look he’s a strapping lad you
mean you look he’s a strapping lad you know and he does all sorts of action
know and he does all sorts of action
know and he does all sorts of action pictures of he’s very healthy and Emmas
pictures of he’s very healthy and Emmas
pictures of he’s very healthy and Emmas a friend and I like the idea that people
a friend and I like the idea that people
a friend and I like the idea that people will like the fact that she’s a great
will like the fact that she’s a great
will like the fact that she’s a great actress and if she says the message
actress and if she says the message
actress and if she says the message you’ll just get a bit more attention you
you’ll just get a bit more attention you
you’ll just get a bit more attention you know I meet a lot of people say well you
know I meet a lot of people say well you
know I meet a lot of people say well you know I still eat me but I’m too
know I still eat me but I’m too
know I still eat me but I’m too you know eating less and people that we
you know eating less and people that we
you know eating less and people that we call their meat producers Mira do okay
call their meat producers Mira do okay
call their meat producers Mira do okay step there are people who do that yeah I
step there are people who do that yeah I
step there are people who do that yeah I might sort of ultimate theory is that
might sort of ultimate theory is that
might sort of ultimate theory is that you’ve got this beautiful little planet
you’ve got this beautiful little planet
you’ve got this beautiful little planet we’ve talked about and it’s going to be
we’ve talked about and it’s going to be
we’ve talked about and it’s going to be overpopulated is it doesn’t seem to be
overpopulated is it doesn’t seem to be
overpopulated is it doesn’t seem to be anywhere around that so you’ve got to
anywhere around that so you’ve got to
anywhere around that so you’ve got to make the food go further and it helped
make the food go further and it helped
make the food go further and it helped by not passing it through a cow so you
by not passing it through a cow so you
by not passing it through a cow so you think some of the some of the main
think some of the some of the main
think some of the some of the main advantages here are personal health
advantages here are personal health
advantages here are personal health I mean tells of the planet animal
I mean tells of the planet animal
I mean tells of the planet animal compassion mmm what am i leaving out
compassion mmm what am i leaving out
compassion mmm what am i leaving out those are the three okay over those I’m
those are the three okay over those I’m
those are the three okay over those I’m sure there are other reasons but I think
sure there are other reasons but I think
sure there are other reasons but I think those my main three so you’re one of the
those my main three so you’re one of the
those my main three so you’re one of the most famous people in the world you’ve
most famous people in the world you’ve
most famous people in the world you’ve been one of the most famous people in
been one of the most famous people in
been one of the most famous people in the world for a very long time you could
the world for a very long time you could
the world for a very long time you could support so many causes and have your
support so many causes and have your
support so many causes and have your voice heard by a lot of people why this
voice heard by a lot of people why this
voice heard by a lot of people why this cause and why now well this is personal
cause and why now well this is personal
cause and why now well this is personal you know this this is person and I do a
you know this this is person and I do a
you know this this is person and I do a lot of other causes too but this
lot of other causes too but this
lot of other causes too but this particular one this is how I live and I
particular one this is how I live and I
particular one this is how I live and I like the idea of this particular
like the idea of this particular
like the idea of this particular campaign because I can then say to
campaign because I can then say to
campaign because I can then say to people just try it if you were me what
people just try it if you were me what
people just try it if you were me what would you ask yeah
what do we think about National
what do we think about National Geographic
Geographic
Geographic I love gnashed Geographic and I’ve loved
I love gnashed Geographic and I’ve loved
I love gnashed Geographic and I’ve loved it since I was a kid it’s sort of always
it since I was a kid it’s sort of always
it since I was a kid it’s sort of always there that yellow frame and you know
there that yellow frame and you know
there that yellow frame and you know exactly where it is and you know you’re
exactly where it is and you know you’re
exactly where it is and you know you’re gonna get great photos and great stories
gonna get great photos and great stories
gonna get great photos and great stories about the world so it brings the world
about the world so it brings the world
about the world so it brings the world to you and so say I’ve always loved it
to you and so say I’ve always loved it
to you and so say I’ve always loved it anyway but one particular issue in the I
anyway but one particular issue in the I
anyway but one particular issue in the I saw in the 60s had a woman and she
saw in the 60s had a woman and she
saw in the 60s had a woman and she looked very proud and she had a baby and
looked very proud and she had a baby and
looked very proud and she had a baby and I saw that as a kind of Madonna thing
I saw that as a kind of Madonna thing
I saw that as a kind of Madonna thing mother and child and I could just you
mother and child and I could just you
mother and child and I could just you know sometimes you see pick
know sometimes you see pick
know sometimes you see pick she said mothers you go she’s a good
she said mothers you go she’s a good
she said mothers you go she’s a good mother it is tell there’s a pond and and
mother it is tell there’s a pond and and
mother it is tell there’s a pond and and I it just affected me that photo and so
I it just affected me that photo and so
I it just affected me that photo and so I was inspired to write lady Madonna my
I was inspired to write lady Madonna my
I was inspired to write lady Madonna my song from that photo well you know I I
song from that photo well you know I I
song from that photo well you know I I hear that from people all the time how
hear that from people all the time how
hear that from people all the time how they would open the magazine and get a
they would open the magazine and get a
they would open the magazine and get a sense of the world that otherwise they
sense of the world that otherwise they
sense of the world that otherwise they never had because you know you know lots
never had because you know you know lots
never had because you know you know lots of us didn’t grow up traveling around
of us didn’t grow up traveling around
of us didn’t grow up traveling around the globe as kids and so we got to see
the globe as kids and so we got to see
the globe as kids and so we got to see everything that’s right I think that was
everything that’s right I think that was
everything that’s right I think that was one of the great things about it
one of the great things about it
one of the great things about it well great photography well and great
well great photography well and great
well great photography well and great photographer who well Paul I just want
photographer who well Paul I just want
photographer who well Paul I just want to thank you so much for talking to us
to thank you so much for talking to us
to thank you so much for talking to us about your campaign and sharing your
about your campaign and sharing your
about your campaign and sharing your your feelings about it well thank you
your feelings about it well thank you
your feelings about it well thank you very much I’m honored to be in ng thank
very much I’m honored to be in ng thank
very much I’m honored to be in ng thank you thanks a lot
you thanks a lot
you thanks a lot [Music]
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