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“We have to be the guinea pigs.” Sophie’s Story (Cannabis for Kids, Part 2) | National Geographic


everybody wants to look at cannabis as

everybody wants to look at cannabis as another medicine and we have to remember

another medicine and we have to remember

another medicine and we have to remember though that most medicines are one

though that most medicines are one

though that most medicines are one ingredient cannabis is not one

ingredient cannabis is not one

ingredient cannabis is not one ingredient if you take aspirin you’re

ingredient if you take aspirin you’re

ingredient if you take aspirin you’re getting salicylic acid you know what

getting salicylic acid you know what

getting salicylic acid you know what that does we know what it is but when

that does we know what it is but when

that does we know what it is but when you’re using cannabis you’re getting 400

you’re using cannabis you’re getting 400

you’re using cannabis you’re getting 400 different compounds that are interacting

different compounds that are interacting

different compounds that are interacting and playing differently in your system

most people it’s trial and error it’s

most people it’s trial and error it’s experimentation and there has to be a

experimentation and there has to be a

experimentation and there has to be a comfort level with that because that is

comfort level with that because that is

comfort level with that because that is what it is there’s no one answer so we

what it is there’s no one answer so we

what it is there’s no one answer so we can say Charlotte’s Web and you know

can say Charlotte’s Web and you know

can say Charlotte’s Web and you know there’s a lot of hype it’s an excellent

there’s a lot of hype it’s an excellent

there’s a lot of hype it’s an excellent strain but only if it works for you

strain but only if it works for you

strain but only if it works for you sometimes you have to try ten different

sometimes you have to try ten different

sometimes you have to try ten different things to be able to find what will work

things to be able to find what will work

things to be able to find what will work either the first term that we need more

either the first term that we need more

either the first term that we need more research we need to get it off a

research we need to get it off a

research we need to get it off a Schedule one drug so we can get the

Schedule one drug so we can get the

Schedule one drug so we can get the research done so that I can tell a

research done so that I can tell a

research done so that I can tell a parent well it looks like there is no

parent well it looks like there is no

parent well it looks like there is no long-term damage but you can’t do

long-term damage but you can’t do

long-term damage but you can’t do studies long-term if you’re not allowed

studies long-term if you’re not allowed

studies long-term if you’re not allowed to do studies at all

[Music]

[Music] I always thought I was invincible you

I always thought I was invincible you

I always thought I was invincible you know I always thought that this would

know I always thought that this would

know I always thought that this would never happen to me and the fact is is

never happen to me and the fact is is

never happen to me and the fact is is that no one is invincible this disease

that no one is invincible this disease

that no one is invincible this disease knows no bounds

knows no bounds

knows no bounds I had natural birth and she came out

I had natural birth and she came out

I had natural birth and she came out perfect she was absolutely stunning like

perfect she was absolutely stunning like

perfect she was absolutely stunning like literally was ready for a pampers

literally was ready for a pampers

literally was ready for a pampers commercial it was when she was eight and

commercial it was when she was eight and

commercial it was when she was eight and a half months old it was you know I

a half months old it was you know I

a half months old it was you know I remember the day like it was yesterday

remember the day like it was yesterday

remember the day like it was yesterday Sophie’s little eyeball starting to

Sophie’s little eyeball starting to

Sophie’s little eyeball starting to shake and that Friday we were in at 6

shake and that Friday we were in at 6

shake and that Friday we were in at 6 a.m. to get an MRI life was exactly what

a.m. to get an MRI life was exactly what

a.m. to get an MRI life was exactly what I had envisioned it and then the phone

I had envisioned it and then the phone

I had envisioned it and then the phone rang it was that pivotal moment that

rang it was that pivotal moment that

rang it was that pivotal moment that changed the course of my life forever

changed the course of my life forever

changed the course of my life forever and my families she has what’s called an

and my families she has what’s called an

and my families she has what’s called an optic pathway glioma brain tumor and I

optic pathway glioma brain tumor and I

optic pathway glioma brain tumor and I remember asking the doctor I was like

remember asking the doctor I was like

remember asking the doctor I was like what is this you think a brain tumor and

what is this you think a brain tumor and

what is this you think a brain tumor and you immediately think death and I was

you immediately think death and I was

you immediately think death and I was like well what do we do I mean how do we

like well what do we do I mean how do we

like well what do we do I mean how do we treat this and he goes well there’s only

treat this and he goes well there’s only

treat this and he goes well there’s only really one method of treatment because

really one method of treatment because

really one method of treatment because Sophie is so young and that’s

Sophie is so young and that’s

Sophie is so young and that’s chemotherapy and best case scenario we

chemotherapy and best case scenario we

chemotherapy and best case scenario we would see some minimal shrinkage 13

would see some minimal shrinkage 13

would see some minimal shrinkage 13 months of chemotherapy being pumped into

months of chemotherapy being pumped into

months of chemotherapy being pumped into my kid and that’s all we got she was

my kid and that’s all we got she was

my kid and that’s all we got she was gonna have to live with this mass in her

gonna have to live with this mass in her

gonna have to live with this mass in her brain for the rest of her life and all

brain for the rest of her life and all

brain for the rest of her life and all he did was research and research and

he did was research and research and

he did was research and research and research because I just could not wrap

research because I just could not wrap

research because I just could not wrap my head around the fact that there

my head around the fact that there

my head around the fact that there weren’t more options for my child

weren’t more options for my child

weren’t more options for my child at this point literally like 20 people

at this point literally like 20 people

at this point literally like 20 people had told us about cannabis oil but they

had told us about cannabis oil but they

had told us about cannabis oil but they were all from overseas and they kept

were all from overseas and they kept

were all from overseas and they kept saying you guys should look into this

saying you guys should look into this

saying you guys should look into this you should look into this and the first

you should look into this and the first

you should look into this and the first thought I was like there is absolutely

thought I was like there is absolutely

thought I was like there is absolutely no way I’m giving my child weed we

no way I’m giving my child weed we

no way I’m giving my child weed we talked to our doctor and he was like

talked to our doctor and he was like

talked to our doctor and he was like listen I don’t know anything about it

listen I don’t know anything about it

listen I don’t know anything about it but if you guys have done the research

but if you guys have done the research

but if you guys have done the research you guys go and do what you need to do

you guys go and do what you need to do

you guys go and do what you need to do [Music]

[Music]

[Music] so we got started on the oils and so if

so we got started on the oils and so if

so we got started on the oils and so if you did fantastic

you did fantastic

you did fantastic she was sleepy which is the only side

she was sleepy which is the only side

she was sleepy which is the only side effect that she had from it because you

effect that she had from it because you

effect that she had from it because you know there’s there’s some psycho

know there’s there’s some psycho

know there’s there’s some psycho activity the THC but she did phenomenal

activity the THC but she did phenomenal

activity the THC but she did phenomenal she’s a little tank I mean that child I

she’s a little tank I mean that child I

she’s a little tank I mean that child I swear she must have been like a Navy

swear she must have been like a Navy

swear she must have been like a Navy SEAL on her past life because she she’s

SEAL on her past life because she she’s

SEAL on her past life because she she’s I mean the kids bulletproof we’ve worked

I mean the kids bulletproof we’ve worked

I mean the kids bulletproof we’ve worked her up only to a tenth of a gram because

her up only to a tenth of a gram because

her up only to a tenth of a gram because there’s so much unknown about dosing

there’s so much unknown about dosing

there’s so much unknown about dosing Janina may change it I’ve got a I’ve got

Janina may change it I’ve got a I’ve got

Janina may change it I’ve got a I’ve got a couple more specialist I need to talk

a couple more specialist I need to talk

a couple more specialist I need to talk to you we may go to four times a day TC

to you we may go to four times a day TC

to you we may go to four times a day TC in four times a day CPD so you’re gonna

in four times a day CPD so you’re gonna

in four times a day CPD so you’re gonna do TC TC TC TC and then 30 minutes later

do TC TC TC TC and then 30 minutes later

do TC TC TC TC and then 30 minutes later you’re going to do CBD CBD CBD CBD every

you’re going to do CBD CBD CBD CBD every

you’re going to do CBD CBD CBD CBD every single scan was getting smaller and

single scan was getting smaller and

single scan was getting smaller and smaller and smaller there was more and

smaller and smaller there was more and

smaller and smaller there was more and more and more necrosis which is not

more and more necrosis which is not

more and more necrosis which is not characteristic at all for these tumors

characteristic at all for these tumors

characteristic at all for these tumors she stopped chemo in November on

she stopped chemo in November on

she stopped chemo in November on November the 20th of 2014 now you know

November the 20th of 2014 now you know

November the 20th of 2014 now you know we have found ourselves in another

we have found ourselves in another

we have found ourselves in another predicament unfortunately because like

predicament unfortunately because like

predicament unfortunately because like today’s you know

today’s you know

today’s you know this is gonna kind of determine

this is gonna kind of determine

this is gonna kind of determine everything the kind of tumors that

everything the kind of tumors that

everything the kind of tumors that Sophie have are like 65 to 70 percent

Sophie have are like 65 to 70 percent

Sophie have are like 65 to 70 percent relapse rate when we got her first scan

relapse rate when we got her first scan

relapse rate when we got her first scan post treatment there was these tiny

post treatment there was these tiny

post treatment there was these tiny little spots in an area where there used

little spots in an area where there used

little spots in an area where there used to be absolutely nothing we have made

to be absolutely nothing we have made

to be absolutely nothing we have made the conscious decision because of what

the conscious decision because of what

the conscious decision because of what we feel is best for our child starts

we feel is best for our child starts

we feel is best for our child starts with a therapy again

it’s one of those things where it’s

it’s one of those things where it’s super frustrating because it’s it’s

super frustrating because it’s it’s

super frustrating because it’s it’s parents like myself and my husband that

parents like myself and my husband that

parents like myself and my husband that our kids have to keep any pigs we’re the

our kids have to keep any pigs we’re the

our kids have to keep any pigs we’re the ones that have to try all these

ones that have to try all these

ones that have to try all these different approaches and try different

different approaches and try different

different approaches and try different strains and try different extraction

strains and try different extraction

strains and try different extraction processes and see what works because the

processes and see what works because the

processes and see what works because the government won’t legalize it so that we

government won’t legalize it so that we

government won’t legalize it so that we can do federally funded trials and now

can do federally funded trials and now

can do federally funded trials and now we’re in the throes of it we are in the

we’re in the throes of it we are in the

we’re in the throes of it we are in the cutting edge of changing medical history

cutting edge of changing medical history

cutting edge of changing medical history and to think about what this means for

and to think about what this means for

and to think about what this means for my daughter and for her daughter and and

my daughter and for her daughter and and

my daughter and for her daughter and and her son and for their kids it’s really

her son and for their kids it’s really

her son and for their kids it’s really incredible no matter what she does with

incredible no matter what she does with

incredible no matter what she does with her life no matter who she becomes that

her life no matter who she becomes that

her life no matter who she becomes that my greatest achievement has been

my greatest achievement has been

my greatest achievement has been creating that little that little person

creating that little that little person

creating that little that little person she’s just amazing

she’s just amazing

she’s just amazing I’m still smiling I haven’t lost hope

I’m still smiling I haven’t lost hope

I’m still smiling I haven’t lost hope and we’ve had a setback but by no means

and we’ve had a setback but by no means

and we’ve had a setback but by no means is this the end of her story bad things

is this the end of her story bad things

is this the end of her story bad things happen so do good things and I know and

happen so do good things and I know and

happen so do good things and I know and I truly believe in my heart of hearts

I truly believe in my heart of hearts

I truly believe in my heart of hearts that we won’t have to go through this

that we won’t have to go through this

that we won’t have to go through this anymore I think she’s gonna be just fine

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