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thank you for having me here and having

thank you for having me here and having that opportunity to show you a little

that opportunity to show you a little

that opportunity to show you a little bit about the underworld in Vietnam and

bit about the underworld in Vietnam and

bit about the underworld in Vietnam and I want to side the expedition leader

I want to side the expedition leader

I want to side the expedition leader Howard Limbert who said to find the

Howard Limbert who said to find the

Howard Limbert who said to find the giant cave like Hong Hong Kong in

giant cave like Hong Hong Kong in

giant cave like Hong Hong Kong in Vietnam is something like you find the

Vietnam is something like you find the

Vietnam is something like you find the previously unknown Mount Everest have

previously unknown Mount Everest have

previously unknown Mount Everest have compared to mountains and he added and

compared to mountains and he added and

compared to mountains and he added and we still just scratched the surface so

we still just scratched the surface so

we still just scratched the surface so we don’t know exactly what is underneath

we don’t know exactly what is underneath

we don’t know exactly what is underneath his giant limestone plateaus and it’s an

his giant limestone plateaus and it’s an

his giant limestone plateaus and it’s an unknown world and it’s it was a major

unknown world and it’s it was a major

unknown world and it’s it was a major discovery done in 2009 and we revisited

discovery done in 2009 and we revisited

discovery done in 2009 and we revisited in 2010 and we explored it more and we

in 2010 and we explored it more and we

in 2010 and we explored it more and we wanted to continue fault lines and and

wanted to continue fault lines and and

wanted to continue fault lines and and even get into maybe even bigger systems

even get into maybe even bigger systems

even get into maybe even bigger systems anyway it gave me some heroes in in the

anyway it gave me some heroes in in the

anyway it gave me some heroes in in the beginning because I knew that it’s these

beginning because I knew that it’s these

beginning because I knew that it’s these were the biggest passages we know of and

were the biggest passages we know of and

were the biggest passages we know of and the biggest black holes on our planet so

the biggest black holes on our planet so

the biggest black holes on our planet so how should I photograph it how should I

how should I photograph it how should I

how should I photograph it how should I light it so I will tell you more and we

light it so I will tell you more and we

light it so I will tell you more and we start the show yeah just to give you an

start the show yeah just to give you an

start the show yeah just to give you an orientation where we are we are in

orientation where we are we are in

orientation where we are we are in central Vietnam around here that’s a

central Vietnam around here that’s a

central Vietnam around here that’s a phone knock a bang National Park it is a

phone knock a bang National Park it is a

phone knock a bang National Park it is a huge limestone plateau it’s the biggest

huge limestone plateau it’s the biggest

huge limestone plateau it’s the biggest in Asia all the gray part is is

in Asia all the gray part is is

in Asia all the gray part is is limestone rock and we have different

limestone rock and we have different

limestone rock and we have different river systems here here with cave

river systems here here with cave

river systems here here with cave entrances in red the the warming system

entrances in red the the warming system

entrances in red the the warming system here in green here in violet these are

here in green here in violet these are

here in green here in violet these are sub terian rivers with different cave

sub terian rivers with different cave

sub terian rivers with different cave entrances no and there is the Hong Hong

entrances no and there is the Hong Hong

entrances no and there is the Hong Hong Kong situated the biggest

Kong situated the biggest

Kong situated the biggest cave passage we found just in general to

cave passage we found just in general to

cave passage we found just in general to give you an idea how the landscape looks

give you an idea how the landscape looks

give you an idea how the landscape looks like so these are the edges of the edges

like so these are the edges of the edges

like so these are the edges of the edges of this limestone plateau it’s a very

of this limestone plateau it’s a very

of this limestone plateau it’s a very pretty

pretty

pretty Comcast or tower cost so we find some

Comcast or tower cost so we find some

Comcast or tower cost so we find some nice points where the people water their

nice points where the people water their

nice points where the people water their buffaloes and it is very fertile land

buffaloes and it is very fertile land

buffaloes and it is very fertile land there so they grow rice and very very

there so they grow rice and very very

there so they grow rice and very very picturesque and scenic landscape

picturesque and scenic landscape

picturesque and scenic landscape landscape but also I mean the mountains

landscape but also I mean the mountains

landscape but also I mean the mountains are very ragged and very difficult to to

are very ragged and very difficult to to

are very ragged and very difficult to to explore and this is also the edge of

explore and this is also the edge of

explore and this is also the edge of these systems so just to make a mile a

these systems so just to make a mile a

these systems so just to make a mile a horizontal mile means you have to go up

horizontal mile means you have to go up

horizontal mile means you have to go up and down and over really sharp razor

and down and over really sharp razor

and down and over really sharp razor blade sharp rocks and it’s a long way

blade sharp rocks and it’s a long way

blade sharp rocks and it’s a long way sometimes you need just a whole day to

sometimes you need just a whole day to

sometimes you need just a whole day to do a mile so that is the problem that

do a mile so that is the problem that

do a mile so that is the problem that it’s so remote and out from that plateau

it’s so remote and out from that plateau

it’s so remote and out from that plateau huge rivers come out they were first sub

huge rivers come out they were first sub

huge rivers come out they were first sub Tyrion and come to the surface and they

Tyrion and come to the surface and they

Tyrion and come to the surface and they are more or less than life lane for the

are more or less than life lane for the

are more or less than life lane for the people and they they wash their water

people and they they wash their water

people and they they wash their water buffaloes or kids playing around or for

buffaloes or kids playing around or for

buffaloes or kids playing around or for the fishermen so it’s it’s really where

the fishermen so it’s it’s really where

the fishermen so it’s it’s really where the life takes place and that is our

the life takes place and that is our

the life takes place and that is our main village where we where we based off

main village where we where we based off

main village where we where we based off so it’s called song truck it made a huge

so it’s called song truck it made a huge

so it’s called song truck it made a huge development the last 10 years so we have

development the last 10 years so we have

development the last 10 years so we have some concrete buildings and from there

some concrete buildings and from there

some concrete buildings and from there we stream out into the forest so there

we stream out into the forest so there

we stream out into the forest so there is a lot of bush walking we had

is a lot of bush walking we had

is a lot of bush walking we had fantastic assistance with

fantastic assistance with

fantastic assistance with with Bushman jungle man who ported us

with Bushman jungle man who ported us

with Bushman jungle man who ported us our our goods over very steep bracket

our our goods over very steep bracket

our our goods over very steep bracket terrain it’s always well you if you are

terrain it’s always well you if you are

terrain it’s always well you if you are in front of that row you have to hack

in front of that row you have to hack

in front of that row you have to hack your way through the bush give eff you

your way through the bush give eff you

your way through the bush give eff you face a lot of spider nets and well in

face a lot of spider nets and well in

face a lot of spider nets and well in between you can see some nice poisonous

between you can see some nice poisonous

between you can see some nice poisonous snakes or some centipedes and if you are

snakes or some centipedes and if you are

snakes or some centipedes and if you are in the end of the row you get all the

in the end of the row you get all the

in the end of the row you get all the leeches who are detecting something is

leeches who are detecting something is

leeches who are detecting something is coming and so so the leeches will call

coming and so so the leeches will call

coming and so so the leeches will call on you up onto your body and into your

on you up onto your body and into your

on you up onto your body and into your clothes so for me where numb is the

clothes so for me where numb is the

clothes so for me where numb is the country of butterflies so it is amazing

country of butterflies so it is amazing

country of butterflies so it is amazing it’s overwhelming you see butterflies

it’s overwhelming you see butterflies

it’s overwhelming you see butterflies everywhere and as many butterflies you

everywhere and as many butterflies you

everywhere and as many butterflies you see and as beautiful they are that many

see and as beautiful they are that many

see and as beautiful they are that many caterpillars you have to and they are

caterpillars you have to and they are

caterpillars you have to and they are hairy and they have educating hairs and

hairy and they have educating hairs and

hairy and they have educating hairs and whatever and that is exactly what

whatever and that is exactly what

whatever and that is exactly what happened to how one he just put his

happened to how one he just put his

happened to how one he just put his wetsuit out there on the knees a tree

wetsuit out there on the knees a tree

wetsuit out there on the knees a tree and all the caterpillars fell in and

and all the caterpillars fell in and

and all the caterpillars fell in and lost their hairs and whatever so he got

lost their hairs and whatever so he got

lost their hairs and whatever so he got rid of them just went into his wetsuit

rid of them just went into his wetsuit

rid of them just went into his wetsuit and wanted to do a cave and then

and wanted to do a cave and then

and wanted to do a cave and then everything got irritating in his back

everything got irritating in his back

everything got irritating in his back and painful and it was stinging and it

and painful and it was stinging and it

and painful and it was stinging and it was poisonous and whatever so he had a

was poisonous and whatever so he had a

was poisonous and whatever so he had a really hard time he had to get out of

really hard time he had to get out of

really hard time he had to get out of the cave here to get you finish

the cave here to get you finish

the cave here to get you finish everything it had was really painful the

everything it had was really painful the

everything it had was really painful the porters were laughing at him but then

porters were laughing at him but then

porters were laughing at him but then they realized it was more serious than

they realized it was more serious than

they realized it was more serious than that and he’s in a really awkward

that and he’s in a really awkward

that and he’s in a really awkward situation and has pain and they have to

situation and has pain and they have to

situation and has pain and they have to do something about it and they put him

do something about it and they put him

do something about it and they put him on fire and with a lot of warms after

on fire and with a lot of warms after

on fire and with a lot of warms after eventually after four or five hours the

eventually after four or five hours the

eventually after four or five hours the pain was receding and yeah he had a

pain was receding and yeah he had a

pain was receding and yeah he had a tough time anyway so little stories

tough time anyway so little stories

tough time anyway so little stories besides so but that’s what you

besides so but that’s what you

besides so but that’s what you experience on the experi

experience on the experi

experience on the experi like this but it’s it’s incredible I

like this but it’s it’s incredible I

like this but it’s it’s incredible I mean the variety of butterflies and

mean the variety of butterflies and

mean the variety of butterflies and sometimes they are big like birds and

sometimes they are big like birds and

sometimes they are big like birds and they really surprise you with

they really surprise you with

they really surprise you with IRA’s iridescent wings and really it’s

IRA’s iridescent wings and really it’s

IRA’s iridescent wings and really it’s amazing

so and for cave exploring you have to

so and for cave exploring you have to follow any lead any little fissure and

follow any lead any little fissure and

follow any lead any little fissure and in the beginning it’s quite difficult to

in the beginning it’s quite difficult to

in the beginning it’s quite difficult to find really major systems so you can’t

find really major systems so you can’t

find really major systems so you can’t see it like a mountain you have to you

see it like a mountain you have to you

see it like a mountain you have to you have to crawl into anything which

have to crawl into anything which

have to crawl into anything which what-what is kind of opening and

what-what is kind of opening and

what-what is kind of opening and unfortunately we have been very unhappy

unfortunately we have been very unhappy

unfortunately we have been very unhappy on that trip so there was a lot of

on that trip so there was a lot of

on that trip so there was a lot of effort a lot of walking but without

effort a lot of walking but without

effort a lot of walking but without really the big results so we find only

really the big results so we find only

really the big results so we find only mine while marginal descends so probably

mine while marginal descends so probably

mine while marginal descends so probably if you go further in maybe there are the

if you go further in maybe there are the

if you go further in maybe there are the big systems but you never know exactly

big systems but you never know exactly

big systems but you never know exactly so we had something like 20 meter drops

so we had something like 20 meter drops

so we had something like 20 meter drops and that was it so it was always

and that was it so it was always

and that was it so it was always disappointing on the other hand we we’ve

disappointing on the other hand we we’ve

disappointing on the other hand we we’ve met this kind of people

met this kind of people

met this kind of people it is Fong na ki bong National Park it’s

it is Fong na ki bong National Park it’s

it is Fong na ki bong National Park it’s a World Heritage Site but still there

a World Heritage Site but still there

a World Heritage Site but still there are these illegal loggers and also

are these illegal loggers and also

are these illegal loggers and also illegal hunters so it’s amazing how much

illegal hunters so it’s amazing how much

illegal hunters so it’s amazing how much they carry these are maybe 100 pound man

they carry these are maybe 100 pound man

they carry these are maybe 100 pound man carrying 200 pounds on their back on

carrying 200 pounds on their back on

carrying 200 pounds on their back on this very ragged landscape with their

this very ragged landscape with their

this very ragged landscape with their plastic sandals it’s it’s incredible how

plastic sandals it’s it’s incredible how

plastic sandals it’s it’s incredible how they manage it here on the entrance it’s

they manage it here on the entrance it’s

they manage it here on the entrance it’s like a like a living thing that cave

like a like a living thing that cave

like a like a living thing that cave freezes and has clouds inside so

freezes and has clouds inside so

freezes and has clouds inside so everything comes out and it’s almost

everything comes out and it’s almost

everything comes out and it’s almost like a storm and moves the the leaves

like a storm and moves the the leaves

like a storm and moves the the leaves and yeah it’s a kind of a cold wind and

and yeah it’s a kind of a cold wind and

and yeah it’s a kind of a cold wind and for me as a photograph I it was always

for me as a photograph I it was always

for me as a photograph I it was always kind of tricky to have to deal with so

kind of tricky to have to deal with so

kind of tricky to have to deal with so much fog I didn’t reckon with that and

much fog I didn’t reckon with that and

much fog I didn’t reckon with that and yeah I had to somehow live with that

yeah I had to somehow live with that

yeah I had to somehow live with that because they always always some sort of

because they always always some sort of

because they always always some sort of condensation and it was tricky to get

condensation and it was tricky to get

condensation and it was tricky to get some clear view especially here in the

some clear view especially here in the

some clear view especially here in the entrance there was a lot of condensation

entrance there was a lot of condensation

entrance there was a lot of condensation when the cool air comes out of the cave

when the cool air comes out of the cave

when the cool air comes out of the cave it just it just condensate and well soon

it just it just condensate and well soon

it just it just condensate and well soon in the beginning what I showed now is a

in the beginning what I showed now is a

in the beginning what I showed now is a little

little

little they were already this this beautiful

they were already this this beautiful

they were already this this beautiful and impressive huge stars and I did what

and impressive huge stars and I did what

and impressive huge stars and I did what I could do with illuminating this kind

I could do with illuminating this kind

I could do with illuminating this kind of situations

of situations

of situations despite this fog it was pretty

despite this fog it was pretty

despite this fog it was pretty impressive to to see how how other it

impressive to to see how how other it

impressive to to see how how other it changes with different light settings so

changes with different light settings so

changes with different light settings so I overlaid some images to give you a

I overlaid some images to give you a

I overlaid some images to give you a idea how you can visualize these sort of

idea how you can visualize these sort of

idea how you can visualize these sort of rooms but it was very beautiful entry

rooms but it was very beautiful entry

rooms but it was very beautiful entry and then we come into this huge gallery

and then we come into this huge gallery

and then we come into this huge gallery and this is half a mile away that is

and this is half a mile away that is

and this is half a mile away that is called hand hands of talk and and and

called hand hands of talk and and and

called hand hands of talk and and and after that is the view to the first door

after that is the view to the first door

after that is the view to the first door line which is another half mile away so

line which is another half mile away so

line which is another half mile away so it’s actually one kilometer or 1 1 mile

it’s actually one kilometer or 1 1 mile

it’s actually one kilometer or 1 1 mile towards the towards the opening and you

towards the towards the opening and you

towards the towards the opening and you have this giant giant stalls I mean that

have this giant giant stalls I mean that

have this giant giant stalls I mean that is like more than a 10 story building

is like more than a 10 story building

is like more than a 10 story building this dystonic might and here you have as

this dystonic might and here you have as

this dystonic might and here you have as a comparison a person yeah it’s

a comparison a person yeah it’s

a comparison a person yeah it’s absolutely unbelievable these dimensions

absolutely unbelievable these dimensions

absolutely unbelievable these dimensions and it’s difficult to put that in scale

and it’s difficult to put that in scale

and it’s difficult to put that in scale so now I change the position to exactly

so now I change the position to exactly

so now I change the position to exactly where that man stand and we see in the

where that man stand and we see in the

where that man stand and we see in the back far these little stalls but these

back far these little stalls but these

back far these little stalls but these are the big ones we have seen in just in

are the big ones we have seen in just in

are the big ones we have seen in just in the last frame so it just gives you an

the last frame so it just gives you an

the last frame so it just gives you an idea how big these rooms are and that is

idea how big these rooms are and that is

idea how big these rooms are and that is half a mile to these big stars and we

half a mile to these big stars and we

half a mile to these big stars and we needed like 14 people to light this

needed like 14 people to light this

needed like 14 people to light this gallery that was very very tricky and to

gallery that was very very tricky and to

gallery that was very very tricky and to lighting in that way that the fog

lighting in that way that the fog

lighting in that way that the fog doesn’t reflect the light so it was

doesn’t reflect the light so it was

doesn’t reflect the light so it was pretty challenging to to make that shot

pretty challenging to to make that shot

pretty challenging to to make that shot and we had of course a lot of problems

and we had of course a lot of problems

and we had of course a lot of problems also in terms of communication with

also in terms of communication with

also in terms of communication with there were a lot of Vietnamese you can

there were a lot of Vietnamese you can

there were a lot of Vietnamese you can imagine what what it means to get that

imagine what what it means to get that

imagine what what it means to get that somehow coordinated and with only a low

somehow coordinated and with only a low

somehow coordinated and with only a low number of radios and then it should be

number of radios and then it should be

number of radios and then it should be translated and whatever it was just a

translated and whatever it was just a

translated and whatever it was just a mess

mess

mess and well here we are close now to the

and well here we are close now to the

and well here we are close now to the first sinkhole and it the the pictures

first sinkhole and it the the pictures

first sinkhole and it the the pictures changed from the natural light setting

changed from the natural light setting

changed from the natural light setting towards a little artificial ads which

towards a little artificial ads which

towards a little artificial ads which which shows you how big some of these

which shows you how big some of these

which shows you how big some of these rocks are which are just falling from

rocks are which are just falling from

rocks are which are just falling from the ceiling yeah they are several storey

the ceiling yeah they are several storey

the ceiling yeah they are several storey buildings which just fall from the

buildings which just fall from the

buildings which just fall from the ceiling so these dimensions are really

ceiling so these dimensions are really

ceiling so these dimensions are really unbelievable and then just these little

unbelievable and then just these little

unbelievable and then just these little stalls next to the person you you can

stalls next to the person you you can

stalls next to the person you you can figure out how big it is and then there

figure out how big it is and then there

figure out how big it is and then there was something very very strange what I

was something very very strange what I

was something very very strange what I have never seen before like that it’s

have never seen before like that it’s

have never seen before like that it’s it’s a so-called phyto cost and these

it’s a so-called phyto cost and these

it’s a so-called phyto cost and these are microorganisms who actively yeah

are microorganisms who actively yeah

are microorganisms who actively yeah attract calcite and they grow it’s some

attract calcite and they grow it’s some

attract calcite and they grow it’s some kind of growing stone and this grows

kind of growing stone and this grows

kind of growing stone and this grows towards the light these microorganisms

towards the light these microorganisms

towards the light these microorganisms they built their own castle and their

they built their own castle and their

they built their own castle and their heart shell with rock and and just it’s

heart shell with rock and and just it’s

heart shell with rock and and just it’s growing rock against against light it’s

growing rock against against light it’s

growing rock against against light it’s absolutely amazing so here we have the

absolutely amazing so here we have the

absolutely amazing so here we have the dim light of of the first door line

dim light of of the first door line

dim light of of the first door line again and you see the size of these

again and you see the size of these

again and you see the size of these boulders it’s just massive everything

boulders it’s just massive everything

boulders it’s just massive everything yeah you see a little of the forest on

yeah you see a little of the forest on

yeah you see a little of the forest on the top and they are hanging wines and

the top and they are hanging wines and

the top and they are hanging wines and some look like petrified icicles and

some look like petrified icicles and

some look like petrified icicles and down there you have giant it’s also a

down there you have giant it’s also a

down there you have giant it’s also a fight across stalagmite in a way and

fight across stalagmite in a way and

fight across stalagmite in a way and it’s over and over grown with with this

it’s over and over grown with with this

it’s over and over grown with with this plans and this is the place they called

plans and this is the place they called

plans and this is the place they called watch out for dinosaurs and somehow I

watch out for dinosaurs and somehow I

watch out for dinosaurs and somehow I knew why

knew why

knew why I wouldn’t have wondered if someone

I wouldn’t have wondered if someone

I wouldn’t have wondered if someone looks around the edge and you and roars

looks around the edge and you and roars

looks around the edge and you and roars and there are some crazy sounds too and

and there are some crazy sounds too and

and there are some crazy sounds too and and here you see again this kind of

and here you see again this kind of

and here you see again this kind of rocks

rocks

rocks yeah which which which form around the

yeah which which which form around the

yeah which which which form around the plants and the plants completely adapted

plants and the plants completely adapted

plants and the plants completely adapted to that so it’s it’s it’s rock hard

to that so it’s it’s it’s rock hard

to that so it’s it’s it’s rock hard their stems and yeah very to me very

their stems and yeah very to me very

their stems and yeah very to me very fascinating yeah I would love to know

fascinating yeah I would love to know

fascinating yeah I would love to know the biology behind it here you see

the biology behind it here you see

the biology behind it here you see that’s this massive style in the middle

that’s this massive style in the middle

that’s this massive style in the middle it’s about 200 feet high and all built

it’s about 200 feet high and all built

it’s about 200 feet high and all built up by these microorganisms so in rainy

up by these microorganisms so in rainy

up by these microorganisms so in rainy season there is a waterfall coming or

season there is a waterfall coming or

season there is a waterfall coming or just or if it rains a waterfall coming

just or if it rains a waterfall coming

just or if it rains a waterfall coming down and you see that that this is the

down and you see that that this is the

down and you see that that this is the plant grows which influenced the stone

plant grows which influenced the stone

plant grows which influenced the stone and and this is like like wings like

and and this is like like wings like

and and this is like like wings like fingers which grows towards light it’s

fingers which grows towards light it’s

fingers which grows towards light it’s not like a normal rock formation so that

not like a normal rock formation so that

not like a normal rock formation so that was pretty beautiful and it’s always

was pretty beautiful and it’s always

was pretty beautiful and it’s always like where water comes down where the

like where water comes down where the

like where water comes down where the plants can get the calcite from and then

plants can get the calcite from and then

plants can get the calcite from and then they grow against the light and you have

they grow against the light and you have

they grow against the light and you have really strange formations that is the

really strange formations that is the

really strange formations that is the view from above and you look down in a

view from above and you look down in a

view from above and you look down in a huge gallery that galleries maybe 300

huge gallery that galleries maybe 300

huge gallery that galleries maybe 300 feet high yeah these dimensions are

feet high yeah these dimensions are

feet high yeah these dimensions are exceptional and just to light it it’s

exceptional and just to light it it’s

exceptional and just to light it it’s also a challenge and you have this big

also a challenge and you have this big

also a challenge and you have this big Gower’s in the front and and then you

Gower’s in the front and and then you

Gower’s in the front and and then you have this crazy balconies in this shaft

have this crazy balconies in this shaft

have this crazy balconies in this shaft so these plates they were like six

so these plates they were like six

so these plates they were like six meters that’s maybe 18 feet 20 feet into

meters that’s maybe 18 feet 20 feet into

meters that’s maybe 18 feet 20 feet into into the into the room so these are also

into the into the room so these are also

into the into the room so these are also kind of growing rocks and and all Fano

kind of growing rocks and and all Fano

kind of growing rocks and and all Fano means due to the phyto cost and then we

means due to the phyto cost and then we

means due to the phyto cost and then we we witnessed a thunderstorm going over

we witnessed a thunderstorm going over

we witnessed a thunderstorm going over us and it rumbled and it echoed and

us and it rumbled and it echoed and

us and it rumbled and it echoed and suddenly you hear splashing and rumbling

suddenly you hear splashing and rumbling

suddenly you hear splashing and rumbling and water

and water

and water like water filling pipes and everything

like water filling pipes and everything

like water filling pipes and everything sounded like in another dimension and

sounded like in another dimension and

sounded like in another dimension and suddenly this fighter cost things they

suddenly this fighter cost things they

suddenly this fighter cost things they spit water like yeah and waterfalls came

spit water like yeah and waterfalls came

spit water like yeah and waterfalls came out and I reacted fast to arrange for

out and I reacted fast to arrange for

out and I reacted fast to arrange for shots and who knows how long it takes

shots and who knows how long it takes

shots and who knows how long it takes but that was pretty amazing to find

but that was pretty amazing to find

but that was pretty amazing to find suddenly these waterfalls normally it

suddenly these waterfalls normally it

suddenly these waterfalls normally it should frighten you because I mean to

should frighten you because I mean to

should frighten you because I mean to have a water break in like this it’s

have a water break in like this it’s

have a water break in like this it’s almost or in a cave or always quite

almost or in a cave or always quite

almost or in a cave or always quite dangerous but this cave is so big that

dangerous but this cave is so big that

dangerous but this cave is so big that you don’t need to be afraid that the

you don’t need to be afraid that the

you don’t need to be afraid that the water can kind of close you in or that

water can kind of close you in or that

water can kind of close you in or that you might drown or whatever so was not

you might drown or whatever so was not

you might drown or whatever so was not the issue but it was overwhelming I mean

the issue but it was overwhelming I mean

the issue but it was overwhelming I mean you could imagine the noise I mean it

you could imagine the noise I mean it

you could imagine the noise I mean it was splashing it was roaring and it was

was splashing it was roaring and it was

was splashing it was roaring and it was yeah very loud difficult to communicate

yeah very loud difficult to communicate

yeah very loud difficult to communicate difficult to tell what what to do and

difficult to tell what what to do and

difficult to tell what what to do and how to light and whatever so it was a

how to light and whatever so it was a

how to light and whatever so it was a jump running jumping and fast reactions

jump running jumping and fast reactions

jump running jumping and fast reactions so and now you see how I deal with the

so and now you see how I deal with the

so and now you see how I deal with the light and I give you some different

light and I give you some different

light and I give you some different ideas how this giant phyto cast how I

ideas how this giant phyto cast how I

ideas how this giant phyto cast how I looked like in different lighted

looked like in different lighted

looked like in different lighted situations so we have some underwater

situations so we have some underwater

situations so we have some underwater lights and above water light and and

lights and above water light and and

lights and above water light and and effectively it was a quite misty day as

effectively it was a quite misty day as

effectively it was a quite misty day as usual and quite tricky to get something

usual and quite tricky to get something

usual and quite tricky to get something and just that you get the relation on

and just that you get the relation on

and just that you get the relation on top of this huge Tower of phyto cost

top of this huge Tower of phyto cost

top of this huge Tower of phyto cost there standing a person it’s just

there standing a person it’s just

there standing a person it’s just enormous as always always incredible to

enormous as always always incredible to

enormous as always always incredible to realize these dimensions you know and

realize these dimensions you know and

realize these dimensions you know and then we are walking through that gallery

then we are walking through that gallery

then we are walking through that gallery and we coming into this dim range of the

and we coming into this dim range of the

and we coming into this dim range of the next of the next door line which is

next of the next door line which is

next of the next door line which is called Garden of Eden

called Garden of Eden

called Garden of Eden and also there we can see this low-light

and also there we can see this low-light

and also there we can see this low-light formations with this vitacost formations

formations with this vitacost formations

formations with this vitacost formations where some mosses and whatever grow

where some mosses and whatever grow

where some mosses and whatever grow against the light

against the light

against the light yeah very beautiful and the further you

yeah very beautiful and the further you

yeah very beautiful and the further you get into that dole line the crazy of

get into that dole line the crazy of

get into that dole line the crazy of these shapes get and here we see again

these shapes get and here we see again

these shapes get and here we see again some microorganisms forming and growing

some microorganisms forming and growing

some microorganisms forming and growing towards the light

towards the light

towards the light here we see this whitish areas that is

here we see this whitish areas that is

here we see this whitish areas that is where the microorganisms grow against

where the microorganisms grow against

where the microorganisms grow against the light and that’s the natural light

the light and that’s the natural light

the light and that’s the natural light and then I I front lit the same

and then I I front lit the same

and then I I front lit the same situation and you see now where the

situation and you see now where the

situation and you see now where the chlorophyll is and where the receptive

chlorophyll is and where the receptive

chlorophyll is and where the receptive areas are for for photosynthesis here

areas are for for photosynthesis here

areas are for for photosynthesis here the same in a detail it looks like the

the same in a detail it looks like the

the same in a detail it looks like the surface of Mars

surface of Mars

surface of Mars it looks so extraterrestrial that this

it looks so extraterrestrial that this

it looks so extraterrestrial that this is done with natural light by the way

is done with natural light by the way

is done with natural light by the way and if I add front light it looks like

and if I add front light it looks like

and if I add front light it looks like that yeah it’s a really really crazy

that yeah it’s a really really crazy

that yeah it’s a really really crazy formation so I I love to explore this

formation so I I love to explore this

formation so I I love to explore this type of things you know area why I have

type of things you know area why I have

type of things you know area why I have never heard anything about it or seen

never heard anything about it or seen

never heard anything about it or seen anything about it and you stumble about

anything about it and you stumble about

anything about it and you stumble about this the beginning I couldn’t believe it

this the beginning I couldn’t believe it

this the beginning I couldn’t believe it I mean it was rock hard stem and there

I mean it was rock hard stem and there

I mean it was rock hard stem and there was this little fan on top and it looks

was this little fan on top and it looks

was this little fan on top and it looks like it’s growing on pavement it’s rock

like it’s growing on pavement it’s rock

like it’s growing on pavement it’s rock everything is rock the stem is rock and

everything is rock the stem is rock and

everything is rock the stem is rock and there is little green I mean it looks

there is little green I mean it looks

there is little green I mean it looks like fossils like you really like the

like fossils like you really like the

like fossils like you really like the Jurassic on but it’s green on top and

Jurassic on but it’s green on top and

Jurassic on but it’s green on top and it’s not petrified it’s living and

it’s not petrified it’s living and

it’s not petrified it’s living and obviously living very well there

yeah that’s that’s a relative to the

yeah that’s that’s a relative to the nettle to it’s a boutique ax which is

nettle to it’s a boutique ax which is

nettle to it’s a boutique ax which is kind of strange because it doesn’t look

kind of strange because it doesn’t look

kind of strange because it doesn’t look at all similar and then you have this

at all similar and then you have this

at all similar and then you have this communities so of in the phyto cars so

communities so of in the phyto cars so

communities so of in the phyto cars so all these different colors are light

all these different colors are light

all these different colors are light green dark green

green dark green

green dark green redish that is all related to a

redish that is all related to a

redish that is all related to a different micro organism and it would be

different micro organism and it would be

different micro organism and it would be really nice to do a biological research

really nice to do a biological research

really nice to do a biological research to determine what kind of organisms are

to determine what kind of organisms are

to determine what kind of organisms are able to capable to do that and maybe it

able to capable to do that and maybe it

able to capable to do that and maybe it would be interesting for science because

would be interesting for science because

would be interesting for science because maybe they are very light receptive and

maybe they are very light receptive and

maybe they are very light receptive and who knows what you can I don’t know

who knows what you can I don’t know

who knows what you can I don’t know couldn’t can use that so it would be

couldn’t can use that so it would be

couldn’t can use that so it would be really nice to to do some more

really nice to to do some more

really nice to to do some more exploration there and this is how Garden

exploration there and this is how Garden

exploration there and this is how Garden of edom looks like so we have a forest

of edom looks like so we have a forest

of edom looks like so we have a forest inside the cave which is incredible and

inside the cave which is incredible and

inside the cave which is incredible and we have this you try to cost yeah

we have this you try to cost yeah

we have this you try to cost yeah stalagmites in front and then a jungle

stalagmites in front and then a jungle

stalagmites in front and then a jungle it is kind of strange that we had a

it is kind of strange that we had a

it is kind of strange that we had a botanist with us and he looked for maybe

botanist with us and he looked for maybe

botanist with us and he looked for maybe new plants he couldn’t find any but

new plants he couldn’t find any but

new plants he couldn’t find any but every every plan is kind of informed in

every every plan is kind of informed in

every every plan is kind of informed in a different way so that’s that’s him

a different way so that’s that’s him

a different way so that’s that’s him researching the plants and especially

researching the plants and especially

researching the plants and especially the trees they grow slim they don’t have

the trees they grow slim they don’t have

the trees they grow slim they don’t have much light like above and they are tall

much light like above and they are tall

much light like above and they are tall maybe 100 feet tall but very slim and

maybe 100 feet tall but very slim and

maybe 100 feet tall but very slim and and tender and it’s it’s a really well

and tender and it’s it’s a really well

and tender and it’s it’s a really well interesting environment which is kind of

interesting environment which is kind of

interesting environment which is kind of different so they call it morphological

different so they call it morphological

different so they call it morphological plasticity or phenotypic plasticity that

plasticity or phenotypic plasticity that

plasticity or phenotypic plasticity that these plants shape different so it’s not

these plants shape different so it’s not

these plants shape different so it’s not genetically and this is a little

genetically and this is a little

genetically and this is a little impactions with a little fruit fly on it

impactions with a little fruit fly on it

impactions with a little fruit fly on it so even you find even flowers there it

so even you find even flowers there it

so even you find even flowers there it was really overwhelming experience to

was really overwhelming experience to

was really overwhelming experience to see that and to live in that time and

see that and to live in that time and

see that and to live in that time and and also the way back there I mean when

and also the way back there I mean when

and also the way back there I mean when it when it was night I mean we hear this

it when it was night I mean we hear this

it when it was night I mean we hear this kind of strange noises it was a big flat

kind of strange noises it was a big flat

kind of strange noises it was a big flat and it was echoing everywhere it was

and it was echoing everywhere it was

and it was echoing everywhere it was really loud for her we couldn’t imagine

really loud for her we couldn’t imagine

really loud for her we couldn’t imagine what it is I mean we would have thought

what it is I mean we would have thought

what it is I mean we would have thought it’s maybe a pterodactyl is like a

it’s maybe a pterodactyl is like a

it’s maybe a pterodactyl is like a flying sorrows or something like that

flying sorrows or something like that

flying sorrows or something like that but then we we thought maybe it’s a big

but then we we thought maybe it’s a big

but then we we thought maybe it’s a big old but we never saw it we always

old but we never saw it we always

old but we never saw it we always listened to it and it sounded so loud

listened to it and it sounded so loud

listened to it and it sounded so loud and so well you could imagine anything

and so well you could imagine anything

and so well you could imagine anything to that so it was a very very very weird

to that so it was a very very very weird

to that so it was a very very very weird environment and you yeah you are

environment and you yeah you are

environment and you yeah you are yeah to me it was really yeah incredible

yeah to me it was really yeah incredible

yeah to me it was really yeah incredible to witness that

the situation there in this shaft was

the situation there in this shaft was extraordinary sunlight was hitting the

extraordinary sunlight was hitting the

extraordinary sunlight was hitting the ground it was humid and whole clouds

ground it was humid and whole clouds

ground it was humid and whole clouds were rising and it was like climbing

were rising and it was like climbing

were rising and it was like climbing through the skies climbing through the

through the skies climbing through the

through the skies climbing through the heaven and you are in midst of these

heaven and you are in midst of these

heaven and you are in midst of these cloud formations that was really

cloud formations that was really

cloud formations that was really something very very special and amazing

something very very special and amazing

something very very special and amazing to me I mean you’re like in midst well

to me I mean you’re like in midst well

to me I mean you’re like in midst well in midst the heaven captured in a cave

in midst the heaven captured in a cave

in midst the heaven captured in a cave so this was really unusual to just enjoy

so this was really unusual to just enjoy

so this was really unusual to just enjoy and this is how you feel after a trip

and this is how you feel after a trip

and this is how you feel after a trip like this

like this

like this I mean you are worn out and everyone is

I mean you are worn out and everyone is

I mean you are worn out and everyone is kind of done and and and these are the

kind of done and and and these are the

kind of done and and and these are the real stars of our expedition the porters

real stars of our expedition the porters

real stars of our expedition the porters they were amazing and without them it

they were amazing and without them it

they were amazing and without them it would have been impossible and there is

would have been impossible and there is

would have been impossible and there is a big thanks to them big thanks to

a big thanks to them big thanks to

a big thanks to them big thanks to National Geographic vixx thanks to the

National Geographic vixx thanks to the

National Geographic vixx thanks to the British cave Research Association and

British cave Research Association and

British cave Research Association and all the team thank you very much to you

all the team thank you very much to you

all the team thank you very much to you as well

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