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the three of us are all very happy to be

the three of us are all very happy to be here we wanted to thank National

here we wanted to thank National

here we wanted to thank National Geographic for having us it’s always an

Geographic for having us it’s always an

Geographic for having us it’s always an honor to speak here but I first read

honor to speak here but I first read

honor to speak here but I first read about Marc probably close to twenty

about Marc probably close to twenty

about Marc probably close to twenty years ago Marc’s been exploring the

years ago Marc’s been exploring the

years ago Marc’s been exploring the world for a long time and I consider him

world for a long time and I consider him

world for a long time and I consider him probably one of the most prolific

probably one of the most prolific

probably one of the most prolific exploratory rock climbers out there he’s

exploratory rock climbers out there he’s

exploratory rock climbers out there he’s basically scoured the earth in search of

basically scoured the earth in search of

basically scoured the earth in search of rock climbing and some of the most

rock climbing and some of the most

rock climbing and some of the most difficult situations I’ve been in have

difficult situations I’ve been in have

difficult situations I’ve been in have actually been on trips with Marc

actually been on trips with Marc

actually been on trips with Marc obviously Alex and I have done a bit of

obviously Alex and I have done a bit of

obviously Alex and I have done a bit of work together it’s kind of a symbiotic

work together it’s kind of a symbiotic

work together it’s kind of a symbiotic relationship between athletes and

relationship between athletes and

relationship between athletes and photographers and this is the cover

photographers and this is the cover

photographers and this is the cover story that we shot together and you know

story that we shot together and you know

story that we shot together and you know a lot of people think he’s just

a lot of people think he’s just

a lot of people think he’s just straight-up crazy and I spend a lot of

straight-up crazy and I spend a lot of

straight-up crazy and I spend a lot of time defending him and saying he’s not

time defending him and saying he’s not

time defending him and saying he’s not crazy he’s actually just a very very

crazy he’s actually just a very very

crazy he’s actually just a very very talented climber and there’s a reason

talented climber and there’s a reason

talented climber and there’s a reason why all have Alex’s friends call him no

why all have Alex’s friends call him no

why all have Alex’s friends call him no big deal Honnold because there’s

big deal Honnold because there’s

big deal Honnold because there’s absolutely nothing that he does that he

absolutely nothing that he does that he

absolutely nothing that he does that he thinks is a big deal so everything that

thinks is a big deal so everything that

thinks is a big deal so everything that he says multiplied by a factor of

he says multiplied by a factor of

he says multiplied by a factor of approximately 5 3 to 5 and then Mark who

approximately 5 3 to 5 and then Mark who

approximately 5 3 to 5 and then Mark who I know is going to tell some stories

I know is going to tell some stories

I know is going to tell some stories about me

about me

about me he’s year after / I was gonna pick /

he’s year after / I was gonna pick /

he’s year after / I was gonna pick / reason ok so that’s how I’m gonna set

reason ok so that’s how I’m gonna set

reason ok so that’s how I’m gonna set the stage here you go mark

the stage here you go mark

the stage here you go mark thank you thank you Jimmy well Jimmy is

thank you thank you Jimmy well Jimmy is

thank you thank you Jimmy well Jimmy is a very modest guy and um you know you

a very modest guy and um you know you

a very modest guy and um you know you notice that he didn’t really say a whole

notice that he didn’t really say a whole

notice that he didn’t really say a whole lot about himself there but you know he

lot about himself there but you know he

lot about himself there but you know he is also a world-class athlete in his own

is also a world-class athlete in his own

is also a world-class athlete in his own right but really makes Jimmy so special

right but really makes Jimmy so special

right but really makes Jimmy so special is the fact that he has the camera with

is the fact that he has the camera with

is the fact that he has the camera with him when he’s doing this stuff

him when he’s doing this stuff

him when he’s doing this stuff and he’s he’s usually the first call

and he’s he’s usually the first call

and he’s he’s usually the first call that I make when I come up with with one

that I make when I come up with with one

that I make when I come up with with one of these ideas and when Alex had I guess

of these ideas and when Alex had I guess

of these ideas and when Alex had I guess what they’re called the greatest rookie

what they’re called the greatest rookie

what they’re called the greatest rookie season ever in Yosemite National Park by

season ever in Yosemite National Park by

season ever in Yosemite National Park by free soloing all these big walls a lot

free soloing all these big walls a lot

free soloing all these big walls a lot of things started happening for Alex one

of things started happening for Alex one

of things started happening for Alex one of which was that he got invited to join

of which was that he got invited to join

of which was that he got invited to join the North Face climbing team and Jimmy

the North Face climbing team and Jimmy

the North Face climbing team and Jimmy and I were already on that team and I

and I were already on that team and I

and I were already on that team and I had this trip to Lowe’s gully and in

had this trip to Lowe’s gully and in

had this trip to Lowe’s gully and in Borneo and Alex had just joined the team

Borneo and Alex had just joined the team

Borneo and Alex had just joined the team and so my boss at the North Face she

and so my boss at the North Face she

and so my boss at the North Face she said hey I got an idea what do you think

said hey I got an idea what do you think

said hey I got an idea what do you think about inviting Alex Honnold on your trip

about inviting Alex Honnold on your trip

about inviting Alex Honnold on your trip and my initial reaction was like wow wow

and my initial reaction was like wow wow

and my initial reaction was like wow wow that sounds like a really bad idea like

that sounds like a really bad idea like

that sounds like a really bad idea like I like to climb with a rope and this guy

I like to climb with a rope and this guy

I like to climb with a rope and this guy seems really crazy like we’re not really

seems really crazy like we’re not really

seems really crazy like we’re not really on the same page

on the same page

on the same page you know but we are pro climbers and and

you know but we are pro climbers and and

you know but we are pro climbers and and I remember my boss saying something like

I remember my boss saying something like

I remember my boss saying something like look you know I’d really appreciate it

look you know I’d really appreciate it

look you know I’d really appreciate it if you invited Alex and I and I like

if you invited Alex and I and I like

if you invited Alex and I and I like thought about it and I was like okay I

thought about it and I was like okay I

thought about it and I was like okay I gotcha I’m like he’s in and so we we

gotcha I’m like he’s in and so we we

gotcha I’m like he’s in and so we we brought Alex along and it was his first

brought Alex along and it was his first

brought Alex along and it was his first expedition my goal here is sort of just

expedition my goal here is sort of just

expedition my goal here is sort of just a free climb as much as I can so that

a free climb as much as I can so that

a free climb as much as I can so that means that I come just behind everybody

means that I come just behind everybody

means that I come just behind everybody as long as I’m actually climbing that’s

as long as I’m actually climbing that’s

as long as I’m actually climbing that’s more important to me than than pushing

more important to me than than pushing

more important to me than than pushing our high point when Alex Honnold was

our high point when Alex Honnold was

our high point when Alex Honnold was somebody that I didn’t know it’s really

somebody that I didn’t know it’s really

somebody that I didn’t know it’s really interesting dynamic mentorship teach

interesting dynamic mentorship teach

interesting dynamic mentorship teach them you know how we go about doing

them you know how we go about doing

them you know how we go about doing these types of pioneering first ascents

these types of pioneering first ascents

these types of pioneering first ascents but I’m learning a lot of stuff from him

but I’m learning a lot of stuff from him

but I’m learning a lot of stuff from him too because he’s such an amazingly

too because he’s such an amazingly

too because he’s such an amazingly talented climber over the years is like

talented climber over the years is like

talented climber over the years is like the longer that I’ve climbed kind of the

the longer that I’ve climbed kind of the

the longer that I’ve climbed kind of the more cautious I become every year I kind

more cautious I become every year I kind

more cautious I become every year I kind of reel it in a little more and a little

of reel it in a little more and a little

of reel it in a little more and a little more a little more

more a little more

more a little more now I’m going out with this guy who’s

now I’m going out with this guy who’s

now I’m going out with this guy who’s kind of like the opposite of that

kind of like the opposite of that

kind of like the opposite of that he’s like letting the line out letting

he’s like letting the line out letting

he’s like letting the line out letting it out or more a little more it’s it’s

it out or more a little more it’s it’s

it out or more a little more it’s it’s it’s been good and that it’s it’s

it’s been good and that it’s it’s

it’s been good and that it’s it’s helping me to realize you’re like I

helping me to realize you’re like I

helping me to realize you’re like I can’t reel it in too much crazy location

can’t reel it in too much crazy location

can’t reel it in too much crazy location where your thousand feet off the ground

where your thousand feet off the ground

where your thousand feet off the ground in the middle of nowhere like you kind

in the middle of nowhere like you kind

in the middle of nowhere like you kind of have to go for it in this sport

of have to go for it in this sport

of have to go for it in this sport there’s a little scary around leaders

there’s a little scary around leaders

there’s a little scary around leaders from the sick about preserving your

from the sick about preserving your

from the sick about preserving your safety and all that I try so hard but at

safety and all that I try so hard but at

safety and all that I try so hard but at the same time kind of preserving like

the same time kind of preserving like

the same time kind of preserving like that fit that spirit of adventure and

that fit that spirit of adventure and

that fit that spirit of adventure and going for it which is right at the

going for it which is right at the

going for it which is right at the essence one over yeah dude

you didn’t even get pumped I don’t know

you didn’t even get pumped I don’t know I’m numb doubt though listen how it’s

I’m numb doubt though listen how it’s

I’m numb doubt though listen how it’s almost become a tradition every year

almost become a tradition every year

almost become a tradition every year mark comes up with some crazy trip and

mark comes up with some crazy trip and

mark comes up with some crazy trip and the next year we went to Chad which are

the next year we went to Chad which are

the next year we went to Chad which are these photos just the middle of the

these photos just the middle of the

these photos just the middle of the desert the middle of nowhere

desert the middle of nowhere

desert the middle of nowhere climbing remote towers you know super

climbing remote towers you know super

climbing remote towers you know super exotic like cultural experience to get

exotic like cultural experience to get

exotic like cultural experience to get there crazy climbing really kind of

there crazy climbing really kind of

there crazy climbing really kind of exciting well this was a kind of a

exciting well this was a kind of a

exciting well this was a kind of a unique destination and this place is

unique destination and this place is

unique destination and this place is called the Nettie plateau it’s on the

called the Nettie plateau it’s on the

called the Nettie plateau it’s on the edge of the Sahara Desert I found out

edge of the Sahara Desert I found out

edge of the Sahara Desert I found out about it just from like a rumor that I

about it just from like a rumor that I

about it just from like a rumor that I heard when I was in Cameroon and then I

heard when I was in Cameroon and then I

heard when I was in Cameroon and then I did a search on Google Earth which is

did a search on Google Earth which is

did a search on Google Earth which is how I found the Annette e and the

how I found the Annette e and the

how I found the Annette e and the Annette E is basically like the

Annette E is basically like the

Annette E is basically like the Canyonlands desert in Utah

Canyonlands desert in Utah

Canyonlands desert in Utah except that had never been visited by

except that had never been visited by

except that had never been visited by climbers before and so we that’s what we

climbers before and so we that’s what we

climbers before and so we that’s what we did when we were there as we went and we

did when we were there as we went and we

did when we were there as we went and we we sought out the best towers like this

we sought out the best towers like this

we sought out the best towers like this one that you’re looking at right here

one that you’re looking at right here

one that you’re looking at right here which is called the wine bottle so we’re

which is called the wine bottle so we’re

which is called the wine bottle so we’re we’re traveling out here we’re in the

we’re traveling out here we’re in the

we’re traveling out here we’re in the nettie we’re in the middle of nowhere

nettie we’re in the middle of nowhere

nettie we’re in the middle of nowhere and we’re scoping out this one tower

and we’re scoping out this one tower

and we’re scoping out this one tower we’re looking at it we’re trying to

we’re looking at it we’re trying to

we’re looking at it we’re trying to figure out which way we’re going to go

figure out which way we’re going to go

figure out which way we’re going to go up and all of a sudden these guys just

up and all of a sudden these guys just

up and all of a sudden these guys just sort of materialized out of the rocks

sort of materialized out of the rocks

sort of materialized out of the rocks none of us were really expecting to see

none of us were really expecting to see

none of us were really expecting to see anybody at this point and they were

anybody at this point and they were

anybody at this point and they were there to rob us I don’t think there’s

there to rob us I don’t think there’s

there to rob us I don’t think there’s any doubt about that that got one of the

any doubt about that that got one of the

any doubt about that that got one of the packs right off that had you know ten

packs right off that had you know ten

packs right off that had you know ten thousand dollars worth of camera gear in

thousand dollars worth of camera gear in

thousand dollars worth of camera gear in it and it was Renault’s Turks pack and

it and it was Renault’s Turks pack and

it and it was Renault’s Turks pack and run on like God in a tug of war with the

run on like God in a tug of war with the

run on like God in a tug of war with the Bandit which I think most of us thought

Bandit which I think most of us thought

Bandit which I think most of us thought was kind of insane because this guy had

was kind of insane because this guy had

was kind of insane because this guy had a dagger with this other hand Renan was

a dagger with this other hand Renan was

a dagger with this other hand Renan was filming the robbery and which is where

filming the robbery and which is where

filming the robbery and which is where this photo comes from if if you’ve ever

this photo comes from if if you’ve ever

this photo comes from if if you’ve ever been attacked by bandits you’ll know

been attacked by bandits you’ll know

been attacked by bandits you’ll know they don’t like being filmed while

they don’t like being filmed while

they don’t like being filmed while they’re robbing you

they’re robbing you

they’re robbing you so this would be one of those times

so this would be one of those times

so this would be one of those times where you get kind of like the instinct

where you get kind of like the instinct

where you get kind of like the instinct for fight or flight and so for me you

for fight or flight and so for me you

for fight or flight and so for me you know I was thinking all right I’m gonna

know I was thinking all right I’m gonna

know I was thinking all right I’m gonna run away from here very fast and I was

run away from here very fast and I was

run away from here very fast and I was right about to take off when I look over

right about to take off when I look over

right about to take off when I look over and I see Jimmy pick up a small boulder

and I see Jimmy pick up a small boulder

and I see Jimmy pick up a small boulder and hold it up over his head as if he

and hold it up over his head as if he

and hold it up over his head as if he was cro-magnon man and I thought to

was cro-magnon man and I thought to

was cro-magnon man and I thought to myself to her to Jimmy you know first of

myself to her to Jimmy you know first of

myself to her to Jimmy you know first of all I don’t think of rocks gonna do a

all I don’t think of rocks gonna do a

all I don’t think of rocks gonna do a whole lot right now and now I don’t feel

whole lot right now and now I don’t feel

whole lot right now and now I don’t feel that good about running away because

that good about running away because

that good about running away because Jimmy has decided he’s gonna fight and

Jimmy has decided he’s gonna fight and

Jimmy has decided he’s gonna fight and I’m very loyal to my friends so I said

I’m very loyal to my friends so I said

I’m very loyal to my friends so I said to myself okay here’s how it’s gonna

to myself okay here’s how it’s gonna

to myself okay here’s how it’s gonna work mark I’m gonna look down at my foot

work mark I’m gonna look down at my foot

work mark I’m gonna look down at my foot if I see anything down there that could

if I see anything down there that could

if I see anything down there that could that could serve as a weapon I’m back in

that could serve as a weapon I’m back in

that could serve as a weapon I’m back in Jimmy up if there’s nothing there I’m

Jimmy up if there’s nothing there I’m

Jimmy up if there’s nothing there I’m gonna run and I look down and darn it

gonna run and I look down and darn it

gonna run and I look down and darn it leaning against my foot is like this

leaning against my foot is like this

leaning against my foot is like this gnarled Club we ang was like the biggest

gnarled Club we ang was like the biggest

gnarled Club we ang was like the biggest piece of wood in the entire nettie

piece of wood in the entire nettie

piece of wood in the entire nettie desert didn’t he picked it up it but you

desert didn’t he picked it up it but you

desert didn’t he picked it up it but you can see a lot of wood the thing is that

can see a lot of wood the thing is that

can see a lot of wood the thing is that these these bandits that he’s talking

these these bandits that he’s talking

these these bandits that he’s talking about really were like fourteen-year-old

about really were like fourteen-year-old

about really were like fourteen-year-old boys and they were like half our size

boys and they were like half our size

boys and they were like half our size like you really mark is like an ogre

like you really mark is like an ogre

like you really mark is like an ogre compared to them he’s holding a club

compared to them he’s holding a club

compared to them he’s holding a club that’s like as big as their entire body

that’s like as big as their entire body

that’s like as big as their entire body anyway there were five of us and we were

anyway there were five of us and we were

anyway there were five of us and we were twice as big as them and then it’s like

twice as big as them and then it’s like

twice as big as them and then it’s like three punk kids with like this little

three punk kids with like this little

three punk kids with like this little tiny not really like it’s not okay can I

tiny not really like it’s not okay can I

tiny not really like it’s not okay can I get a story

get a story

get a story over there to be fair though they

over there to be fair though they

over there to be fair though they probably looked like half our size and

probably looked like half our size and

probably looked like half our size and punk kids from a hundred yards away

punk kids from a hundred yards away

punk kids from a hundred yards away where you were standing all I saw was

where you were standing all I saw was

where you were standing all I saw was mark yeah anyway well it’s true when we

mark yeah anyway well it’s true when we

mark yeah anyway well it’s true when we had the final faceoff with the guys I

had the final faceoff with the guys I

had the final faceoff with the guys I didn’t see Alex there it was me and

didn’t see Alex there it was me and

didn’t see Alex there it was me and Jimmy and I had the club and and Jimmy

Jimmy and I had the club and and Jimmy

Jimmy and I had the club and and Jimmy had the rock so they put the stuff down

had the rock so they put the stuff down

had the rock so they put the stuff down and they basically disappeared back into

and they basically disappeared back into

and they basically disappeared back into the rocks one guy actually had Jimmy

the rocks one guy actually had Jimmy

the rocks one guy actually had Jimmy sunglasses and he could have kept those

sunglasses and he could have kept those

sunglasses and he could have kept those but he gave them back and that was a

but he gave them back and that was a

but he gave them back and that was a great adventure for us and you know we

great adventure for us and you know we

great adventure for us and you know we we the three of us you know and these

we the three of us you know and these

we the three of us you know and these other people we team up with we we make

other people we team up with we we make

other people we team up with we we make a good team and and so I think I’m the

a good team and and so I think I’m the

a good team and and so I think I’m the one who’s you know sort of supposed to

one who’s you know sort of supposed to

one who’s you know sort of supposed to find where we’re gonna go next and I do

find where we’re gonna go next and I do

find where we’re gonna go next and I do a lot of my research in places like

a lot of my research in places like

a lot of my research in places like National Geographic magazine that was

National Geographic magazine that was

National Geographic magazine that was how I found out about the moose and Dawn

how I found out about the moose and Dawn

how I found out about the moose and Dawn Peninsula there was just a little

Peninsula there was just a little

Peninsula there was just a little mention of it like a one-sentence thing

mention of it like a one-sentence thing

mention of it like a one-sentence thing that said moose and Dom Peninsula and

that said moose and Dom Peninsula and

that said moose and Dom Peninsula and that was really all I need and then I

that was really all I need and then I

that was really all I need and then I went from there and I started searching

went from there and I started searching

went from there and I started searching and looking on Google Earth this is the

and looking on Google Earth this is the

and looking on Google Earth this is the map that’s actually in the article and

map that’s actually in the article and

map that’s actually in the article and this is what inspired me was when I saw

this is what inspired me was when I saw

this is what inspired me was when I saw the topography here and they call this

the topography here and they call this

the topography here and they call this the Norway of the Persian Gulf

the Norway of the Persian Gulf

the Norway of the Persian Gulf there’s fjords with giant cliffs coming

there’s fjords with giant cliffs coming

there’s fjords with giant cliffs coming out of the ocean the unique thing about

out of the ocean the unique thing about

out of the ocean the unique thing about this place is the only way that you can

this place is the only way that you can

this place is the only way that you can really explore it effectively is by boat

really explore it effectively is by boat

really explore it effectively is by boat and so I came up with the idea that we

and so I came up with the idea that we

and so I came up with the idea that we would charter a boat and that we would

would charter a boat and that we would

would charter a boat and that we would use the boat as our way to access all

use the boat as our way to access all

use the boat as our way to access all these different fjords and to explore

these different fjords and to explore

these different fjords and to explore and have a you know camp that we could

and have a you know camp that we could

and have a you know camp that we could come back to the Jimmy’s going to talk a

come back to the Jimmy’s going to talk a

come back to the Jimmy’s going to talk a little bit about what happened next well

little bit about what happened next well

little bit about what happened next well nothing terrible but of course you know

nothing terrible but of course you know

nothing terrible but of course you know being on a trip with Mark I expected to

being on a trip with Mark I expected to

being on a trip with Mark I expected to both

both

both or something else like that but I’m

or something else like that but I’m

or something else like that but I’m everywhere you looked with these

everywhere you looked with these

everywhere you looked with these beautiful fjords and beautiful limestone

beautiful fjords and beautiful limestone

beautiful fjords and beautiful limestone walls and these beautiful villages kind

walls and these beautiful villages kind

walls and these beautiful villages kind of tucked into the ends of these fjords

of tucked into the ends of these fjords

of tucked into the ends of these fjords and you know we would be hiking up these

and you know we would be hiking up these

and you know we would be hiking up these incredible incredible mountains right

incredible incredible mountains right

incredible incredible mountains right above the ocean and it was really really

above the ocean and it was really really

above the ocean and it was really really spectacular you know you’d be going

spectacular you know you’d be going

spectacular you know you’d be going along and on the boat and you’d

along and on the boat and you’d

along and on the boat and you’d literally be able to point towards

literally be able to point towards

literally be able to point towards something you’d be like wow that looks

something you’d be like wow that looks

something you’d be like wow that looks like an amazing climb or that looks like

like an amazing climb or that looks like

like an amazing climb or that looks like an amazing mountain and we would sail up

an amazing mountain and we would sail up

an amazing mountain and we would sail up and anchor and then be able to go climb

and anchor and then be able to go climb

and anchor and then be able to go climb these things of course you know and

these things of course you know and

these things of course you know and Aleks and the other climber on the team

Aleks and the other climber on the team

Aleks and the other climber on the team was hazel and they wanted to go do a

was hazel and they wanted to go do a

was hazel and they wanted to go do a route and then run on and Mark went to

route and then run on and Mark went to

route and then run on and Mark went to do a route and Mikey Schafer who is my

do a route and Mikey Schafer who is my

do a route and Mikey Schafer who is my assistant on the project and an

assistant on the project and an

assistant on the project and an incredible climber and great friend as

incredible climber and great friend as

incredible climber and great friend as well we were going to do a route so you

well we were going to do a route so you

well we were going to do a route so you know we were on this wall and about a

know we were on this wall and about a

know we were on this wall and about a thousand feet up the wall Mikey pulls

thousand feet up the wall Mikey pulls

thousand feet up the wall Mikey pulls off this rock and it’s hurtling at me

off this rock and it’s hurtling at me

off this rock and it’s hurtling at me and basically about 50 feet above my

and basically about 50 feet above my

and basically about 50 feet above my head it explodes and hits the wall you

head it explodes and hits the wall you

head it explodes and hits the wall you know Mike he’s like hey you okay and I’m

know Mike he’s like hey you okay and I’m

know Mike he’s like hey you okay and I’m like yeah I’m fine and he continues

like yeah I’m fine and he continues

like yeah I’m fine and he continues climbing he climbs around the corner and

climbing he climbs around the corner and

climbing he climbs around the corner and I don’t see him and I wait for about

I don’t see him and I wait for about

I don’t see him and I wait for about half an hour and the Rope just hasn’t

half an hour and the Rope just hasn’t

half an hour and the Rope just hasn’t moved and I thought well I guess he’s

moved and I thought well I guess he’s

moved and I thought well I guess he’s probably stopped and just setting

probably stopped and just setting

probably stopped and just setting something up and but about half an hour

something up and but about half an hour

something up and but about half an hour later I hear him yell hey Jimmy I’m off

later I hear him yell hey Jimmy I’m off

later I hear him yell hey Jimmy I’m off belay which means that he’s climbed up

belay which means that he’s climbed up

belay which means that he’s climbed up to a point

to a point

to a point built an anchor anchored himself into

built an anchor anchored himself into

built an anchor anchored himself into the wall and now I can take him off

the wall and now I can take him off

the wall and now I can take him off belay and so I yell okay you’re off

belay and so I yell okay you’re off

belay and so I yell okay you’re off belay and I take my rope out of the

belay and I take my rope out of the

belay and I take my rope out of the belay device and I wait for about five

belay device and I wait for about five

belay device and I wait for about five minutes and I hear this blood-curdling

minutes and I hear this blood-curdling

minutes and I hear this blood-curdling scream basically like haha and I was

scream basically like haha and I was

scream basically like haha and I was like what’s going on and Mikey had

like what’s going on and Mikey had

like what’s going on and Mikey had gotten up to the anchor and was pulling

gotten up to the anchor and was pulling

gotten up to the anchor and was pulling the rope up and pulled the rope up all

the rope up and pulled the rope up all

the rope up and pulled the rope up all the way to the end and at the end of a

the way to the end and at the end of a

the way to the end and at the end of a rope that having completely cut in

rope that having completely cut in

rope that having completely cut in like not even attached to anything and

like not even attached to anything and

like not even attached to anything and that’s me on the other end and he’s like

that’s me on the other end and he’s like

that’s me on the other end and he’s like he’s like pull on your rope and I’m like

he’s like pull on your rope and I’m like

he’s like pull on your rope and I’m like what and I pull on the rope and the

what and I pull on the rope and the

what and I pull on the rope and the whole thing slithers down into my by my

whole thing slithers down into my by my

whole thing slithers down into my by my feet so we’re like a thousand feet up

feet so we’re like a thousand feet up

feet so we’re like a thousand feet up his face and there’s like another couple

his face and there’s like another couple

his face and there’s like another couple thousand feet to go and that’s the

thousand feet to go and that’s the

thousand feet to go and that’s the expression you get when you’re stuck

expression you get when you’re stuck

expression you get when you’re stuck well fortunately mark and run on being

well fortunately mark and run on being

well fortunately mark and run on being the good friends that they are came and

the good friends that they are came and

the good friends that they are came and saved us but those are kind of like the

saved us but those are kind of like the

saved us but those are kind of like the occupational hazards you sometimes have

occupational hazards you sometimes have

occupational hazards you sometimes have on these shoots so yes I saved Jimmy J

yeah and that I will just say that’s

yeah and that I will just say that’s when a few stories around like that is

when a few stories around like that is

when a few stories around like that is super super serious because like Mikey

super super serious because like Mikey

super super serious because like Mikey you know thought he was on belay the

you know thought he was on belay the

you know thought he was on belay the whole time had he waited the rope or

whole time had he waited the rope or

whole time had he waited the rope or head he like fallen or anything he would

head he like fallen or anything he would

head he like fallen or anything he would have just fallen to his death like a

have just fallen to his death like a

have just fallen to his death like a thousand feet without ever even knowing

thousand feet without ever even knowing

thousand feet without ever even knowing that his rope had been cut like it’s

that his rope had been cut like it’s

that his rope had been cut like it’s pretty crazy to get a rope cut without

pretty crazy to get a rope cut without

pretty crazy to get a rope cut without either person knowing it’s like it’s

either person knowing it’s like it’s

either person knowing it’s like it’s pretty much a worst-case scenario in

pretty much a worst-case scenario in

pretty much a worst-case scenario in climbing I mean we all were like whoa

climbing I mean we all were like whoa

climbing I mean we all were like whoa that’s a pretty serious but so the real

that’s a pretty serious but so the real

that’s a pretty serious but so the real beauty of this type of trip is the deep

beauty of this type of trip is the deep

beauty of this type of trip is the deep water soloing which is a soul lying

water soloing which is a soul lying

water soloing which is a soul lying above the ocean and that’s kind of what

above the ocean and that’s kind of what

above the ocean and that’s kind of what we were searching for is we like probed

we were searching for is we like probed

we were searching for is we like probed all these fjords we would like search

all these fjords we would like search

all these fjords we would like search along and look for cool cliffs that were

along and look for cool cliffs that were

along and look for cool cliffs that were right over the ocean that were steep

right over the ocean that were steep

right over the ocean that were steep enough and with deep enough water

enough and with deep enough water

enough and with deep enough water beneath that you could safely climb out

beneath that you could safely climb out

beneath that you could safely climb out the cliff and then fall into the water

the cliff and then fall into the water

the cliff and then fall into the water this is Hayes what was actually one of

this is Hayes what was actually one of

this is Hayes what was actually one of the best all-around female climbers in

the best all-around female climbers in

the best all-around female climbers in the world the thing with deep water

the world the thing with deep water

the world the thing with deep water soloing though I mean I say that it’s

soloing though I mean I say that it’s

soloing though I mean I say that it’s super casual super fun you know

super casual super fun you know

super casual super fun you know best-case scenario it’s like a mix

best-case scenario it’s like a mix

best-case scenario it’s like a mix between going snorkeling and going

between going snorkeling and going

between going snorkeling and going climbing and it’s like really nice but

climbing and it’s like really nice but

climbing and it’s like really nice but think it’s worst-case you know you can’t

think it’s worst-case you know you can’t

think it’s worst-case you know you can’t actually hurt yourself he pull rocks off

actually hurt yourself he pull rocks off

actually hurt yourself he pull rocks off you land in things or you could also

you land in things or you could also

you land in things or you could also take horrible falls in this case hazel

take horrible falls in this case hazel

take horrible falls in this case hazel is actually kind of playing she

is actually kind of playing she

is actually kind of playing she tightened up and do a dive maybe before

tightened up and do a dive maybe before

tightened up and do a dive maybe before she hit the water but um but this is the

she hit the water but um but this is the

she hit the water but um but this is the kind of position that you could be and

kind of position that you could be and

kind of position that you could be and if you broke a hold or something you

if you broke a hold or something you

if you broke a hold or something you know you pinwheel off backward and then

know you pinwheel off backward and then

know you pinwheel off backward and then in this case Vern on actually pulled the

in this case Vern on actually pulled the

in this case Vern on actually pulled the rock on to his head and cut his head and

rock on to his head and cut his head and

rock on to his head and cut his head and so I’m like digging around trying to

so I’m like digging around trying to

so I’m like digging around trying to find out if he’d actually like broken

find out if he’d actually like broken

find out if he’d actually like broken anything we’ve gotten pretty deep into

anything we’ve gotten pretty deep into

anything we’ve gotten pretty deep into this without talking at all about the

this without talking at all about the

this without talking at all about the people and when I started doing my my

people and when I started doing my my

people and when I started doing my my research about

research about

research about about this area the Moose on dum

about this area the Moose on dum

about this area the Moose on dum Peninsula I immediately found references

Peninsula I immediately found references

Peninsula I immediately found references to the kuzari people well I wanted to

to the kuzari people well I wanted to

to the kuzari people well I wanted to meet these people this is like a really

meet these people this is like a really

meet these people this is like a really important part of this expedition for me

important part of this expedition for me

important part of this expedition for me well we got into this village called

well we got into this village called

well we got into this village called sybbie and we had a couple of Oman teas

sybbie and we had a couple of Oman teas

sybbie and we had a couple of Oman teas on our team and they were our

on our team and they were our

on our team and they were our translators so we went ashore and we met

translators so we went ashore and we met

translators so we went ashore and we met these guys well Alex turned out he had

these guys well Alex turned out he had

these guys well Alex turned out he had his climbing shoes in his pack and and

his climbing shoes in his pack and and

his climbing shoes in his pack and and he said something to me like hey marked

he said something to me like hey marked

he said something to me like hey marked you mind if I if I go look around a

you mind if I if I go look around a

you mind if I if I go look around a little bit and I was like yeah sure

little bit and I was like yeah sure

little bit and I was like yeah sure whatever Alex you know do it we’ll do

whatever Alex you know do it we’ll do

whatever Alex you know do it we’ll do what you need to do and so he wandered

what you need to do and so he wandered

what you need to do and so he wandered off and I kept having this conversation

off and I kept having this conversation

off and I kept having this conversation Jimmy of course is taking photos he had

Jimmy of course is taking photos he had

Jimmy of course is taking photos he had a certain point these guys start

a certain point these guys start

a certain point these guys start freaking out and they all start yelling

freaking out and they all start yelling

freaking out and they all start yelling and they’re pointing up at the cliff and

and they’re pointing up at the cliff and

and they’re pointing up at the cliff and we’re like what’s going on you know and

we’re like what’s going on you know and

we’re like what’s going on you know and of course I’m thinking I’m pretty sure I

of course I’m thinking I’m pretty sure I

of course I’m thinking I’m pretty sure I know and there’s Alex scaling the

know and there’s Alex scaling the

know and there’s Alex scaling the gigantic cliff in the back of the

gigantic cliff in the back of the

gigantic cliff in the back of the village so they’re there of yelling all

village so they’re there of yelling all

village so they’re there of yelling all this stuff and I’m talking to Abdullah

this stuff and I’m talking to Abdullah

this stuff and I’m talking to Abdullah and on mic Abdullah what’s going on you

and on mic Abdullah what’s going on you

and on mic Abdullah what’s going on you know what do these guys saying and he’s

know what do these guys saying and he’s

know what do these guys saying and he’s like you know it’s really hard for me to

like you know it’s really hard for me to

like you know it’s really hard for me to translate but basically they think alex

translate but basically they think alex

translate but basically they think alex is a witch

the thing was earlier I was talking

the thing was earlier I was talking about the deep water soloing and how you

about the deep water soloing and how you

about the deep water soloing and how you know that’s kind of what we were looking

know that’s kind of what we were looking

know that’s kind of what we were looking for and it was it was fun and it was it

for and it was it was fun and it was it

for and it was it was fun and it was it was good climbing but it definitely

was good climbing but it definitely

was good climbing but it definitely wasn’t the best climbing there and so I

wasn’t the best climbing there and so I

wasn’t the best climbing there and so I think that the this kind of thing like

think that the this kind of thing like

think that the this kind of thing like these big bridges these like mountain

these big bridges these like mountain

these big bridges these like mountain climbs were kind of the the best thing

climbs were kind of the the best thing

climbs were kind of the the best thing that we had to offer the beauty of this

that we had to offer the beauty of this

that we had to offer the beauty of this type of comment to me was was being able

type of comment to me was was being able

type of comment to me was was being able to explore these different little

to explore these different little

to explore these different little features and just play around in the

features and just play around in the

features and just play around in the landscape and then we also did quite a

landscape and then we also did quite a

landscape and then we also did quite a bit of climbing with the rope climbs

bit of climbing with the rope climbs

bit of climbing with the rope climbs like this where we just basically

like this where we just basically

like this where we just basically climbed straight out of the water with a

climbed straight out of the water with a

climbed straight out of the water with a rope this particular one was just much

rope this particular one was just much

rope this particular one was just much too high to be even considered as a

too high to be even considered as a

too high to be even considered as a deep-water solo these by the time we got

deep-water solo these by the time we got

deep-water solo these by the time we got to the top we were probably 300 feet

to the top we were probably 300 feet

to the top we were probably 300 feet above the water which you know is

above the water which you know is

above the water which you know is obviously way too far to fall so this

obviously way too far to fall so this

obviously way too far to fall so this photo to me sort of sums up the beauty

photo to me sort of sums up the beauty

photo to me sort of sums up the beauty of deep water soloing and a the

of deep water soloing and a the

of deep water soloing and a the aesthetic that we are looking for on

aesthetic that we are looking for on

aesthetic that we are looking for on this trip you know you basically climb

this trip you know you basically climb

this trip you know you basically climb the best thing you can find you fall off

the best thing you can find you fall off

the best thing you can find you fall off and then you can barely see it but

and then you can barely see it but

and then you can barely see it but there’s hazel going snorkeling in the

there’s hazel going snorkeling in the

there’s hazel going snorkeling in the corner so we were sitting on the boat

corner so we were sitting on the boat

corner so we were sitting on the boat one day and we were planning out to go

one day and we were planning out to go

one day and we were planning out to go and climb that one right there and I was

and climb that one right there and I was

and climb that one right there and I was like getting the gear together and hazel

like getting the gear together and hazel

like getting the gear together and hazel and Alex you know they see me racking up

and Alex you know they see me racking up

and Alex you know they see me racking up this is the stuff that we use to like

this is the stuff that we use to like

this is the stuff that we use to like climb when you want to have like some

climb when you want to have like some

climb when you want to have like some safety and they’re like what are you

safety and they’re like what are you

safety and they’re like what are you doing I’m like I’m racking up and

doing I’m like I’m racking up and

doing I’m like I’m racking up and they’re like guy you don’t need that

they’re like guy you don’t need that

they’re like guy you don’t need that stuff they’re like we’re not taking

stuff they’re like we’re not taking

stuff they’re like we’re not taking ropes on this one and I’m like no we are

ropes on this one and I’m like no we are

ropes on this one and I’m like no we are we’re roping up I’m like that’s what a

we’re roping up I’m like that’s what a

we’re roping up I’m like that’s what a 1500 foot cliff he’s actually like 220

1500 foot cliff he’s actually like 220

1500 foot cliff he’s actually like 220 mm okay 2,000 foot cliff and I’ve been

mm okay 2,000 foot cliff and I’ve been

mm okay 2,000 foot cliff and I’ve been climbing for a pretty long time thirty

climbing for a pretty long time thirty

climbing for a pretty long time thirty years you know how old are you Alex yeah

so I like I can tell what I’m looking at

so I like I can tell what I’m looking at a rock climb I’m like that’s a rock

a rock climb I’m like that’s a rock

a rock climb I’m like that’s a rock climb right there and I have the ability

climb right there and I have the ability

climb right there and I have the ability to see parts that look difficult and I

to see parts that look difficult and I

to see parts that look difficult and I can you know just sort of you know

can you know just sort of you know

can you know just sort of you know determine yeah that looks like something

determine yeah that looks like something

determine yeah that looks like something where I should use a rope I talked them

where I should use a rope I talked them

where I should use a rope I talked them into bringing the gear along and thanks

into bringing the gear along and thanks

into bringing the gear along and thanks to Jimmy who said we needed it for the

to Jimmy who said we needed it for the

to Jimmy who said we needed it for the photos and he ended up being right so we

photos and he ended up being right so we

photos and he ended up being right so we get to the base of this climb this thing

get to the base of this climb this thing

get to the base of this climb this thing right here we’re up at the at the bottom

right here we’re up at the at the bottom

right here we’re up at the at the bottom of it and Hazel’s got the rack okay

of it and Hazel’s got the rack okay

of it and Hazel’s got the rack okay that’s the little devices that you put

that’s the little devices that you put

that’s the little devices that you put in the rock alex has the rope they’re

in the rock alex has the rope they’re

in the rock alex has the rope they’re taking that stuff because they’re

taking that stuff because they’re

taking that stuff because they’re stronger than me and they’re better and

stronger than me and they’re better and

stronger than me and they’re better and they both just take off but I yelled up

they both just take off but I yelled up

they both just take off but I yelled up to Alex hey like what’s going on you

to Alex hey like what’s going on you

to Alex hey like what’s going on you know what if we need to rope up and

know what if we need to rope up and

know what if we need to rope up and remember this guy here he’s the world’s

remember this guy here he’s the world’s

remember this guy here he’s the world’s greatest free soloist and Alex yells

greatest free soloist and Alex yells

greatest free soloist and Alex yells down to me says oh don’t worry I’ll stop

down to me says oh don’t worry I’ll stop

down to me says oh don’t worry I’ll stop when I think it’s appropriate for us to

when I think it’s appropriate for us to

when I think it’s appropriate for us to robot

true story he can’t deny it and of

true story he can’t deny it and of course that never happened I definitely

course that never happened I definitely

course that never happened I definitely didn’t use the word appropriate so he

didn’t use the word appropriate so he

didn’t use the word appropriate so he told the whole clef yeah yeah you did

told the whole clef yeah yeah you did

told the whole clef yeah yeah you did make it all the way very good effort

make it all the way very good effort

make it all the way very good effort yeah survive yeah well I think that kind

yeah survive yeah well I think that kind

yeah survive yeah well I think that kind of sums up what I saw a lot of on the

of sums up what I saw a lot of on the

of sums up what I saw a lot of on the boat and it’s always entertaining and I

boat and it’s always entertaining and I

boat and it’s always entertaining and I would go pretty much anywhere in the

would go pretty much anywhere in the

would go pretty much anywhere in the world with these guys because they keep

world with these guys because they keep

world with these guys because they keep me fairly under change I think we were

me fairly under change I think we were

me fairly under change I think we were just going to end the evening with a

just going to end the evening with a

just going to end the evening with a short clip of some of the footage that

short clip of some of the footage that

short clip of some of the footage that we shot on this trip and hope you

we shot on this trip and hope you

we shot on this trip and hope you enjoyed soloing is defined by climbing

enjoyed soloing is defined by climbing

enjoyed soloing is defined by climbing without a rope and so deep water soloing

without a rope and so deep water soloing

without a rope and so deep water soloing is soloing rock climbs above deep water

now this is the first time that I’ve

now this is the first time that I’ve ever deep water so load yeah I had the

ever deep water so load yeah I had the

ever deep water so load yeah I had the notion in my head that it was like kind

notion in my head that it was like kind

notion in my head that it was like kind of a and low commitment but I found out

of a and low commitment but I found out

of a and low commitment but I found out on this trip that it’s a lot more

on this trip that it’s a lot more

on this trip that it’s a lot more serious than I thought the water turns

serious than I thought the water turns

serious than I thought the water turns into rock when you go high enough you

into rock when you go high enough you

into rock when you go high enough you will really hurt yourself

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