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I was on this assignment and I had been

I was on this assignment and I had been knocking around glaciers in ice sheets

knocking around glaciers in ice sheets

knocking around glaciers in ice sheets for a long time and I knew that they

for a long time and I knew that they

for a long time and I knew that they were being affected by climate change

were being affected by climate change

were being affected by climate change but it wasn’t until this story that I

but it wasn’t until this story that I

but it wasn’t until this story that I really understood how much they were I

really understood how much they were I

really understood how much they were I was trained actually in the science of

was trained actually in the science of

was trained actually in the science of glacial geology and natural hazards way

glacial geology and natural hazards way

glacial geology and natural hazards way back in graduate school long time ago

back in graduate school long time ago

back in graduate school long time ago I’ve been climbing on mountains for 40

I’ve been climbing on mountains for 40

I’ve been climbing on mountains for 40 years and I’ve seen a lot of them in the

years and I’ve seen a lot of them in the

years and I’ve seen a lot of them in the course of different assignments but

course of different assignments but

course of different assignments but until I went on this trip I didn’t

until I went on this trip I didn’t

until I went on this trip I didn’t realize quite how rapidly things were

realize quite how rapidly things were

realize quite how rapidly things were changing this is up on the Greenland ice

changing this is up on the Greenland ice

changing this is up on the Greenland ice sheet this is from another story we did

sheet this is from another story we did

sheet this is from another story we did a few years ago huge meltwater rivers

a few years ago huge meltwater rivers

a few years ago huge meltwater rivers eroding through the Greenland ice sheet

eroding through the Greenland ice sheet

eroding through the Greenland ice sheet the ice of course breaks off out in the

the ice of course breaks off out in the

the ice of course breaks off out in the ocean and turns into icebergs floating

ocean and turns into icebergs floating

ocean and turns into icebergs floating out to sea and block-by-block

out to sea and block-by-block

out to sea and block-by-block molecule by molecule this becomes part

molecule by molecule this becomes part

molecule by molecule this becomes part of global sea level rise that you see

of global sea level rise that you see

of global sea level rise that you see here in Chesapeake Bay that you see on

here in Chesapeake Bay that you see on

here in Chesapeake Bay that you see on the coast of New Jersey whatever this

the coast of New Jersey whatever this

the coast of New Jersey whatever this this actually connects right to our

this actually connects right to our

this actually connects right to our lives here we call these ice diamonds

lives here we call these ice diamonds

lives here we call these ice diamonds these are the last surviving fragments

these are the last surviving fragments

these are the last surviving fragments of glaciers that are going away and

of glaciers that are going away and

of glaciers that are going away and going into the ocean as part of the sea

going into the ocean as part of the sea

going into the ocean as part of the sea level rise process so having seen all

level rise process so having seen all

level rise process so having seen all this and really got my head turned

this and really got my head turned

this and really got my head turned around by this assignment I started this

around by this assignment I started this

around by this assignment I started this extreme ice survey craziness and it

extreme ice survey craziness and it

extreme ice survey craziness and it occurred to me that just going out and

occurred to me that just going out and

occurred to me that just going out and photographing for a day an hour a week a

photographing for a day an hour a week a

photographing for a day an hour a week a month at a certain site wasn’t good

month at a certain site wasn’t good

month at a certain site wasn’t good enough that I needed to leave my eyes

enough that I needed to leave my eyes

enough that I needed to leave my eyes behind and that’s what these time-lapse

behind and that’s what these time-lapse

behind and that’s what these time-lapse cameras are and so in the spring of 2007

cameras are and so in the spring of 2007

cameras are and so in the spring of 2007 I built this whole network of cameras in

I built this whole network of cameras in

I built this whole network of cameras in my garage basically they’re mounted in

my garage basically they’re mounted in

my garage basically they’re mounted in these Pelican housings that we custom

these Pelican housings that we custom

these Pelican housings that we custom modify with glass on the front powered

modify with glass on the front powered

modify with glass on the front powered by solar panels there’s a custom

by solar panels there’s a custom

by solar panels there’s a custom computer inside that tells the camera

computer inside that tells the camera

computer inside that tells the camera when went to fire nikon cameras clicking

when went to fire nikon cameras clicking

when went to fire nikon cameras clicking away in the spring of seven we deployed

away in the spring of seven we deployed

away in the spring of seven we deployed 25 of these things and since then we’ve

25 of these things and since then we’ve

25 of these things and since then we’ve had double that amount out in the field

had double that amount out in the field

had double that amount out in the field we you know I’m here as the

we you know I’m here as the

we you know I’m here as the representative of a very very large team

representative of a very very large team

representative of a very very large team there’s about 15 of

there’s about 15 of

there’s about 15 of who work on this with a with a

who work on this with a with a

who work on this with a with a significant degree of regularity another

significant degree of regularity another

significant degree of regularity another 15 who have a lot of passion and

15 who have a lot of passion and

15 who have a lot of passion and involvement in this as well we have

involvement in this as well we have

involvement in this as well we have cameras in by Mount Everest in Greenland

cameras in by Mount Everest in Greenland

cameras in by Mount Everest in Greenland and Iceland in northern Canada Alaska

and Iceland in northern Canada Alaska

and Iceland in northern Canada Alaska Montana and Antarctica and we’re about

Montana and Antarctica and we’re about

Montana and Antarctica and we’re about to put 10 more cameras in Antarctica in

to put 10 more cameras in Antarctica in

to put 10 more cameras in Antarctica in about three months we’re hoping to get

about three months we’re hoping to get

about three months we’re hoping to get into Patagonia in about a year funding

into Patagonia in about a year funding

into Patagonia in about a year funding permitting so the cameras are out there

permitting so the cameras are out there

permitting so the cameras are out there our little robot eyes clicking the way

our little robot eyes clicking the way

our little robot eyes clicking the way watching the world while I’m in here

watching the world while I’m in here

watching the world while I’m in here talking to you and here’s an example of

talking to you and here’s an example of

talking to you and here’s an example of one of the things that the cameras see

one of the things that the cameras see

one of the things that the cameras see we’re up in Greenland’s now west central

we’re up in Greenland’s now west central

we’re up in Greenland’s now west central Greenland at a glacier called the

Greenland at a glacier called the

Greenland at a glacier called the elusive glacier and this thing is the

elusive glacier and this thing is the

elusive glacier and this thing is the primary conveyor belts pouring ice into

primary conveyor belts pouring ice into

primary conveyor belts pouring ice into the ocean from the interior of Greenland

the ocean from the interior of Greenland

the ocean from the interior of Greenland and making its contribution to global

and making its contribution to global

and making its contribution to global sea level rise global sea level by the

sea level rise global sea level by the

sea level rise global sea level by the way is going up up about an eighth of an

way is going up up about an eighth of an

way is going up up about an eighth of an inch per year right now at the current

inch per year right now at the current

inch per year right now at the current rate of ice loss and we had cameras

rate of ice loss and we had cameras

rate of ice loss and we had cameras turned on one night in May of 2008 and

turned on one night in May of 2008 and

turned on one night in May of 2008 and over the course of 75 minutes this is

over the course of 75 minutes this is

over the course of 75 minutes this is what the cameras saw there was this

what the cameras saw there was this

what the cameras saw there was this enormous what’s called a calving event

enormous what’s called a calving event

enormous what’s called a calving event it’s a break off event for this ice

it’s a break off event for this ice

it’s a break off event for this ice sheet these Berg’s that you’re seeing

sheet these Berg’s that you’re seeing

sheet these Berg’s that you’re seeing above the water level are 30 to 40

above the water level are 30 to 40

above the water level are 30 to 40 stories tall and they go ten times that

stories tall and they go ten times that

stories tall and they go ten times that height down inside the water and so this

height down inside the water and so this

height down inside the water and so this is you’re about to see the volume of ice

is you’re about to see the volume of ice

is you’re about to see the volume of ice that breaks off but this this is the

that breaks off but this this is the

that breaks off but this this is the source of the icebergs that apparently

source of the icebergs that apparently

source of the icebergs that apparently sank sank the Titanic by the odds of

sank sank the Titanic by the odds of

sank sank the Titanic by the odds of where the ice comes from in Greenland

where the ice comes from in Greenland

where the ice comes from in Greenland that’s a pretty good bet it’s a it was a

that’s a pretty good bet it’s a it was a

that’s a pretty good bet it’s a it was a vast event the largest calving event

vast event the largest calving event

vast event the largest calving event ever put on film and to give you a sense

ever put on film and to give you a sense

ever put on film and to give you a sense of scale because it’s very hard I’ll do

of scale because it’s very hard I’ll do

of scale because it’s very hard I’ll do something that no self-respecting

something that no self-respecting

something that no self-respecting photographer would ever do and put

photographer would ever do and put

photographer would ever do and put cheesy illustrations over his pictures

cheesy illustrations over his pictures

cheesy illustrations over his pictures but it’s a big chunk a mile by three

but it’s a big chunk a mile by three

but it’s a big chunk a mile by three miles by three-fifths of the mile deep

miles by three-fifths of the mile deep

miles by three-fifths of the mile deep and here if you put two Golden Gate

and here if you put two Golden Gate

and here if you put two Golden Gate bridges across it that would be the span

bridges across it that would be the span

bridges across it that would be the span of the block but even more pertinent to

of the block but even more pertinent to

of the block but even more pertinent to Washington the question of how many US

Washington the question of how many US

Washington the question of how many US Capitol buildings would it take to fill

Capitol buildings would it take to fill

Capitol buildings would it take to fill up that block of ice and dump it out to

up that block of ice and dump it out to

up that block of ice and dump it out to sea and the answer is it’s 3,000 US

sea and the answer is it’s 3,000 US

sea and the answer is it’s 3,000 US Capitol buildings large that’s a lot of

Capitol buildings large that’s a lot of

Capitol buildings large that’s a lot of ice big chunk of ice there’s so it’s

ice big chunk of ice there’s so it’s

ice big chunk of ice there’s so it’s it’s so hard to get your head around

it’s so hard to get your head around

it’s so hard to get your head around this even when you spend a lot of time

this even when you spend a lot of time

this even when you spend a lot of time out there but this is what we have to do

out there but this is what we have to do

out there but this is what we have to do to give it scale long story short we we

to give it scale long story short we we

to give it scale long story short we we wound up carrying on the extreme ice

wound up carrying on the extreme ice

wound up carrying on the extreme ice survey it started in o-5 it’s still

survey it started in o-5 it’s still

survey it started in o-5 it’s still going on right now seventh year and this

going on right now seventh year and this

going on right now seventh year and this story that’s in the current issue of the

story that’s in the current issue of the

story that’s in the current issue of the magazine is the third story for the

magazine is the third story for the

magazine is the third story for the magazine that’s come out of the project

magazine that’s come out of the project

magazine that’s come out of the project and you know it’s got these various

and you know it’s got these various

and you know it’s got these various facets to it there’s the question of

facets to it there’s the question of

facets to it there’s the question of time lapse and the repeat photography

time lapse and the repeat photography

time lapse and the repeat photography but there’s also the question of the

but there’s also the question of the

but there’s also the question of the aesthetics of this amazing protein

aesthetics of this amazing protein

aesthetics of this amazing protein substance called frozen water ice

substance called frozen water ice

substance called frozen water ice you know it’s wild stuff and it’s

you know it’s wild stuff and it’s

you know it’s wild stuff and it’s insanely ridiculously beautiful in

insanely ridiculously beautiful in

insanely ridiculously beautiful in captivating here’s what we call a repeat

captivating here’s what we call a repeat

captivating here’s what we call a repeat pair an aerial on the left side

pair an aerial on the left side

pair an aerial on the left side photographed of the Columbia glacier in

photographed of the Columbia glacier in

photographed of the Columbia glacier in Alaska in 2006 and on the right side

Alaska in 2006 and on the right side

Alaska in 2006 and on the right side what that glacier looked like just about

what that glacier looked like just about

what that glacier looked like just about a year ago at this time and now I’m

a year ago at this time and now I’m

a year ago at this time and now I’m going to show you a time-lapse camera

going to show you a time-lapse camera

going to show you a time-lapse camera installed up on what would be the left

installed up on what would be the left

installed up on what would be the left side of these frames shooting and

side of these frames shooting and

side of these frames shooting and looking at the Columbia as it recedes

you of course can’t see any of this with

you of course can’t see any of this with your eye human Ives can’t record change

your eye human Ives can’t record change

your eye human Ives can’t record change but cameras can that’s why we leave the

but cameras can that’s why we leave the

but cameras can that’s why we leave the cameras out there because you’re

cameras out there because you’re

cameras out there because you’re watching a historical process that you

watching a historical process that you

watching a historical process that you can’t otherwise comprehend all this

can’t otherwise comprehend all this

can’t otherwise comprehend all this stuff would be gone the memory would be

stuff would be gone the memory would be

stuff would be gone the memory would be completely lost without the camera there

completely lost without the camera there

completely lost without the camera there to record it

in this glacier is about to go back up

in this glacier is about to go back up into the picture another three to five

into the picture another three to five

into the picture another three to five miles and we haven’t been in there since

miles and we haven’t been in there since

miles and we haven’t been in there since May but there’s good reason to believe

May but there’s good reason to believe

May but there’s good reason to believe that it’s pulled back a good deal from

that it’s pulled back a good deal from

that it’s pulled back a good deal from where you see it already and if it has

where you see it already and if it has

where you see it already and if it has and it’s pulled off the land that’s on

and it’s pulled off the land that’s on

and it’s pulled off the land that’s on the right it will go into a very very

the right it will go into a very very

the right it will go into a very very fast retreat over these next few years

fast retreat over these next few years

fast retreat over these next few years so we put Humpty Dumpty back together

so we put Humpty Dumpty back together

so we put Humpty Dumpty back together again that’s where it started

and we go forward and that’s where it

and we go forward and that’s where it was in May

okay last visual chasing ice I didn’t

okay last visual chasing ice I didn’t make the film I’m the the trained monkey

make the film I’m the the trained monkey

make the film I’m the the trained monkey that’s in the film it was made by a

that’s in the film it was made by a

that’s in the film it was made by a filmmaking team led by a young director

filmmaking team led by a young director

filmmaking team led by a young director named Jeff Orlowski and it documented

named Jeff Orlowski and it documented

named Jeff Orlowski and it documented the project I of course was responsible

the project I of course was responsible

the project I of course was responsible for for getting the team out in the

for for getting the team out in the

for for getting the team out in the field

field

field developing the time-lapse and we’re

developing the time-lapse and we’re

developing the time-lapse and we’re happy to say it’s been widely widely

happy to say it’s been widely widely

happy to say it’s been widely widely received and it’s really helped to shift

received and it’s really helped to shift

received and it’s really helped to shift the debate on climate change it’s been

the debate on climate change it’s been

the debate on climate change it’s been shown in the British House of Commons

shown in the British House of Commons

shown in the British House of Commons the UN the White House many policy areas

the UN the White House many policy areas

the UN the White House many policy areas lots of corporations and the film just

lots of corporations and the film just

lots of corporations and the film just in case you’re interested has is

in case you’re interested has is

in case you’re interested has is finished more or less with its

finished more or less with its

finished more or less with its international theatrical run but it’s

international theatrical run but it’s

international theatrical run but it’s available on Netflix on iTunes and and

available on Netflix on iTunes and and

available on Netflix on iTunes and and it’s been it’s on the National

it’s been it’s on the National

it’s been it’s on the National Geographic Channel in heavy rotation

Geographic Channel in heavy rotation

Geographic Channel in heavy rotation started in April but it’s it’s going

started in April but it’s it’s going

started in April but it’s it’s going around the world quite a bit hundred and

around the world quite a bit hundred and

around the world quite a bit hundred and 71 countries so here’s a trailer that

71 countries so here’s a trailer that

71 countries so here’s a trailer that shows you the film and gives you a taste

shows you the film and gives you a taste

shows you the film and gives you a taste of what it’s all about here we go

of what it’s all about here we go

of what it’s all about here we go I’m on the phone with Jim on one of our

I’m on the phone with Jim on one of our

I’m on the phone with Jim on one of our regular check-ins Jim nothing’s

regular check-ins Jim nothing’s

regular check-ins Jim nothing’s happening it’s starting at him I think

happening it’s starting at him I think

happening it’s starting at him I think part of it started

it all started in Iceland think I’m so

it all started in Iceland think I’m so certain to get what I’ll take my boots

certain to get what I’ll take my boots

certain to get what I’ll take my boots off I never imagined that you could see

off I never imagined that you could see

off I never imagined that you could see glaciers this big disappearing in such a

glaciers this big disappearing in such a

glaciers this big disappearing in such a short time there’s a powerful piece of

short time there’s a powerful piece of

short time there’s a powerful piece of history that’s unfolding in these

history that’s unfolding in these

history that’s unfolding in these pictures and I have to go back the

pictures and I have to go back the

pictures and I have to go back the initial goal was to put out 25 cameras

initial goal was to put out 25 cameras

initial goal was to put out 25 cameras for three years shoot every hour as long

for three years shoot every hour as long

for three years shoot every hour as long as it was daylight that would show you

as it was daylight that would show you

as it was daylight that would show you how the landscape was changing this is

how the landscape was changing this is

how the landscape was changing this is the way to travel my friend putting

the way to travel my friend putting

the way to travel my friend putting really delicate electronics in the

really delicate electronics in the

really delicate electronics in the harshest conditions on the planet it’s

harshest conditions on the planet it’s

harshest conditions on the planet it’s not the nicest environment for

not the nicest environment for

not the nicest environment for technology I do not want to go any lower

technology I do not want to go any lower

technology I do not want to go any lower than this

than this

than this it’s just bottomless I’m going out here

it’s just bottomless I’m going out here

it’s just bottomless I’m going out here on this broken fin and I assume it won’t

on this broken fin and I assume it won’t

on this broken fin and I assume it won’t collapse

every once in a while you get saying oh

every once in a while you get saying oh thank you

thank you

thank you maybe that office job wasn’t so bad this

maybe that office job wasn’t so bad this

maybe that office job wasn’t so bad this thing is rock it’s not working

thing is rock it’s not working

thing is rock it’s not working all of that obsession means nothing if

all of that obsession means nothing if

all of that obsession means nothing if it doesn’t work it’s be careful don’t

it doesn’t work it’s be careful don’t

it doesn’t work it’s be careful don’t get too close to the edge all right

get too close to the edge all right

get too close to the edge all right it’s terrifying

miss Tia said two surgeries it really

miss Tia said two surgeries it really could use a surge you goes to that point

could use a surge you goes to that point

could use a surge you goes to that point where he can’t anymore and sometimes

where he can’t anymore and sometimes

where he can’t anymore and sometimes he’s going further we have no one reason

he’s going further we have no one reason

he’s going further we have no one reason engine number two this is a big stuff

engine number two this is a big stuff

engine number two this is a big stuff happening right now okay

happening right now okay

happening right now okay [Music]

this is the memory of the landscape that

this is the memory of the landscape that landscape is gone and may never be seen

landscape is gone and may never be seen

landscape is gone and may never be seen again in the history of civilization and

again in the history of civilization and

again in the history of civilization and it’s stored right here

[Applause]

[Applause] [Music]

[Music]

[Music] you

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