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this whole business of giant statues

this whole business of giant statues really cries out for an explanation what

really cries out for an explanation what

really cries out for an explanation what happened when did it happen and why

happened when did it happen and why

happened when did it happen and why these are the sort of enduring questions

these are the sort of enduring questions

these are the sort of enduring questions that we think of as the mystery of

that we think of as the mystery of

that we think of as the mystery of Easter Island

ever since Easter Sunday

ever since Easter Sunday 17:22 when the first Europeans

17:22 when the first Europeans

17:22 when the first Europeans accidentally sighted this isolated

accidentally sighted this isolated

accidentally sighted this isolated island in the South Pacific

island in the South Pacific

island in the South Pacific Easter Island has presented a dilemma

Easter Island has presented a dilemma

Easter Island has presented a dilemma for explorers scientists and today an

for explorers scientists and today an

for explorers scientists and today an increasing number of tourists but it was

increasing number of tourists but it was

increasing number of tourists but it was here on Rapa Nui or Easter Island more

here on Rapa Nui or Easter Island more

here on Rapa Nui or Easter Island more than two thousand kilometres from

than two thousand kilometres from

than two thousand kilometres from another Polynesian island nearly 4000

another Polynesian island nearly 4000

another Polynesian island nearly 4000 kilometers from the coast of Chile

kilometers from the coast of Chile

kilometers from the coast of Chile apparently without influence from other

apparently without influence from other

apparently without influence from other cultures that a prehistoric society

cultures that a prehistoric society

cultures that a prehistoric society evolved and produced the greatest

evolved and produced the greatest

evolved and produced the greatest monuments and feats of engineering in

monuments and feats of engineering in

monuments and feats of engineering in all of Polynesia really in all of the

all of Polynesia really in all of the

all of Polynesia really in all of the world for that matter

world for that matter

world for that matter well Rapa Nui is small it’s very small

well Rapa Nui is small it’s very small

well Rapa Nui is small it’s very small and it is isolated this is it you’re

and it is isolated this is it you’re

and it is isolated this is it you’re looking at the whole island if we

looking at the whole island if we

looking at the whole island if we understand the size if we take a look at

understand the size if we take a look at

understand the size if we take a look at Washington DC and we superimpose Rapa

Washington DC and we superimpose Rapa

Washington DC and we superimpose Rapa Nui onto it gives you an appreciation

Nui onto it gives you an appreciation

Nui onto it gives you an appreciation for its size that’s the right reaction

Easter islands moai now multi tons

Easter islands moai now multi tons statues some measuring more than 20

statues some measuring more than 20

statues some measuring more than 20 meters in length and weighing more than

meters in length and weighing more than

meters in length and weighing more than 75 tons were carved out of the islands

75 tons were carved out of the islands

75 tons were carved out of the islands quarry of volcanic tuff and then

quarry of volcanic tuff and then

quarry of volcanic tuff and then transported some of them several miles

transported some of them several miles

transported some of them several miles over the islands rugged terrain these

over the islands rugged terrain these

over the islands rugged terrain these statues were then placed on impressive

statues were then placed on impressive

statues were then placed on impressive platforms called ahoo and this whole

platforms called ahoo and this whole

platforms called ahoo and this whole business of giant statues and platforms

business of giant statues and platforms

business of giant statues and platforms really cries out for an explanation what

really cries out for an explanation what

really cries out for an explanation what on earth is going on here well the moai

on earth is going on here well the moai

on earth is going on here well the moai were religious statuary like those found

were religious statuary like those found

were religious statuary like those found elsewhere in Polynesia but had the

elsewhere in Polynesia but had the

elsewhere in Polynesia but had the Society carved and transported just one

Society carved and transported just one

Society carved and transported just one or two of these statues the

or two of these statues the

or two of these statues the accomplishment would have been

accomplishment would have been

accomplishment would have been noteworthy but actually not that

noteworthy but actually not that

noteworthy but actually not that surprising other islands in Polynesia

surprising other islands in Polynesia

surprising other islands in Polynesia have impressive stone statues and some

have impressive stone statues and some

have impressive stone statues and some of them were even moved significant

of them were even moved significant

of them were even moved significant distances but by our own count the

distances but by our own count the

distances but by our own count the Islanders carved almost a thousand

Islanders carved almost a thousand

Islanders carved almost a thousand statues more than 400 of these were

statues more than 400 of these were

statues more than 400 of these were transported over rough terrain some

transported over rough terrain some

transported over rough terrain some reaching every corner of the island

reaching every corner of the island

reaching every corner of the island nowhere else in Polynesia had this

nowhere else in Polynesia had this

nowhere else in Polynesia had this happened why did it happen on Rapa Nui

happened why did it happen on Rapa Nui

happened why did it happen on Rapa Nui an island where people should have been

an island where people should have been

an island where people should have been focused on where to find their next meal

focused on where to find their next meal

focused on where to find their next meal how could a relatively poor society have

how could a relatively poor society have

how could a relatively poor society have produced such impressive monuments were

produced such impressive monuments were

produced such impressive monuments were people more numerous with more resources

people more numerous with more resources

people more numerous with more resources in the past what happened when did it

in the past what happened when did it

in the past what happened when did it happen and why these are the sort of

happen and why these are the sort of

happen and why these are the sort of enduring questions that we think of as

enduring questions that we think of as

enduring questions that we think of as the mystery of Easter Island

the mystery of Easter Island

the mystery of Easter Island generally speaking Rapa Nui might have

generally speaking Rapa Nui might have

generally speaking Rapa Nui might have just remained the of interest to just a

just remained the of interest to just a

just remained the of interest to just a small group of researchers but its story

small group of researchers but its story

small group of researchers but its story has grown to have a greater impact to us

has grown to have a greater impact to us

has grown to have a greater impact to us it’s been given a modern message and a

it’s been given a modern message and a

it’s been given a modern message and a warning for today’s grow global problems

warning for today’s grow global problems

warning for today’s grow global problems Rapa Nui has been offered up as an

Rapa Nui has been offered up as an

Rapa Nui has been offered up as an example of a society that overexploited

example of a society that overexploited

example of a society that overexploited its own resources and destroyed itself

its own resources and destroyed itself

its own resources and destroyed itself Jared Diamond describes this as ecocide

Jared Diamond describes this as ecocide

Jared Diamond describes this as ecocide for ecological suicide here’s our

for ecological suicide here’s our

for ecological suicide here’s our summary of the popular view of events as

summary of the popular view of events as

summary of the popular view of events as presented by diamond and others

presented by diamond and others

presented by diamond and others Polynesian settlers colonize the islands

Polynesian settlers colonize the islands

Polynesian settlers colonize the islands sometime between 400 and 800 AD

sometime between 400 and 800 AD

sometime between 400 and 800 AD centuries later elites gain control of

centuries later elites gain control of

centuries later elites gain control of the island and with a population that

the island and with a population that

the island and with a population that had grown too large competition ensued

had grown too large competition ensued

had grown too large competition ensued for power and prestige consequently they

for power and prestige consequently they

for power and prestige consequently they redirected a significant portion of the

redirected a significant portion of the

redirected a significant portion of the islands resources and human energy into

islands resources and human energy into

islands resources and human energy into insanely competitive statue building

insanely competitive statue building

insanely competitive statue building cult that some have called a moai mania

cult that some have called a moai mania

cult that some have called a moai mania this practice continues until it

this practice continues until it

this practice continues until it literally took down the islands fragile

literally took down the islands fragile

literally took down the islands fragile ecology and reduced the population to

ecology and reduced the population to

ecology and reduced the population to the poor state in which Europeans found

the poor state in which Europeans found

the poor state in which Europeans found it in the 18th century

it in the 18th century

it in the 18th century so this account as told in this but by

so this account as told in this but by

so this account as told in this but by many is often taken as a given people

many is often taken as a given people

many is often taken as a given people just assume it’s true the story though

just assume it’s true the story though

just assume it’s true the story though isn’t isn’t a brand-new story it

isn’t isn’t a brand-new story it

isn’t isn’t a brand-new story it actually emerges with the speculation of

actually emerges with the speculation of

actually emerges with the speculation of some of the earliest European visitors

some of the earliest European visitors

some of the earliest European visitors French explorer la puros who visited the

French explorer la puros who visited the

French explorer la puros who visited the island for a single day in April of 1786

island for a single day in April of 1786

island for a single day in April of 1786 suggested that the president unfortunate

suggested that the president unfortunate

suggested that the president unfortunate condition of the Eastern Islanders was

condition of the Eastern Islanders was

condition of the Eastern Islanders was due to the imprudence of the ancestors

due to the imprudence of the ancestors

due to the imprudence of the ancestors who at some very distant time in the

who at some very distant time in the

who at some very distant time in the past had cut

past had cut

past had cut down there one natural resource a dense

down there one natural resource a dense

down there one natural resource a dense forest this imprudence in destroying

forest this imprudence in destroying

forest this imprudence in destroying their forest forms the foundation of

their forest forms the foundation of

their forest forms the foundation of what a lot of what we think about what

what a lot of what we think about what

what a lot of what we think about what we think we know about the island it is

we think we know about the island it is

we think we know about the island it is really directly behind much of the

really directly behind much of the

really directly behind much of the accounts of Rapa Nui as the site of some

accounts of Rapa Nui as the site of some

accounts of Rapa Nui as the site of some kind of prehistoric catastrophe well

kind of prehistoric catastrophe well

kind of prehistoric catastrophe well modern research confirmed that there was

modern research confirmed that there was

modern research confirmed that there was a dense forest and it led some to

a dense forest and it led some to

a dense forest and it led some to speculate that people had foolishly

speculate that people had foolishly

speculate that people had foolishly called for the forest to be taken down

called for the forest to be taken down

called for the forest to be taken down to provide tens of thousands of logs

to provide tens of thousands of logs

to provide tens of thousands of logs needed to transport the giant statues

needed to transport the giant statues

needed to transport the giant statues from the quarry to their shoreline

from the quarry to their shoreline

from the quarry to their shoreline location Jared Diamond would suggest

location Jared Diamond would suggest

location Jared Diamond would suggest that more trees had to be cut down for

that more trees had to be cut down for

that more trees had to be cut down for additional agricultural fields to feed a

additional agricultural fields to feed a

additional agricultural fields to feed a rapidly growing population and the

rapidly growing population and the

rapidly growing population and the thousands of workers who were forced to

thousands of workers who were forced to

thousands of workers who were forced to make and move the giant statues

make and move the giant statues

make and move the giant statues according to Diamond the population

according to Diamond the population

according to Diamond the population exploded reaching more than 15,000

exploded reaching more than 15,000

exploded reaching more than 15,000 forests disappeared and eventually

forests disappeared and eventually

forests disappeared and eventually agriculture failed together these two

agriculture failed together these two

agriculture failed together these two factors uncontrolled population growth

factors uncontrolled population growth

factors uncontrolled population growth and over exploitation of the land

and over exploitation of the land

and over exploitation of the land resulted in a critical drop of the

resulted in a critical drop of the

resulted in a critical drop of the islands carrying capacity to make

islands carrying capacity to make

islands carrying capacity to make matters worse the loss of forests meant

matters worse the loss of forests meant

matters worse the loss of forests meant that people could no longer carve new

that people could no longer carve new

that people could no longer carve new canoes for deep-sea fishing as well

canoes for deep-sea fishing as well

canoes for deep-sea fishing as well without seaworthy vessels the excess

without seaworthy vessels the excess

without seaworthy vessels the excess population could not be sent off in

population could not be sent off in

population could not be sent off in search of new land as they had in the

search of new land as they had in the

search of new land as they had in the past in essence according to this

past in essence according to this

past in essence according to this version of history the Rapa Nui were

version of history the Rapa Nui were

version of history the Rapa Nui were marooned on an island they had

marooned on an island they had

marooned on an island they had impoverished by their own imprudent

impoverished by their own imprudent

impoverished by their own imprudent actions increasing competition over

actions increasing competition over

actions increasing competition over limited resources Diamond believed led

limited resources Diamond believed led

limited resources Diamond believed led to warfare and finally cannibalism and

to warfare and finally cannibalism and

to warfare and finally cannibalism and chaos this happened just before so it

chaos this happened just before so it

chaos this happened just before so it said Europeans arrived to see the

said Europeans arrived to see the

said Europeans arrived to see the remnants of a once thriving society that

remnants of a once thriving society that

remnants of a once thriving society that had destroyed its environment and as a

had destroyed its environment and as a

had destroyed its environment and as a result destroyed itself as diamond put

result destroyed itself as diamond put

result destroyed itself as diamond put it the Islanders had committed ecocide

it the Islanders had committed ecocide

it the Islanders had committed ecocide is this what really happened well in

is this what really happened well in

is this what really happened well in 2001 we began intensive fieldwork on

2001 we began intensive fieldwork on

2001 we began intensive fieldwork on Easter Island five years later and after

Easter Island five years later and after

Easter Island five years later and after as many seasons of fieldwork the story

as many seasons of fieldwork the story

as many seasons of fieldwork the story that we believed was pretty

that we believed was pretty

that we believed was pretty accurate was really falling apart before

accurate was really falling apart before

accurate was really falling apart before our eyes it didn’t add up one aspect of

our eyes it didn’t add up one aspect of

our eyes it didn’t add up one aspect of this was that the idea that the statues

this was that the idea that the statues

this was that the idea that the statues had been knocked over in this period of

had been knocked over in this period of

had been knocked over in this period of chaos and cannibalism and that warring

chaos and cannibalism and that warring

chaos and cannibalism and that warring tribes out of revenge went and knocked

tribes out of revenge went and knocked

tribes out of revenge went and knocked the statues down and this is supposed to

the statues down and this is supposed to

the statues down and this is supposed to happen around 1680 AD before Europeans

happen around 1680 AD before Europeans

happen around 1680 AD before Europeans arrived in 1722 well there’s a little

arrived in 1722 well there’s a little

arrived in 1722 well there’s a little problem and you can take you know a

problem and you can take you know a

problem and you can take you know a couple of minutes today on Google and

couple of minutes today on Google and

couple of minutes today on Google and see that wait a minute

see that wait a minute

see that wait a minute Europeans are illustrating standing

Europeans are illustrating standing

Europeans are illustrating standing statues in and platforms in a pretty

statues in and platforms in a pretty

statues in and platforms in a pretty good state well a researcher a historian

good state well a researcher a historian

good state well a researcher a historian and an engineer got together and

and an engineer got together and

and an engineer got together and speculated that something else might be

speculated that something else might be

speculated that something else might be going on this reminder from Stanford

going on this reminder from Stanford

going on this reminder from Stanford University’s web pages and a historic

University’s web pages and a historic

University’s web pages and a historic photo thereof Louie Agassiz reminds us

photo thereof Louie Agassiz reminds us

photo thereof Louie Agassiz reminds us that sometimes statues fall over in

that sometimes statues fall over in

that sometimes statues fall over in earthquakes and the researchers on Rapa

earthquakes and the researchers on Rapa

earthquakes and the researchers on Rapa Nui speculated actually hypothesize with

Nui speculated actually hypothesize with

Nui speculated actually hypothesize with pretty good evidence that this might be

pretty good evidence that this might be

pretty good evidence that this might be what happened there that statues

what happened there that statues

what happened there that statues actually came down after European

actually came down after European

actually came down after European contact with earthquakes if they were

contact with earthquakes if they were

contact with earthquakes if they were never actually pulled down by warring

never actually pulled down by warring

never actually pulled down by warring tribes the other the other one one other

tribes the other the other one one other

tribes the other the other one one other piece of evidence here is supposedly

piece of evidence here is supposedly

piece of evidence here is supposedly there is a proliferation of weapons of

there is a proliferation of weapons of

there is a proliferation of weapons of mass destruction that look like this

mass destruction that look like this

mass destruction that look like this yeah this is a matam and in it’s a

yeah this is a matam and in it’s a

yeah this is a matam and in it’s a stemmed obsidian artifact and there are

stemmed obsidian artifact and there are

stemmed obsidian artifact and there are thousands of these artifacts on the

thousands of these artifacts on the

thousands of these artifacts on the island you find them everywhere and the

island you find them everywhere and the

island you find them everywhere and the museum has tens of thousands of these in

museum has tens of thousands of these in

museum has tens of thousands of these in their collections and these are

their collections and these are

their collections and these are supposedly the weapons well we looked at

supposedly the weapons well we looked at

supposedly the weapons well we looked at literally hundreds of these in the

literally hundreds of these in the

literally hundreds of these in the museum collections and only once in a

museum collections and only once in a

museum collections and only once in a while is there one that’s even vaguely

while is there one that’s even vaguely

while is there one that’s even vaguely pointed and if you wanted to make

pointed and if you wanted to make

pointed and if you wanted to make weapons you would probably make them

weapons you would probably make them

weapons you would probably make them pointed more importantly there are

pointed more importantly there are

pointed more importantly there are several studies independent studies

several studies independent studies

several studies independent studies where archaeologists have studied the

where archaeologists have studied the

where archaeologists have studied the edge of these tools under a microscope

edge of these tools under a microscope

edge of these tools under a microscope and what they see is that these tools

and what they see is that these tools

and what they see is that these tools were used in cutting and scraping plant

were used in cutting and scraping plant

were used in cutting and scraping plant materials they are not weapons they

materials they are not weapons they

materials they are not weapons they don’t have blood on them and things like

don’t have blood on them and things like

don’t have blood on them and things like that so

that so

that so what was supposed to be weapons of mass

what was supposed to be weapons of mass

what was supposed to be weapons of mass destruction basically pocket knives for

destruction basically pocket knives for

destruction basically pocket knives for working on agricultural products so

working on agricultural products so

working on agricultural products so perhaps out the warfare that they’ve

perhaps out the warfare that they’ve

perhaps out the warfare that they’ve been implicated in well the answer here

been implicated in well the answer here

been implicated in well the answer here is that there really is no evidence of a

is that there really is no evidence of a

is that there really is no evidence of a collapse before European contact the

collapse before European contact the

collapse before European contact the collapse occurred with European contact

collapse occurred with European contact

collapse occurred with European contact and as a result of it

and as a result of it

and as a result of it Europeans introduced old-world diseases

Europeans introduced old-world diseases

Europeans introduced old-world diseases and this scene of cooks visit to the

and this scene of cooks visit to the

and this scene of cooks visit to the island where he describes skeletons

island where he describes skeletons

island where he describes skeletons covering the surface and speculates

covering the surface and speculates

covering the surface and speculates about where are all the people probably

about where are all the people probably

about where are all the people probably was witness to an epidemic that had

was witness to an epidemic that had

was witness to an epidemic that had occurred just a few years earlier with

occurred just a few years earlier with

occurred just a few years earlier with the visit of the Spanish in 1770 so the

the visit of the Spanish in 1770 so the

the visit of the Spanish in 1770 so the story gets a little worse of course

story gets a little worse of course

story gets a little worse of course because in the early 19th century slave

because in the early 19th century slave

because in the early 19th century slave trading began and the island was raided

trading began and the island was raided

trading began and the island was raided on a regular basis ruffinelli people

on a regular basis ruffinelli people

on a regular basis ruffinelli people were taken by force at gunpoint and

were taken by force at gunpoint and

were taken by force at gunpoint and forced into laboring in South America

forced into laboring in South America

forced into laboring in South America and in parts of Polynesia so sadly what

and in parts of Polynesia so sadly what

and in parts of Polynesia so sadly what we see here is we’ve got a popular idea

we see here is we’ve got a popular idea

we see here is we’ve got a popular idea of ecocide but what really happened was

of ecocide but what really happened was

of ecocide but what really happened was a near genocide that devastated the

a near genocide that devastated the

a near genocide that devastated the culture and the population as the result

culture and the population as the result

culture and the population as the result of European contact and very sadly the

of European contact and very sadly the

of European contact and very sadly the victims of cultural and physical

victims of cultural and physical

victims of cultural and physical extermination have been blamed as

extermination have been blamed as

extermination have been blamed as perpetrators of their own demise well

perpetrators of their own demise well

perpetrators of their own demise well this realization about what was going on

this realization about what was going on

this realization about what was going on on the island and the old story falling

on the island and the old story falling

on the island and the old story falling apart meant that we had many questions

apart meant that we had many questions

apart meant that we had many questions to ask and our research really began to

to ask and our research really began to

to ask and our research really began to open up because a lot of things we

open up because a lot of things we

open up because a lot of things we believed were true turned out not to be

believed were true turned out not to be

believed were true turned out not to be one obvious question that that of course

one obvious question that that of course

one obvious question that that of course many have posed up and that became very

many have posed up and that became very

many have posed up and that became very important here in understanding the

important here in understanding the

important here in understanding the archaeological record was how many

archaeological record was how many

archaeological record was how many people did it take really did it take to

people did it take really did it take to

people did it take really did it take to move a statue did it really take

move a statue did it really take

move a statue did it really take thousands of people cutting down

thousands of people cutting down

thousands of people cutting down millions of trees thereby bringing down

millions of trees thereby bringing down

millions of trees thereby bringing down a society and its ecology as the

a society and its ecology as the

a society and its ecology as the traditional story goes is this really

traditional story goes is this really

traditional story goes is this really what it takes to

what it takes to

what it takes to make and move statues around so we

make and move statues around so we

make and move statues around so we started to explore that generally

started to explore that generally

started to explore that generally speaking the archaeological what

speaking the archaeological what

speaking the archaeological what archaeological explanations for how

archaeological explanations for how

archaeological explanations for how statues remove all involve one form or

statues remove all involve one form or

statues remove all involve one form or another some kind of wooden contraption

another some kind of wooden contraption

another some kind of wooden contraption and this connections with a contraption

and this connections with a contraption

and this connections with a contraption or some kind of wooden is really

or some kind of wooden is really

or some kind of wooden is really important for the the sort of

important for the the sort of

important for the the sort of traditional narrative because it’s the

traditional narrative because it’s the

traditional narrative because it’s the mechanism by which the forest gets cut

mechanism by which the forest gets cut

mechanism by which the forest gets cut down both for clearing land for food to

down both for clearing land for food to

down both for clearing land for food to support people who move the statues as

support people who move the statues as

support people who move the statues as well as the resources required to make

well as the resources required to make

well as the resources required to make the contraptions to move the statues

the contraptions to move the statues

the contraptions to move the statues around so this connection a lot of the

around so this connection a lot of the

around so this connection a lot of the explanations really put these two things

explanations really put these two things

explanations really put these two things together

together

together here’s rano raraku this is the quarry

here’s rano raraku this is the quarry

here’s rano raraku this is the quarry from which 99% of the statues were made

from which 99% of the statues were made

from which 99% of the statues were made and then moved from there and we can see

and then moved from there and we can see

and then moved from there and we can see all the statues that are stet we’re

all the statues that are stet we’re

all the statues that are stet we’re going to basically finish ready to be

going to basically finish ready to be

going to basically finish ready to be moved out and we can explain exactly why

moved out and we can explain exactly why

moved out and we can explain exactly why some of them are still there when we

some of them are still there when we

some of them are still there when we look at the quarry itself we see a sort

look at the quarry itself we see a sort

look at the quarry itself we see a sort of a pattern step-like pattern of

of a pattern step-like pattern of

of a pattern step-like pattern of construction and really this is well

construction and really this is well

construction and really this is well very visible and something you can go

very visible and something you can go

very visible and something you can go and observe you visit Rapa Nui today the

and observe you visit Rapa Nui today the

and observe you visit Rapa Nui today the statues are carved out of the bedrock

statues are carved out of the bedrock

statues are carved out of the bedrock and you see an a here the top side is

and you see an a here the top side is

and you see an a here the top side is carved out until they get to the

carved out until they get to the

carved out until they get to the underneath the statue where that the two

underneath the statue where that the two

underneath the statue where that the two sides the carving meets the create sort

sides the carving meets the create sort

sides the carving meets the create sort of a keel so the back is really

of a keel so the back is really

of a keel so the back is really unfinished as it’s carved out of the

unfinished as it’s carved out of the

unfinished as it’s carved out of the bedrock then once it’s broken from the

bedrock then once it’s broken from the

bedrock then once it’s broken from the bedrock it slid down the slope and

bedrock it slid down the slope and

bedrock it slid down the slope and generally the statues that are in the

generally the statues that are in the

generally the statues that are in the bedrock are up high on the slopes and

bedrock are up high on the slopes and

bedrock are up high on the slopes and this is important because it’s part of

this is important because it’s part of

this is important because it’s part of making them moving them from those

making them moving them from those

making them moving them from those locations is relatively easy because you

locations is relatively easy because you

locations is relatively easy because you can just slide them down the slopes and

can just slide them down the slopes and

can just slide them down the slopes and we can see that they’re slid down the

we can see that they’re slid down the

we can see that they’re slid down the slopes and then stood upright at the

slopes and then stood upright at the

slopes and then stood upright at the base of the slope in pits and we can see

base of the slope in pits and we can see

base of the slope in pits and we can see there’s a lot of the statues that you

there’s a lot of the statues that you

there’s a lot of the statues that you see outside and the quarry are standing

see outside and the quarry are standing

see outside and the quarry are standing up often buried up to their heads but

up often buried up to their heads but

up often buried up to their heads but though they’re actually in pits dug by

though they’re actually in pits dug by

though they’re actually in pits dug by prehistoric people and they’re put there

prehistoric people and they’re put there

prehistoric people and they’re put there in order to finish the statues because

in order to finish the statues because

in order to finish the statues because on the top part where they’re first

on the top part where they’re first

on the top part where they’re first carving them out of the bedrock they’re

carving them out of the bedrock they’re

carving them out of the bedrock they’re unable to finish the backside of them

unable to finish the backside of them

unable to finish the backside of them and so when they’re standing up they’re

and so when they’re standing up they’re

and so when they’re standing up they’re able to get to the backside and then

able to get to the backside and then

able to get to the backside and then complete the backend of the statue and

complete the backend of the statue and

complete the backend of the statue and prepare it for this next step which is

prepare it for this next step which is

prepare it for this next step which is transportation once they’re in the in

transportation once they’re in the in

transportation once they’re in the in the pits they’re actually in a standing

the pits they’re actually in a standing

the pits they’re actually in a standing position and then they’re moved out of

position and then they’re moved out of

position and then they’re moved out of there so they carve out the rest of the

there so they carve out the rest of the

there so they carve out the rest of the pit to create a trench to move the

pit to create a trench to move the

pit to create a trench to move the statues out we also see some real inter

statues out we also see some real inter

statues out we also see some real inter seeing differences in terms of the forms

seeing differences in terms of the forms

seeing differences in terms of the forms of the statues the ones that are on the

of the statues the ones that are on the

of the statues the ones that are on the roads versus the ones that are on the

roads versus the ones that are on the

roads versus the ones that are on the platforms the roads that are the moai

platforms the roads that are the moai

platforms the roads that are the moai that are on the roads tend to have a

that are on the roads tend to have a

that are on the roads tend to have a much wider base and have a really

much wider base and have a really

much wider base and have a really interesting forward lean the bases are

interesting forward lean the bases are

interesting forward lean the bases are actually angled so the statues are

actually angled so the statues are

actually angled so the statues are leaning very far forward to degree to

leaning very far forward to degree to

leaning very far forward to degree to which they actually can’t stand up on

which they actually can’t stand up on

which they actually can’t stand up on their own you have to actually prop them

their own you have to actually prop them

their own you have to actually prop them backwards to keep them standing in

backwards to keep them standing in

backwards to keep them standing in contrast the statues that are on the

contrast the statues that are on the

contrast the statues that are on the platform are actually straight up and

platform are actually straight up and

platform are actually straight up and down and have a great center of mass

down and have a great center of mass

down and have a great center of mass that makes them very stable which again

that makes them very stable which again

that makes them very stable which again what you would want to have a statute

what you would want to have a statute

what you would want to have a statute you’re going to put it on a pedestal

you’re going to put it on a pedestal

you’re going to put it on a pedestal you’d want it to be stable so it doesn’t

you’d want it to be stable so it doesn’t

you’d want it to be stable so it doesn’t fall down and crush you so these the

fall down and crush you so these the

fall down and crush you so these the differences between those is really

differences between those is really

differences between those is really telling us they’re shaped in a certain

telling us they’re shaped in a certain

telling us they’re shaped in a certain way before they get to the Yahoo and

way before they get to the Yahoo and

way before they get to the Yahoo and then once they get there they’re free to

then once they get there they’re free to

then once they get there they’re free to change them in addition the stat the

change them in addition the stat the

change them in addition the stat the statues that are at the platform have

statues that are at the platform have

statues that are at the platform have eyes carved into them the last step in

eyes carved into them the last step in

eyes carved into them the last step in carving the statue and finishing them

carving the statue and finishing them

carving the statue and finishing them before they’re they’re ready for the

before they’re they’re ready for the

before they’re they’re ready for the religious adorn and other activities

religious adorn and other activities

religious adorn and other activities that go on with that Native people

that go on with that Native people

that go on with that Native people practice there so in order to sort of

practice there so in order to sort of

practice there so in order to sort of explore explore this idea that there’s

explore explore this idea that there’s

explore explore this idea that there’s move standing and how this might

move standing and how this might

move standing and how this might actually work and in some of the physics

actually work and in some of the physics

actually work and in some of the physics of it we built a three-dimensional model

of it we built a three-dimensional model

of it we built a three-dimensional model a digital model to look at how the how

a digital model to look at how the how

a digital model to look at how the how the the center of mass might work and

the the center of mass might work and

the the center of mass might work and how these things that actually might be

how these things that actually might be

how these things that actually might be manipulated in order to make them moved

manipulated in order to make them moved

manipulated in order to make them moved we use the digital imagery lots of

we use the digital imagery lots of

we use the digital imagery lots of photographs that were then were merged

photographs that were then were merged

photographs that were then were merged together to create a three-dimensional

together to create a three-dimensional

together to create a three-dimensional point cloud which represented a statue

point cloud which represented a statue

point cloud which represented a statue and in the end it produced a really

and in the end it produced a really

and in the end it produced a really precise digital replica of a statue now

precise digital replica of a statue now

precise digital replica of a statue now the important part is this replica is of

the important part is this replica is of

the important part is this replica is of a road statue the statues once they get

a road statue the statues once they get

a road statue the statues once they get on they ah who are modified in order to

on they ah who are modified in order to

on they ah who are modified in order to be stable and ready for being on the

be stable and ready for being on the

be stable and ready for being on the platform but those ones in the road

platform but those ones in the road

platform but those ones in the road which this is a replica

which this is a replica

which this is a replica have these specific features of the

have these specific features of the

have these specific features of the angled base and the wide the wide basis

angled base and the wide the wide basis

angled base and the wide the wide basis and the forward leaning parts of it too

and the forward leaning parts of it too

and the forward leaning parts of it too so using this digital replica and then

so using this digital replica and then

so using this digital replica and then supported by the National Geographic

supported by the National Geographic

supported by the National Geographic expeditions Council we generated an

expeditions Council we generated an

expeditions Council we generated an actual replica a 5 ton ten-foot tall

actual replica a 5 ton ten-foot tall

actual replica a 5 ton ten-foot tall concrete replica of a road statue that

concrete replica of a road statue that

concrete replica of a road statue that precisely modeled a real statue that’s

precisely modeled a real statue that’s

precisely modeled a real statue that’s on Easter Island this five

on Easter Island this five

on Easter Island this five ton ten-foot-tall replica we called it

ton ten-foot-tall replica we called it

ton ten-foot-tall replica we called it named it ho to ET and it is literally

named it ho to ET and it is literally

named it ho to ET and it is literally one of the most in moving countered and

one of the most in moving countered and

one of the most in moving countered and we were we took on the task of trying to

we were we took on the task of trying to

we were we took on the task of trying to see if we could get it to move in a

see if we could get it to move in a

see if we could get it to move in a standing position set to replicate what

standing position set to replicate what

standing position set to replicate what we thought was going on pre historically

we thought was going on pre historically

we thought was going on pre historically what we ended up with is a model that is

what we ended up with is a model that is

what we ended up with is a model that is consistent with the evidence the

consistent with the evidence the

consistent with the evidence the archaeological evidence and consistent

archaeological evidence and consistent

archaeological evidence and consistent with basic physics about how you might

with basic physics about how you might

with basic physics about how you might move something that is this tall at

move something that is this tall at

move something that is this tall at using the features of the center of mass

using the features of the center of mass

using the features of the center of mass of this statue itself in order to assist

of this statue itself in order to assist

of this statue itself in order to assist you in doing so the statue basically by

you in doing so the statue basically by

you in doing so the statue basically by rocket by hat because it has a forward

rocket by hat because it has a forward

rocket by hat because it has a forward lean by rocking it back and forth what

lean by rocking it back and forth what

lean by rocking it back and forth what happens is that the statue tends to fall

happens is that the statue tends to fall

happens is that the statue tends to fall forward and as it falls forward on the

forward and as it falls forward on the

forward and as it falls forward on the front edge it actually takes a step so

front edge it actually takes a step so

front edge it actually takes a step so each time you walk forward you get it

each time you walk forward you get it

each time you walk forward you get it you get a step in a twist and so you get

you get a step in a twist and so you get

you get a step in a twist and so you get this rocking and rolling motion that

this rocking and rolling motion that

this rocking and rolling motion that causes the statue to move forward and so

causes the statue to move forward and so

causes the statue to move forward and so it’s essentially what we expected to

it’s essentially what we expected to

it’s essentially what we expected to happen was if we could figure out where

happen was if we could figure out where

happen was if we could figure out where to tie the ropes and if we could pull

to tie the ropes and if we could pull

to tie the ropes and if we could pull the things in the right direction the

the things in the right direction the

the things in the right direction the statue should actually start to take

statue should actually start to take

statue should actually start to take steps and move on its own well it’s

steps and move on its own well it’s

steps and move on its own well it’s great to talk about that in sections say

great to talk about that in sections say

great to talk about that in sections say yes well this definitely shows this is

yes well this definitely shows this is

yes well this definitely shows this is possible and so we took Howe to ET and

possible and so we took Howe to ET and

possible and so we took Howe to ET and actually took on the task of trying to

actually took on the task of trying to

actually took on the task of trying to make this happen and we got the results

make this happen and we got the results

make this happen and we got the results here this of course is at the end of

here this of course is at the end of

here this of course is at the end of several days of lots of things that

several days of lots of things that

several days of lots of things that didn’t work but uh yeah but once we

didn’t work but uh yeah but once we

didn’t work but uh yeah but once we really we had to trust the statue to be

really we had to trust the statue to be

really we had to trust the statue to be shaped in a way that it would do its

shaped in a way that it would do its

shaped in a way that it would do its thing and once it once we put in the

thing and once it once we put in the

thing and once it once we put in the right things it just did its own it

right things it just did its own it

right things it just did its own it started to walk and it was easy once it

started to walk and it was easy once it

started to walk and it was easy once it got going

you see people pulling basically one arm

you see people pulling basically one arm [Music]

[Music]

[Music] sir thank you that is a lot of fun we we

sir thank you that is a lot of fun we we

sir thank you that is a lot of fun we we were we were very happy when that

were we were very happy when that

were we were very happy when that happened and here it is with the

happened and here it is with the

happened and here it is with the beautiful artwork from National

beautiful artwork from National

beautiful artwork from National Geographic what was remarkable to us is

Geographic what was remarkable to us is

Geographic what was remarkable to us is that once we we sort of removed our own

that once we we sort of removed our own

that once we we sort of removed our own preconceptions about what needed to be

preconceptions about what needed to be

preconceptions about what needed to be done the statute really was engineered

done the statute really was engineered

done the statute really was engineered to do this it was really the center of

to do this it was really the center of

to do this it was really the center of mass was such that that it wanted to

mass was such that that it wanted to

mass was such that that it wanted to walk all we had to do was not assume

walk all we had to do was not assume

walk all we had to do was not assume that we had to drag it in a particular

that we had to drag it in a particular

that we had to drag it in a particular twist it it was really just input in

twist it it was really just input in

twist it it was really just input in putting the right amount of twist mind

putting the right amount of twist mind

putting the right amount of twist mind amount of energy and it was really built

amount of energy and it was really built

amount of energy and it was really built to walk we were able to move it 100

to walk we were able to move it 100

to walk we were able to move it 100 meters in about 40 minutes really is a

meters in about 40 minutes really is a

meters in about 40 minutes really is a trivial kind of amount of energy but

trivial kind of amount of energy but

trivial kind of amount of energy but really that’s a more testament to the

really that’s a more testament to the

really that’s a more testament to the amount of engineering that went into

amount of engineering that went into

amount of engineering that went into making these things so that was possible

making these things so that was possible

making these things so that was possible in fact really easy to move so really

in fact really easy to move so really

in fact really easy to move so really wasn’t armies of people necessary to do

wasn’t armies of people necessary to do

wasn’t armies of people necessary to do this small groups could have done this

this small groups could have done this

this small groups could have done this family sized groups could have made

family sized groups could have made

family sized groups could have made these statues moving and the question

these statues moving and the question

these statues moving and the question about well this is only a five ton

about well this is only a five ton

about well this is only a five ton statues and only 10 feet tall what about

statues and only 10 feet tall what about

statues and only 10 feet tall what about the larger ones well in fact this method

the larger ones well in fact this method

the larger ones well in fact this method of moving wouldn’t necessarily require

of moving wouldn’t necessarily require

of moving wouldn’t necessarily require you know to make it 20 foot statue

you know to make it 20 foot statue

you know to make it 20 foot statue wouldn’t require two times the people

wouldn’t require two times the people

wouldn’t require two times the people because as they get taller you actually

because as they get taller you actually

because as they get taller you actually get more leverage to be able to tilt it

get more leverage to be able to tilt it

get more leverage to be able to tilt it back and forth so it actually may have

back and forth so it actually may have

back and forth so it actually may have not required a lot more people as the

not required a lot more people as the

not required a lot more people as the statues got larger and larger well we

statues got larger and larger well we

statues got larger and larger well we want to propose to you that well this is

want to propose to you that well this is

want to propose to you that well this is absolutely amazing it’s perhaps not the

absolutely amazing it’s perhaps not the

absolutely amazing it’s perhaps not the greatest achievement of the ancient

greatest achievement of the ancient

greatest achievement of the ancient Islanders it was the great in fact the

Islanders it was the great in fact the

Islanders it was the great in fact the greatest achievement was creating a

greatest achievement was creating a

greatest achievement was creating a sustainable society that survived for

sustainable society that survived for

sustainable society that survived for about 500 years on a remote and

about 500 years on a remote and

about 500 years on a remote and difficult island while sailing over

difficult island while sailing over

difficult island while sailing over 3,000 kilometers from central Polynesia

3,000 kilometers from central Polynesia

3,000 kilometers from central Polynesia the colonists of Rapa Nui were no doubt

the colonists of Rapa Nui were no doubt

the colonists of Rapa Nui were no doubt happy to find land in the empty and

happy to find land in the empty and

happy to find land in the empty and turbulent seas of the southwestern

turbulent seas of the southwestern

turbulent seas of the southwestern Pacific but they may have been a little

Pacific but they may have been a little

Pacific but they may have been a little disappointed when they examined their

disappointed when they examined their

disappointed when they examined their new home unlike many other islands in

new home unlike many other islands in

new home unlike many other islands in paulin

paulin

paulin Asia perhaps like the area that they

Asia perhaps like the area that they

Asia perhaps like the area that they came from in central Polynesia Rapa Nui

came from in central Polynesia Rapa Nui

came from in central Polynesia Rapa Nui had no natural streams the colonists

had no natural streams the colonists

had no natural streams the colonists would soon learn that growing their

would soon learn that growing their

would soon learn that growing their crops would rely only on rainfall well

crops would rely only on rainfall well

crops would rely only on rainfall well I’m afraid there was more bad news the

I’m afraid there was more bad news the

I’m afraid there was more bad news the waters around Rapa Nui are not

waters around Rapa Nui are not

waters around Rapa Nui are not particularly rich with fish our

particularly rich with fish our

particularly rich with fish our excavations revealed that most of the

excavations revealed that most of the

excavations revealed that most of the fish were from the rocky near shore

fish were from the rocky near shore

fish were from the rocky near shore waters large deep-sea fish such as tuna

waters large deep-sea fish such as tuna

waters large deep-sea fish such as tuna were not all that common

were not all that common

were not all that common archaeologically we eat them and we

archaeologically we eat them and we

archaeologically we eat them and we enjoy them today but not so common in

enjoy them today but not so common in

enjoy them today but not so common in the past it seems people did not go

the past it seems people did not go

the past it seems people did not go deep-sea fishing why didn’t they well

deep-sea fishing why didn’t they well

deep-sea fishing why didn’t they well the option seems to be taken was taken

the option seems to be taken was taken

the option seems to be taken was taken from them though the island had a dense

from them though the island had a dense

from them though the island had a dense forest it was comprised of palm trees

forest it was comprised of palm trees

forest it was comprised of palm trees with thin brittle bark and soft fibrous

with thin brittle bark and soft fibrous

with thin brittle bark and soft fibrous interiors making them really useless for

interiors making them really useless for

interiors making them really useless for canoes it’s kind of like a barrel

canoes it’s kind of like a barrel

canoes it’s kind of like a barrel once the vessels they had arrived on

once the vessels they had arrived on

once the vessels they had arrived on we’re no longer seaworthy the Islanders

we’re no longer seaworthy the Islanders

we’re no longer seaworthy the Islanders could not really do much deep-sea

could not really do much deep-sea

could not really do much deep-sea fishing this means they also lost the

fishing this means they also lost the

fishing this means they also lost the opportunity to voyage in search of new

opportunity to voyage in search of new

opportunity to voyage in search of new islands when times got tough so the

islands when times got tough so the

islands when times got tough so the colors who arrived on Rapa Nui had to

colors who arrived on Rapa Nui had to

colors who arrived on Rapa Nui had to make an important decision unless they

make an important decision unless they

make an important decision unless they returned on the same broke boats that

returned on the same broke boats that

returned on the same broke boats that brought them to the island there would

brought them to the island there would

brought them to the island there would be no next opportunity the giant palm

be no next opportunity the giant palm

be no next opportunity the giant palm trees numbering the millions were

trees numbering the millions were

trees numbering the millions were unsuitable for carving canoes that

unsuitable for carving canoes that

unsuitable for carving canoes that people had to make a living on Rapa Nui

people had to make a living on Rapa Nui

people had to make a living on Rapa Nui or they would suffer perhaps they would

or they would suffer perhaps they would

or they would suffer perhaps they would even die well these giant statues nearly

even die well these giant statues nearly

even die well these giant statues nearly a thousand of them suggest pretty

a thousand of them suggest pretty

a thousand of them suggest pretty dramatic story unfolded how did people

dramatic story unfolded how did people

dramatic story unfolded how did people sustain themselves on this rather

sustain themselves on this rather

sustain themselves on this rather difficult and challenging Island this is

difficult and challenging Island this is

difficult and challenging Island this is the question that we would try to answer

the question that we would try to answer

the question that we would try to answer in our research well over a several

in our research well over a several

in our research well over a several seasons of fieldwork we excavated on the

seasons of fieldwork we excavated on the

seasons of fieldwork we excavated on the on a kena dune you can see it here in

on a kena dune you can see it here in

on a kena dune you can see it here in Google Earth satellite imagery the beach

Google Earth satellite imagery the beach

Google Earth satellite imagery the beach here on the North Shore of the island

here on the North Shore of the island

here on the North Shore of the island and the dune that forms from it and in

and the dune that forms from it and in

and the dune that forms from it and in the next photo we can see the low

the next photo we can see the low

the next photo we can see the low elevation aerial photograph that we took

elevation aerial photograph that we took

elevation aerial photograph that we took from attaching a camera to a kite that’s

from attaching a camera to a kite that’s

from attaching a camera to a kite that’s a lot of fun

a lot of fun

a lot of fun and you can see the ahoo here and the

and you can see the ahoo here and the

and you can see the ahoo here and the statues they’re showing their shadows

statues they’re showing their shadows

statues they’re showing their shadows there in the front and then in the upper

there in the front and then in the upper

there in the front and then in the upper part of the slide you can see our

part of the slide you can see our

part of the slide you can see our excavations with a little wind barrier

excavations with a little wind barrier

excavations with a little wind barrier around it on the dune well the

around it on the dune well the

around it on the dune well the surprising thing in those excavations we

surprising thing in those excavations we

surprising thing in those excavations we thought that the island was probably

thought that the island was probably

thought that the island was probably settled around six 800 AD we were sort

settled around six 800 AD we were sort

settled around six 800 AD we were sort of going with the consensus at that time

of going with the consensus at that time

of going with the consensus at that time as it turned out the oldest cultural

as it turned out the oldest cultural

as it turned out the oldest cultural layers in this excavation and indeed the

layers in this excavation and indeed the

layers in this excavation and indeed the colonization of the island turned out to

colonization of the island turned out to

colonization of the island turned out to be only 800 years ago turned out to be

be only 800 years ago turned out to be

be only 800 years ago turned out to be around 1200 AD we realized in Rapa Nui

around 1200 AD we realized in Rapa Nui

around 1200 AD we realized in Rapa Nui that if something as fundamental as the

that if something as fundamental as the

that if something as fundamental as the radiocarbon date the first the

radiocarbon date the first the

radiocarbon date the first the settlement date was wrong for the island

settlement date was wrong for the island

settlement date was wrong for the island what else might be wrong well we’re

what else might be wrong well we’re

what else might be wrong well we’re going to head north for a moment head

going to head north for a moment head

going to head north for a moment head home and tell you about evidence from

home and tell you about evidence from

home and tell you about evidence from the Hawaiian Islands that really started

the Hawaiian Islands that really started

the Hawaiian Islands that really started to paint a different picture of Rapa Nui

to paint a different picture of Rapa Nui

to paint a different picture of Rapa Nui as well in the Hawaiian Islands before

as well in the Hawaiian Islands before

as well in the Hawaiian Islands before the arrival of Polynesians around 1200

the arrival of Polynesians around 1200

the arrival of Polynesians around 1200 AD the lowlands had been covered in a

AD the lowlands had been covered in a

AD the lowlands had been covered in a forest of native palm trees these palm

forest of native palm trees these palm

forest of native palm trees these palm trees are called perch artyom and they

trees are called perch artyom and they

trees are called perch artyom and they look like this but once Polynesians

look like this but once Polynesians

look like this but once Polynesians arrived the Hawaiian palm forest

arrived the Hawaiian palm forest

arrived the Hawaiian palm forest disappeared and they disappeared fast

disappeared and they disappeared fast

disappeared and they disappeared fast with perhaps just a feud in a few

with perhaps just a feud in a few

with perhaps just a feud in a few decades these forests had crashed many

decades these forests had crashed many

decades these forests had crashed many archaeologists had blamed Polynesians

archaeologists had blamed Polynesians

archaeologists had blamed Polynesians for using fire to clear land for

for using fire to clear land for

for using fire to clear land for agriculture

agriculture

agriculture however puzzling new evidence indicated

however puzzling new evidence indicated

however puzzling new evidence indicated that these palms had disappeared almost

that these palms had disappeared almost

that these palms had disappeared almost instantaneously but with no trace of

instantaneously but with no trace of

instantaneously but with no trace of burning it seems that the Pacific rat

burning it seems that the Pacific rat

burning it seems that the Pacific rat Rattus excellence who had arrived on the

Rattus excellence who had arrived on the

Rattus excellence who had arrived on the colonizers first canoes enjoyed an

colonizers first canoes enjoyed an

colonizers first canoes enjoyed an environment free of predators and full

environment free of predators and full

environment free of predators and full of native plants with fruits and seeds

of native plants with fruits and seeds

of native plants with fruits and seeds rats can consume hard fix seed cases and

rats can consume hard fix seed cases and

rats can consume hard fix seed cases and they destroy the reproductive potential

they destroy the reproductive potential

they destroy the reproductive potential of many of the seeds they consume and

of many of the seeds they consume and

of many of the seeds they consume and their impact had been Swift and

their impact had been Swift and

their impact had been Swift and devastating

devastating

devastating well the implications for Rapa Nui were

well the implications for Rapa Nui were

well the implications for Rapa Nui were startling during our first excavations

startling during our first excavations

startling during our first excavations we had been surprised to find so many

we had been surprised to find so many

we had been surprised to find so many rat bones in the lowest layers of our

rat bones in the lowest layers of our

rat bones in the lowest layers of our excavations but now we could put two and

excavations but now we could put two and

excavations but now we could put two and two together the story from Hawaii was

two together the story from Hawaii was

two together the story from Hawaii was telling us something about Rapa Nui if

telling us something about Rapa Nui if

telling us something about Rapa Nui if rats played a huge role in deforestation

rats played a huge role in deforestation

rats played a huge role in deforestation in the Hawaiian Islands think of the

in the Hawaiian Islands think of the

in the Hawaiian Islands think of the impact they might have on tiny Rapa Nui

impact they might have on tiny Rapa Nui

impact they might have on tiny Rapa Nui these rats could breed at staggering

these rats could breed at staggering

these rats could breed at staggering rates doubling their numbers every 47

rates doubling their numbers every 47

rates doubling their numbers every 47 days a mating pair of rat can become a

days a mating pair of rat can become a

days a mating pair of rat can become a population of millions in a couple of

population of millions in a couple of

population of millions in a couple of years if you actually do the math in

years if you actually do the math in

years if you actually do the math in about just under three years two rats

about just under three years two rats

about just under three years two rats can make 17 million given Rapa Nui size

can make 17 million given Rapa Nui size

can make 17 million given Rapa Nui size it could have supported a rat population

it could have supported a rat population

it could have supported a rat population of about two to three million indeed

of about two to three million indeed

of about two to three million indeed hundreds of palm nuts and you can see

hundreds of palm nuts and you can see

hundreds of palm nuts and you can see them here that have been discovered on

them here that have been discovered on

them here that have been discovered on Rapa Nui show the tell-tale signs of rat

Rapa Nui show the tell-tale signs of rat

Rapa Nui show the tell-tale signs of rat gnawing and total seed destruction these

gnawing and total seed destruction these

gnawing and total seed destruction these seeds are not going to grow once they’ve

seeds are not going to grow once they’ve

seeds are not going to grow once they’ve been eaten like that and if we take a

been eaten like that and if we take a

been eaten like that and if we take a look under the microscope here we see an

look under the microscope here we see an

look under the microscope here we see an ancient Judea palm nut and the Tel

ancient Judea palm nut and the Tel

ancient Judea palm nut and the Tel Terran incisor marks of rats that’s kind

Terran incisor marks of rats that’s kind

Terran incisor marks of rats that’s kind of the smoking gun there well add to

of the smoking gun there well add to

of the smoking gun there well add to this fire Polynesians completed what

this fire Polynesians completed what

this fire Polynesians completed what rats started but what they were doing

rats started but what they were doing

rats started but what they were doing was transforming a natural environment

was transforming a natural environment

was transforming a natural environment into an agricultural environment like

into an agricultural environment like

into an agricultural environment like people have done all over the world

people have done all over the world

people have done all over the world burning provided a short-term release of

burning provided a short-term release of

burning provided a short-term release of nutrients that helped the poor soils of

nutrients that helped the poor soils of

nutrients that helped the poor soils of Rapa Nui well in terms of biodiversity

Rapa Nui well in terms of biodiversity

Rapa Nui well in terms of biodiversity the loss of the forest was an ecological

the loss of the forest was an ecological

the loss of the forest was an ecological catastrophe there were extinctions that

catastrophe there were extinctions that

catastrophe there were extinctions that occurred but in human terms there is no

occurred but in human terms there is no

occurred but in human terms there is no evidence that the forest provided an

evidence that the forest provided an

evidence that the forest provided an important source of food or other

important source of food or other

important source of food or other resources they weren’t useful for canoes

resources they weren’t useful for canoes

resources they weren’t useful for canoes etc the loss of forests did not greatly

etc the loss of forests did not greatly

etc the loss of forests did not greatly affect the ability of people to feed

affect the ability of people to feed

affect the ability of people to feed themselves in some ways the forest was

themselves in some ways the forest was

themselves in some ways the forest was in the way as long as there were trees

in the way as long as there were trees

in the way as long as there were trees there would be palm nuts as long as

there would be palm nuts as long as

there would be palm nuts as long as there were palm nuts there would be rats

there were palm nuts there would be rats

there were palm nuts there would be rats that fed on them so the gradual decline

that fed on them so the gradual decline

that fed on them so the gradual decline of the forest opened up more land for

of the forest opened up more land for

of the forest opened up more land for cultivation of staples such as taro and

cultivation of staples such as taro and

cultivation of staples such as taro and sweet potatoes

but the big questions really still

but the big questions really still remain unanswered we understand a little

remain unanswered we understand a little

remain unanswered we understand a little bit more about the transformation the

bit more about the transformation the

bit more about the transformation the island into a cultivated landscape but

island into a cultivated landscape but

island into a cultivated landscape but we still still understand the state

we still still understand the state

we still still understand the state related to the moai the statues

related to the moai the statues

related to the moai the statues what role did the the moai play why here

what role did the the moai play why here

what role did the the moai play why here of any place there had to be a reason

of any place there had to be a reason

of any place there had to be a reason why society showed such an immense and

why society showed such an immense and

why society showed such an immense and intense interest in commitment to statue

intense interest in commitment to statue

intense interest in commitment to statue building what many ways we think the

building what many ways we think the

building what many ways we think the island has been really misunderstood the

island has been really misunderstood the

island has been really misunderstood the and really because we bring lots of

and really because we bring lots of

and really because we bring lots of preconceptions about the way things

preconceptions about the way things

preconceptions about the way things should be vast area the Ion vast areas

should be vast area the Ion vast areas

should be vast area the Ion vast areas of the island are covered in stone

of the island are covered in stone

of the island are covered in stone during our initial field seasons we had

during our initial field seasons we had

during our initial field seasons we had looked at these carpets of volcanic rock

looked at these carpets of volcanic rock

looked at these carpets of volcanic rock and assumed that they are natural

and assumed that they are natural

and assumed that they are natural geologic features but they’re actually

geologic features but they’re actually

geologic features but they’re actually engineered human created landscapes that

engineered human created landscapes that

engineered human created landscapes that people are making these rocks breaking

people are making these rocks breaking

people are making these rocks breaking these rocks and putting them there for a

these rocks and putting them there for a

these rocks and putting them there for a particular purpose a solution to

particular purpose a solution to

particular purpose a solution to problems of growing the crops in this

problems of growing the crops in this

problems of growing the crops in this poor soil that also coupled with

poor soil that also coupled with

poor soil that also coupled with irregular rainfall and then occasionally

irregular rainfall and then occasionally

irregular rainfall and then occasionally strong winds and we saw that what Robin

strong winds and we saw that what Robin

strong winds and we saw that what Robin knew if people were doing was growing

knew if people were doing was growing

knew if people were doing was growing crops in a way in this rock mulch as a

crops in a way in this rock mulch as a

crops in a way in this rock mulch as a way of being sustainable and that that

way of being sustainable and that that

way of being sustainable and that that provided a really different kind of path

provided a really different kind of path

provided a really different kind of path to success well a tradition of statue

to success well a tradition of statue

to success well a tradition of statue carving already existed in central

carving already existed in central

carving already existed in central Polynesia where Rapa Nui people came

Polynesia where Rapa Nui people came

Polynesia where Rapa Nui people came from and they did statue carving for

from and they did statue carving for

from and they did statue carving for religious reasons it makes perfect sense

religious reasons it makes perfect sense

religious reasons it makes perfect sense imagine their perspective on this we

imagine their perspective on this we

imagine their perspective on this we build statues and monuments to our

build statues and monuments to our

build statues and monuments to our deified ancestors because it’s the right

deified ancestors because it’s the right

deified ancestors because it’s the right thing to do going back in time they

thing to do going back in time they

thing to do going back in time they might ask you don’t you build statues to

might ask you don’t you build statues to

might ask you don’t you build statues to your ancestors this cultural even

your ancestors this cultural even

your ancestors this cultural even religious rationale had the unintended

religious rationale had the unintended

religious rationale had the unintended consequences of diverting time and

consequences of diverting time and

consequences of diverting time and energy away from larger garden plots and

energy away from larger garden plots and

energy away from larger garden plots and therefore larger families which the

therefore larger families which the

therefore larger families which the limited environment of the island could

limited environment of the island could

limited environment of the island could not possibly sustain so honoring your

not possibly sustain so honoring your

not possibly sustain so honoring your ancestors appeasing the gods was exactly

ancestors appeasing the gods was exactly

ancestors appeasing the gods was exactly the right thing to do and it yielded a

the right thing to do and it yielded a

the right thing to do and it yielded a sort of a big evolutionary payoff for

sort of a big evolutionary payoff for

sort of a big evolutionary payoff for people on the island the basis of the

people on the island the basis of the

people on the island the basis of the argument is really just simple Darwinian

argument is really just simple Darwinian

argument is really just simple Darwinian Ellucian small isolated populations with

Ellucian small isolated populations with

Ellucian small isolated populations with unpredictable and limited resources just

unpredictable and limited resources just

unpredictable and limited resources just like prehistoric Rapa Nui are exactly

like prehistoric Rapa Nui are exactly

like prehistoric Rapa Nui are exactly the kinds of places that one would

the kinds of places that one would

the kinds of places that one would expect to see elaborate cultural

expect to see elaborate cultural

expect to see elaborate cultural investments appear in a population now

investments appear in a population now

investments appear in a population now this making statues may be amazing to us

this making statues may be amazing to us

this making statues may be amazing to us but really statues building statues is

but really statues building statues is

but really statues building statues is exactly the right thing to do in this

exactly the right thing to do in this

exactly the right thing to do in this particular kind of environment well the

particular kind of environment well the

particular kind of environment well the descendants of the ancient Islanders are

descendants of the ancient Islanders are

descendants of the ancient Islanders are still on the island today a lot of

still on the island today a lot of

still on the island today a lot of people ask us well where did all the

people ask us well where did all the

people ask us well where did all the people go and we say well they are there

people go and we say well they are there

people go and we say well they are there and some are here tonight they live

and some are here tonight they live

and some are here tonight they live among nearly a thousand statues and it’s

among nearly a thousand statues and it’s

among nearly a thousand statues and it’s really it’s really that we owe them an

really it’s really that we owe them an

really it’s really that we owe them an explanation of what happened on that

explanation of what happened on that

explanation of what happened on that island we need we need to understand

island we need we need to understand

island we need we need to understand what happened on that island and get it

what happened on that island and get it

what happened on that island and get it right so what we’ve offered this evening

right so what we’ve offered this evening

right so what we’ve offered this evening is quite a different perspective of Rapa

is quite a different perspective of Rapa

is quite a different perspective of Rapa Nui history good science requires that

Nui history good science requires that

Nui history good science requires that we critically evaluate ideas in light of

we critically evaluate ideas in light of

we critically evaluate ideas in light of the evidence we can’t just make things

the evidence we can’t just make things

the evidence we can’t just make things up we need to account for what’s there

up we need to account for what’s there

up we need to account for what’s there on the ground what really happened our

on the ground what really happened our

on the ground what really happened our research has revealed that the ancient

research has revealed that the ancient

research has revealed that the ancient Islanders were not reckless our research

Islanders were not reckless our research

Islanders were not reckless our research has revealed that the ancient Islanders

has revealed that the ancient Islanders

has revealed that the ancient Islanders were not crazy they did exactly the

were not crazy they did exactly the

were not crazy they did exactly the right thing for that Island

right thing for that Island

right thing for that Island they were ingenious engineers in terms

they were ingenious engineers in terms

they were ingenious engineers in terms of not only statues and moving them but

of not only statues and moving them but

of not only statues and moving them but also agriculture and sustainability and

also agriculture and sustainability and

also agriculture and sustainability and the stability of that agriculture they

the stability of that agriculture they

the stability of that agriculture they avoided collapse on a small poor and

avoided collapse on a small poor and

avoided collapse on a small poor and isolated island they are the story of

isolated island they are the story of

isolated island they are the story of remarkable success the only collapse the

remarkable success the only collapse the

remarkable success the only collapse the only collapse came with the diseases

only collapse came with the diseases

only collapse came with the diseases introduced from the outside world after

introduced from the outside world after

introduced from the outside world after 1720 – and as a result of it well we

1720 – and as a result of it well we

1720 – and as a result of it well we believe that understanding the past and

believe that understanding the past and

believe that understanding the past and getting the details right and being

getting the details right and being

getting the details right and being accountable for that has much to offer

accountable for that has much to offer

accountable for that has much to offer in knowing who we are and where we are

in knowing who we are and where we are

in knowing who we are and where we are heading in these most challenging times

heading in these most challenging times

heading in these most challenging times the tiny yet very

the tiny yet very

the tiny yet very special island of Rapa Nui offers a

special island of Rapa Nui offers a

special island of Rapa Nui offers a message from the past for all of our

message from the past for all of our

message from the past for all of our futures thank you very much thank you

futures thank you very much thank you

futures thank you very much thank you [Applause]

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