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hi everyone

hi everyone so yeah I’m an engineer which is kind of

so yeah I’m an engineer which is kind of

so yeah I’m an engineer which is kind of a strange thing to be involved in

a strange thing to be involved in

a strange thing to be involved in conservation work but you know I my day

conservation work but you know I my day

conservation work but you know I my day job is I’m a satellite propulsion

job is I’m a satellite propulsion

job is I’m a satellite propulsion engineer so that basically means that I

engineer so that basically means that I

engineer so that basically means that I use rocket science to help get

use rocket science to help get

use rocket science to help get satellites and other unmanned spacecraft

satellites and other unmanned spacecraft

satellites and other unmanned spacecraft from Earth into the orbital slot that

from Earth into the orbital slot that

from Earth into the orbital slot that they need to sit in and it was when I

they need to sit in and it was when I

they need to sit in and it was when I went to Stanford where I really kind of

went to Stanford where I really kind of

went to Stanford where I really kind of saw the real issue behind what’s going

saw the real issue behind what’s going

saw the real issue behind what’s going on with our oceans and it was there that

on with our oceans and it was there that

on with our oceans and it was there that I saw a good fit for a technology-based

I saw a good fit for a technology-based

I saw a good fit for a technology-based solution so the tragedy of our ocean

solution so the tragedy of our ocean

solution so the tragedy of our ocean comments our oceans are at this very

comments our oceans are at this very

comments our oceans are at this very unique point right now and they have a

unique point right now and they have a

unique point right now and they have a different kind of conservation challenge

different kind of conservation challenge

different kind of conservation challenge than maybe some of like the terrestrial

than maybe some of like the terrestrial

than maybe some of like the terrestrial challenges and part of the reason why is

challenges and part of the reason why is

challenges and part of the reason why is is because of this a lot of the times

is because of this a lot of the times

is because of this a lot of the times when people look out at the oceans they

when people look out at the oceans they

when people look out at the oceans they see just this they see the surface so it

see just this they see the surface so it

see just this they see the surface so it makes it a little difficult to

makes it a little difficult to

makes it a little difficult to demonstrate the dire need in protecting

demonstrate the dire need in protecting

demonstrate the dire need in protecting the species under there when most people

the species under there when most people

the species under there when most people just look out and they only see this so

just look out and they only see this so

just look out and they only see this so I’m I wish it was just as easy to look

I’m I wish it was just as easy to look

I’m I wish it was just as easy to look out here and tell the number of bluefin

out here and tell the number of bluefin

out here and tell the number of bluefin tuna remaining you know as we can look

tuna remaining you know as we can look

tuna remaining you know as we can look out and see how many black rhino or

out and see how many black rhino or

out and see how many black rhino or Mexican gray wolf are still out there so

Mexican gray wolf are still out there so

Mexican gray wolf are still out there so overfishing I’m sure a lot of you guys

overfishing I’m sure a lot of you guys

overfishing I’m sure a lot of you guys have heard the statistics on how bad it

have heard the statistics on how bad it

have heard the statistics on how bad it really truly is but but overfishing and

really truly is but but overfishing and

really truly is but but overfishing and illegal fishing is currently kind of the

illegal fishing is currently kind of the

illegal fishing is currently kind of the greatest risk we have to our ocean and

greatest risk we have to our ocean and

greatest risk we have to our ocean and coastal ecosystems not only that but it

coastal ecosystems not only that but it

coastal ecosystems not only that but it has huge implications on global food

has huge implications on global food

has huge implications on global food security and it could really really

security and it could really really

security and it could really really cause a huge huge issue in our future

cause a huge huge issue in our future

cause a huge huge issue in our future and so I’m sure you’ve heard this

and so I’m sure you’ve heard this

and so I’m sure you’ve heard this statistics before you know ninety

statistics before you know ninety

statistics before you know ninety percent of our large fish have

percent of our large fish have

percent of our large fish have disappeared we can possibly get to the

disappeared we can possibly get to the

disappeared we can possibly get to the point in this century where global foods

point in this century where global foods

point in this century where global foods fish stocks could collapse and our

fish stocks could collapse and our

fish stocks could collapse and our current fishing fleet is about

current fishing fleet is about

current fishing fleet is about halftimes what are the capacity of our

halftimes what are the capacity of our

halftimes what are the capacity of our planet can sustainably handle so what

planet can sustainably handle so what

planet can sustainably handle so what can we do to change this well to get

can we do to change this well to get

can we do to change this well to get into that I’m gonna talk a little bit

into that I’m gonna talk a little bit

into that I’m gonna talk a little bit about a story I went to Palau in 2009

about a story I went to Palau in 2009

about a story I went to Palau in 2009 was with Stanford University and the

was with Stanford University and the

was with Stanford University and the point of the trip was to really talk to

point of the trip was to really talk to

point of the trip was to really talk to the people of Palau about

the people of Palau about

the people of Palau about entrepreneurship but we had a focus that

entrepreneurship but we had a focus that

entrepreneurship but we had a focus that we wanted to talk to him about how they

we wanted to talk to him about how they

we wanted to talk to him about how they can do things to improve their

can do things to improve their

can do things to improve their environment and improve their economy at

environment and improve their economy at

environment and improve their economy at the same time we called the series of

the same time we called the series of

the same time we called the series of meetings we had green plow I mean my

meetings we had green plow I mean my

meetings we had green plow I mean my whole purpose there was to talk about

whole purpose there was to talk about

whole purpose there was to talk about how they could use technology

how they could use technology

how they could use technology specifically low cost technology to help

specifically low cost technology to help

specifically low cost technology to help protect this pristine environment you

protect this pristine environment you

protect this pristine environment you see behind me here it was really a

see behind me here it was really a

see behind me here it was really a perfect time to be there too we came

perfect time to be there too we came

perfect time to be there too we came right after plows presidents stood up in

right after plows presidents stood up in

right after plows presidents stood up in front of the UN General Assembly and

front of the UN General Assembly and

front of the UN General Assembly and declared all of plows waters a shark

declared all of plows waters a shark

declared all of plows waters a shark sanctuary so that’s six hundred thousand

sanctuary so that’s six hundred thousand

sanctuary so that’s six hundred thousand square kilometers right there was a

square kilometers right there was a

square kilometers right there was a shark sanctuary well while I was in

shark sanctuary well while I was in

shark sanctuary well while I was in Palau I had a chance to do some field

Palau I had a chance to do some field

Palau I had a chance to do some field work and I was talking to a lot of the

work and I was talking to a lot of the

work and I was talking to a lot of the people there about the current state of

people there about the current state of

people there about the current state of their oceans and really what they

their oceans and really what they

their oceans and really what they thought was going on out there and and I

thought was going on out there and and I

thought was going on out there and and I got the chance to talk to quite a few

got the chance to talk to quite a few

got the chance to talk to quite a few people you know people that you would

people you know people that you would

people you know people that you would think would have a better idea about

think would have a better idea about

think would have a better idea about what was going on in their oceans and I

what was going on in their oceans and I

what was going on in their oceans and I got to ask them in your opinion how many

got to ask them in your opinion how many

got to ask them in your opinion how many boats do you actually think are out

boats do you actually think are out

boats do you actually think are out there that plow doesn’t know about like

there that plow doesn’t know about like

there that plow doesn’t know about like how many vessels do we have out on that

how many vessels do we have out on that

how many vessels do we have out on that water that are unaccounted for and you

water that are unaccounted for and you

water that are unaccounted for and you know the numbers that I got were low I

know the numbers that I got were low I

know the numbers that I got were low I had people telling me a handful maybe

had people telling me a handful maybe

had people telling me a handful maybe four or five that they didn’t actually

four or five that they didn’t actually

four or five that they didn’t actually know we’re out there but luckily at that

know we’re out there but luckily at that

know we’re out there but luckily at that same time Australia was flying a

same time Australia was flying a

same time Australia was flying a military vessel in the area and they

military vessel in the area and they

military vessel in the area and they took some data as they did and just in

took some data as they did and just in

took some data as they did and just in that one single fly path they found over

that one single fly path they found over

that one single fly path they found over seventy unaccounted for vessels and

seventy unaccounted for vessels and

seventy unaccounted for vessels and Glaus water so there’s this really huge

Glaus water so there’s this really huge

Glaus water so there’s this really huge perception problem there well so how

perception problem there well so how

perception problem there well so how does Palau protect that that six hundred

does Palau protect that that six hundred

does Palau protect that that six hundred thousand square kilometer shark

thousand square kilometer shark

thousand square kilometer shark sanctuary you’re looking at it one

sanctuary you’re looking at it one

sanctuary you’re looking at it one patrol boat a single boat to patrol

patrol boat a single boat to patrol

patrol boat a single boat to patrol all of that area so you have this one

all of that area so you have this one

all of that area so you have this one coastal nation that has a 600,000 square

coastal nation that has a 600,000 square

coastal nation that has a 600,000 square kilometer shark sanctuary it’s often

kilometer shark sanctuary it’s often

kilometer shark sanctuary it’s often considered one of the seven wonders of

considered one of the seven wonders of

considered one of the seven wonders of the underwater world and not only that

the underwater world and not only that

the underwater world and not only that they’ve signed on to the Micronesia

they’ve signed on to the Micronesia

they’ve signed on to the Micronesia challenge which would protect over 30%

challenge which would protect over 30%

challenge which would protect over 30% of their coastal waters all to be

of their coastal waters all to be

of their coastal waters all to be protected by a single boat do you think

protected by a single boat do you think

protected by a single boat do you think that that could be done you see this

that that could be done you see this

that that could be done you see this Palau problem is not unique to that

Palau problem is not unique to that

Palau problem is not unique to that country it’s really an issue that we

country it’s really an issue that we

country it’s really an issue that we have across the board the way that we go

have across the board the way that we go

have across the board the way that we go about protecting our waters is is based

about protecting our waters is is based

about protecting our waters is is based on technology and methods that’s

on technology and methods that’s

on technology and methods that’s decades-old we use donated or purchased

decades-old we use donated or purchased

decades-old we use donated or purchased military vessels to patrol the coasts

military vessels to patrol the coasts

military vessels to patrol the coasts and sometimes take some arbitrary paths

and sometimes take some arbitrary paths

and sometimes take some arbitrary paths we rely on borrowing some time as a

we rely on borrowing some time as a

we rely on borrowing some time as a secondary mission on military aircraft

secondary mission on military aircraft

secondary mission on military aircraft and these things cost in the hundreds of

and these things cost in the hundreds of

and these things cost in the hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars per

thousands to millions of dollars per

thousands to millions of dollars per flight we look at cooperative systems

flight we look at cooperative systems

flight we look at cooperative systems where we have vessel tracking

where we have vessel tracking

where we have vessel tracking information that’s sent from the vessels

information that’s sent from the vessels

information that’s sent from the vessels and those are kept in different

and those are kept in different

and those are kept in different databases and much of this information

databases and much of this information

databases and much of this information is not shared amongst each other and

is not shared amongst each other and

is not shared amongst each other and finally we use paper-based logbooks and

finally we use paper-based logbooks and

finally we use paper-based logbooks and forms to capture all this catch

forms to capture all this catch

forms to capture all this catch information and vessel data giving the

information and vessel data giving the

information and vessel data giving the opportunity for all this information

opportunity for all this information

opportunity for all this information just to be filed away in some cabinet

just to be filed away in some cabinet

just to be filed away in some cabinet and lost forever you see we can have all

and lost forever you see we can have all

and lost forever you see we can have all the improvements in the world in terms

the improvements in the world in terms

the improvements in the world in terms of laws and international treaties but

of laws and international treaties but

of laws and international treaties but if we don’t have an effective way to

if we don’t have an effective way to

if we don’t have an effective way to monitor our oceans then it’s really

monitor our oceans then it’s really

monitor our oceans then it’s really flawed as soon as we set up these marine

flawed as soon as we set up these marine

flawed as soon as we set up these marine protected areas everywhere really the

protected areas everywhere really the

protected areas everywhere really the next step needs to be figuring out a way

next step needs to be figuring out a way

next step needs to be figuring out a way to better watch over those areas well

to better watch over those areas well

to better watch over those areas well this is what I think we can do I think

this is what I think we can do I think

this is what I think we can do I think this is the answer technology and I

this is the answer technology and I

this is the answer technology and I think that really comes as a result of

think that really comes as a result of

think that really comes as a result of the great improvements we’ve had in

the great improvements we’ve had in

the great improvements we’ve had in technology and that’s my whole purpose

technology and that’s my whole purpose

technology and that’s my whole purpose here is to try and bring some of that

here is to try and bring some of that

here is to try and bring some of that over to the ocean realm you see

over to the ocean realm you see

over to the ocean realm you see technology can kind of be looked at in

technology can kind of be looked at in

technology can kind of be looked at in this s-curve form in terms of adoption

this s-curve form in terms of adoption

this s-curve form in terms of adoption and basically all this is saying is that

and basically all this is saying is that

and basically all this is saying is that as the number of people who start using

as the number of people who start using

as the number of people who start using the technology more and more it slowly

the technology more and more it slowly

the technology more and more it slowly builds and

builds and

builds and to this kind of critical point and then

to this kind of critical point and then

to this kind of critical point and then plateaus once it’s hit the mainstream

plateaus once it’s hit the mainstream

plateaus once it’s hit the mainstream and if we look over the last hundred

and if we look over the last hundred

and if we look over the last hundred years we’ve seen that it’s followed this

years we’ve seen that it’s followed this

years we’ve seen that it’s followed this basic same s shape but what I wanted to

basic same s shape but what I wanted to

basic same s shape but what I wanted to point out was as the decades progress

point out was as the decades progress

point out was as the decades progress you see technology adoption accelerates

you see technology adoption accelerates

you see technology adoption accelerates and I think we’ve all kind of seen this

and I think we’ve all kind of seen this

and I think we’ve all kind of seen this in the way that the computers and cell

in the way that the computers and cell

in the way that the computers and cell phones have really changed our lives in

phones have really changed our lives in

phones have really changed our lives in the last 20 years so right now we’re

the last 20 years so right now we’re

the last 20 years so right now we’re living in this zone we’re living in this

living in this zone we’re living in this

living in this zone we’re living in this amazing time right now where a tech

amazing time right now where a tech

amazing time right now where a tech entrepreneur can created something that

entrepreneur can created something that

entrepreneur can created something that can change not only is industry but the

can change not only is industry but the

can change not only is industry but the world in months and not decades you see

world in months and not decades you see

world in months and not decades you see before to be a technology entrepreneur

before to be a technology entrepreneur

before to be a technology entrepreneur you had to have access to a factory or

you had to have access to a factory or

you had to have access to a factory or all sorts of capital to do something

all sorts of capital to do something

all sorts of capital to do something well now we’re in the state where you

well now we’re in the state where you

well now we’re in the state where you can design something you can get it a

can design something you can get it a

can design something you can get it a prototype printed out by a 3d printer

prototype printed out by a 3d printer

prototype printed out by a 3d printer and then you can send that file off to

and then you can send that file off to

and then you can send that file off to be manufactured at a factory all without

be manufactured at a factory all without

be manufactured at a factory all without even leaving your couch so this is what

even leaving your couch so this is what

even leaving your couch so this is what I think we need to do to change this

I think we need to do to change this

I think we need to do to change this problem now it’s kind of a busy chart

problem now it’s kind of a busy chart

problem now it’s kind of a busy chart but I want you to look at the simplified

but I want you to look at the simplified

but I want you to look at the simplified roadmap and really get two things from

roadmap and really get two things from

roadmap and really get two things from it there’s two paths that we need to do

it there’s two paths that we need to do

it there’s two paths that we need to do here we need to create better

here we need to create better

here we need to create better observation technologies and we have to

observation technologies and we have to

observation technologies and we have to make that information that we collect

make that information that we collect

make that information that we collect more actionable so observation

more actionable so observation

more actionable so observation technologies we need to make use of

technologies we need to make use of

technologies we need to make use of drones and unmanned boats we have to use

drones and unmanned boats we have to use

drones and unmanned boats we have to use the Internet and a lot of this

the Internet and a lot of this

the Internet and a lot of this information that we’ve been able to

information that we’ve been able to

information that we’ve been able to handle and manipulate to really bring

handle and manipulate to really bring

handle and manipulate to really bring this issue up and not rely so much on

this issue up and not rely so much on

this issue up and not rely so much on the military aspect of it and then for

the military aspect of it and then for

the military aspect of it and then for building information infrastructure it

building information infrastructure it

building information infrastructure it really has to be information that’s

really has to be information that’s

really has to be information that’s actionable illegal fishing is a global

actionable illegal fishing is a global

actionable illegal fishing is a global problem and we’re attacking it in

problem and we’re attacking it in

problem and we’re attacking it in regional in regional ways I mean it

regional in regional ways I mean it

regional in regional ways I mean it blows my mind that there could be a

blows my mind that there could be a

blows my mind that there could be a vessel shark finning in the South

vessel shark finning in the South

vessel shark finning in the South Pacific and when that vessel shows up in

Pacific and when that vessel shows up in

Pacific and when that vessel shows up in South America we don’t always have that

South America we don’t always have that

South America we don’t always have that information there so I’m going to talk a

information there so I’m going to talk a

information there so I’m going to talk a little bit about various texts and all

little bit about various texts and all

little bit about various texts and all technologies I’m just gonna pick a few

technologies I’m just gonna pick a few

technologies I’m just gonna pick a few of them out and show you different ways

of them out and show you different ways

of them out and show you different ways that they can help so the first is

that they can help so the first is

that they can help so the first is drones now drones have gotten a lot of

drones now drones have gotten a lot of

drones now drones have gotten a lot of controversy lately with their use

controversy lately with their use

controversy lately with their use the military I think I’ve even when I

the military I think I’ve even when I

the military I think I’ve even when I said the word I saw some of you guys

said the word I saw some of you guys

said the word I saw some of you guys cower in fear but you know just like the

cower in fear but you know just like the

cower in fear but you know just like the Internet which kind of originally came

Internet which kind of originally came

Internet which kind of originally came under military funding and has been like

under military funding and has been like

under military funding and has been like commandeered by the public I feel like

commandeered by the public I feel like

commandeered by the public I feel like like drones are a technology that can

like drones are a technology that can

like drones are a technology that can help to bring conservation to new

help to bring conservation to new

help to bring conservation to new heights I mean there’s this incredible

heights I mean there’s this incredible

heights I mean there’s this incredible amateur community out there that is now

amateur community out there that is now

amateur community out there that is now producing more of these planes than the

producing more of these planes than the

producing more of these planes than the US military has and they’re sharing the

US military has and they’re sharing the

US military has and they’re sharing the designs and the information and and all

designs and the information and and all

designs and the information and and all the software for free online it’s this

the software for free online it’s this

the software for free online it’s this really incredible time and there’s

really incredible time and there’s

really incredible time and there’s nothing that a unmanned plane can do

nothing that a unmanned plane can do

nothing that a unmanned plane can do that that we don’t already do with our

that that we don’t already do with our

that that we don’t already do with our manned aerial planes that we use in

manned aerial planes that we use in

manned aerial planes that we use in conservation the second thing I want to

conservation the second thing I want to

conservation the second thing I want to talk about is hydrophone sensors this is

talk about is hydrophone sensors this is

talk about is hydrophone sensors this is something that I made now see all

something that I made now see all

something that I made now see all vessels really make noise underwater

vessels really make noise underwater

vessels really make noise underwater when they move so basically what you see

when they move so basically what you see

when they move so basically what you see behind me is a hydrophone sun sensor

behind me is a hydrophone sun sensor

behind me is a hydrophone sun sensor it’s a underwater microphone and it and

it’s a underwater microphone and it and

it’s a underwater microphone and it and the way that this thing works is it

the way that this thing works is it

the way that this thing works is it basically listens for big enough changes

basically listens for big enough changes

basically listens for big enough changes in the ambient noise of the water to

in the ambient noise of the water to

in the ambient noise of the water to tell that a vessel has passed by I mean

tell that a vessel has passed by I mean

tell that a vessel has passed by I mean you can kind of think about this as a

you can kind of think about this as a

you can kind of think about this as a those lights that everyone has above

those lights that everyone has above

those lights that everyone has above their garage the motion sensor lights

their garage the motion sensor lights

their garage the motion sensor lights when someone walks into area it’s a

when someone walks into area it’s a

when someone walks into area it’s a similar thing but it can be connected to

similar thing but it can be connected to

similar thing but it can be connected to any kind of communications mechanism and

any kind of communications mechanism and

any kind of communications mechanism and send a note to someone saying hey

send a note to someone saying hey

send a note to someone saying hey something’s came by the next thing I

something’s came by the next thing I

something’s came by the next thing I wanted to talk about was satellite

wanted to talk about was satellite

wanted to talk about was satellite technology so we’ve all kind of heard

technology so we’ve all kind of heard

technology so we’ve all kind of heard the amazing things that we’ve been able

the amazing things that we’ve been able

the amazing things that we’ve been able to do with satellite imagery there was

to do with satellite imagery there was

to do with satellite imagery there was that recent valley of the Khans thing

that recent valley of the Khans thing

that recent valley of the Khans thing that National Geographic was equipped

that National Geographic was equipped

that National Geographic was equipped with and and there was there’s also been

with and and there was there’s also been

with and and there was there’s also been some really interesting conservation

some really interesting conservation

some really interesting conservation challenges that have been solved by this

challenges that have been solved by this

challenges that have been solved by this including this so what happened here was

including this so what happened here was

including this so what happened here was this was a group of individuals who saw

this was a group of individuals who saw

this was a group of individuals who saw just using Google Maps that someone was

just using Google Maps that someone was

just using Google Maps that someone was illegally trawl fishing in the Canary

illegally trawl fishing in the Canary

illegally trawl fishing in the Canary Islands and they reported it to the EU

Islands and they reported it to the EU

Islands and they reported it to the EU and these people got in trouble because

and these people got in trouble because

and these people got in trouble because of it so that’s not even using specific

of it so that’s not even using specific

of it so that’s not even using specific satellite imagery but I think that the

satellite imagery but I think that the

satellite imagery but I think that the really exciting stuff that’s happening

really exciting stuff that’s happening

really exciting stuff that’s happening with satellite technology is the

with satellite technology is the

with satellite technology is the miniaturization and privatization of

miniaturization and privatization of

miniaturization and privatization of space

space

space so this CubeSat that you see behind me

so this CubeSat that you see behind me

so this CubeSat that you see behind me is a really small satellite so this one

is a really small satellite so this one

is a really small satellite so this one was created by albergue University

was created by albergue University

was created by albergue University Denmark and it’s basically a space-based

Denmark and it’s basically a space-based

Denmark and it’s basically a space-based AIS receiver so this thing gets vessel

AIS receiver so this thing gets vessel

AIS receiver so this thing gets vessel tracking information from space but it

tracking information from space but it

tracking information from space but it costs a fraction of the price of what

costs a fraction of the price of what

costs a fraction of the price of what our previous satellites costed and we’ve

our previous satellites costed and we’ve

our previous satellites costed and we’ve even seen recently planetary resources

even seen recently planetary resources

even seen recently planetary resources did this Kickstarter campaign for the

did this Kickstarter campaign for the

did this Kickstarter campaign for the Space Telescope and their minister Space

Space Telescope and their minister Space

Space Telescope and their minister Space Telescope’s and it’s widely popular so

Telescope’s and it’s widely popular so

Telescope’s and it’s widely popular so there’s no reason why we couldn’t have a

there’s no reason why we couldn’t have a

there’s no reason why we couldn’t have a fleet of those orbiting our planet

fleet of those orbiting our planet

fleet of those orbiting our planet taking real-time imagery of our oceans

taking real-time imagery of our oceans

taking real-time imagery of our oceans and the final thing I wanted to talk

and the final thing I wanted to talk

and the final thing I wanted to talk about is something that’s enabled by the

about is something that’s enabled by the

about is something that’s enabled by the current state of the internet we should

current state of the internet we should

current state of the internet we should be able to engage everybody out there to

be able to engage everybody out there to

be able to engage everybody out there to become better conservationists

become better conservationists

become better conservationists statistics say that by 2020 over 5

statistics say that by 2020 over 5

statistics say that by 2020 over 5 billion people will be connected to the

billion people will be connected to the

billion people will be connected to the Internet and we see how people can do

Internet and we see how people can do

Internet and we see how people can do some pretty amazing things with iPhone

some pretty amazing things with iPhone

some pretty amazing things with iPhone apps and and the web now so I created

apps and and the web now so I created

apps and and the web now so I created this which is MP a guardian org the

this which is MP a guardian org the

this which is MP a guardian org the focus behind this is to really try and

focus behind this is to really try and

focus behind this is to really try and help crowdsource the protection of our

help crowdsource the protection of our

help crowdsource the protection of our California’s NPA system to anybody out

California’s NPA system to anybody out

California’s NPA system to anybody out there who’s on the water on a boat they

there who’s on the water on a boat they

there who’s on the water on a boat they can’t see something they could catch it

can’t see something they could catch it

can’t see something they could catch it with their iPhone and upload it to the

with their iPhone and upload it to the

with their iPhone and upload it to the database so we’ve heard a lot about

database so we’ve heard a lot about

database so we’ve heard a lot about citizen science I’m trying to think

citizen science I’m trying to think

citizen science I’m trying to think about citizen protection and the more

about citizen protection and the more

about citizen protection and the more information we get about these areas

information we get about these areas

information we get about these areas then we can start building a better

then we can start building a better

then we can start building a better picture in helping out the enforcement

picture in helping out the enforcement

picture in helping out the enforcement individuals that are trying to work on

individuals that are trying to work on

individuals that are trying to work on stopping this stuff so instead of just

stopping this stuff so instead of just

stopping this stuff so instead of just arbitrarily driving out you know taking

arbitrarily driving out you know taking

arbitrarily driving out you know taking their vessel out into the ocean they’ll

their vessel out into the ocean they’ll

their vessel out into the ocean they’ll start to get an idea of what areas this

start to get an idea of what areas this

start to get an idea of what areas this kind of stuffs happening in and they can

kind of stuffs happening in and they can

kind of stuffs happening in and they can take a more direct approach there so

take a more direct approach there so

take a more direct approach there so those were just a few technologies

those were just a few technologies

those were just a few technologies there’s really a whole lot of stuff that

there’s really a whole lot of stuff that

there’s really a whole lot of stuff that we could be doing nowadays I you know

we could be doing nowadays I you know

we could be doing nowadays I you know I’m an engineer and and I really think

I’m an engineer and and I really think

I’m an engineer and and I really think that we’re in a place right now where we

that we’re in a place right now where we

that we’re in a place right now where we need to get conservationists and

need to get conservationists and

need to get conservationists and engineers working together on this you

engineers working together on this you

engineers working together on this you know I want a situation where the bright

know I want a situation where the bright

know I want a situation where the bright young engineers aren’t leaving school

young engineers aren’t leaving school

young engineers aren’t leaving school and going to work for an internet

and going to work for an internet

and going to work for an internet company working on better ad delivery

company working on better ad delivery

company working on better ad delivery right

right

right I want them trying to solve our greatest

I want them trying to solve our greatest

I want them trying to solve our greatest conservation and environmental

conservation and environmental

conservation and environmental challenges of the day you know

challenges of the day you know

challenges of the day you know through my work with engineers Without

through my work with engineers Without

through my work with engineers Without Borders I’ve seen what a passionate

Borders I’ve seen what a passionate

Borders I’ve seen what a passionate inspired engineer can do and I really

inspired engineer can do and I really

inspired engineer can do and I really want to bring them into this space so

want to bring them into this space so

want to bring them into this space so thank you it was an honor

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