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okay cool uh thank you gentlemen thank

okay cool uh thank you gentlemen thank you daddy

you daddy

you daddy then I get on TV with him yes Danny told

then I get on TV with him yes Danny told

then I get on TV with him yes Danny told me the story yesterday that sometime in

me the story yesterday that sometime in

me the story yesterday that sometime in early August of 1964

early August of 1964

early August of 1964 he’s flying from Memphis to New York and

he’s flying from Memphis to New York and

he’s flying from Memphis to New York and in Memphis he runs into a black guy in

in Memphis he runs into a black guy in

in Memphis he runs into a black guy in overalls like like this guy has and that

overalls like like this guy has and that

overalls like like this guy has and that was kind of a uniform civil rights

was kind of a uniform civil rights

was kind of a uniform civil rights uniform and so he approached the guy and

uniform and so he approached the guy and

uniform and so he approached the guy and turned out he was with core right and so

turned out he was with core right and so

turned out he was with core right and so he was exploding with a chitchat for a

he was exploding with a chitchat for a

he was exploding with a chitchat for a little while and then Danny gets on the

little while and then Danny gets on the

little while and then Danny gets on the plane and flies to New York

plane and flies to New York

plane and flies to New York guests in New York where his mother’s

guests in New York where his mother’s

guests in New York where his mother’s meeting him and he’s standing there and

meeting him and he’s standing there and

meeting him and he’s standing there and a man comes up to him whips out his FBI

a man comes up to him whips out his FBI

a man comes up to him whips out his FBI thing and says is your name Mickey

thing and says is your name Mickey

thing and says is your name Mickey Schwerner and thanks to Danny and Danson

Schwerner and thanks to Danny and Danson

Schwerner and thanks to Danny and Danson know my name is Danny Lyon he said can

know my name is Danny Lyon he said can

know my name is Danny Lyon he said can you prove that and you showed him your

you prove that and you showed him your

you prove that and you showed him your wallet showed of your ID no no I can you

wallet showed of your ID no no I can you

wallet showed of your ID no no I can you prove I said yeah this is my mother yeah

prove I said yeah this is my mother yeah

prove I said yeah this is my mother yeah What did he say what did he say he said

What did he say what did he say he said

What did he say what did he say he said that’s not good enough and turns out

that’s not good enough and turns out

that’s not good enough and turns out that some good citizen in Memphis had

that some good citizen in Memphis had

that some good citizen in Memphis had seen this black guy and coveralls and

seen this black guy and coveralls and

seen this black guy and coveralls and and and him and he had what was called

and and him and he had what was called

and and him and he had what was called in Israel you know that is at the time

in Israel you know that is at the time

in Israel you know that is at the time Watson and Danny had this curly hair

Michael Schwerner and thought the other

Michael Schwerner and thought the other guy was James Chaney by and it called

guy was James Chaney by and it called

guy was James Chaney by and it called the FBI right incredible this is Selma

the FBI right incredible this is Selma

the FBI right incredible this is Selma all right okay is that Jim Clark that’s

all right okay is that Jim Clark that’s

all right okay is that Jim Clark that’s Clark yeah and the sunglasses that’s the

Clark yeah and the sunglasses that’s the

Clark yeah and the sunglasses that’s the sheriff of the county Dallas County evil

sheriff of the county Dallas County evil

sheriff of the county Dallas County evil man evil man later arrested for

man evil man later arrested for

man evil man later arrested for possession of marijuana he grew it yes

possession of marijuana he grew it yes

possession of marijuana he grew it yes you know Taylor branch she’s your buddy

you know Taylor branch she’s your buddy

you know Taylor branch she’s your buddy right you can tell but Taylor branch

right you can tell but Taylor branch

right you can tell but Taylor branch said he was like a nice guy living in

said he was like a nice guy living in

said he was like a nice guy living in the trail he felt bad about the whole

the trail he felt bad about the whole

the trail he felt bad about the whole thing and he did time for going

thing and he did time for going

thing and he did time for going marijuana yeah which means maybe he was

marijuana yeah which means maybe he was

marijuana yeah which means maybe he was kind of moving towards us never know I

kind of moving towards us never know I

kind of moving towards us never know I mean in a sense this is a picture I’ve

mean in a sense this is a picture I’ve

mean in a sense this is a picture I’ve never seen before Danny is this in

never seen before Danny is this in

never seen before Danny is this in Albany no no this is a I think it’s in

Albany no no this is a I think it’s in

Albany no no this is a I think it’s in Cambridge Maryland was the only place

Cambridge Maryland was the only place

Cambridge Maryland was the only place you know it’s like the Jesus story the

you know it’s like the Jesus story the

you know it’s like the Jesus story the only place would room for people to meet

only place would room for people to meet

only place would room for people to meet is like the drugstore you know or this

is like the drugstore you know or this

is like the drugstore you know or this was it it was amazing I mean you didn’t

was it it was amazing I mean you didn’t

was it it was amazing I mean you didn’t have to be too bright to realize that

have to be too bright to realize that

have to be too bright to realize that historical event was taking place in

historical event was taking place in

historical event was taking place in front of you know which is what was

front of you know which is what was

front of you know which is what was happening then meet this is some high

happening then meet this is some high

happening then meet this is some high school gymnasium they were meeting it

school gymnasium they were meeting it

school gymnasium they were meeting it other times it was a funeral parlor they

other times it was a funeral parlor they

other times it was a funeral parlor they were favorite places because it was

were favorite places because it was

were favorite places because it was places where black people owned the

places where black people owned the

places where black people owned the building or they were safe and so that’s

building or they were safe and so that’s

building or they were safe and so that’s where these events took place I think

where these events took place I think

where these events took place I think this is a Cambridge Maryland it could be

50 years ago so we and I were discussing

50 years ago so we and I were discussing these dates right so they were murdered

these dates right so they were murdered

these dates right so they were murdered on what would June the 21st yeah it took

on what would June the 21st yeah it took

on what would June the 21st yeah it took weeks for them to find their body that

weeks for them to find their body that

weeks for them to find their body that they didn’t find the body until what

they didn’t find the body until what

they didn’t find the body until what August is 6 or something yes so that’s

August is 6 or something yes so that’s

August is 6 or something yes so that’s true not sure about the Davis sometimes

true not sure about the Davis sometimes

true not sure about the Davis sometimes early in August so for over six weeks

early in August so for over six weeks

early in August so for over six weeks that the word in in the South was that

that the word in in the South was that

that the word in in the South was that that these kids were just hiding and it

that these kids were just hiding and it

that these kids were just hiding and it was a publicity stunt the governor said

was a publicity stunt the governor said

was a publicity stunt the governor said they’re in hiding out in Cuba that’s a

they’re in hiding out in Cuba that’s a

they’re in hiding out in Cuba that’s a good place but they weren’t hiding they

good place but they weren’t hiding they

good place but they weren’t hiding they murdered them in the woods I mean I ride

murdered them in the woods I mean I ride

murdered them in the woods I mean I ride in this new I wrote this a new book all

in this new I wrote this a new book all

in this new I wrote this a new book all the seventh dog which is not out yet but

the seventh dog which is not out yet but

the seventh dog which is not out yet but then it’ll be out in the spring and I I

then it’ll be out in the spring and I I

then it’ll be out in the spring and I I wrote about these boys and I wrote about

wrote about these boys and I wrote about

wrote about these boys and I wrote about all the young people I knew who died who

all the young people I knew who died who

all the young people I knew who died who got murdered and and you you know you

got murdered and and you you know you

got murdered and and you you know you look at Andy I mean I was the same age

look at Andy I mean I was the same age

look at Andy I mean I was the same age as these guys

as these guys

as these guys and you think of the life that I’ve

and you think of the life that I’ve

and you think of the life that I’ve lived since then I’ve lived three times

lived since then I’ve lived three times

lived since then I’ve lived three times as long as they got to live on this

as long as they got to live on this

as long as they got to live on this earth you know we don’t get another shot

earth you know we don’t get another shot

earth you know we don’t get another shot at this you know

at this you know

at this you know and there’s been so many like that and

and there’s been so many like that and

and there’s been so many like that and it in a book you know I asked the

it in a book you know I asked the

it in a book you know I asked the question who lives who dogs you know you

question who lives who dogs you know you

question who lives who dogs you know you know I was lucky that motorcycle the one

know I was lucky that motorcycle the one

know I was lucky that motorcycle the one that came out of nowhere

that came out of nowhere

that came out of nowhere missed me you know that’s the motorcycle

missed me you know that’s the motorcycle

missed me you know that’s the motorcycle that kills you cuz you don’t see him or

that kills you cuz you don’t see him or

that kills you cuz you don’t see him or the car or the bullet I did what Andy

the car or the bullet I did what Andy

the car or the bullet I did what Andy did all the time although dick at that

did all the time although dick at that

did all the time although dick at that kid had been there for one day in

kid had been there for one day in

kid had been there for one day in Mississippi and all he did was get in

Mississippi and all he did was get in

Mississippi and all he did was get in his car go for a ride a church had been

his car go for a ride a church had been

his car go for a ride a church had been burned down that was no big deal they

burned down that was no big deal they

burned down that was no big deal they were burned down all the time 40

were burned down all the time 40

were burned down all the time 40 churches I thought it was a very boring

churches I thought it was a very boring

churches I thought it was a very boring subject I remember once a guy someone

subject I remember once a guy someone

subject I remember once a guy someone said Oh a church let’s go I think I went

said Oh a church let’s go I think I went

said Oh a church let’s go I think I went my bad herring and we went there was a

my bad herring and we went there was a

my bad herring and we went there was a bunch of sit in the blocks and in the

bunch of sit in the blocks and in the

bunch of sit in the blocks and in the piney woods it was all busted up and it

piney woods it was all busted up and it

piney woods it was all busted up and it was still smoldering and there were no

was still smoldering and there were no

was still smoldering and there were no people there I said well boy is this

people there I said well boy is this

people there I said well boy is this boring I’m having to take it I mean I

boring I’m having to take it I mean I

boring I’m having to take it I mean I had no interest in it but that’s what he

had no interest in it but that’s what he

had no interest in it but that’s what he did he just got in this car and that was

did he just got in this car and that was

did he just got in this car and that was the end of his life so 20 years ago are

the end of his life so 20 years ago are

the end of his life so 20 years ago are always teaching a class and I always

always teaching a class and I always

always teaching a class and I always thought they should be a postage stamp

thought they should be a postage stamp

thought they should be a postage stamp made they died trying to register people

made they died trying to register people

made they died trying to register people to vote in the United States of America

to vote in the United States of America

to vote in the United States of America and John Lewis says next year this year

and John Lewis says next year this year

and John Lewis says next year this year is the 50th anniversary and he says he

is the 50th anniversary and he says he

is the 50th anniversary and he says he thinks it’ll happen it should happen

thinks it’ll happen it should happen

thinks it’ll happen it should happen Fannie Lou Hamer is on a stamp

Fannie Lou Hamer is on a stamp

Fannie Lou Hamer is on a stamp yeah 30-love using this thing my

yeah 30-love using this thing my

yeah 30-love using this thing my father’s gonna be understand oh that’s

father’s gonna be understand oh that’s

father’s gonna be understand oh that’s wonderful

wonderful

wonderful really yeah cool Henry Louis Gates was

really yeah cool Henry Louis Gates was

really yeah cool Henry Louis Gates was on the stamp committee he whispered it

on the stamp committee he whispered it

on the stamp committee he whispered it to me told me not to tell anyone

that’s great I’ll be the stamp collector

that’s great I’ll be the stamp collector as a kid who are these guys I hope they

as a kid who are these guys I hope they

as a kid who are these guys I hope they don’t put him on a stamp I mean no

don’t put him on a stamp I mean no

don’t put him on a stamp I mean no seriously you said something interesting

seriously you said something interesting

seriously you said something interesting we saw this picture yesterday and I was

we saw this picture yesterday and I was

we saw this picture yesterday and I was they have to carry their own guitars

they have to carry their own guitars

they have to carry their own guitars yeah so this is the steps of the Lincoln

yeah so this is the steps of the Lincoln

yeah so this is the steps of the Lincoln Memorial the morning of the march where

Memorial the morning of the march where

Memorial the morning of the march where king will make the speech we all know by

king will make the speech we all know by

king will make the speech we all know by heart and John Lewis will make a very

heart and John Lewis will make a very

heart and John Lewis will make a very important speech and Julian and I are up

important speech and Julian and I are up

important speech and Julian and I are up up you know underneath Lincoln and these

up you know underneath Lincoln and these

up you know underneath Lincoln and these guys all showing up early what were you

guys all showing up early what were you

guys all showing up early what were you doing that morning I had a couple of

doing that morning I had a couple of

doing that morning I had a couple of jobs one was passing out everybody’s

jobs one was passing out everybody’s

jobs one was passing out everybody’s speech everybody was asked to deliver

speech everybody was asked to deliver

speech everybody was asked to deliver who spoke was asked to deliver a copy of

who spoke was asked to deliver a copy of

who spoke was asked to deliver a copy of his or her speech no hers his speech and

his or her speech no hers his speech and

his or her speech no hers his speech and they had to be passed out to the media

they had to be passed out to the media

they had to be passed out to the media and I passed out John Lewis’s speech to

and I passed out John Lewis’s speech to

and I passed out John Lewis’s speech to the media people and I said notice this

the media people and I said notice this

the media people and I said notice this that he’s the only person here is going

that he’s the only person here is going

that he’s the only person here is going to talk about black people not Negroes

to talk about black people not Negroes

to talk about black people not Negroes not colored people black people could

not colored people black people could

not colored people black people could not on pay day attention but I also gave

not on pay day attention but I also gave

not on pay day attention but I also gave coca-cola’s to the movie stars and my

coca-cola’s to the movie stars and my

coca-cola’s to the movie stars and my most prominent member memory is giving a

most prominent member memory is giving a

most prominent member memory is giving a coca-cola to Sammy Davis jr. and he said

coca-cola to Sammy Davis jr. and he said

coca-cola to Sammy Davis jr. and he said thanks kid

who dat now everybody who sees this

who dat now everybody who sees this makes fun of my pants

hey you notice our sneakers yeah we both

hey you notice our sneakers yeah we both got pink sneakers it’s just a

got pink sneakers it’s just a

got pink sneakers it’s just a coincidence

coincidence

coincidence yes that’s I don’t know this guy on the

yes that’s I don’t know this guy on the

yes that’s I don’t know this guy on the left myself John Lewis

left myself John Lewis

left myself John Lewis Jimmy Hicks who is editor of the

Jimmy Hicks who is editor of the

Jimmy Hicks who is editor of the Amsterdam news and this guy I don’t know

Amsterdam news and this guy I don’t know

Amsterdam news and this guy I don’t know who this guy is this is right across the

who this guy is this is right across the

who this guy is this is right across the street from the 16th Street Baptist

street from the 16th Street Baptist

street from the 16th Street Baptist Church John and I flew to Birmingham you

Church John and I flew to Birmingham you

Church John and I flew to Birmingham you could fly to Birmingham from Atlanta

could fly to Birmingham from Atlanta

could fly to Birmingham from Atlanta then you can’t do that now we got there

then you can’t do that now we got there

then you can’t do that now we got there in the afternoon and we’re able to this

in the afternoon and we’re able to this

in the afternoon and we’re able to this thing was still smoking yeah I flew in I

thing was still smoking yeah I flew in I

thing was still smoking yeah I flew in I actually missed the flight I was in

actually missed the flight I was in

actually missed the flight I was in Newark

Newark

Newark waiting and I was talking to Fred go

waiting and I was talking to Fred go

waiting and I was talking to Fred go Frank and I didn’t hear the announcement

Frank and I didn’t hear the announcement

Frank and I didn’t hear the announcement I missed the flight and and then the

I missed the flight and and then the

I missed the flight and and then the next morning I flew in and I got in a

next morning I flew in and I got in a

next morning I flew in and I got in a car with you and some local defense guy

car with you and some local defense guy

car with you and some local defense guy was driving around the neighborhood and

was driving around the neighborhood and

was driving around the neighborhood and he had a gun on him

he had a gun on him

he had a gun on him I mean lying remember Bruce Gordon no

I mean lying remember Bruce Gordon no

I mean lying remember Bruce Gordon no one Bruce I mean it was a local guy and

one Bruce I mean it was a local guy and

one Bruce I mean it was a local guy and you know not only were these these four

you know not only were these these four

you know not only were these these four young girls one of them was decapitated

young girls one of them was decapitated

young girls one of them was decapitated that you know this is the 16th Street

that you know this is the 16th Street

that you know this is the 16th Street Baptist church bombing and this square

Baptist church bombing and this square

Baptist church bombing and this square in the church was the center of Kings

in the church was the center of Kings

in the church was the center of Kings marches and these famous firehose

marches and these famous firehose

marches and these famous firehose pictures were all taken right in in that

pictures were all taken right in in that

pictures were all taken right in in that Park I wasn’t I didn’t photograph that

Park I wasn’t I didn’t photograph that

Park I wasn’t I didn’t photograph that stuff I wasn’t there but they put a bomb

stuff I wasn’t there but they put a bomb

stuff I wasn’t there but they put a bomb in the bathroom in the stairs under the

in the bathroom in the stairs under the

in the bathroom in the stairs under the stairs next to the bathroom the women’s

stairs next to the bathroom the women’s

stairs next to the bathroom the women’s bathroom and these little girls were in

bathroom and these little girls were in

bathroom and these little girls were in the bathroom primping for church and

the bathroom primping for church and

the bathroom primping for church and they were 14 yeah and and one of those

they were 14 yeah and and one of those

they were 14 yeah and and one of those guys were an FBI Informer and has a very

guys were an FBI Informer and has a very

guys were an FBI Informer and has a very amazing

amazing

amazing history meaning Hoover was getting

history meaning Hoover was getting

history meaning Hoover was getting report and he was also present when

report and he was also present when

report and he was also present when Loyola what’s-her-name

Loyola what’s-her-name

Loyola what’s-her-name by Louisa yeah was murdered shot to

by Louisa yeah was murdered shot to

by Louisa yeah was murdered shot to death he was we’re all the same person

death he was we’re all the same person

death he was we’re all the same person was riding in the car with this clam

was riding in the car with this clam

was riding in the car with this clam guys you know I have this silver eyes

guys you know I have this silver eyes

guys you know I have this silver eyes tour I lead every year and when we go to

tour I lead every year and when we go to

tour I lead every year and when we go to Birmingham the guy who was a US Attorney

Birmingham the guy who was a US Attorney

Birmingham the guy who was a US Attorney speaks to my group and he has the FBI

speaks to my group and he has the FBI

speaks to my group and he has the FBI tapes that sat on a shelf and the FBI

tapes that sat on a shelf and the FBI

tapes that sat on a shelf and the FBI office here in DC for years and years

office here in DC for years and years

office here in DC for years and years and years because Jago Hoover wouldn’t

and years because Jago Hoover wouldn’t

and years because Jago Hoover wouldn’t let them be released to the prosecutor

let them be released to the prosecutor

let them be released to the prosecutor and on these tapes you can hear one of

and on these tapes you can hear one of

and on these tapes you can hear one of these guys argue with his girlfriend she

these guys argue with his girlfriend she

these guys argue with his girlfriend she says you were with way lean weren’t you

says you were with way lean weren’t you

says you were with way lean weren’t you you what a wonderful name way lean

you what a wonderful name way lean

you what a wonderful name way lean you’re with way lean weren’t you you’re

you’re with way lean weren’t you you’re

you’re with way lean weren’t you you’re with Whaley she says he says no I was

with Whaley she says he says no I was

with Whaley she says he says no I was making the bomb no everybody know who

making the bomb no everybody know who

making the bomb no everybody know who these people are they’re bad people I

these people are they’re bad people I

these people are they’re bad people I could tell a guy in the middle just look

could tell a guy in the middle just look

could tell a guy in the middle just look at it’s a former mayor of DC Marion

at it’s a former mayor of DC Marion

at it’s a former mayor of DC Marion Barry and Ivanhoe Donaldson and James

Barry and Ivanhoe Donaldson and James

Barry and Ivanhoe Donaldson and James Forman you know there was only two other

Forman you know there was only two other

Forman you know there was only two other people I was concerned about the

people I was concerned about the

people I was concerned about the movement cuz they both had cameras and

movement cuz they both had cameras and

movement cuz they both had cameras and took pictures one was Marion and the

took pictures one was Marion and the

took pictures one was Marion and the other was you you know I gotta put a

other was you you know I gotta put a

other was you you know I gotta put a stop to this you know you got your

stop to this you know you got your

stop to this you know you got your agitation to do but I you know I’m a

agitation to do but I you know I’m a

agitation to do but I you know I’m a white guy you think you got a picture of

white guy you think you got a picture of

white guy you think you got a picture of me with a camera I do I do it’s in

me with a camera I do I do it’s in

me with a camera I do I do it’s in Waveland you’re holding a camera not a

Waveland you’re holding a camera not a

Waveland you’re holding a camera not a nikon reflex cannon but that’s oh no you

nikon reflex cannon but that’s oh no you

nikon reflex cannon but that’s oh no you were serious photographer don’t tell me

were serious photographer don’t tell me

were serious photographer don’t tell me you work I’ll be a brownie

you work I’ll be a brownie

you work I’ll be a brownie it wasn’t no brownie it was a cat it was

it wasn’t no brownie it was a cat it was

it wasn’t no brownie it was a cat it was okay I think it’s any I thought oh hey I

okay I think it’s any I thought oh hey I

okay I think it’s any I thought oh hey I was gonna take this out that’s a great

was gonna take this out that’s a great

was gonna take this out that’s a great picture

picture

picture you knew Einstein you know I thought oh

you knew Einstein you know I thought oh

you knew Einstein you know I thought oh yeah

yeah

yeah I didn’t know I didn’t know Angela and

I didn’t know I didn’t know Angela and

I didn’t know I didn’t know Angela and came to Lincoln University where I lived

came to Lincoln University where I lived

came to Lincoln University where I lived and my parents tell me I don’t have any

and my parents tell me I don’t have any

and my parents tell me I don’t have any independent memory of this that he told

independent memory of this that he told

independent memory of this that he told me never remember anything that’s

me never remember anything that’s

me never remember anything that’s already written down and I followed that

already written down and I followed that

already written down and I followed that my whole life

my whole life

my whole life I did that with Photoshop it’s pretty

I did that with Photoshop it’s pretty

I did that with Photoshop it’s pretty good this okay one device because this

good this okay one device because this

good this okay one device because this woman this is the three of the four

woman this is the three of the four

woman this is the three of the four girls who were killed one of them wanted

girls who were killed one of them wanted

girls who were killed one of them wanted to be buried separately but three of

to be buried separately but three of

to be buried separately but three of them were funerals together and their

them were funerals together and their

them were funerals together and their caskets are taken down the highway and

caskets are taken down the highway and

caskets are taken down the highway and this is spectators watching him go by

this is spectators watching him go by

this is spectators watching him go by and this woman just seems to me to sum

and this woman just seems to me to sum

and this woman just seems to me to sum everything up she’s saying what the hell

everything up she’s saying what the hell

everything up she’s saying what the hell is happening here how did this happen

is happening here how did this happen

is happening here how did this happen how does something like this come along

how does something like this come along

how does something like this come along she looks so so bereft so angry so awful

she looks so so bereft so angry so awful

she looks so so bereft so angry so awful you know I when I had this I had a

you know I when I had this I had a

you know I when I had this I had a little trepidation about making these

little trepidation about making these

little trepidation about making these comments about the National Geographic

comments about the National Geographic

comments about the National Geographic magazine and I almost crossed it out cuz

magazine and I almost crossed it out cuz

magazine and I almost crossed it out cuz but it worked out alright but aside from

but it worked out alright but aside from

but it worked out alright but aside from the bleeds and things like that I was

the bleeds and things like that I was

the bleeds and things like that I was going to say there should be some limit

going to say there should be some limit

going to say there should be some limit on the length of a telephoto lens that

on the length of a telephoto lens that

on the length of a telephoto lens that was being used the trouble with that

was being used the trouble with that

was being used the trouble with that because the trouble with that is this

because the trouble with that is this

because the trouble with that is this was made with the telephoto lens so this

was made with the telephoto lens so this

was made with the telephoto lens so this should be the limit this was either 135

should be the limit this was either 135

should be the limit this was either 135 or a 105 could Nikon made both at the

or a 105 could Nikon made both at the

or a 105 could Nikon made both at the time again if no-one repeats this this

time again if no-one repeats this this

time again if no-one repeats this this might have been a 135 so that that would

might have been a 135 so that that would

might have been a 135 so that that would be the absolute maximum ever allowed in

be the absolute maximum ever allowed in

be the absolute maximum ever allowed in Kenya or any other place and and I would

Kenya or any other place and and I would

Kenya or any other place and and I would never use it again you know when I left

never use it again you know when I left

never use it again you know when I left the movement and you know I really

the movement and you know I really

the movement and you know I really wanted to be a photographer and I

wanted to be a photographer and I

wanted to be a photographer and I regarded this as kind of juvenile yeah

regarded this as kind of juvenile yeah

regarded this as kind of juvenile yeah and there was only a single picture I

and there was only a single picture I

and there was only a single picture I thought you know was actually worthy of

thought you know was actually worthy of

thought you know was actually worthy of the you know not a political world but

the you know not a political world but

the you know not a political world but of the world of the art world and that

of the world of the art world and that

of the world of the art world and that was these cops giving me the finger

was these cops giving me the finger

was these cops giving me the finger which was also made with the same lens

which was also made with the same lens

which was also made with the same lens and it’s remark

and it’s remark

and it’s remark in the pictures how successful this lens

in the pictures how successful this lens

in the pictures how successful this lens was which I now don’t want anyone else

was which I now don’t want anyone else

was which I now don’t want anyone else to use the these are the among the staff

to use the these are the among the staff

to use the these are the among the staff members of the Student Nonviolent

members of the Student Nonviolent

members of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee is Julian Bond

Coordinating Committee is Julian Bond

Coordinating Committee is Julian Bond sneaking a smoke in the corner Jean

sneaking a smoke in the corner Jean

sneaking a smoke in the corner Jean Smith John Lewis Judy Richardson better

Smith John Lewis Judy Richardson better

Smith John Lewis Judy Richardson better known as Judy Rudy I don’t know who this

known as Judy Rudy I don’t know who this

known as Judy Rudy I don’t know who this guy the glasses is large gia who lived

guy the glasses is large gia who lived

guy the glasses is large gia who lived here in DC and Stella well Michael fell

here in DC and Stella well Michael fell

here in DC and Stella well Michael fell well who’s at the University of

well who’s at the University of

well who’s at the University of Massachusetts Leicester McKinney Marion

Massachusetts Leicester McKinney Marion

Massachusetts Leicester McKinney Marion Barry again James Forman here in the

Barry again James Forman here in the

Barry again James Forman here in the foreground and there’s a guy behind him

foreground and there’s a guy behind him

foreground and there’s a guy behind him this white guy no this white guy very

this white guy no this white guy very

this white guy no this white guy very well but I can’t think of his name

well but I can’t think of his name

well but I can’t think of his name MacArthur cotton and Mike’s ear I might

MacArthur cotton and Mike’s ear I might

MacArthur cotton and Mike’s ear I might say her

say her

say her unlike many people who work for snake

unlike many people who work for snake

unlike many people who work for snake his back living in Mississippi now and

his back living in Mississippi now and

his back living in Mississippi now and he’s still working down he’s still

he’s still working down he’s still

he’s still working down he’s still working still doing what he did then

working still doing what he did then

working still doing what he did then just he became a lawyer and just doing a

just he became a lawyer and just doing a

just he became a lawyer and just doing a lot of goods good stuff did you see the

lot of goods good stuff did you see the

lot of goods good stuff did you see the thing in Delta and we’re not where are

thing in Delta and we’re not where are

thing in Delta and we’re not where are we wash and in Atlanta you go through

we wash and in Atlanta you go through

we wash and in Atlanta you go through the tunnels and Delta from B to C yeah

the tunnels and Delta from B to C yeah

the tunnels and Delta from B to C yeah and they had this huge lunch counter

and they had this huge lunch counter

and they had this huge lunch counter they do like the history of Atlanta they

they do like the history of Atlanta they

they do like the history of Atlanta they start with like Indians throwing rocks

start with like Indians throwing rocks

start with like Indians throwing rocks at each other and then but you know I

at each other and then but you know I

at each other and then but you know I didn’t realize it was under construction

didn’t realize it was under construction

didn’t realize it was under construction so so you kind of get in you get the

so so you kind of get in you get the

so so you kind of get in you get the Civil War and they burn the city and

Civil War and they burn the city and

Civil War and they burn the city and they ass Nick and that’s massive yeah

they ass Nick and that’s massive yeah

they ass Nick and that’s massive yeah you know just like as big as that one of

you know just like as big as that one of

you know just like as big as that one of my pictures of the lunch counter all

my pictures of the lunch counter all

my pictures of the lunch counter all right and I thought that was so I will

right and I thought that was so I will

right and I thought that was so I will see though yeah I got pictures I thought

see though yeah I got pictures I thought

see though yeah I got pictures I thought it was great you know and I think it

it was great you know and I think it

it was great you know and I think it went through Magnum and it wasn’t

went through Magnum and it wasn’t

went through Magnum and it wasn’t credited but it was huge and I was want

credited but it was huge and I was want

credited but it was huge and I was want to do a work of art in public places I

to do a work of art in public places I

to do a work of art in public places I got to do it but and then it was a

got to do it but and then it was a

got to do it but and then it was a picture of John and some other stuff but

picture of John and some other stuff but

picture of John and some other stuff but he never went from you know you don’t go

he never went from you know you don’t go

he never went from you know you don’t go on Delta yeah I do but they have a new

on Delta yeah I do but they have a new

on Delta yeah I do but they have a new mayor in New York City you know you get

mayor in New York City you know you get

mayor in New York City you know you get something in the same he’s a well I

something in the same he’s a well I

something in the same he’s a well I couldn’t be

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