so our relationship with animals is constantly evolving for the longest time
constantly evolving for the longest time
constantly evolving for the longest time science could just never accept what
science could just never accept what
science could just never accept what most pet owners know is that animals
most pet owners know is that animals
most pet owners know is that animals think and feel but proving that they
think and feel but proving that they
think and feel but proving that they have thoughts and emotions is a lot of
have thoughts and emotions is a lot of
have thoughts and emotions is a lot of what this work is about the question for
what this work is about the question for
what this work is about the question for me next is really about over this 10,000
me next is really about over this 10,000
me next is really about over this 10,000 years how does an animal that’s intended
years how does an animal that’s intended
years how does an animal that’s intended for the dining room how does it go to
for the dining room how does it go to
for the dining room how does it go to the living room thank you you’re you’re
the living room thank you you’re you’re
the living room thank you you’re you’re very kind and it all started for me when
very kind and it all started for me when
very kind and it all started for me when I bought a haunted house it’s true
I bought a haunted house it’s true
I bought a haunted house it’s true that’s what the neighbors told me but it
that’s what the neighbors told me but it
that’s what the neighbors told me but it was after I bought the house here’s a
was after I bought the house here’s a
was after I bought the house here’s a photograph of it the previous tenants
photograph of it the previous tenants
photograph of it the previous tenants had heard all this scratching and
had heard all this scratching and
had heard all this scratching and kicking and rumbling and cranking all
kicking and rumbling and cranking all
kicking and rumbling and cranking all around the house and they thought it was
around the house and they thought it was
around the house and they thought it was the ghost of Edgar Allan Poe who lived
the ghost of Edgar Allan Poe who lived
the ghost of Edgar Allan Poe who lived in the neighborhood where I live now so
in the neighborhood where I live now so
in the neighborhood where I live now so I did what any sane person would do I
I did what any sane person would do I
I did what any sane person would do I called an exorcist his name was Mike
called an exorcist his name was Mike
called an exorcist his name was Mike Hughes and he’s a trapper and a
Hughes and he’s a trapper and a
Hughes and he’s a trapper and a specialist in nuisance wildlife so he
specialist in nuisance wildlife so he
specialist in nuisance wildlife so he managed to get all the ghosts out of my
managed to get all the ghosts out of my
managed to get all the ghosts out of my house the squirrels the possums the nine
house the squirrels the possums the nine
house the squirrels the possums the nine raccoons the birds rats it was either
raccoons the birds rats it was either
raccoons the birds rats it was either that or designated a National Wildlife
that or designated a National Wildlife
that or designated a National Wildlife Refuge now Mike had quite a menagerie at
Refuge now Mike had quite a menagerie at
Refuge now Mike had quite a menagerie at his own home and I was curious so I
his own home and I was curious so I
his own home and I was curious so I photographed him and some of his animals
photographed him and some of his animals
photographed him and some of his animals were possums an albino raccoon and this
were possums an albino raccoon and this
were possums an albino raccoon and this iguana so I asked around some of my
iguana so I asked around some of my
iguana so I asked around some of my colleagues a lot of the guys do this
colleagues a lot of the guys do this
colleagues a lot of the guys do this we’re trying to do this eye contact
we’re trying to do this eye contact
we’re trying to do this eye contact thing it’s simple we bring an owl you
thing it’s simple we bring an owl you
thing it’s simple we bring an owl you put it on a seemless I said what do we
put it on a seemless I said what do we
put it on a seemless I said what do we do they said well you know all animals
do they said well you know all animals
do they said well you know all animals are food motivated all you have to do is
are food motivated all you have to do is
are food motivated all you have to do is really kind of provide the set and this
really kind of provide the set and this
really kind of provide the set and this is gonna work out for you oh okay
is gonna work out for you oh okay
is gonna work out for you oh okay that’s cool what mistakes were made
yeah the idea here it was the photograph
yeah the idea here it was the photograph these yeah exactly
these yeah exactly
these yeah exactly the superstars of animal cognition these
the superstars of animal cognition these
the superstars of animal cognition these are famous animals years of research had
are famous animals years of research had
are famous animals years of research had been done with them books had been
been done with them books had been
been done with them books had been written about them scientific careers
written about them scientific careers
written about them scientific careers and I was going to become the Annie
and I was going to become the Annie
and I was going to become the Annie Leibowitz of animal photographs and it
Leibowitz of animal photographs and it
Leibowitz of animal photographs and it was going to be all about eye contact
was going to be all about eye contact
was going to be all about eye contact and lighting right well it’s hard to do
and lighting right well it’s hard to do
and lighting right well it’s hard to do that when an animal won’t look at you
that when an animal won’t look at you
that when an animal won’t look at you and with some animals like this lemur
and with some animals like this lemur
and with some animals like this lemur every time I picked up a camera whom he
every time I picked up a camera whom he
every time I picked up a camera whom he was going he’d shoot away in my career
was going he’d shoot away in my career
was going he’d shoot away in my career like the lemur was vanishing before my
like the lemur was vanishing before my
like the lemur was vanishing before my eyes you don’t get a lot of second
eyes you don’t get a lot of second
eyes you don’t get a lot of second chances and I thought why is this
chances and I thought why is this
chances and I thought why is this happening why am I being punished here
happening why am I being punished here
happening why am I being punished here what have I done wrong they went all the
what have I done wrong they went all the
what have I done wrong they went all the way to Austria to photograph this
way to Austria to photograph this
way to Austria to photograph this marmoset
marmoset
marmoset his name is Momo he’s really smart okay
his name is Momo he’s really smart okay
his name is Momo he’s really smart okay big deal and he smells really bad and
big deal and he smells really bad and
big deal and he smells really bad and his head is the size of a walnut and he
his head is the size of a walnut and he
his head is the size of a walnut and he hates me see he looks calm to you
hates me see he looks calm to you
hates me see he looks calm to you doesn’t it no it’s not see he’s peeing
doesn’t it no it’s not see he’s peeing
doesn’t it no it’s not see he’s peeing on me he’s peeing on my equipment and
on me he’s peeing on my equipment and
on me he’s peeing on my equipment and he’s telling his marmoset friends to pee
he’s telling his marmoset friends to pee
he’s telling his marmoset friends to pee on me and pee on my equipment and he
on me and pee on my equipment and he
on me and pee on my equipment and he screamed at me and he wouldn’t stop and
screamed at me and he wouldn’t stop and
screamed at me and he wouldn’t stop and he told his friends to scream at me and
he told his friends to scream at me and
he told his friends to scream at me and I began to think that even fish were
I began to think that even fish were
I began to think that even fish were screaming at me from underwater this is
screaming at me from underwater this is
screaming at me from underwater this is a Gunnison prairie dog and he screamed
a Gunnison prairie dog and he screamed
a Gunnison prairie dog and he screamed at me too
at me too
at me too scientists believe these guys have
scientists believe these guys have
scientists believe these guys have language abilities sophisticated stuff
language abilities sophisticated stuff
language abilities sophisticated stuff right it’s not like oh that thinks her
right it’s not like oh that thinks her
right it’s not like oh that thinks her habits like there’s a guy from National
habits like there’s a guy from National
habits like there’s a guy from National Geographic he’s going to come here and
Geographic he’s going to come here and
Geographic he’s going to come here and take our picture this guy screamed at me
take our picture this guy screamed at me
take our picture this guy screamed at me on the phone and his he’s a rescued
on the phone and his he’s a rescued
on the phone and his he’s a rescued prairie dog from Phoenix he was hit by a
prairie dog from Phoenix he was hit by a
prairie dog from Phoenix he was hit by a car and his name is speed Bob
and he lives in Wabash Indiana and so I
and he lives in Wabash Indiana and so I didn’t know what to do I couldn’t take
didn’t know what to do I couldn’t take
didn’t know what to do I couldn’t take any more I started to scream at him back
any more I started to scream at him back
any more I started to scream at him back at him and I started to interview him
at him and I started to interview him
at him and I started to interview him like a like a press-conference
like a like a press-conference
like a like a press-conference rapid-fire mr. Bob how are the winners
rapid-fire mr. Bob how are the winners
rapid-fire mr. Bob how are the winners in Wabash what do you think all this
in Wabash what do you think all this
in Wabash what do you think all this kind of stuff and I sang to him I did
kind of stuff and I sang to him I did
kind of stuff and I sang to him I did everything I could and all of a sudden
everything I could and all of a sudden
everything I could and all of a sudden he just stopped so you see with speed
he just stopped so you see with speed
he just stopped so you see with speed bump I discovered my inner dr. dolittle
bump I discovered my inner dr. dolittle
bump I discovered my inner dr. dolittle and I embarked on this new career if I
and I embarked on this new career if I
and I embarked on this new career if I could just talk to the animals show this
could just talk to the animals show this
could just talk to the animals show this respect and patience and things I didn’t
respect and patience and things I didn’t
respect and patience and things I didn’t have much off to be honest with you I
have much off to be honest with you I
have much off to be honest with you I might find what I was looking for now
might find what I was looking for now
might find what I was looking for now this is konzi he was a real test for
this is konzi he was a real test for
this is konzi he was a real test for sure anybody know cause he’s a bonobo
sure anybody know cause he’s a bonobo
sure anybody know cause he’s a bonobo he’s a pygmy chimpanzee he understands
he’s a pygmy chimpanzee he understands
he’s a pygmy chimpanzee he understands about 3,000 spoken words it’s it’s
about 3,000 spoken words it’s it’s
about 3,000 spoken words it’s it’s incredible so now he communicates with
incredible so now he communicates with
incredible so now he communicates with humans using this vocabulary that’s
humans using this vocabulary that’s
humans using this vocabulary that’s drawn from like 350 symbols is LexA
drawn from like 350 symbols is LexA
drawn from like 350 symbols is LexA Grahams and they’re printed on a sort of
Grahams and they’re printed on a sort of
Grahams and they’re printed on a sort of like placemat laminated thing he walks
like placemat laminated thing he walks
like placemat laminated thing he walks around with it and he makes complex
around with it and he makes complex
around with it and he makes complex sentences Kanzi wants this now with this
sentences Kanzi wants this now with this
sentences Kanzi wants this now with this person there it’s not like pointing to
person there it’s not like pointing to
person there it’s not like pointing to the thing and the lexigram for an orange
the thing and the lexigram for an orange
the thing and the lexigram for an orange may not look like an orange it’s real
may not look like an orange it’s real
may not look like an orange it’s real sophisticated stuff so I got there and
sophisticated stuff so I got there and
sophisticated stuff so I got there and they said well what did what have you
they said well what did what have you
they said well what did what have you what have you brought for konzi say
what have you brought for konzi say
what have you brought for konzi say Embry
Embry
Embry I brought my lights so we have to ask
I brought my lights so we have to ask
I brought my lights so we have to ask his permission and we have to ask him
his permission and we have to ask him
his permission and we have to ask him what he like and so they you know and in
what he like and so they you know and in
what he like and so they you know and in Kanzi and they interpreted that as konzi
Kanzi and they interpreted that as konzi
Kanzi and they interpreted that as konzi would like Starbucks coffee ER for him
would like Starbucks coffee ER for him
would like Starbucks coffee ER for him as bonobo friends
as bonobo friends
as bonobo friends and so I had to send my assistant back
and so I had to send my assistant back
and so I had to send my assistant back into town to get six grande coffees with
into town to get six grande coffees with
into town to get six grande coffees with the simple syrup for him and his bonobo
the simple syrup for him and his bonobo
the simple syrup for him and his bonobo friends and kanji every once in a while
friends and kanji every once in a while
friends and kanji every once in a while we’ll do this sort of thing where he’ll
we’ll do this sort of thing where he’ll
we’ll do this sort of thing where he’ll go and two grown-ups will chase each
go and two grown-ups will chase each
go and two grown-ups will chase each other through the holes and it’s his
other through the holes and it’s his
other through the holes and it’s his entertainment we’re around for
entertainment we’re around for
entertainment we’re around for entertainment now you’ll notice that he
entertainment now you’ll notice that he
entertainment now you’ll notice that he never really quite looked at me then it
never really quite looked at me then it
never really quite looked at me then it was intentional no matter what I did I
was intentional no matter what I did I
was intentional no matter what I did I could never get him to make eye contact
could never get him to make eye contact
could never get him to make eye contact he’s very very cool kind and very very
he’s very very cool kind and very very
he’s very very cool kind and very very sharp and I’m glad to have gone out and
sharp and I’m glad to have gone out and
sharp and I’m glad to have gone out and done it on the other extreme of this
done it on the other extreme of this
done it on the other extreme of this this is whack
this is whack
this is whack she’s a New Caledonian crow it lives in
she’s a New Caledonian crow it lives in
she’s a New Caledonian crow it lives in Oxford England when she’s not trying to
Oxford England when she’s not trying to
Oxford England when she’s not trying to poke the eyes out of visiting National
poke the eyes out of visiting National
poke the eyes out of visiting National Geographic photographers what she did
Geographic photographers what she did
Geographic photographers what she did for two days she excels at
for two days she excels at
for two days she excels at problem-solving creating tools to from
problem-solving creating tools to from
problem-solving creating tools to from materials she’s never seen before to
materials she’s never seen before to
materials she’s never seen before to solve problems she’s never been
solve problems she’s never been
solve problems she’s never been presented before the example is they
presented before the example is they
presented before the example is they would take a test tube and put something
would take a test tube and put something
would take a test tube and put something she wanted at the bottom of it food and
she wanted at the bottom of it food and
she wanted at the bottom of it food and present her with things that you could
present her with things that you could
present her with things that you could make tools from now what they didn’t
make tools from now what they didn’t
make tools from now what they didn’t know to this point was that these
know to this point was that these
know to this point was that these animals can make tools which is
animals can make tools which is
animals can make tools which is different than using tools chimps do
different than using tools chimps do
different than using tools chimps do this humans do this very few animals
this humans do this very few animals
this humans do this very few animals possess this capability and wek could
possess this capability and wek could
possess this capability and wek could take something and fashion a tool from
take something and fashion a tool from
take something and fashion a tool from it to reach into the test tube and get
it to reach into the test tube and get
it to reach into the test tube and get the thing out of it that you were
the thing out of it that you were
the thing out of it that you were looking for from something she had never
looking for from something she had never
looking for from something she had never been presented before there’s amazing
been presented before there’s amazing
been presented before there’s amazing stuff now this is Betsy Betsy is so
stuff now this is Betsy Betsy is so
stuff now this is Betsy Betsy is so famous that that’s not even her real
famous that that’s not even her real
famous that that’s not even her real name I’m not kidding she’s a border
name I’m not kidding she’s a border
name I’m not kidding she’s a border collie living in Vienna and she has the
collie living in Vienna and she has the
collie living in Vienna and she has the vocabulary of a toddler she can hear a
vocabulary of a toddler she can hear a
vocabulary of a toddler she can hear a word once or twice and know that it
word once or twice and know that it
word once or twice and know that it means something she can link photographs
means something she can link photographs
means something she can link photographs with an object in the photograph the
with an object in the photograph the
with an object in the photograph the example would be to show her a
example would be to show her a
example would be to show her a photograph of a teddy bear let’s say
photograph of a teddy bear let’s say
photograph of a teddy bear let’s say it’s Randi right and say go find Randy
it’s Randi right and say go find Randy
it’s Randi right and say go find Randy and send her into another room full of
and send her into another room full of
and send her into another room full of these stuffed animals she’ll look around
these stuffed animals she’ll look around
these stuffed animals she’ll look around and she’s got she’s pretty good and
and she’s got she’s pretty good and
and she’s got she’s pretty good and she’ll find the thing in the photograph
she’ll find the thing in the photograph
she’ll find the thing in the photograph bring it back to you two or three times
bring it back to you two or three times
bring it back to you two or three times come back in six months she’s got it
come back in six months she’s got it
come back in six months she’s got it locked in it’s it’s an incredible thing
locked in it’s it’s an incredible thing
locked in it’s it’s an incredible thing we put shanti here she’s a 9,000 pound
we put shanti here she’s a 9,000 pound
we put shanti here she’s a 9,000 pound asian elephant we put her on an enormous
asian elephant we put her on an enormous
asian elephant we put her on an enormous white seamless background you know
white seamless background you know
white seamless background you know they’re among the most intelligent
they’re among the most intelligent
they’re among the most intelligent animals they
animals they
animals they mimic behavior they have language
mimic behavior they have language
mimic behavior they have language abilities memory but when they look in
abilities memory but when they look in
abilities memory but when they look in the mirror they see themselves and it’s
the mirror they see themselves and it’s
the mirror they see themselves and it’s a rare cognitive accomplishment that we
a rare cognitive accomplishment that we
a rare cognitive accomplishment that we know is only shared by great apes and
know is only shared by great apes and
know is only shared by great apes and dolphins in some humans at the Bronx Zoo
dolphins in some humans at the Bronx Zoo
dolphins in some humans at the Bronx Zoo elephants were put in front of mirrors
elephants were put in front of mirrors
elephants were put in front of mirrors and at first they treated them here as
and at first they treated them here as
and at first they treated them here as an object as you might imagine but then
an object as you might imagine but then
an object as you might imagine but then they started to check themselves out
they started to check themselves out
they started to check themselves out they’d lift their trunks and they would
they’d lift their trunks and they would
they’d lift their trunks and they would look at things in different places see
look at things in different places see
look at things in different places see for the longest time science could just
for the longest time science could just
for the longest time science could just never accept what most pet owners and
never accept what most pet owners and
never accept what most pet owners and our is that animals think and feel but
our is that animals think and feel but
our is that animals think and feel but proving proving that they have thoughts
proving proving that they have thoughts
proving proving that they have thoughts and emotions is a lot of what this work
and emotions is a lot of what this work
and emotions is a lot of what this work is about and the scientists can consider
is about and the scientists can consider
is about and the scientists can consider this a collaboration between them and
this a collaboration between them and
this a collaboration between them and the animals their work teaches us about
the animals their work teaches us about
the animals their work teaches us about the boundaries of humanity it’s really
the boundaries of humanity it’s really
the boundaries of humanity it’s really exciting stuff that it’s about these
exciting stuff that it’s about these
exciting stuff that it’s about these characteristics that are distinctly
characteristics that are distinctly
characteristics that are distinctly human and things that aren’t this is a
human and things that aren’t this is a
human and things that aren’t this is a lemur at do his name is Arista Dee’s and
lemur at do his name is Arista Dee’s and
lemur at do his name is Arista Dee’s and they used to think these guys were not
they used to think these guys were not
they used to think these guys were not so smart they’re primates but they’re on
so smart they’re primates but they’re on
so smart they’re primates but they’re on the lower end but he learns like a
the lower end but he learns like a
the lower end but he learns like a toddler does he’s learning how to count
toddler does he’s learning how to count
toddler does he’s learning how to count he uses a touchscreen with his nose and
he uses a touchscreen with his nose and
he uses a touchscreen with his nose and a lot of the stuff is food rewards right
a lot of the stuff is food rewards right
a lot of the stuff is food rewards right so you do this right the sequence you
so you do this right the sequence you
so you do this right the sequence you get something but they they’re very
get something but they they’re very
get something but they they’re very great enthusiasm for it so they don’t
great enthusiasm for it so they don’t
great enthusiasm for it so they don’t need to be fed they just like to do it
need to be fed they just like to do it
need to be fed they just like to do it and rats that may or may not have a
and rats that may or may not have a
and rats that may or may not have a sense of humor but they laugh there’s a
sense of humor but they laugh there’s a
sense of humor but they laugh there’s a guy at Bowling Green his name is yack
guy at Bowling Green his name is yack
guy at Bowling Green his name is yack pensa and they call him the rat tickler
pensa and they call him the rat tickler
pensa and they call him the rat tickler he takes rats in a and he tickles him
he takes rats in a and he tickles him
he takes rats in a and he tickles him and they laugh and so they’re trying to
and they laugh and so they’re trying to
and they laugh and so they’re trying to figure that they play jokes on each
figure that they play jokes on each
figure that they play jokes on each other and stuff and there’s not a day
other and stuff and there’s not a day
other and stuff and there’s not a day that goes by we don’t learn something
that goes by we don’t learn something
that goes by we don’t learn something about honeybees right they’re really
about honeybees right they’re really
about honeybees right they’re really highly evolved socially and they have
highly evolved socially and they have
highly evolved socially and they have this complex behaviors and communication
this complex behaviors and communication
this complex behaviors and communication and navigation they learn colors and
and navigation they learn colors and
and navigation they learn colors and scents and they can map their
scents and they can map their
scents and they can map their environment on all with the brain the
environment on all with the brain the
environment on all with the brain the size of milligram it’s little tiny thing
size of milligram it’s little tiny thing
size of milligram it’s little tiny thing and and now according to some work we
and and now according to some work we
and and now according to some work we think we find out they might have
think we find out they might have
think we find out they might have emotions they might possess passes
emotions they might possess passes
emotions they might possess passes pessimism this is a scrub J called
pessimism this is a scrub J called
pessimism this is a scrub J called psycho bird
psycho bird
psycho bird and they plan for the future they take
and they plan for the future they take
and they plan for the future they take these birds and when they go to sleep at
these birds and when they go to sleep at
these birds and when they go to sleep at night they wake up in two different
night they wake up in two different
night they wake up in two different rooms and in one room in the morning
rooms and in one room in the morning
rooms and in one room in the morning they feed them breakfast any other room
they feed them breakfast any other room
they feed them breakfast any other room they don’t and after a while they give
they don’t and after a while they give
they don’t and after a while they give them the option the feed at night and
them the option the feed at night and
them the option the feed at night and what they do is they do this thing
what they do is they do this thing
what they do is they do this thing called cashing they take food put it in
called cashing they take food put it in
called cashing they take food put it in their mouth they hide it and then they
their mouth they hide it and then they
their mouth they hide it and then they can hide it in a certain place and come
can hide it in a certain place and come
can hide it in a certain place and come back and get it later
back and get it later
back and get it later these birds all hid it in the room that
these birds all hid it in the room that
these birds all hid it in the room that didn’t have food in the morning because
didn’t have food in the morning because
didn’t have food in the morning because they didn’t know if they were going to
they didn’t know if they were going to
they didn’t know if they were going to wake up in that room
wake up in that room
wake up in that room no the cashing thing is extraordinary
no the cashing thing is extraordinary
no the cashing thing is extraordinary because they he’s cashing right now
because they he’s cashing right now
because they he’s cashing right now right and every time I’m not looking at
right and every time I’m not looking at
right and every time I’m not looking at him he’ll go yeah
him he’ll go yeah
him he’ll go yeah and spit it out because he’s afraid I’m
and spit it out because he’s afraid I’m
and spit it out because he’s afraid I’m going to know where he’s hiding it so
going to know where he’s hiding it so
going to know where he’s hiding it so they’ll hide it and then if they think
they’ll hide it and then if they think
they’ll hide it and then if they think they’ve been seen hiding it they’ll be
they’ve been seen hiding it they’ll be
they’ve been seen hiding it they’ll be like sneaky and they’ll hide it
like sneaky and they’ll hide it
like sneaky and they’ll hide it somewhere else and you know chimps are
somewhere else and you know chimps are
somewhere else and you know chimps are our closest relatives right we got 99%
our closest relatives right we got 99%
our closest relatives right we got 99% of the same DNA with these guys and we
of the same DNA with these guys and we
of the same DNA with these guys and we studied them for a very long time since
studied them for a very long time since
studied them for a very long time since the 50s right Jane Goodall and they make
the 50s right Jane Goodall and they make
the 50s right Jane Goodall and they make tools and these guys they love and trust
tools and these guys they love and trust
tools and these guys they love and trust they have morals they fight they forgive
they have morals they fight they forgive
they have morals they fight they forgive they cooperate they’ve culture and they
they cooperate they’ve culture and they
they cooperate they’ve culture and they have these unique ways of doing things
have these unique ways of doing things
have these unique ways of doing things problem-solving social responsibility
problem-solving social responsibility
problem-solving social responsibility and it’s all spread by learning mostly
and it’s all spread by learning mostly
and it’s all spread by learning mostly by women females like Georgia here will
by women females like Georgia here will
by women females like Georgia here will pass these culture traditions cultural
pass these culture traditions cultural
pass these culture traditions cultural traditions on to the other chimps and
traditions on to the other chimps and
traditions on to the other chimps and keep this thing going
keep this thing going
keep this thing going these are cichlids and they’re really
these are cichlids and they’re really
these are cichlids and they’re really crazy they have this thing called
crazy they have this thing called
crazy they have this thing called transitive inference right and it’s the
transitive inference right and it’s the
transitive inference right and it’s the same kind of logical reasoning that we
same kind of logical reasoning that we
same kind of logical reasoning that we use when we go into a bar and we don’t
use when we go into a bar and we don’t
use when we go into a bar and we don’t pick a fight with the tallest kind of
pick a fight with the tallest kind of
pick a fight with the tallest kind of bar and these fish in order to get ahead
bar and these fish in order to get ahead
bar and these fish in order to get ahead in their social rank need to keep
in their social rank need to keep
in their social rank need to keep fighting so they fight a fish they get
fighting so they fight a fish they get
fighting so they fight a fish they get their colors they get a head and social
their colors they get a head and social
their colors they get a head and social standing and you start fighting again
standing and you start fighting again
standing and you start fighting again but they know not to pick a fight with
but they know not to pick a fight with
but they know not to pick a fight with the wrong guy and it’s just like step on
the wrong guy and it’s just like step on
the wrong guy and it’s just like step on the way to logical reasoning for fish
the way to logical reasoning for fish
the way to logical reasoning for fish sheep have facial recognition they
sheep have facial recognition they
sheep have facial recognition they recognize faces of other sheep up to 50
recognize faces of other sheep up to 50
recognize faces of other sheep up to 50 M for like two years and up to ten
M for like two years and up to ten
M for like two years and up to ten humans for two years it’s amazing this
humans for two years it’s amazing this
humans for two years it’s amazing this is a Z he’s a magnificent animal he
is a Z he’s a magnificent animal he
is a Z he’s a magnificent animal he comes into the room and he’s well that’s
comes into the room and he’s well that’s
comes into the room and he’s well that’s actually life-size
orangutans above all the great apes find
orangutans above all the great apes find their contemplative they make choices
their contemplative they make choices
their contemplative they make choices that are logical they’re thoughtful
that are logical they’re thoughtful
that are logical they’re thoughtful maybe more than chimpanzees this is a
maybe more than chimpanzees this is a
maybe more than chimpanzees this is a Pacific giant octopus they have
Pacific giant octopus they have
Pacific giant octopus they have personalities they use tools they
personalities they use tools they
personalities they use tools they recognize individuals and they play
recognize individuals and they play
recognize individuals and they play David Lynch Walker whose photographs
David Lynch Walker whose photographs
David Lynch Walker whose photographs graced the side of the building here
graced the side of the building here
graced the side of the building here told me a story and he said at the
told me a story and he said at the
told me a story and he said at the Monterey aquarium once he was doing a
Monterey aquarium once he was doing a
Monterey aquarium once he was doing a tour with an entourage that included the
tour with an entourage that included the
tour with an entourage that included the Dali Lama who was dressed in his robe
Dali Lama who was dressed in his robe
Dali Lama who was dressed in his robe and they passed the giant octopus who
and they passed the giant octopus who
and they passed the giant octopus who was as they often are way in the back of
was as they often are way in the back of
was as they often are way in the back of their tank and he was modelled tan and
their tank and he was modelled tan and
their tank and he was modelled tan and the octopus saw the dalai lama come
the octopus saw the dalai lama come
the octopus saw the dalai lama come through the room and leap to the front
through the room and leap to the front
through the room and leap to the front of the tank put itself on the edge of
of the tank put itself on the edge of
of the tank put itself on the edge of the tank and change to the color of the
the tank and change to the color of the
the tank and change to the color of the dalai lama’s robe they’re pretty sneaky
dalai lama’s robe they’re pretty sneaky
dalai lama’s robe they’re pretty sneaky in Seattle they had these guys and they
in Seattle they had these guys and they
in Seattle they had these guys and they would at night they block the air
would at night they block the air
would at night they block the air pressure and they blow the tops of the
pressure and they blow the tops of the
pressure and they blow the tops of the tanks they’d sneak off into the other
tanks they’d sneak off into the other
tanks they’d sneak off into the other exhibits eat the other fish go back to
exhibits eat the other fish go back to
exhibits eat the other fish go back to their tanks leaving a trail of water and
their tanks leaving a trail of water and
their tanks leaving a trail of water and go man I don’t see nothing this is Alex
go man I don’t see nothing this is Alex
go man I don’t see nothing this is Alex Alex could use a hundred words and he
Alex could use a hundred words and he
Alex could use a hundred words and he had the intelligence of a five-year-old
had the intelligence of a five-year-old
had the intelligence of a five-year-old he could count to seven he knew same
he could count to seven he knew same
he could count to seven he knew same from different he knew larger from
from different he knew larger from
from different he knew larger from smaller he would talk to you
smaller he would talk to you
smaller he would talk to you where’d you Dickel me and I
where’d you Dickel me and I
where’d you Dickel me and I and I said sure um show me where and he
and I said sure um show me where and he
and I said sure um show me where and he put down his head and he lifted the
put down his head and he lifted the
put down his head and he lifted the feathers up on the crook of his neck and
feathers up on the crook of his neck and
feathers up on the crook of his neck and so I tickled him and he could you tickle
so I tickled him and he could you tickle
so I tickled him and he could you tickle me on the chair and we went and sat on a
me on the chair and we went and sat on a
me on the chair and we went and sat on a chair and we had this delightful
chair and we had this delightful
chair and we had this delightful afternoon it’s true he passed away at 31
afternoon it’s true he passed away at 31
afternoon it’s true he passed away at 31 which is young for a parent and when he
which is young for a parent and when he
which is young for a parent and when he died his obituary was in the New York
died his obituary was in the New York
died his obituary was in the New York Times that’s how famous he was it’s true
Times that’s how famous he was it’s true
Times that’s how famous he was it’s true it’s true so our relationship with
it’s true so our relationship with
it’s true so our relationship with animals is constantly evolving it’s it’s
animals is constantly evolving it’s it’s
animals is constantly evolving it’s it’s a really fascinating thing to me and
a really fascinating thing to me and
a really fascinating thing to me and probably the single most important part
probably the single most important part
probably the single most important part of this is domestication right millions
of this is domestication right millions
of this is domestication right millions of animals on the planet right there’s
of animals on the planet right there’s
of animals on the planet right there’s like 14 large mammals that have been
like 14 large mammals that have been
like 14 large mammals that have been domesticated nobody knows why nobody
domesticated nobody knows why nobody
domesticated nobody knows why nobody knows how all dogs come from moles and
knows how all dogs come from moles and
knows how all dogs come from moles and as a result of all of this evolving over
as a result of all of this evolving over
as a result of all of this evolving over the years
the years
the years dogs are changing it’s because
dogs are changing it’s because
dogs are changing it’s because domestication didn’t just happen it’s
domestication didn’t just happen it’s
domestication didn’t just happen it’s still going on so these researchers at
still going on so these researchers at
still going on so these researchers at Duke are telling this dog that there’s
Duke are telling this dog that there’s
Duke are telling this dog that there’s food under those of those cups and there
food under those of those cups and there
food under those of those cups and there isn’t so one of them tells the truth all
isn’t so one of them tells the truth all
isn’t so one of them tells the truth all the time one of them doesn’t and the dog
the time one of them doesn’t and the dog
the time one of them doesn’t and the dog is figuring out which one’s telling the
is figuring out which one’s telling the
is figuring out which one’s telling the truth and then they mix it up it’s an
truth and then they mix it up it’s an
truth and then they mix it up it’s an amazing thing so you have these things
amazing thing so you have these things
amazing thing so you have these things that happen to an animal once we’ve
that happen to an animal once we’ve
that happen to an animal once we’ve domesticated it right but across the
domesticated it right but across the
domesticated it right but across the board what we’ve done is lost all the
board what we’ve done is lost all the
board what we’ve done is lost all the wild animals they’re no wild cows
wild animals they’re no wild cows
wild animals they’re no wild cows anymore right wild aurochs were the
anymore right wild aurochs were the
anymore right wild aurochs were the originals right so we’ve lost all of
originals right so we’ve lost all of
originals right so we’ve lost all of that and we have only a few animals that
that and we have only a few animals that
that and we have only a few animals that can go back so pigs can go back and be
can go back so pigs can go back and be
can go back so pigs can go back and be feral cats can do it we think now that
feral cats can do it we think now that
feral cats can do it we think now that cats may not really be domesticated they
cats may not really be domesticated they
cats may not really be domesticated they just might be tolerating us it’s true
just might be tolerating us it’s true
just might be tolerating us it’s true they chose humans so the question for me
they chose humans so the question for me
they chose humans so the question for me next is really about over this ten
next is really about over this ten
next is really about over this ten thousand years how does an animal that’s
thousand years how does an animal that’s
thousand years how does an animal that’s intended for the dining room
intended for the dining room
intended for the dining room how does it go to the living room
how does it go to the living room
the support belly pig that lives in st.
the support belly pig that lives in st. Paul Minnesota her name’s Daisy Mae and
Paul Minnesota her name’s Daisy Mae and
Paul Minnesota her name’s Daisy Mae and she’s blind and when the owners got it
she’s blind and when the owners got it
she’s blind and when the owners got it they almost had to get rid of her
they almost had to get rid of her
they almost had to get rid of her because there was a law in the books it
because there was a law in the books it
because there was a law in the books it said you know Cougars lions pot-bellied
said you know Cougars lions pot-bellied
said you know Cougars lions pot-bellied pigs were vicious animals and so they
pigs were vicious animals and so they
pigs were vicious animals and so they changed laws because of this pigs pretty
changed laws because of this pigs pretty
changed laws because of this pigs pretty cool this whole idea of exotic pets is
cool this whole idea of exotic pets is
cool this whole idea of exotic pets is kind of hot-button right everybody’s a
kind of hot-button right everybody’s a
kind of hot-button right everybody’s a little bit converse in it we always see
little bit converse in it we always see
little bit converse in it we always see something on the news about it I wanted
something on the news about it I wanted
something on the news about it I wanted to do a piece on the relationship humans
to do a piece on the relationship humans
to do a piece on the relationship humans had with these animals what possessed
had with these animals what possessed
had with these animals what possessed somebody to want to have one I didn’t
somebody to want to have one I didn’t
somebody to want to have one I didn’t want to judge him I wanted to give them
want to judge him I wanted to give them
want to judge him I wanted to give them their piece so it’s a capybara going for
their piece so it’s a capybara going for
their piece so it’s a capybara going for his afternoon swim in Texas the Jumbo
his afternoon swim in Texas the Jumbo
his afternoon swim in Texas the Jumbo rat rod it pretty cool guy and this is
rat rod it pretty cool guy and this is
rat rod it pretty cool guy and this is one of my favorite of all time as dilly
one of my favorite of all time as dilly
one of my favorite of all time as dilly she’s beautiful and she is born in 2004
she’s beautiful and she is born in 2004
she’s beautiful and she is born in 2004 was an Amish breeder
was an Amish breeder
was an Amish breeder who had an animal that was going to
who had an animal that was going to
who had an animal that was going to probably die and in the middle of the
probably die and in the middle of the
probably die and in the middle of the night he called up his local
night he called up his local
night he called up his local veterinarian Melanie Butera and he sort
veterinarian Melanie Butera and he sort
veterinarian Melanie Butera and he sort of got somebody to drive him to her and
of got somebody to drive him to her and
of got somebody to drive him to her and Melanie took care of this animal brought
Melanie took care of this animal brought
Melanie took care of this animal brought it back to life over a long period of
it back to life over a long period of
it back to life over a long period of time and now Dilli lives in her house
time and now Dilli lives in her house
time and now Dilli lives in her house this is on the second floor of a house
this is on the second floor of a house
this is on the second floor of a house she goes at a bathroom in the kitchen on
she goes at a bathroom in the kitchen on
she goes at a bathroom in the kitchen on towels eats spaghetti from a plate goes
towels eats spaghetti from a plate goes
towels eats spaghetti from a plate goes up and down a set of stairs and she’s
up and down a set of stairs and she’s
up and down a set of stairs and she’s the most wonderful animal I’ve ever been
the most wonderful animal I’ve ever been
the most wonderful animal I’ve ever been around she really is extraordinary and
around she really is extraordinary and
around she really is extraordinary and you know she has her own webcam you guys
you know she has her own webcam you guys
you know she has her own webcam you guys probably have that there was a point
probably have that there was a point
probably have that there was a point there where she got a little freaked out
there where she got a little freaked out
there where she got a little freaked out because somebody came by with that
because somebody came by with that
because somebody came by with that Burt’s bee stuff and it she thought it
Burt’s bee stuff and it she thought it
Burt’s bee stuff and it she thought it was a bee and so she was afraid and so
was a bee and so she was afraid and so
was a bee and so she was afraid and so she slept on the floor in a different
she slept on the floor in a different
she slept on the floor in a different place and she wasn’t visible on the
place and she wasn’t visible on the
place and she wasn’t visible on the webcam this webcam has a million unique
webcam this webcam has a million unique
webcam this webcam has a million unique visitors per month and Melanie got
visitors per month and Melanie got
visitors per month and Melanie got emails from the international space
emails from the international space
emails from the international space station saying where’s the dear
this is Albert yeah this is his bedroom
this is Albert yeah this is his bedroom yeah
yeah
yeah and hit this is a 12-foot Burmese python
and hit this is a 12-foot Burmese python
and hit this is a 12-foot Burmese python now he’s holding that Python for me I’m
now he’s holding that Python for me I’m
now he’s holding that Python for me I’m going to come clean with you on that
going to come clean with you on that
going to come clean with you on that because his room is full of every one of
because his room is full of every one of
because his room is full of every one of the most poisonous venomous aggressive
the most poisonous venomous aggressive
the most poisonous venomous aggressive snakes on earth are all there so he’s
snakes on earth are all there so he’s
snakes on earth are all there so he’s got these Egyptian Cobras and king
got these Egyptian Cobras and king
got these Egyptian Cobras and king cobras and Australian Browns and on
cobras and Australian Browns and on
cobras and Australian Browns and on every one it’s like the Museum of
every one it’s like the Museum of
every one it’s like the Museum of Natural History in there done it and
Natural History in there done it and
Natural History in there done it and every one of those cages these things
every one of those cages these things
every one of those cages these things has a little thing on it listing what
has a little thing on it listing what
has a little thing on it listing what the animal is and what the anti-venom is
the animal is and what the anti-venom is
the animal is and what the anti-venom is and on the door is a list of directions
and on the door is a list of directions
and on the door is a list of directions to the hospital that has the anti-venom
to the hospital that has the anti-venom
to the hospital that has the anti-venom because he’s been bitten a hundred times
because he’s been bitten a hundred times
because he’s been bitten a hundred times and so he’s like hey you won’t bring the
and so he’s like hey you won’t bring the
and so he’s like hey you won’t bring the king cobra no I don’t he feeds he
king cobra no I don’t he feeds he
king cobra no I don’t he feeds he single-handedly figured out how to deal
single-handedly figured out how to deal
single-handedly figured out how to deal with this invasive species thing in
with this invasive species thing in
with this invasive species thing in Florida he feeds smaller pythons to the
Florida he feeds smaller pythons to the
Florida he feeds smaller pythons to the Cobras chops in mouth gives him to the
Cobras chops in mouth gives him to the
Cobras chops in mouth gives him to the Cobras here you go not this one but he
Cobras here you go not this one but he
Cobras here you go not this one but he did that now the one thing I should tell
did that now the one thing I should tell
did that now the one thing I should tell you is that none of these animals are
you is that none of these animals are
you is that none of these animals are truly wild these are captive born
truly wild these are captive born
truly wild these are captive born animals and they’re been very very far
animals and they’re been very very far
animals and they’re been very very far away from any wild bloodlines
away from any wild bloodlines
away from any wild bloodlines they can’t go back to the wild cuz they
they can’t go back to the wild cuz they
they can’t go back to the wild cuz they never came from the wild Melanie
never came from the wild Melanie
never came from the wild Melanie typaldos has this big capybara and she’s
typaldos has this big capybara and she’s
typaldos has this big capybara and she’s home every day he goes for a swim at
home every day he goes for a swim at
home every day he goes for a swim at 4:00 and she’ll feed him in the pool and
4:00 and she’ll feed him in the pool and
4:00 and she’ll feed him in the pool and his name is Gary which is short for
his name is Gary which is short for
his name is Gary which is short for Garibaldi Roos Rous rodent of unusual
Garibaldi Roos Rous rodent of unusual
Garibaldi Roos Rous rodent of unusual size
size
size he’s 120 pounds and he’s 3 years old
he’s 120 pounds and he’s 3 years old
he’s 120 pounds and he’s 3 years old this is her second one and this is not
this is her second one and this is not
this is her second one and this is not an animal that takes what kindly to
an animal that takes what kindly to
an animal that takes what kindly to humans right you have to earn trust with
humans right you have to earn trust with
humans right you have to earn trust with this thing
this thing
this thing and they have an incredible relationship
and they have an incredible relationship
and they have an incredible relationship and Mario Infante and his cougar Sasha
and Mario Infante and his cougar Sasha
and Mario Infante and his cougar Sasha this is his child and I went down I got
this is his child and I went down I got
this is his child and I went down I got to tell you I saw it and it was a real
to tell you I saw it and it was a real
to tell you I saw it and it was a real bond it was not like a trophy for this
bond it was not like a trophy for this
bond it was not like a trophy for this guy cuz nobody’s gonna find him you know
guy cuz nobody’s gonna find him you know
guy cuz nobody’s gonna find him you know really really an interesting situation
really really an interesting situation
really really an interesting situation oh that’s cute in a little cat that’s a
oh that’s cute in a little cat that’s a
oh that’s cute in a little cat that’s a bobcat the 6 weeks old it’s going to
bobcat the 6 weeks old it’s going to
bobcat the 6 weeks old it’s going to grow up to be a big Bobcat now a lot of
grow up to be a big Bobcat now a lot of
grow up to be a big Bobcat now a lot of people raised these things to have a
people raised these things to have a
people raised these things to have a huge human imprint on when they’re
huge human imprint on when they’re
huge human imprint on when they’re little so that hopefully when they get
little so that hopefully when they get
little so that hopefully when they get to be bigger and they go off with
to be bigger and they go off with
to be bigger and they go off with somebody that they’ll retain that it
somebody that they’ll retain that it
somebody that they’ll retain that it that they may not chew their face off
that they may not chew their face off
that they may not chew their face off kind of thing it could be very dangerous
kind of thing it could be very dangerous
kind of thing it could be very dangerous with these animals is I want to
with these animals is I want to
with these animals is I want to understate that but you know she raises
understate that but you know she raises
understate that but you know she raises them they follow her around the kitchen
them they follow her around the kitchen
them they follow her around the kitchen she has him around her dog and it’s at
she has him around her dog and it’s at
she has him around her dog and it’s at this point where this whole process
this point where this whole process
this point where this whole process starts some breeders are great some
starts some breeders are great some
starts some breeders are great some beaters are bad and there’s a whole
beaters are bad and there’s a whole
beaters are bad and there’s a whole cycle that can go after this because
cycle that can go after this because
cycle that can go after this because what you going to do if it gets too big
what you going to do if it gets too big
what you going to do if it gets too big to handle people don’t know what to do
to handle people don’t know what to do
to handle people don’t know what to do with these animals and it’s across the
with these animals and it’s across the
with these animals and it’s across the board with big cats and bears and things
board with big cats and bears and things
board with big cats and bears and things like that as you’ll see this is Mike
like that as you’ll see this is Mike
like that as you’ll see this is Mike Stapleton he’s in Ohio he has six five
Stapleton he’s in Ohio he has six five
Stapleton he’s in Ohio he has six five six Tigers and he’s suing the state
six Tigers and he’s suing the state
six Tigers and he’s suing the state because they’ve decided that they’re
because they’ve decided that they’re
because they’ve decided that they’re going to take all these laws back a
going to take all these laws back a
going to take all these laws back a little bit and you’re not going to be
little bit and you’re not going to be
little bit and you’re not going to be allowed to have one of these animals
allowed to have one of these animals
allowed to have one of these animals without huge bonds so these are all
without huge bonds so these are all
without huge bonds so these are all rescued animals these were probably
rescued animals these were probably
rescued animals these were probably photo tigers when they were Cubs people
photo tigers when they were Cubs people
photo tigers when they were Cubs people had their picture made with them and
had their picture made with them and
had their picture made with them and then they get too big and then at a year
then they get too big and then at a year
then they get too big and then at a year they go somewhere else and they’re down
they go somewhere else and they’re down
they go somewhere else and they’re down this this path what are they going to go
this this path what are they going to go
this this path what are they going to go they’re not going to go to a zoo zoos
they’re not going to go to a zoo zoos
they’re not going to go to a zoo zoos won’t take them they’ll have the room
won’t take them they’ll have the room
won’t take them they’ll have the room for him and there are only so many
for him and there are only so many
for him and there are only so many refuges it’s pretty tight the one wild
refuges it’s pretty tight the one wild
refuges it’s pretty tight the one wild animal I did photograph this is actually
animal I did photograph this is actually
animal I did photograph this is actually a real nuisance Gator and the guy with
a real nuisance Gator and the guy with
a real nuisance Gator and the guy with it is Bob freer and he got its first
it is Bob freer and he got its first
it is Bob freer and he got its first alligator when he’s 6 his dad stopped at
alligator when he’s 6 his dad stopped at
alligator when he’s 6 his dad stopped at some roadside place bottoming Gator and
some roadside place bottoming Gator and
some roadside place bottoming Gator and threw in the back side here you go
threw in the back side here you go
threw in the back side here you go and so he’s he spent his higher life now
and so he’s he spent his higher life now
and so he’s he spent his higher life now he’s got this place called Everglades
he’s got this place called Everglades
he’s got this place called Everglades outpost and he rehabilitates wildlife
outpost and he rehabilitates wildlife
outpost and he rehabilitates wildlife because lots of crazy stuff comes into
because lots of crazy stuff comes into
because lots of crazy stuff comes into Miami International Airport and so he’s
Miami International Airport and so he’s
Miami International Airport and so he’s got like snow monkeys there and he’s got
got like snow monkeys there and he’s got
got like snow monkeys there and he’s got bears and but he loves Gators ever since
bears and but he loves Gators ever since
bears and but he loves Gators ever since he was a kid and so he wrestles Gators
he was a kid and so he wrestles Gators
he was a kid and so he wrestles Gators he’s been an alligator wrestler for 30
he’s been an alligator wrestler for 30
he’s been an alligator wrestler for 30 years and I said man what’s what’s
years and I said man what’s what’s
years and I said man what’s what’s what’s the relationship but a gator like
what’s the relationship but a gator like
what’s the relationship but a gator like what do they want he said they want to
what do they want he said they want to
what do they want he said they want to be left alone so you know I don’t know
be left alone so you know I don’t know
be left alone so you know I don’t know what an exotic animal owner looks like I
what an exotic animal owner looks like I
what an exotic animal owner looks like I thought what if we took the same animal
thought what if we took the same animal
thought what if we took the same animal and we did different owners so this is a
and we did different owners so this is a
and we did different owners so this is a thing called skunkfest that was in Ohio
thing called skunkfest that was in Ohio
thing called skunkfest that was in Ohio too and we photographed a you know a
too and we photographed a you know a
too and we photographed a you know a little cross-section of some of the
little cross-section of some of the
little cross-section of some of the owners of skunks this is Travis and he’s
owners of skunks this is Travis and he’s
owners of skunks this is Travis and he’s a DJ at a strip club and Nicky’s a
a DJ at a strip club and Nicky’s a
a DJ at a strip club and Nicky’s a mother – she’s got a skunk and this is
mother – she’s got a skunk and this is
mother – she’s got a skunk and this is Melina she’s 16 and she dresses up like
Melina she’s 16 and she dresses up like
Melina she’s 16 and she dresses up like skunks and then you’ve got Maggie it’s
skunks and then you’ve got Maggie it’s
skunks and then you’ve got Maggie it’s 12 on the left and Sean’s a technical
12 on the left and Sean’s a technical
12 on the left and Sean’s a technical engineer with his skunk and Sherry’s a
engineer with his skunk and Sherry’s a
engineer with his skunk and Sherry’s a housewife in Pennsylvania with her skunk
housewife in Pennsylvania with her skunk
housewife in Pennsylvania with her skunk but I can tell you honestly the bond is
but I can tell you honestly the bond is
but I can tell you honestly the bond is true I want to leave you with something
true I want to leave you with something
true I want to leave you with something that a lot of what these animals have
that a lot of what these animals have
that a lot of what these animals have taught me is patience you need it
taught me is patience you need it
taught me is patience you need it because you can’t make an animal do what
because you can’t make an animal do what
because you can’t make an animal do what you want it to do so we photographed a
you want it to do so we photographed a
you want it to do so we photographed a hedgehog for the cover in December and
hedgehog for the cover in December and
hedgehog for the cover in December and you know like the little Gunnison you
you know like the little Gunnison you
you know like the little Gunnison you know I could yell at him when you do
know I could yell at him when you do
know I could yell at him when you do that – a hedgehog turns into a pinecone
that – a hedgehog turns into a pinecone
that – a hedgehog turns into a pinecone and so any slightest movement and the
and so any slightest movement and the
and so any slightest movement and the thing goes back into a pinecone so this
thing goes back into a pinecone so this
thing goes back into a pinecone so this fella Brandon Harley’s a kid do raises
fella Brandon Harley’s a kid do raises
fella Brandon Harley’s a kid do raises these guys we took nine hedgehogs and
these guys we took nine hedgehogs and
these guys we took nine hedgehogs and spent a day photographing them on a
spent a day photographing them on a
spent a day photographing them on a seemless to try to make a picture and
seemless to try to make a picture and
seemless to try to make a picture and this is a little piece on
thank you that’s all I got
thank you that’s all I got [Applause]
[Applause]
[Applause] [Music]
[Music]
[Music] Oh
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