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this is the one of the first pictures

this is the one of the first pictures I’ve ever taken to the Dalai Lama this

I’ve ever taken to the Dalai Lama this

I’ve ever taken to the Dalai Lama this was back in 1988 and this is before he

was back in 1988 and this is before he

was back in 1988 and this is before he won the Nobel Peace Prize so nobody

won the Nobel Peace Prize so nobody

won the Nobel Peace Prize so nobody really knew who the Dalai Lama was back

really knew who the Dalai Lama was back

really knew who the Dalai Lama was back then and this is at his home and it was

then and this is at his home and it was

then and this is at his home and it was his secretary that heard about the work

his secretary that heard about the work

his secretary that heard about the work that I was doing going from all these

that I was doing going from all these

that I was doing going from all these Tibetan settlements back before people

Tibetan settlements back before people

Tibetan settlements back before people are really doing this I probably had

are really doing this I probably had

are really doing this I probably had more coverage of Tibet Tibetans in exile

more coverage of Tibet Tibetans in exile

more coverage of Tibet Tibetans in exile than anybody but his secretary said the

than anybody but his secretary said the

than anybody but his secretary said the Dalai Lama wants to meet you and I was

Dalai Lama wants to meet you and I was

Dalai Lama wants to meet you and I was like oh how great may well get a

like oh how great may well get a

like oh how great may well get a blessing from him and I go there to his

blessing from him and I go there to his

blessing from him and I go there to his home and we had this amazing day

home and we had this amazing day

home and we had this amazing day together he gave me a Tibetan name he

together he gave me a Tibetan name he

together he gave me a Tibetan name he gave me an ultimate in coin he really

gave me an ultimate in coin he really

gave me an ultimate in coin he really spent time with me and was very

spent time with me and was very

spent time with me and was very interested and concerned what was

interested and concerned what was

interested and concerned what was happening with his people and especially

happening with his people and especially

happening with his people and especially the young people you know they’re in

the young people you know they’re in

the young people you know they’re in between a rock and a hard place there’s

between a rock and a hard place there’s

between a rock and a hard place there’s Tibetans being born in exile like what

Tibetans being born in exile like what

Tibetans being born in exile like what we’re you know they don’t want to do

we’re you know they don’t want to do

we’re you know they don’t want to do agricultural work like their parents you

agricultural work like their parents you

agricultural work like their parents you know what were they going to do and so

know what were they going to do and so

know what were they going to do and so we had a lot of really great you know

we had a lot of really great you know

we had a lot of really great you know questions and dialogue and I had just

questions and dialogue and I had just

questions and dialogue and I had just adopted a little Tibetan girl not to

adopted a little Tibetan girl not to

adopted a little Tibetan girl not to keep and take home but that I was

keep and take home but that I was

keep and take home but that I was helping send a school there so I had six

helping send a school there so I had six

helping send a school there so I had six weeks there so we actually got a lot of

weeks there so we actually got a lot of

weeks there so we actually got a lot of time and so I actually befriended the

time and so I actually befriended the

time and so I actually befriended the Dalai Lama which was great so whenever I

Dalai Lama which was great so whenever I

Dalai Lama which was great so whenever I would go back he’s like oh come on we’re

would go back he’s like oh come on we’re

would go back he’s like oh come on we’re gonna go consecrate a Buddha statue and

gonna go consecrate a Buddha statue and

gonna go consecrate a Buddha statue and star not jump in you know and so I’d

star not jump in you know and so I’d

star not jump in you know and so I’d ride in his car this entourage and you

ride in his car this entourage and you

ride in his car this entourage and you know here he was meeting like every all

know here he was meeting like every all

know here he was meeting like every all the refugees anyone that comes in from

the refugees anyone that comes in from

the refugees anyone that comes in from Tibet he would meet with them and I

Tibet he would meet with them and I

Tibet he would meet with them and I actually ended up years later doing a

actually ended up years later doing a

actually ended up years later doing a book on him called a simple monk of

book on him called a simple monk of

book on him called a simple monk of these years of you know taking photos

these years of you know taking photos

these years of you know taking photos and so here I’ve sent this picture back

and so here I’ve sent this picture back

and so here I’ve sent this picture back to my parents I’m so proud look who I’m

to my parents I’m so proud look who I’m

to my parents I’m so proud look who I’m hang with you know the Dalai Lama and

hang with you know the Dalai Lama and

hang with you know the Dalai Lama and they had no idea who he is my mom’s like

they had no idea who he is my mom’s like

they had no idea who he is my mom’s like does he work in a dry cleaner I mean so

does he work in a dry cleaner I mean so

does he work in a dry cleaner I mean so so but then she you know she’s like wait

so but then she you know she’s like wait

so but then she you know she’s like wait you left

you left

you left Simon 3 for 3 weeks and all I know

Simon 3 for 3 weeks and all I know

Simon 3 for 3 weeks and all I know you’ve been gone for four years never

you’ve been gone for four years never

you’ve been gone for four years never hang out some guy with mala beads and

hang out some guy with mala beads and

hang out some guy with mala beads and shaved head and months Rove so she calls

shaved head and months Rove so she calls

shaved head and months Rove so she calls my father Frank she’s joined a cult go

my father Frank she’s joined a cult go

my father Frank she’s joined a cult go over there and get her so my father

over there and get her so my father

over there and get her so my father shows up and Paul with my brother to

shows up and Paul with my brother to

shows up and Paul with my brother to have an intervention I swear well anyway

have an intervention I swear well anyway

have an intervention I swear well anyway I brought them to Tibet and I’m like

I brought them to Tibet and I’m like

I brought them to Tibet and I’m like this is not a cult

this is not a cult

this is not a cult you know so we actually had a great time

you know so we actually had a great time

you know so we actually had a great time and my father became a huge advocate and

and my father became a huge advocate and

and my father became a huge advocate and you know loved it thought is a kick this

you know loved it thought is a kick this

you know loved it thought is a kick this is leaving his home and I kind of love

is leaving his home and I kind of love

is leaving his home and I kind of love this moment of you know we’re just

this moment of you know we’re just

this moment of you know we’re just talking and all of a sudden he just

talking and all of a sudden he just

talking and all of a sudden he just stops and he just blesses his guard

stops and he just blesses his guard

stops and he just blesses his guard that’s just beaming and you could just

that’s just beaming and you could just

that’s just beaming and you could just feel that love that he not only emanates

feel that love that he not only emanates

feel that love that he not only emanates and and and gives out but but receives

and and and gives out but but receives

and and and gives out but but receives and I’m one of the times that I went to

and I’m one of the times that I went to

and I’m one of the times that I went to go see him one of the more recent times

go see him one of the more recent times

go see him one of the more recent times because now he’s ubiquitous and it’s

because now he’s ubiquitous and it’s

because now he’s ubiquitous and it’s really hard to spend the time with him

really hard to spend the time with him

really hard to spend the time with him that I’ve have spent with him in the

that I’ve have spent with him in the

that I’ve have spent with him in the past it’s nothing like that and like we

past it’s nothing like that and like we

past it’s nothing like that and like we used to have it’s not like we used to

used to have it’s not like we used to

used to have it’s not like we used to have and I said to him you know I’m

have and I said to him you know I’m

have and I said to him you know I’m really started to take your time I want

really started to take your time I want

really started to take your time I want you to know that I really have the best

you to know that I really have the best

you to know that I really have the best of intentions and he stopped and he

of intentions and he stopped and he

of intentions and he stopped and he looked at me like really looked at me

looked at me like really looked at me

looked at me like really looked at me like I’ve never had anybody like look

like I’ve never had anybody like look

like I’ve never had anybody like look that deeply like in me and he said I

that deeply like in me and he said I

that deeply like in me and he said I know and he’s a good intent most

know and he’s a good intent most

know and he’s a good intent most important and all that you do always

important and all that you do always

important and all that you do always remember and I just I really carry those

remember and I just I really carry those

remember and I just I really carry those words because he said that’s what

words because he said that’s what

words because he said that’s what matters is the intent and that has made

matters is the intent and that has made

matters is the intent and that has made me such a softer person to myself

me such a softer person to myself

me such a softer person to myself because we’re all human and we all make

because we’re all human and we all make

because we’re all human and we all make mistakes and we don’t always do the

mistakes and we don’t always do the

mistakes and we don’t always do the right thing but I do stop and think what

right thing but I do stop and think what

right thing but I do stop and think what was my intent here and it gives me a

was my intent here and it gives me a

was my intent here and it gives me a little pause and I think that as long as

little pause and I think that as long as

little pause and I think that as long as you’re carrying the good intent and I

you’re carrying the good intent and I

you’re carrying the good intent and I think about that when I’m making a

think about that when I’m making a

think about that when I’m making a picture also and I think that that is

picture also and I think that that is

picture also and I think that that is what I try to convey when I’m making a

what I try to convey when I’m making a

what I try to convey when I’m making a picture of somebody that they can read

picture of somebody that they can read

picture of somebody that they can read what is my intent

what is my intent

what is my intent am i there to just exploit them am i

am i there to just exploit them am i

am i there to just exploit them am i there to

there to

there to celebrate them and I think that

celebrate them and I think that

celebrate them and I think that everybody wants to feel special so if

everybody wants to feel special so if

everybody wants to feel special so if you make that person feel special and

you make that person feel special and

you make that person feel special and celebrate it then it’s not an exploitive

celebrate it then it’s not an exploitive

celebrate it then it’s not an exploitive situation because a lot of people ask me

situation because a lot of people ask me

situation because a lot of people ask me how I take pictures of people because

how I take pictures of people because

how I take pictures of people because not everyone is comfortable doing that

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